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Masterz1337
May 27th, 2008, 05:33 PM
This has been in dev with us forever, and since no one on the team really is that interested in dealing with the horrible uvs, or redoing 60% of waht conscars did, I decided I'd attempt to skin it best I could. I'm no texture artist, so alot of this is borrowing elements from other parts of the skin and the first CMT biped from SPV1. Also, as I said earlier, the UVs are horrible on it, so I'm stuck on alot of places where ican't tell where metal overlaps rubber, or where I can transition right (ie under the armpit)

Conscars Skin
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/336/spiseem1km4.jpg
http://img60.imageshack.us/img60/5089/spiconscarsbackvx7.jpg

My Additions

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/7903/spiwipmefrontgl5.jpg
http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/33/spimebackim7.jpg

Any suggestions on what I can do to make it better?

NuggetWarmer
May 27th, 2008, 05:44 PM
Well, I never really liked the model that much. I thought it's proportions looked weird, but the textures seem pretty unrealistic. Also, I don't know if it's the angle or something, but the indents on the ankle guard are crooked.

TeeKup
May 27th, 2008, 05:50 PM
I like it, however I think the feet should be a tad more narrower.

ultama121
May 27th, 2008, 06:12 PM
Looks very well done to me.

Dole
May 27th, 2008, 07:02 PM
Wasn't HolyAlliance going to redesign it from the ground up? In its existing state, this biped requires nothing less.

Roostervier
May 27th, 2008, 07:05 PM
I don't think we've heard from that guy for nearly a year or something. :\

Masterz1337
May 27th, 2008, 07:22 PM
Holy Alliance was a fraud. Pretty much everything he told us was a lie.

t3h m00kz
May 27th, 2008, 07:38 PM
Sweet stuff dude.

Good luck on getting SPV2 done homie

ICEE
May 27th, 2008, 07:41 PM
The back looks too blurred, to smooth. I would suggest redoing it with some more detail. I'm not a pro or anything but it looks like you made a base texture and covered it with burns and dodge. The burns seem to be poorly placed to me, unnaturally proportioned. That makes it look marble-ish.

Corndogman
May 28th, 2008, 01:37 PM
I dont like the model, just the feet really. they look ugly and blocky, and the textures on the legs and feet are blurred and stretched.

Zeph
May 28th, 2008, 04:47 PM
Why not just remap it again?

killer9856
May 28th, 2008, 04:50 PM
The helmet looks weird.


:confused:

SnaFuBAR
May 28th, 2008, 05:47 PM
The helmet looks weird.


:confused:http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=spi+armor&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

Phopojijo
May 28th, 2008, 06:06 PM
In the screenshots... the visor is much smaller in Bungie's design than it is in CMT's model.

JunkfoodMan
May 28th, 2008, 06:08 PM
Overall it just looks blocky and too low-poly.
Either way, looks cool.

Dole
May 28th, 2008, 07:12 PM
Show us a profile and a portrait instead of a free angle, because it then will be easier to get a tangible sense of the proportions.
As for missing details... tomorrow.

jngrow
May 28th, 2008, 07:19 PM
His bottom half looks very... poofy. And the feet look like astronaut boots or bumper cars.

supersniper
May 28th, 2008, 08:07 PM
ehh... that is old. I agree with the remodeling it post.

Bastinka
May 28th, 2008, 09:07 PM
Compared to this: http://gallery.mudpuddle.co.nz/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=13442 and http://gallery.mudpuddle.co.nz/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=13439

The pelvis is too small, the kneecaps arent bulky enough, the calves are too short, the helmet is a bit off, the forearms aren't 'round' enough (too edgy/blocky), the shoulderpads are a bit too small and too much space between shoulders and the pads. The biceps are a tad too big same with forearms and the breastplate is misproportioned / too small not bulky enough, also the waist looks too boxy.

Pretty bad compared to the references, mind linking your reference?
I don't like it.

Masterz1337
May 28th, 2008, 10:10 PM
We just had the book cover as referance. We will sooner trash the S3 than remodel it, and none of us really care much for S3's in the mod anyway. Thanks for all the model complaints, but you had a whole thread to point those things out, but the majority of you either bullshitted around and it or trolled, so thanks for all the crit this would have needed early.

The model isn't goign to realisticly change, when there are like around 9 bipeds in the works for spv2, and we already have plenty of work to do with those, so no one will be remodeling this or fixing the errors. I just need crit on the skin, we won't be able to do anything about the model.

t3h m00kz
May 28th, 2008, 11:37 PM
Overall it just looks blocky and too low-poly.
Either way, looks cool.

Keep in mind that this is the Halo 1 engine we're working with here ;)

BobtheGreatII
May 29th, 2008, 02:20 AM
Keep in mind that this is the Halo 1 engine we're working with here ;)

Yeah, but compared to a lot of stuff with throw at the Halo 1 engine, it is still quite low poly.

JunkfoodMan
May 30th, 2008, 07:56 PM
Yeah, but compared to a lot of stuff with throw at the Halo 1 engine, it is still quite low poly.

^ This.

t3h m00kz
May 31st, 2008, 05:58 AM
k fyne jeez get off my bawlz ;.;

However it's no more low poly than the standard Mark V, you have to admit.

... Okay, maybe a bit.

I made a ryhme, OH SHIT

Dole
May 31st, 2008, 11:31 PM
It's been cut anyway, so what does it matter?

Masterz1337
May 31st, 2008, 11:50 PM
Because I'm still going to finish it and open source it.

In the future "Mr. Know it all", I'd prefer you to stay out of any CMT threads I make, seeing as you were one of the biggest causes of the shitfest in teh CMT forums, and you're posts in this thread have shown you haven't changed your arrogant idiotic ways. You're not wanted, and you opinions mean nothing to me or the team.

Phopojijo
May 31st, 2008, 11:57 PM
Because I'm still going to finish it and open source it.

In the future "Mr. Know it all", I'd prefer you to stay out of any CMT threads I make, seeing as you were one of the biggest causes of the shitfest in teh CMT forums, and you're posts in this thread have shown you haven't changed your arrogant idiotic ways. You're not wanted, and you opinions mean nothing to me or the team.Apart from his first post stating that the biped needs to be redone, I don't see much issue with his posts o.O His tone might be not what I'm interpretting it as, but I cannot tell that by text alone.

Relax a bit man.