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Moses
June 9th, 2008, 03:36 AM
Oblivion/Zelda Modding Group


Before I go into detail you must know I won't be working on this mod until I finish my content for CMT. I am also aware that this isn't a Oblivion forum which is why this is in the "Off Topic" section. OZMG is a mod for "Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion" which will add a new area to the game, a floating, Zelda based island. So far the team includes myself, Plasbian, Juicy Llama, Xaoz9, and Masterz (when he finishes CMT and then some).

Before people start assuming I'm a newb and ignore this thread I'd like to present something I've made for the mod in my spare time. Keep in mind my graphics card Isnt the best and the quality is near minimum. The Master sword has a diffuse, grayscale specular, and normal map.

http://img151.imageshack.us/img151/5251/screenshot1kl8.jpg

http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs25/i/2008/100/7/f/Mastersword_Oblivion_Version_by_Chief_01.jpg

We are looking for people who can do concept designs, animate, model characters, and/or texture. Present any skilled work you've done if you want a spot.

Rob Oplawar
June 9th, 2008, 02:30 PM
in b4 OMGZ

Sel
June 9th, 2008, 03:54 PM
Its a p4p, way hay thar.

I might be able to help you out during the summer, it all depends how busy I am, and where I am.

Chainsy
June 9th, 2008, 04:23 PM
I guess I could do concepts:
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x20/cartsizzle/concepts001-1.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x20/cartsizzle/treeonrock.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x20/cartsizzle/concepts003.jpg
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x20/cartsizzle/archbeta.jpghttp://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x20/cartsizzle/concept-1.jpg

Moses
June 9th, 2008, 04:48 PM
Very nice concepts Chains. My AIM is Play4Phlx , as for Sel, I know what you can do. I've still gonna hound your ass too about those lightmaps.

Chainsy
June 9th, 2008, 05:02 PM
Mmmm..all i have is xfire, if you dont have xfire you can tell masterz what jobs you want me to do and he has my xfire.

Sel
June 9th, 2008, 05:14 PM
Very nice concepts Chains. My AIM is Play4Phlx , as for Sel, I know what you can do. I've still gonna hound your ass too about those lightmaps.

And Ill just wait for you to get me a BSP I can stick that stuff in :downs:

Con
June 9th, 2008, 07:28 PM
I don't really see why you'd need a concept artist for a conversion of a game that's already conceived...

Corndogman
June 9th, 2008, 07:45 PM
Thats what I was thinking, but I thought maybe he could do concepts for singleplayer/multiplayer environments.

ICEE
June 9th, 2008, 07:50 PM
This looks very interesting. I would be glad to help but I doubt you would need a first person animator for this.

PlasbianX
June 9th, 2008, 08:20 PM
I don't really see why you'd need a concept artist for a conversion of a game that's already conceived...

Well theres still things we need to decide on how they will look like. For example, we know that theres gonna be a new area, but we are unsure what its gonna look like right now.

Chainsy
June 9th, 2008, 09:57 PM
Ah, yes, but I can also skin and texture. Me and moses already discussed that part. :)

Moses
June 10th, 2008, 01:38 AM
I don't really see why you'd need a concept artist for a conversion of a game that's already conceived...

It's for the landscape and dungeons. the items and armor will be the same but we need concept artists for the island. kinda important to have a place to put all the stuff:eyesroll:


This looks very interesting. I would be glad to help but I doubt you would need a first person animator for this.

If you can do other types of animations I'd be glad to have you on the team. There'll need to be animations for all the enemies:)

Pooky
June 10th, 2008, 05:46 PM
Huh, I always wished there would be some sort of floating island in Oblivion form which you could look down on Cyrodiil. I'd get this just for that even though I don't usually like adding non canon content in. :0

Moses
June 10th, 2008, 08:02 PM
I've also started on the Fierce Deity armor.
http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/8368/deityyl4.jpg
Some of you might not know what this is so I'll provide my references.
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/6361/deity1xv3.jpg
http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/562/deity2ya1.jpg

Some areas i had to misproportion so it'd fit oblivion's player skeleton.

Sel
June 11th, 2008, 08:03 PM
Majoras mask :awesome:

ICEE
June 11th, 2008, 08:35 PM
I could try to do biped animations. It would be a learning experience for me, I've never done them, and I would need to know what animation scenes would be necessary, how to export in a proper format for oblivion to use, a lot more details like that. I would be willing to try of course!

Ki11a_FTW
June 11th, 2008, 08:43 PM
biped animations can be annoying (especially the moving front and shit) I REQUEST A MOTION CAPTURE SUIT!

Moses
June 11th, 2008, 09:00 PM
all of the players animations are already taken care of. the only "human like" enemies I can think of at the moment that'll need animations are Dark Link and stalfos. The majority of animations will be for enemies like the skeleton hounds in twilight princesses hyrule field, baku baba plants, river zoras, etc.


I could try to do biped animations. It would be a learning experience for me, I've never done them, and I would need to know what animation scenes would be necessary, how to export in a proper format for oblivion to use, a lot more details like that. I would be willing to try of course!

http://niftools.sourceforge.net/wiki/NifTools

That there is the main page for oblivion's Nif model format. everything having to do with animations, models, collision and whatnot is stored in the same file. oblivion though, unlike morrowind uses attached .kf files for animations which makes it a lot easier to add animations. Collision btw is A LOT easier to make in oblivion. a lone triangle can be collidable. setting it up though can be a huge pain if you're using a collision mesh instead of a basic collision shape. I've gotten the Hylian shield to be collidable but at the price of it losing collision sounds.

here's oblivion's main page for modders. It'll explain just about everything you need to know and more.

http://cs.elderscrolls.com/constwiki/index.php/Main_Page

Fierce Deity Update:

http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/9530/deityqi5.jpg

2938 Polies

If anyone would like to see the year old piece of crap I made that I was able to salvage the boots, and hair from then take a look here.

http://fc03.deviantart.com/fs18/f/2007/161/e/f/Fierce_Deity_by_Chief_01.jpg

Kalub
June 12th, 2008, 02:54 AM
For large images like that, you should use [.shot][./shot] tags

ICEE
June 12th, 2008, 12:48 PM
Awesome. My AIM and xfire are both ukironclad and my msn is iceethepolarbear. We should get in touch, I'd be glad to help you

Moses
June 12th, 2008, 10:41 PM
I didn't really feel like making the arms today so I made his sword, the Dark Fairy Blade, in about half an hour.
http://img158.imageshack.us/img158/6967/darkfairybladerw6.jpg
Polies: 638

Llama Juice
June 13th, 2008, 07:39 AM
Dark Fairy Blade

He's so badass.

Looks good though, good job :)

Moses
June 15th, 2008, 01:41 AM
After painstaking hours of debug and searching for the few oblivion collision tuts out there, I've finally gotten a hang of making collision^^. apparently collision for claymores needs to be setup differently for god only knows why. But I've gotten it all worked out ^^.

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8010/helltothemotherfuckingyxt0.jpg

O and I'm almost done with the Fierce Deity armor. Just need to make the hands. The head though is a different story entirely. To get it to work and work with facial animations and expressions I need to use a new program called Facegen. I'm not going to try making the faces work till I've got them all made though. I will however UVW, rig, and TRY to get the armor to work ingame. Bethesda and me have issues with skin instances ><. I think that about wraps it all up so far.

Heathen
June 15th, 2008, 01:58 AM
lol, with a name like "The Dark Fairy Blade" you know its badass

lol

NuggetWarmer
June 15th, 2008, 02:31 AM
This might help you out:

http://www.makehuman.org/blog/index.php

Pooky
June 15th, 2008, 12:37 PM
lol, with a name like "The Dark Fairy Blade" you know its badass

lol

I always called that thing the helix sword :eyesroll:

Moses
June 15th, 2008, 01:15 PM
I always called that thing the helix sword :eyesroll:

It's called the Double Helix Blade by most people but when Majoras Mask first came out my friend found out the sword was actually called the "Dark Fairy Blade" or something close to it in one of his Nintendo Powers. I took his word for it cause imo "Double Helix Blade" sounds too unprofessional cause it's describing it. Besides, who here agrees Dark Fairy Blade is Badass? :D

Roostervier
June 15th, 2008, 03:32 PM
I thought the dark fairy blade was that purple and green blade you get when you go to that fairy after catching all the little fairy's in the last dungeon. Maybe I don't remember correctly. Anyway, nice models, that stuff looks nice. :D

Moses
June 15th, 2008, 07:35 PM
I thought the dark fairy blade was that purple and green blade you get when you go to that fairy after catching all the little fairy's in the last dungeon. Maybe I don't remember correctly. Anyway, nice models, that stuff looks nice. :D

That was the Great Fairy's Sword. I love that thing too lol. btw, i'm including the mask from the last temple if any of you remember what it was. Give you a hint, it could only be used and had to be used in the last boss fight other than Majora. It'll work exactly how it did in the game but it can only be put on outside. It'll unequip when you go indoors. For those of you who know what it is, yes, I'll try and get it set so you hurt those you walk near^^.

Also, If any of you remember the Lizafos from Ocarina of time (you know, the little bastards that kept knocking you off the pillars in the dodongo caverns into lava and you had to climb all the way back up just to get knocked back down lol) . I'm having flyinrooster model it and the sword. I've fixed some of the details on the blade but it's his model. anyway, it's ingame with collision. this proves i've gotten the hang of collision^^ yay.

http://img373.imageshack.us/img373/1254/lizafosswordpm9.jpg

ItsMeTerror
June 16th, 2008, 11:02 PM
Ok, so I have been working on the "Hero's Bow" for Moses and I have got this much in about 30 minutes, it seems long for just that piece but I wanted it right so I didn't have to go back and fix things.

http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2411/herosbowfg3.jpg

Chainsy
June 16th, 2008, 11:05 PM
Woah, your rep is almost as bad as mine.

ItsMeTerror
June 16th, 2008, 11:11 PM
Why thank you haha.

Moses
June 16th, 2008, 11:12 PM
Well I've finished the Fierce Deity Armor. it's 6814 polies w/o the hair. For those of you who are worried about poly counts don't be. An average full suit of armor in oblivion is roughly 15000 polies. this armor is going to be a little more than half that. I've gotta make the head separately cause of how oblivion works though (think i already explained this) so I'm gonna rig this, unwrap it, and get it ingame first as armor then I'll try on the head.

anyway, here's what you all wanna see.

Clay Render:
http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/1249/fiercedeityclayen1.jpg

Wireframe Render:
http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/9050/fiercedeitywirehb8.jpg

Meshsmooth Render:
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/1620/deitymeshsmoothev0.jpg

ItsMeTerror
June 16th, 2008, 11:14 PM
I personally like clay better.

ICEE
June 16th, 2008, 11:14 PM
The biped is gorgeous. Am I going to be animating it or will it use the stock animations?

supersniper
June 16th, 2008, 11:19 PM
Glad to see a new zelda mod team. So far you guys have me in awe.

Moses
June 16th, 2008, 11:19 PM
stock. oblivions human biped anims cant be edited for the world. they're made to work with every weapon, armor piece, and action in the game. also, for those of you wondering about why the arm bracers look different than the model it's cause I used a manga refrence and combined it with the statue version. I didnt really like either tbh so I used part of both.

Chainsy
June 16th, 2008, 11:23 PM
Iron will be animating, and I get the awesome pleasure of skinning this baby. :worship:

Moses
June 17th, 2008, 03:28 PM
Bad news. Oblivion doesn't allow changing heads ingame(even with script extenders) :( . meaning I'll have to model the head without any facial animations. I'll be able to animate the eyes to blink at set intervals though which is just about all the players face does. he will make yelling noises when swinging his weapon and his mouth wont move though lol. Oh yea, I almost forgot, there's going to be a new celestial sign you can be born under, "The Hero". I'd like some opinions on what we should make the birthsign powers be. please nothing overpowered. here's a list of standard birth signs.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Oblivion:Birthsigns

ItsMeTerror
June 17th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Here is more of the bow.

http://img111.imageshack.us/img111/4576/herosbowuo9.jpg

In my spare time I'm going to be making this baby.

http://img129.imageshack.us/img129/4645/dragonbowvx7.gif

Pooky
June 17th, 2008, 09:53 PM
Resistance to silence (triforce of courage...) and increased strength

Moses
June 17th, 2008, 10:50 PM
not sure if it's even possible to make a resistance to silence. besides, I've beaten most of the game and the main storyline at lv 35 and i'm pretty sure i've never been hit with silence. doesnt seem to be that useful tbh. thnx for being the only person to respond btw. >_>

Pooky
June 17th, 2008, 11:39 PM
not sure if it's even possible to make a resistance to silence. besides, I've beaten most of the game and the main storyline at lv 35 and i'm pretty sure i've never been hit with silence. doesnt seem to be that useful tbh. thnx for being the only person to respond btw. >_>

Not sure which game you're playing, but wraiths use silence constantly as their main spell <_<

I don't know if it's possible either though.

Most of the birthsigns are useless anyway though, the only one that doesnt come with massive strings attached is the mage

Moses
June 17th, 2008, 11:46 PM
Not sure which game you're playing, but wraiths use silence constantly as their main spell <_<

I don't know if it's possible either though.

Most of the birthsigns are useless anyway though, the only one that doesnt come with massive strings attached is the mage

lol. I totally forgot that I'm not really affected by silence for 2 reasons:

1: I dont use spells much at all.
2: I'm born under the sign of the Atronoch (Spell absorbtion 50%)

but yea, idk if I'd be able to without a script and even then idk if it'd work like i want it to.

Moses
June 20th, 2008, 05:36 AM
This thread has been moved to http://modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=10436
Someone please lock this thread.

EDIT: Nevermind >_< no one told me I can lock my own threads. I did look before but couldnt find it.