[GALLERY] cad's craptacular creations

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img684.imageshack.us/img684/2350/br8.jpg

[Gwunty]

already working on halo reach?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

it's modelling practice if anything

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/1485/br10.jpg

scope is hacked off of the halo 3 br, but you get the idea.

i'll finish up the real scope tomorrow

[ICEE]

Interesting concept I think it would be cool to see the magazine extend a little out of the well like a realistic gun, or maybe curve within the gun a bit.

[Dwood]

Something about the handle and area around the trigger screams pistol to me. Not sure what it is though.

[Choking Victim]

Something about the handle and area around the trigger screams pistol to me. Not sure what it is though.
Pistols also have triggers. hth.

[Dwood]

Pistols also have triggers. hth.


lol, that's not what I meant!!! :v:

[Horns]

Something about the handle and area around the trigger screams pistol to me. Not sure what it is though.

A lot of combat arms use pistol style grips rather then the traditional rifle style grip.

[PenGuin1362]

Thus the reasoning behind the term "pistol grip" on assault rifles....

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/8499/br11.jpg

[Chainsy]

I like it, thought design wise I don't like the little hand guard bar shit down there, maybe thicken it up and connect the actual handle to the stock with that bar, sort of like how the ar look, but that's just my opinion, that might look bad also.(run on sentences bitches, try to stop me!!!)

[Advancebo]

nice

[ODX]

There's just something about the front gripping-area that looks odd to me, maybe its lack of detail, or how it's sloped. I'm sure you could do a much more interesting ophandle also, but otherwise it looks promising.

[BobtheGreatII]

You left out quite a few details near the back, did you do that on purpose?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

i made a version with a traditional br grip

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/940/br13j.jpg

also, the details i left out will be textured in

for now im just working on more attachments etc

e: oh, yeah, and im redoing the flash hider

[Hunter]

Stick some small rails on each side of it under the other rails, then add laser sight, that would look cool. I might make one when I can be bothered.
And finished my BTEC ICT work...

[BobtheGreatII]

also, the details i left out will be textured in

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/2171/reach0404.jpg

There's a little piece on the cheek rest thing that you left off, your grip guard is all wrong, you need to make the actual scope, and on the forgrip there's a little notch detail thing that would look better modeled than a texture.

[ODX]

i made a version with a traditional br grip
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/940/br13j.jpgYeah, looks much nicer with the regular grip as opposed to this new one Bungie has 'designed.'

[SiriusTexra]

Looks great, but do something with that handle, its a bit too straight off the side, have a slight curve dipping down into it or something, I know the handles probably like that in the game, but I dunno, height difference is always good, casts nicer shadows.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/5530/brrel2.gif

mw2-insipired reload, though i'll probably do a more practical one for ingame

[Gwunty]

model the scope >: (

[Heathen]

also, who throws like that, no matter what you are throwing, and is he keeping his ammo on his chest? Because if so, he must be keeping it on his gigantic tits to not have to reach any further than that.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

alright, I fixed it just for you heathen:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9096/brrel3.gif

:)

[ICEE]

Love it. The only thing I would really change would be the throwing of the magazine and the part where he pats the magazine into place. they both look a bit weak and unrealistic, as well as unnecessary.

[SnaFuBAR]

Bolt handle comes back at the wrong time. It needs to pop back at the firing of the last round. Having it snap back like that as you do a mag pull is entirely wrong. If the bolt doesn't reciprocate during fire, he needs to pull the bolt handle back. Also, he wouldn't pull on the bolt handle like that, he'd slap it down, just like an mp5 reload. I would also give the camera a bit of a look-down bob in it when he goes to grab the magazine.

Origins are kind of nasty, too. I don't know why everyone puts the stock so far up into the right side of the screen. You will NEVER EVER see a stock like that because they don't come up into your peripheral vision at all when shouldered. It just looks retarded.

Although, yes, heathen, soldiers do carry mags on their chests, I do agree that the hand does not come back far enough towards the camera.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

You present valid points snaf, but I still disagree with some of them.

Regarding the origins, there's times and places for realism... imo animating for halo isnt one of them. I set up my origins according to what I feel looks best, not how a real soldier would hold a weapon. If this ever does see the light of day in a map or otherwise, people are welcome to reposition the origins themselves in using whatever Halo CE plugin/addon allows for such.

I, however, will change the bolt handle timing (despite what I just said) as it was an oversight on my part. Although, I am inclined to keep the bolt pull the way it is, as I'd like to retain some of my artistic license as opposed to being dictated by "realism".


E: Oh, and the magazine/chest issue: halo's camera uses a lower fov than the render I posted, so it should be closer ingame. Also, animating the first person camera wasn't implemented until Halo 2, unfortunately.

[Heathen]

alright, I fixed it just for you heathen:

http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9096/brrel3.gif

:)

Love it :P

[t3h m00kz]

I like the way he kind of does a sort of a "re-grip" with his right hand while he's pulling the clip out.

[Heathen]

Yeah, what muki just said.

[SnaFuBAR]

I, however, will change the bolt handle timing (despite what I just said) as it was an oversight on my part. Although, I am inclined to keep the bolt pull the way it is, as I'd like to retain some of my artistic license as opposed to being dictated by "realism".

artistic licence is fine, but, where is he pulling the bolt handle back towards?? the notch it locks into doesn't have the space for that, so visually, it's an issue. as an artist, looking to portray realism or not, that's something you need to take into account, if just to make your work more credible.

[ODX]

I like the way he kind of does a sort of a "re-grip" with his right hand while he's pulling the clip out.Well, that's how IW did it in their Famas, and it was a good decision on their part. Just adds to the overall animation without doing something completely unnecessary.

Animators really need to remember that the fingers on the handle can be moved, ffs. Mostly you see it in pistol reloads though, not very common in rifles.

[PenGuin1362]

Keep in mind though, IW used motion capture for their animations, they don't actually animate via maya/max

[Disaster]

Keep in mind though, IW used motion capture for their animations, they don't actually animate via maya/max

I'm pretty sure they only used MoCap for 3p animations.

[ICEE]

Keep in mind though, IW used motion capture for their animations, they don't actually animate via maya/max

I fail to believe that. They must have manually animated fp, or at least heavily edited mocap. theres just so much that isnt human about their animatons.

[ODX]

Keep in mind though, IW used motion capture for their animations, they don't actually animate via maya/maxUh, no. Just no. Infinity Ward did not use motion capture in their first person animations, it's incredibly obvious.

People need to stop under-crediting animators, by thinking we've all gone to motion capturing and no one can do a damn thing by hand anymore. Making the animations that IW has made is not impossible through manual labor.

Here, take a look at IMBrokeRU's copy reload of their M4. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3UP9FpUUFQ)
That's pretty damn close to what they made, and if he can do that, with only around 1 or so years of experience, then damn it, Infinity Ward's animators, who are professionals and have 3+ years of experience, should easily be able to do it.

[Heathen]

yeesh, 3 years of experience around here doesn't seem like much.

[Roostervier]

haha what

how did this turn into something about people "under-crediting" animators? penguin stated a fact (although i think they did the fp animations by hand too since fp is drastically different than 3p).

[ODX]

yeesh, 3 years of experience around here doesn't seem like much.I'm not exactly sure how much they really have, but if they're the same animators as CoD1 then well, that's at least 6-8 or so years of experience, because looking at the site they require 3 years of Maya/Max animating, period.


haha what

how did this turn into something about people "under-crediting" animators? penguin stated a fact (although i think they did the fp animations by hand too since fp is drastically different than 3p).Motion capture is a quick and, most of the time, efficient way to make animations for realistic things. When someone says a company used it for FP animations, that implies they think the animations are too realistic or well done for someone to have hand-made and thus, they're under-estimating (I meant to use this instead of 'crediting.' Sorry) today's animators.


If you want to continue this, snap me a PM, I already feel bad enough for having to post another off-topic post in CAD's thread, albeit it's animation related and we were just critiquing CAD's animation.

[ICEE]

chill odx. We'll get through this. Not every incorrect/misworded post is a federal case >.>

[Dwood]

I'm not exactly sure how much they really have, but if they're the same animators as CoD1 then well, that's at least 6-8 or so years of experience, because looking at the site they require 3 years of Maya/Max animating, period.

I read somewhere that gaming companies have people coming and going with their game development all the time... I think 6 years is the max/unheard of when it comes to art/programming/etc for a gaming company. Just noting it is extremely unlikely that is the case.

[ShadowSpartan]

I think 6 years is the max/unheard of when it comes to art/programming/etc for a gaming company.
No, I know for a fact that there are programmers that worked on Halo 1 and are still working at Bungie. One of them is pretty much the last person that supports Halo PC, Roger Wolfson.

[Disaster]

I read somewhere that gaming companies have people coming and going with their game development all the time... I think 6 years is the max/unheard of when it comes to art/programming/etc for a gaming company.

lol... no

[Shockwave]

Hi there!
CAD, the BR55 (Halo Reach) has 12 bullets and it's a single-fire. You're good dude! (bad english :/)

YouTube Channel: iamcortex37

[t3h m00kz]

It's not a br55.

I doubt it's even a BR.

[Shockwave]

It's the BR55... read books and you will know...

[=sw=warlord]

It's the BR55... read books and you will know...
BR55 is the one in halo 2 and 3, the one in reach is not a BR55 as shown in the video.
completely different scope for starters.

[Advancebo]

Scopes are attachments. Thats like saying the Silenced SMG from ODST isnt the same SMG from Halo 2/3 just because it has a reflex sight.

[=sw=warlord]

Scopes are attachments. Thats like saying the Silenced SMG from ODST isnt the same SMG from Halo 2/3 just because it has a reflex sight.
Ok how about this, it has a completely different overall design.

[Higuy]

Ok how about this, it has a completely different overall design.
Not really.

[kid908]

Not really.

it also share similar design with the ar.

[Shockwave]

The laser spartan in Halo: Reach is always a laser spartan ^^

[ODX]

How about we stop talking about the damn rifle, and just wait for Game Informer to confirm what is it?

...Even though it most likely is a Battle Rifle/prototype of one.


The laser spartan in Halo: Reach is always a laser spartan ^^We do not know. It could fire rockets or an other projectile.

[Advancebo]

We do not know. It could fire rockets or an other projectile.

So 2 weapons that fire a rocket? Nice.

Odds are it is a spartan laser thing.

[ODX]

So 2 weapons that fire a rocket? Nice.

Odds are it is a spartan laser thing.It was meant as an example, idiot, I wasn't directly saying "DER DE DER IT FIREZ ROKEHTS KL:AJSUFIALDJ:LF."

[Shockwave]

Look the leak pictures! There is a laser spartan with a heartbeat sensor

wrong thread ~con

[Advancebo]

Ok how about this, it has a completely different overall design.

It's the same model as h3 with the stock extended and the attachments added on.

[t3h m00kz]

It's the BR55... read books and you will know...

It's been verified in the IGN magazine that the weapon is a "Designated Marksman Rifle (DMR)"

[Kalub]

Ugh, still fucking arguing about this stupid fucking gun?



Give it a rest. Jesus.

[Amit]

Ugh, still fucking arguing about this stupid fucking gun?



Give it a rest. Jesus.

The last time somebody said anything about it was 4 days ago. Why comment on it now?

[rossmum]

mw2-insipired reload, though i'll probably do a more practical one for ingame
snaf already covered the main points but as someone trained to use a bullpup rifle i think i ought to chime in a bit.

first up, i'd get rid of the mag toss. yes, it looks more action hero, but in a game where half-empty mags replenish your stock it makes no sense and it's also kind of contrary to the whole 'ultimate soldier' thing. on the range we place mags back into our webbing, empty or otherwise; in combat you'd more likely find us shoving them down our cams for easy access. maybe the odd empty mag would simply be dropped in the chaos, but it would then be retrieved at first convenience.

second, lifting the muzzle like that actually makes reloading harder. obviously this would be less of a problem for the mc but it strikes me that they would probably learn the same weapons drills as regular soldiers anyway. we keep our steyrs more or less level but tilt them to the side, so that the butt is wedged against our side and the mag well is facing us. doesn't look so fancy but makes it a lot easier to push the mag in, and it helps cut down on seating issues (trust me, the last thing you want when you're under fire is for your mag to fall out as soon as you pull the trigger, and i've seen it happen before - albeit only on the range). take what you will from this, as i know you need to strike the right balance between realism and style.

when it comes to the cocking handle, snaf has it. there's no room there to pull it back and then let it return under spring tension, and in any case it's locked up so it wouldn't do that. really the only way you can release the bolt with that kind of cocking handle is to flick it down and let it return itself, as we do with the steyr. as one of our corporals told us, imagine you're high-fiving mickey mouse at disneyland. spread your hand out and bring it down and away from the rifle in a sweeping motion, catching the handle with your thumb and then brushing your hand away as soon as it disengages from the hold-open recess. when done well this looks wicked as fuck anyway, so you may as well use it.

e/ by the way i'll be in calgary as of tomorrow. get on the forums more often so we can arrange some chill time

[ODX]

Some great points in there Rossmum, I learned a few things, but do well to remember this is Halo, and...

there's times and places for realism... imo animating for halo isnt one of them.
If we were all constrained to 'realism,' there wouldn't be as many interesting animations/animators as we have today. Things would get kind of boring, with everyone making reloads the same way because they are 'realistic.'

Please understand that I'm not saying "Fuck realism! It's a game, who cares!?" because that's obviously not true and we need to keep in mind some sort of logistics, but having them all is certainly not ideal, even if you can make unique things by yourself with little reference to real life.

Of course, CAD does have his own doubts about the reload, keep in mind:

i'll probably do a more practical one for ingame

[Shockwave]

I have an airsoft FAMAS full metal, which has the same conception as that of the BR (or DMR). When I reload with, I make it for the similar 95 % that CAD. Actuallu, I try to make "realistic" animation, it's so hard but funny... ^^

[ICEE]

I have an airsoft FAMAS full metal, which has the same conception as that of the BR (or DMR). When I reload with, I make it for the similar 95 % that CAD. Actuallu, I try to make "realistic" animation, it's so hard but funny... ^^

Because your copying halo.


I am not wrong.


Also, Thanks for the insight ross. Not intended for me, but I learned something.

[rossmum]

I have an airsoft FAMAS full metal, which has the same conception as that of the BR (or DMR). When I reload with, I make it for the similar 95 % that CAD. Actuallu, I try to make "realistic" animation, it's so hard but funny... ^^
i'm an australian soldier and i'm competent with a real f88 austeyr rifle using real drills tried and tested by soldiers for some 25 years now. see how this works?

[Shockwave]

Yes of course! It's a bullpup gun, but at home, I called this an AUG

[t3h m00kz]

first up, i'd get rid of the mag toss. yes, it looks more action hero, but in a game where half-empty mags replenish your stock it makes no sense and it's also kind of contrary to the whole 'ultimate soldier' thing.

I'd just like to point out some guns in MW1 are guilty of this. The player tosses the AK47 magazine away when reloading. Not as obviously and show-offy as CAD's animation, but it's still tossed away.

[ICEE]

IMO, just because IW did it doesn't make it right.

I mean, look at that whole gameplay... thing... they've got going on there....

[t3h m00kz]

The point I'm making is it shouldn't really matter if the magazine is tossed or not. The SMG clip in Halo is tossed, yet the ammo in reserve doesn't go down a whole clip.

There's a point where things have to remain unrealistic for gameplay purposes.

[rossmum]

Yes of course! It's a bullpup gun, but at home, I called this an AUG
no, i don't think you got my point. my point was that you playing about with an airsoft gun is in no way going to be as realistic as actual drills using the actual thing. and no, the aug and the f88 aren't the same. the f88 is australian-made by adi at lithgow saf under license, stamped with adi markings, and serialled with the prefix 'as' - australian steyr. if you were to call an f88 an aug in front of a regimental instructor, you'd get ripped.

[t3h m00kz]

I feel I should point out there's a flashlight on the front left of the DMR, similar to the flashlight on the shotgun in Halo 3.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

figured i might as well post something:

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9691/48008100.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9454/58260638.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7573/44017394.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7877/23647355.jpg

script-controlled hud elements (no more using the countdown timer as a score counter)

[Inferno]

figured i might as well post something:

http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/9691/48008100.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/9454/58260638.jpg
http://img195.imageshack.us/img195/7573/44017394.jpg
http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/7877/23647355.jpg

script-controlled hud elements (no more using the countdown timer as a score counter)


How did you manage that exactly? Wouldn't you have to have a separate string for every number?

[Advancebo]

nicely done.

[Kalub]

Pretty cool

[Dwood]

I have an idea of how he did it but what I'm thinking is very.... annoying, to say the least. (basically what you said Inferno)

I was also going to say that you could use Open Sauce as a point counter but then I realized if you wanted to use it you would have done so already :P

[Shockwave]

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/cutouts/DMR_right3.jpg
For your DMR,CAD

[rossmum]

what the fuck.

halo's weapons have gone from being nice and simple but looking good, to nice and simple but detailed enough, and now to absolute bullshit fest. that looks like basically every other sci-fi rifle ever now, fuck that noise.

[Heathen]

wah wah, halo trying to look realistic wah wah.

I like it.

[rossmum]

it doesn't look realistic it just looks flat out retarded and generic

rather than design something that retains the look of the original human tech they just decided to bevel and extrude the living fuck out of it because surely that's what all the cool sci-fi guns look like

[Advancebo]

http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/cutouts/DMR_right3.jpg
For your DMR,CAD
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Reach/images/cutouts/DMR_left3.jpg

[t3h m00kz]

it doesn't look realistic it just looks flat out retarded and generic

This is all a matter of opinion. 9 out of 10 people who haven't played the Halo games will say they all look like your generic scifi shooter. At least, from my experience.

[rossmum]

recipe for generic sci-fi guns:

bevel. extrude. repeat. texture in two or three shades of matte grey.

at least the halo 1 weapons weren't bevelled and extruded to fuck and there was some variety in there, rather than the same three shades of matte grey

[Corndogman]

:protarget:

[ICEE]

I agree with ross on this one. The halo 1 weapons were interesting by design. The only one that could be called generic in any sense is the assault rifle imo. Sci fis just seem to have a lot of cased rifles. The armored look. The most generic weapons are in UT if you ask me. Not one of them is cool.

[t3h m00kz]

Have you played UT3 for more than an hour? Because if that were the case I'm suprised you'd be saying that. Every single weapon is completely different from one another.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

im just gonna lock this for now

[CtrlAltDestroy]

something i picked up...

xi91GjuSVWg

[Dwood]

Oh that's cool cad. What did you do/use for that?

[ODX]

When repairing the boards, is it limited to one every so often, or could you just press the "Use" key 5 times and they'll all start building back up again?

Why is the DMR's firing so loud D:, and what happened to that MW2 styled reload you had done for it/the one you had said you planned to do more practically for in-game purposes? (Unless you haven't done that, no worries)

Cool job, none-the-less.

[ThePlague]

:awesome:

[mech]

Most interesting thing I've seen on these boards in a long while. If this concept is taken to the next level, it might give me a reason to play halo. Great work!

[Heathen]

something i picked up...

xi91GjuSVWg

if this ever releases, I will reinstall CE yet again. This is my new CMT SPv2. CADZP ftw.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Small update: First working build done. What really sets this apart from the rest of the firefight maps that have been made for Halo: CE is that it was scripted procedurally. Each round is generated on its own by the script, as opposed to having each round scripted individually. This also has the added bonus of featuring infinite rounds, just like the real thing. ;p

[t3h m00kz]

I never made it far enough to know if Firefight ever ended. :(

That's pretty legit.

[PenGuin1362]

If I have time I'll start work on that map we discussed a long time ago >_>

[CtrlAltDestroy]

yeah, youd better

[Hunter]

Need a hand with anything at all?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/875/45043942.gif

its an assault rifle with a goddamn blowtorch duct taped to it

[Heathen]

Badass, but wouldn't the muzzleflash work fine for lighting it? I admit this is cooler though. Definitely include this in Nazi Flood, or whatever. The CADZP.

[Con]

This is awesome, you are awesome.

[Siliconmaster]

^This.

I have not felt as much glee relating to CE in a very, very long time. Make this happen. I implore you. :puppydog eyes:

[ODX]

When he's striking it with his thumb to light the burner, it looks as if only the lower thumb bone is moving (rather, rotating) and the rest of the thumb is static. Makes the skin look a bit funky when he's doing this (at the root of the thumb) since it's moving so much.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/252/raygun.gif

cred to treyarch for the raygun model and textures.

[Spartan094]

Something doesn't feel/look right when he puts back the batteries in the gun and the finger movement with it. Also why is your image of the animation really slow?

Other then that sweet.

[sdavis117]

The hand seems to not care at all about the (what I would guess is the) sight on the gun, because it goes through it a couple times.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

i made certain that it always passes between the index and middle finger.

[sdavis117]

I'm not talking about the mini radio tower looking thing, I'm taking about the fin. The index finger goes through it a little.

[ODX]

I'm not talking about the mini radio tower looking thing, I'm taking about the fin. The index finger goes through it a little.Dunno, looks fine to me:
http://i43.tinypic.com/11jql3b.jpg
And even if it does, it's pretty inconspicuous and doesn't really need any attention towards fixing it.

[t3h m00kz]

http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/875/45043942.gif

its an assault rifle with a goddamn blowtorch duct taped to it

That is ridiculous and would have no logical use.

I love it.

[Heathen]

also it has a badass duct tape texture

[Amit]

That is ridiculous and would have no logical use.

I love it.

It would be useful for when you run out of rounds in your current clip, but know you'll die if you switch to your next weapon. Or maybe to softening them up first, while you still have shields, because you might get roasted by your own gun with no shields up.

[ICEE]

or for lighting up a joint.

[itsasylum]

These look really nice!

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/461/wwfire.gif

cred to treyarch for models/textures

[Spartan094]

Oh you. Something about the cubemaps on the glass looks out of place. The effects looks cool, need to be abit brighter and more light I guess. I am also sure your gonna find a way to make the lights go on and off on the side when shot.

Cool.

E: Shouldn't the back side of the glass be transparent? If it is it could be the angle then.

[Inferno]

Badass. Hopefully this will actually get finished unlike other zteam projects...

[Heathen]

Badass. Hopefully this will actually get finished unlike other halo CE projects...

ftfy

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/03-29-10/wunderwaffe.gif
Nice 404~

[Dwood]

Is that Halo? it doesn't look like Halo. That gun looks too good to be in halo.

[Roostervier]

reaper, that wasn't a 404 before. problem may have been on your end, or i guess for whatever reason the file was deleted. vOv

[Choking Victim]

reaper, that wasn't a 404 before. problem may have been on your end, or i guess for whatever reason the file was deleted. vOv
No, it was a 404. (http://www.halotrialmods.org/zteam/images/03-29-10/wunderwaffe.gif)

[ICEE]

I saw the image before. It was a gif of that same rifle thing that he showed in the previous post, only this time it was showcasing the particles

[Roostervier]

yeah, showed a firing animation and him strafing to the right while firing.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9477/glfirerel.gif
i like the vert grip configuration more

[t3h m00kz]

Not to fond of the transition from the re-grabbing to the origins. Other than that, not bad..

[AAA]

... Why do we see modifications for Halo, but none of them ever release?

They're still Awesome!

[ICEE]

looks like the fingers clip the sights during the insert.

[BobtheGreatII]

... Why do we see modifications for Halo, but none of them ever release?

They're still Awesome!

Because they're ripped models. So releasing them would be bad...

[Invader Veex]

That was fast. Vert grip looks cool.

[Roostervier]

looks like the fingers clip the sights during the insert.

yeah, but think about it: you're ingame and you're reloading the gun. unless you're specifically looking for it, you're not going to notice. accommodating for what is already hardly noticeable may even bring down the animation's quality. in the end, it's better to leave it as-is.

[ICEE]

yeah, but think about it: you're ingame and you're reloading the gun. unless you're specifically looking for it, you're not going to notice. accommodating for what is already hardly noticeable may even bring down the animation's quality. in the end, it's better to leave it as-is.

Yeah, better to leave every graphical glitch as is. Why UV stairs? Just texture it from top down, no one looks at the side of them anyways.

[t3h m00kz]

Yeah, better to leave every graphical glitch as is. Why UV stairs? Just texture it from top down, no one looks at the side of them anyways.

In reality, game devs are usually so packed full of work they usually have to leave minor things that don't break gameplay as won't fix.

[ICEE]

Guys, I gave a valid bit of criticism. It is for cad to do with as he wants. If he doesn't want to take it, he doesn't have to. Why does this have to trail on for 5 posts?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://img256.imageshack.us/img256/3842/knife.gif

animated projectiles

[Heathen]

cool shit

[Amit]

Looks cool and all, but I'm more interested in the plasma pistol. It looks fantastic.

[t3h m00kz]

it's obviously ripped from reach

[Amit]

I don't doubt it.

[jcap]

Looks cool and all, but I'm more interested in the plasma pistol. It looks fantastic.
http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/7035/pp2r.jpg

[Amit]

Pretty cool. Too bad Halo doesn't support Anti-Aliasing.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

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[Limited]

Oh thats purrrdy.

[PenGuin1362]

need that for the pit to look prettier

[ODX]

Seems a bit weird where the fire starts a few feet from the barrel (unless that's the "realistic" way).

In my opinion it would look, maybe even feel, better if the fire started at a much closer distance.

[ThePlague]

Yeah, same as what ODX said (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgYpRpiZmf0).

[Heathen]

napalm =/= flamethrower

Flamethrower catches gas on fire, hence the distance between barrel and flame. Napalm is like...liquid fucking fire. Spewing out of the hose.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

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[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Beautiful.

[Limited]

Love the brute shot particle effects.

[hry]

I love the neddler and the fire nade.

[Dwood]

I'm surprised you are all still beating up HCE. I suppose however putting the assets in Halo instead of, say, Unreal, it keeps MS and Bungie off your backs.

[ICEE]

I think the plasma rifle looks pretty bland, needs more contrast.

[DarkHalo003]

Okay, it's taken me forever to catch up with the new stuff, but here I go:

-Grenade Launcher animations and model are an excellent conversion! Idk if you animated the grenade launcher yourself, but you could have easily fooled me into thinking it was converted if it isn't.

-The Flamethrower, I think, needs more of something near the "barrel" (whatever you call it) when you fire it because it looks like there's a gap between the flamethrower's barrel and the flame itself. Other than that, freaking nice work.

-The Needler is incredible. I mean, it's probably the most amazing one I've seen in CE. Ever.

-Great conversion with the plasma pistol. It's also probably the best I've seen in CE (until the charging, which I'm very picky about [personal taste]).

-The PR looks great, but I think it needs more juiciness to the color. It looks very much like Halo2's, but I think it needs more contrast like ICEE said.

-Splazer is awesome. Cleanest one I've seen so far.

-Everything about Brute Shot is amazing. Keep it up!

-The Fuel Rod Cannon is also incredible. If I could pick anything out of the entire group for a release, it'd be this (we need better FRCs out there that look this good).

-I really don't like the particle effects of the Firenade. It's probably just CE being crappy with it, but I think it looks too bland and pixelish for a goo firenade (never seen a really good one in CE, the Flamethrower's effects were the best I've seen tbh).

Overall this stuff is amazing. Please keep it up.

[Kornman00]

AFAIK, all actual content (sounds, anims, etc) is extracted from the newer engines then fixed up so they can be imported into CE. But, that leaves CAD having to setup the shaders, effect, damage_effect, weapon, etc tags which is a bigger chore since we don't know how those tags are structured in the new engines and thus can't base some of the tag data off of their values.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

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[t3h m00kz]

Ah yes, I did that with a shock rifle a while back.

Collision + health + death effect = awesome.

[Mythril]

Nice sniping skills.

Everything looks great, except for the plasma rifles, which as stated above, looks a bit bland. Really loving the needler effects.

[Boba]

gosh cad that is just great

[Inferno]

Why do you do all this stuff if you never ever plan to release it?

[ICEE]

Why do you do all this stuff if you never ever plan to release it?

I've wondered this too. Also, if your not going to release it, why show it?

[Inferno]

Modding for me is 2 part satisfaction. Building and designing something is 1 part and releasing something and knowing other people enjoyed it as well is the second part.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

It will, in the pit; peng just needs to finish up his part

[ODX]

I've wondered this too. Also, if your not going to release it, why show it?Well, it's his Gallery thread which pretty much also serves as a more in-depth critique thread. If CAD is ever to be hired (ever thought about who you'd maybe work for?) then he's going in with a much better idea of his arts than if he weren't to post them.

Plus he's just showing us some of the neat things Halo can do.

[ICEE]

Obviously guys, if he is trying to get hired, linking them to this thread is a GREAT way to do it.

You don't get hired for ripping.

[Inferno]

You don't get hired for ripping.

I'm pretty sure heathen was being sarcastic.

ODX... Not so much.

[SnaFuBAR]

ok, enough of that. get back on topic.

[Corndogman]

Very nice stuff. Only thing I don't like is the way the flamethrower goes up at the end. It needs to sort of dissipate and spread out as it moves up at the end, instead of all moving up in one perfect stream. That's just my opinion though, Idk if you're trying to copy the real thing or what, I just think it would look better that way.

[ikesmasher]

yo, the link to that badass assault rifle on page two down. does anyone have it to reupload?

[Lateksi]

Sniping rockets would be hard online as you'd need to lead the shots. Otherwise I think that's very cool (like Mookz' shock rifle was too).

[GrahmcrackerL33T]

I can texture that assault rifle you have :iamafag:

[CtrlAltDestroy]

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[NotZac]

The best.

[ThePlague]

That's fucking awesome!

[Heathen]

That looks fantastic.

[CrAsHOvErRide]

CAD is the #1 Halo Modding Guru

[ODX]

You fucker you killed it :[

Plan to make an enter/exit animation that actually fits?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Yeah, sooner or later.

[PenGuin1362]

after you make my damn lifts so i can finish my map >: (

[hry]

ohh wow seriously you are the best at modding ce.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

http://halotrialmods.org/zteam/cad/images/spiker.gif

[Inferno]

That is a really cool way to use the A-Out functions. If the warthog didn't already have 4 functions that would look cool on the barrels of the chaingun.

[ICEE]

why, I wonder, did bungie implement that feature for the spiker instead of the guns that overheat as part of gameplay

[Lateksi]

They didn't?

[Inferno]

why, I wonder, did bungie implement that feature for the spiker instead of the guns that overheat as part of gameplay

Are you saying you wanted bungie to do it or your mad because they did? I just accidentally your entire post.

[ODX]

why, I wonder, did bungie implement that feature for the spiker instead of the guns that overheat as part of gameplayBecause the actual guns that overheat (mainly plasma weapons) aren't made by cavemen.

[Heathen]

It really did that in Halo 3? Fuck I didn't notice.

[ODX]

No, it does it for Reach's Spiker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hHV0hoI4i8).

[ThePlague]

Hey CAD, what ever happened to zombies?

[Heathen]

No, it does it for Reach's Spiker (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4hHV0hoI4i8).

badass

[Amit]

I like the red flashing in the top right corner of the HUD to indicate that you're almost out of rounds.

[ICEE]

Sentence had too many commas, I don't get it.

I am asking why they made the spiker overheat visually instead of the plasma weapons, which overheat as part of gameplay is all. Maybe they did, or maybe they have every intention to. I don't know. It just seems like that would be the logical progression

[Kornman00]

Maybe because the plasma weapon bodies themselves aren't made out of metal, or of materials which have a higher melting point? Spikers aren't modeled after Forerunner tech after all.


That is a really cool way to use the A-Out functions. If the warthog didn't already have 4 functions that would look cool on the barrels of the chaingun.
Nonsense, the warthog gun weapon only has A and B-out in use. C and D are free.

[DarkHalo003]

That was great. Probably one of the best things I've seen in CE for weapons in a while. It's especially awesome because it's the Spiker.

[Inferno]

Maybe because the plasma weapon bodies themselves aren't made out of metal, or of materials which have a higher melting point? Spikers aren't modeled after Forerunner tech after all.


Nonsense, the warthog gun weapon only has A and B-out in use. C and D are free.

The warthog_gun.weapon doesn't have control over the chainguns model and texture (too my knowledge) and the warthog.vehicle has all 4 slots filled.

[Invader Veex]

-spiker pic-

Damnet, I thought I was the first to do that!

[Donut]

that effect would be pretty badass on a warthog chaingun though. if it actually does have all 4 function blocks taken, what could you replace? the headlights maybe?

[CrAsHOvErRide]

that effect would be pretty badass on a warthog chaingun though. if it actually does have all 4 function blocks taken, what could you replace? the headlights maybe?
read Korn's post

[CtrlAltDestroy]

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excuse the horrific video thumbnail

[Hunter]

Looks good :) I want to model that weapon, looks interesting.

[ODX]

They look a bit boring and uninspired to be honest with you, they need more emphasis on force and some slightly faster/accented movements. I guess I can cut you some slack seeing as you don't do FP Animations much these days anymore (at least to my/our knowledge) but I'll give you my run-down anyhow:

Ready- Simple enough, I'm alright with that, but the vents could close a bit sooner. Right now it seems like the animation ends and then the vents close, like it was tacked on last minute.
Melee- Pretty good, though it seems like you struggled a bit with the right arm and its rotation due to how far out the gun is. Clean it up a bit, perhaps a bit of frame-by-frame animating to fix the snapping/clipping issues before/during the melee, and then when it's going back down to origin. Speaking of the return to origin, I'm not too fond of how it just kind of 'slides' into the origin while all the other animations have a bit of bounce to them. Idea itself doesn't get you many points either, but I suppose there's only so many ways you can wack people with a gun...in Halo.
Throw-Grenade- The hand kind of just 'flings' itself from top to bottom, there doesn't seem to be any wrist rotation at all and it makes it look like you're just clawing the air rather than throwing a grenade billions of yards. Gun movement is nice, but the return to origin looks like you just put the first frames in backwards instead of adding something from complete scratch that's noticeably different from the first half of the animation.
Fire-1- Not really much to say here.
Reload- Again, kind of lacking any interesting motion. It's more of an animation for a reload just to have one, rather than something that the player would actually take notice of and be like "Hey, that's kind of neat." I think you should make a bit of gun recoil when the 'mag' pops out too as well as the hood flying up like you have. There's lots of room for a more detailed return to origin as well, something more eye-catching and fitting to the animation instead of the little kind of 'bob' you have which lasts only about 3 frames or so.

All in all though it's still a nice set, but nothing too spectacular (even with a Reach weapon). The execution of each animation is still nicely balanced and doesn't look like someone completely inexperienced/out of it for months did it, it's mainly the ideas that are really lacking.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

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credit to con for the emp particle bitmap

[DarkHalo003]

Is your timer started immediately or after first bounce (I want to know if first bounce actually works before I mess with my tag too much)? Also, nice shaders and effects. If you use a timer-based explosion for the standard, then increase for a bit longer; the standard doesn't bounce high enough.

[Amit]

The projectile speed seems a little slow. Is that how it is in Reach?

[Higuy]

The animations are a bit sloppy at the end of the reload imo.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

reload was actually taken from my previous grenade launcher set (http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?11196-GALLERY-cad-s-craptacular-creations&p=535139&viewfull=1#post535139) (just edited it to use a horizontal foregrip configuration as opposed to vertical). I'm doing a new one because frankly, i don't like it that much either and its a bit too long for practical use.

[DarkHalo003]

The projectile speed seems a little slow. Is that how it is in Reach?
It may be a bit faster in Reach, but increase the speed too much and you have issues with the bounce going out of proportion in height. I have mine set at 14 for the initial and I might even decrease it further.

[Heathen]

can it do the...holdy....waity thing?

[ODX]

No fire-1 animation?


can it do the...holdy....waity thing?Not sure if that's possible with standard Halo 1 tagging.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Because the weapon only has one round per mag, it plays the reload-empty animation immediately when you fire, cutting into the fire animation. What i shouldve done was integrate the fire animation into the reload (like the stock RL animations), but i figured this set was placeholder anyways.

[TVTyrant]

Yo Halcyon. Bumps man. Bumps.

[Amit]

A reallllly shitty one too.

[Spartan094]

Why did you continue to post info we know? And just post after 4 days? And you obviously didn't know what darkhalo ment either. He was talking about replicating it in Halo CE and NOT talking about reach.

also your bump at the top is shitty

[BobtheGreatII]

Isn't he talking about the timer that's in the tags that initiate the explosion a certain amount of time after the first bounce? What counter is being talked about?

[hry]

cad's death?

[DarkHalo003]

Isn't he talking about the timer that's in the tags that initiate the explosion a certain amount of time after the first bounce? What counter is being talked about?
You are correct. He thinks what I mean by timer is the display that keeps track of the distance between the gun and the grenade.

Halcyon, in HCE's engine the tag for the projectile has a property that is dubbed "timer starts immediately" and a property that is called "timer starts after first bounce." The "Timer" is the property in the HCE engine that designates the time after which an explosion of the projectile will occur. For example, if I set the timer to "immediately" and set the timer's counter to 3, then the projectile will explode after 3 seconds (or if it hits a material that is marked with 'detonate') after leaving the weapon. However, 'after first bounce' is an enigma to me because it doesn't actually mean "after the first bounce of the projectile to a collideable surface." I think someone knows what it actually means here, but I recall someone saying it's just a broken part of the CE engine.

[Warsaw]

Applies to needler, maybe? I don't think I've seen a needle bounce more than once in Halo CE.

[Dwood]

Applies to needler, maybe? I don't think I've seen a needle bounce more than once in Halo CE.

Applies specifically to the grenades. The timer before they explode starts after they bounce 1 time.

[DarkHalo003]

Applies specifically to the grenades. The timer before they explode starts after they bounce 1 time.
How do grenades work and where is their source? I've looked endlessly in tags surrounding them (and the tags themselves) and have failed to identify what makes the grenade different than other projectiles (besides it being a key part of globals). Is it in the globals that allows it such a decent function?

Needler needles actually of a detonation timer either by distance or by time (i'm positive it's distance). They can bounce once and then attach/detonate because of how the materials are set up (they should continuously bounce if they had no timer and were in a room of metal-thick or hunter shield).

[Patrickssj6]

It's hardcoded into the engine...just like you can't pickup a warthog as a weapon :P

[DarkHalo003]

It's hardcoded into the engine...just like you can't pickup a warthog as a weapon :P
:(

I was hoping I could make the projectiles of the Grenade Launcher I was working on more like grenades with that timer starting after first bounce. Are you sure there is no way at least that is possible using any .weapon tag?