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P-Thunder.
April 20th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I highly recommend this card! I got an Over clocked edition, from here:
http://www.novatech.co.uk/novatech/specpage.html?msi-86gto&P=0

It has 320bit memory bandwidth, instead of the slandered 128bit. I did a video stress test in CSS with everything maxed out i got 120fps average.

I also ran stalker set to high and got very good FPS. Some areas slowed down in stalker. But this is because of poor optimization. People with 8800's are having issues with stalker.

This is a great budget dx10 card. I strongly recomend it to anyone who is a on tight budget and cant stretch to the 8800. It also does not drain power, it does not require extra support from the PSU, all it needs is a PCI-E port. I am running a 400W power supply.

Rummer has it, this card will run crysis fine, providing the rest of the system is up to standard. My specs:

AMD Athlon 3700+ 2.2GHZ
1GB ram
Nvidia 8600GT
Windows vista ultimate.

All in all, this is a great card for low budget gaming. The performance it gives out for the price is incredible!

stalker 4589
April 20th, 2007, 09:07 AM
im really need a new card probs pick this one up

Current specs
Intel pentium d, 2.8GHz
1gb ram soon to be 2 if i cant get the money
Radeon X1300/X1550 Series
WIndows vista home premium

Amit
April 20th, 2007, 09:45 AM
the link doesn't work

someone
April 20th, 2007, 10:04 AM
I'll just post in here, so that I don't need to make a new topic for this.

I'm going to buy a new graphics card soon. At first I was thinking of buying a geforce 7600GT, but then the geforce 8600 series were announced and I didn't have enough money back then to buy a 7600GT either. So I decided to wait for them. And now when they've finally arrived, I'm not sure which card will work fine for my PC. I know the 7600GT will work fine, but I'm not sure about the 8600GT.
Here are my PC specs.:

AMD Sempron 64-bit 3000+ @ 1813 MHz
1 GB ram
Integrated Geforce 6100 with 256 MB(It will be able to run H2V, but I still want a new one :P)
200 GB HDD
Windows XP/Vista Ultimate dualboot

I have the money I need to buy either 7600GT or 8600GT. But I still need to know if my PC will be able to handle the 8600GT or not.
So, will it be able to handle it?

Varmint260
April 20th, 2007, 10:09 AM
120FPS on max settings? Man, my comp really IS in the Dark Ages... maybe I'll hold off on my notebook until they can make an 8600 GO for it, eh?

P-Thunder.
April 20th, 2007, 10:33 AM
The link works fine mate.

Yes, "Someone" that card will work with your machine, but find out your power supply wattage, and make sure your mobo is PCI-E. Although, your CPU slows you down an awful lot and wont be able to get the best out of this card because of it.

someone
April 20th, 2007, 10:49 AM
My motherboard has a PCI-E slot and you're right. I need to check my power supply and I think I'll have to buy a new one too with more watts. But that's not a problem, because I have enough money for both things.
Thanks P-Thunder.:)

P-Thunder.
April 20th, 2007, 10:58 AM
You might not need to buy a new PSU. I think the minimum these things will run on is 350W, but i do recommend a 400W.

btw, My onboard is a Geforce 6100! There not that great are they? haha.

someone
April 20th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Yeah. But they're still cool :P

Atty
April 20th, 2007, 01:20 PM
Hurr, there is already a thread for this.

Oh and I get 300 FPS in sources stress test, whoopdie doo, sup very easy game to run :hurr:

murads
April 20th, 2007, 01:36 PM
Muhahaha sorry guys i have an ultimate gfx card Radeon 1950xtx with a crazy processor AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 Dual Core Processor 2.81 GHZ And 2047 ram

Atty
April 20th, 2007, 01:42 PM
Muhahaha sorry guys i have an ultimate gfx card Radeon 1950xtx with a crazy processor AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 Dual Core Processor 2.81 GHZ And 2047 ram


Murads, your PC is nothing to be proud of. :lol:

10 point deduction from your E-Peen. :)

InnerGoat
April 20th, 2007, 02:34 PM
It has 128bit memory bandwidth, instead of the awesome 320bit. :eng101:

P-Thunder.
April 20th, 2007, 03:14 PM
Wrong! Its 320bit, = ]

Also, my CPU bottlenecks this card. = ]

Atty
April 20th, 2007, 03:25 PM
Wrong! Its 320bit, = ] No. You are wrong. It's 128bit.




GeForce 8600 GTS GeForce 8600 GT GeForce 8500
Stream Processors 32 32 16
Texture Address / Filtering 16/16 16/16 8/8
ROPs 8 8 4 Core Clock 675 MHz 540 MHz 450 MHz
Shader Clock 1.45 GHz 1.19 GHz 900 MHz
Memory Clock (Data Rate) 2 GHz 1.4 GHz 800 MHz
Memory Bus Width 128-bit 128-bit 128-bit
Frame Buffer 256 MB 256 MB 256MB / 512MB
Outputs 2x dual-link DVI 2x dual-link DVI ?
Transistor count 289 M 289 M ?
Price $200 - $230 $150 - $160 $90 - $130

InnerGoat
April 20th, 2007, 03:26 PM
You are wrong, good sir. Look on MSI's website, or any review for that matter. It is 128bit.


http://global.msi.com.tw/index.php?func=proddesc&prod_no=1193&maincat_no=130&cat2_no=136


:eng101:

{MMT} Pope
April 20th, 2007, 03:44 PM
I like my radeon x1950 pro. even though it cost 300 dollors.(thnx god for birthdays).

Atty
April 20th, 2007, 03:49 PM
I like my radeon x1950 pro. even though it cost 300 dollors.(thnx god for birthdays).:lol:

Where in the hell did you get ripped off Three for a 1950 pro?!

Hell, my 8800GTS was only $289. LOL

Amit
April 20th, 2007, 08:16 PM
Maybe he's Canadian, here in Canada we have to pay $300+14% Tax for that card. Well it's what i payed.

Atty
April 20th, 2007, 09:33 PM
Maybe you can't read? :aims above post count:

P-Thunder.
April 21st, 2007, 08:37 AM
Chipset nVidia Geforce 8800GTS Video Memory Installed 256MB DDR3 Core Clock Speed 580MHz vs 540MHZ Standard Memory Clock Speed 1.6GHz vs 1.4 GHz Standard Memory Bus 320 bit Cooling Fansink Features Shader Model 4.0, UltraShadow II Technology, Intellisample 4.0 technology, nVidia PureVideo TechnologyShall i quote it again for you guys? ;)

See the bit where is says memory bus? Do you see the 320bit?

InnerGoat
April 21st, 2007, 09:34 AM
That says 8800GTS, not 8600GT.

And the specs are wrong there too, 8800GTS comes in 320 and 640mb variants.

P-Thunder.
April 21st, 2007, 10:51 AM
I thought they were right as its the Overclock edition, regardless, iam very happy with this card.

someone
April 21st, 2007, 11:06 AM
Oh, and one more question. Will the 8600GT perform better than my current 6100 with my PC or not?

mR_r0b0to
April 21st, 2007, 02:56 PM
You're kidding, right?

Atty
April 21st, 2007, 03:12 PM
Someone -- Yes....obviously...HOW THE HELL COULD YOU ASK THAT QUESTION!? :gonk: We need to know your god damn specs, too. :durr:

"I thought they were right as its the Overclock edition, regardless, iam very happy with this card."

You can't change anything but the Core and Mem clock speed with overclocking, there is no way to change the amount of memory or the bus, unless you are nVidia. That site you got it from is also full of so many mistakes on hardware information.

someone
April 21st, 2007, 04:57 PM
You're kidding, right?

Someone -- Yes....obviously...HOW THE HELL COULD YOU ASK THAT QUESTION!? :gonk:
Sry. I got a little bit too confused with this:


Although, your CPU slows you down an awful lot and wont be able to get the best out of this card because of it.
:o

P-Thunder.
April 21st, 2007, 05:11 PM
Someone -- Yes....obviously...HOW THE HELL COULD YOU ASK THAT QUESTION!? :gonk: We need to know your god damn specs, too. :durr:

"I thought they were right as its the Overclock edition, regardless, iam very happy with this card."

You can't change anything but the Core and Mem clock speed with overclocking, there is no way to change the amount of memory or the bus, unless you are nVidia. That site you got it from is also full of so many mistakes on hardware information.

Yeah, there was lots of confusion on this card, as i ordered that on April 17th, the realse date. The mem bus is hardware, and cant be changed. Its like over clocking a pentium 4 into a duel core :P

Still, i read reviews before on this card so i new what to expect. It is better than i expected. Also, someone, the 6100 is terrible compared to the 8600. Even with a poor system, you would see an increase from a 6100. = ]

Atty
April 21st, 2007, 05:29 PM
Someone -- Regardless of your CPU bottleneck you'll still notice an improvement on a dedicated card vs your integrated 6100. Although you've got to be sure you've got a slot for it. There is only a PCI-E version of all the 8 Series, so be sure you've got a PCI-E slot.

But you are better off upgrading your system, a 1.8 Semperon is eck.

TPE
April 21st, 2007, 05:48 PM
ill wait for more info on the R600 and X2900 or w/e

also i have a 1.8 sempron

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/TPE_NS/rateing.jpg

Xetsuei
April 21st, 2007, 07:26 PM
Muhahaha sorry guys i have an ultimate gfx card Radeon 1950xtx with a crazy processor AMD Athlon 64 FX-62 Dual Core Processor 2.81 GHZ And 2047 ram

Hahahaha. :suicide:

someone
April 22nd, 2007, 02:02 AM
Also, someone, the 6100 is terrible compared to the 8600. Even with a poor system, you would see an increase from a 6100. = ]

Someone -- Regardless of your CPU bottleneck you'll still notice an improvement on a dedicated card vs your integrated 6100. Although you've got to be sure you've got a slot for it. There is only a PCI-E version of all the 8 Series, so be sure you've got a PCI-E slot.

But you are better off upgrading your system, a 1.8 Semperon is eck.
That's what I've wanted to know. I wasn't sure about the processors response to the 8600GT, but now I know. My motherboard has a PCI-E 16x slot, so I don't need to worry about that. But I still have to check my PSU. And I'm also thinking about buying a AMD Athlon 64 3700+ in the near future, but the 8600GT will be the first thing that I'm going to buy. Thanks for your help guys:)


also i have a 1.8 sempron
http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/TPE_NS/rateing.jpg
I have the same base score that you have :P

P-Thunder.
April 22nd, 2007, 08:20 AM
If you can get a a duel core, though it depends on your mobo socket,

Techno Dude
April 24th, 2007, 08:13 AM
im really need a new card probs pick this one up

Current specs
Intel pentium d, 2.8GHz
1gb ram soon to be 2 if i cant get the money
Radeon X1300/X1550 Series
WIndows vista home premium
same i got an intel pentium :d 3.4 ghz but i need vista home premium which sucks ass
an a faggot friend of mine needs a 8600 or 8500

P-Thunder.
April 24th, 2007, 11:25 AM
This is my performance rating from vista. Its based on the lowest thing in your computer, my CPU being the lowest, and memory just a little higher.

http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/6861/vistperformqq2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

I like my CPU though, AMD Athlon 64 3700+
Note: Iam not running 64bit vista, so i cant get the best out of this CPU. Iam waiting for more 64bit support.