XM-25 Rifle

[Newbkilla]

http://video.foxnews.com/v/4438880/xm-25-rifle-in-action

Next-gen exploding round rifle. awesum :allears:

[TVTyrant]

Older than old. The XM25 is simply another development of the long defunct XM29, which also spawned off the XM8.

[Amit]

Seems a bit inhuman to pepper somebody with that.

[Newbkilla]

Older than old. The XM25 is simply another development of the long defunct XM29, which also spawned off the XM8.

Yeah except they are actually going to use this. I only found this because my dad works at WPAFB (Air force base in ohio).

[Cortexian]

Pretty old, saw stuff like that years ago and it's never really caught on with the military. The weapons system itself is just to bulky to be issued to anyone to carry around, it functions more like a rocket or missile launcher than a rifle.

[TVTyrant]

Yeah except they are actually going to use this. I only found this because my dad works at WPAFB (Air force base in ohio).

That's what they said 10 years ago when I first read about it in popular science 21st century solder...

[Kornman00]

Foxnews lol

What if the "enemy" is on a bicycle? They can't hide but they sure can run!

[Limited]

Ammunition sounds expensive.

[paladin]

Foxnews lol

I was gonna say that, but I kept the inner troll silent

[Donut]

Next-gen exploding round rifle. awesum :allears:
when i read this i thought i was about to watch a video of the Dragon from perfect dark.

id be lying if i said i wasnt a tad disappointed

[RedBaron]

Looks ugly as fuck. I would hate to be the pack mule to have to carry that on the field.

[DarkHalo003]

I thought the UN determined bullets similar to the "dummy bullet" inhumane or something like that. I can't imagine this weapon ever seeing combat though; the U.S. always creates prototypes but seldom sends them off completed. Just my two cents though.

[Warsaw]

We have 12,500 on the way to Afghanistan. I guess they will be seeing combat. :downs:

Let me get this straight: they can dump millions of dollars on this piece of shit and its over-expensive ammunition, but not spend more to acquire better body armour? What the fuck? Hell, a simple re-chambering of all our M16s and M4s to 6.5 Grendel or 6.8 SPC would be more beneficial than this.

[Kornman00]

The US gov't doesn't just dump millions, it dumps billions into bunk military equipment and programs. But the gov't aren't the only ones to blame. You can add contractors to that list too. The only way to be a successful contractor in today's gov't is to milk it for every penny and half-cent it's worth. The only way to do that is to develop piss poor tech that only you, the contractor, can maintain and continue to "develop". The only way to do that is to be a fucking asshole. The only way to do that is to be an over-patriotic American or money mongering twit.

In a way, China is the one getting left with the bills when it comes to our military spending. Let's hear it for China!


I was gonna say that, but I kept the inner troll silent
Someone must have had their vicodin today then

[TVTyrant]

What Korn says is mostly truth, but there is no real way to fix the problem. If we went to a low bid contract system, it would only insure that the US gov't would receive terrible products. One way we could do it is 1930s style, where companies developed with their own cash, but the amount of money it cost would be enormous, and manufacturers could make tons off of civilian sales anyways. Just my two cents...

[Warsaw]

Or the military could say: "We want this with this result. Whoever comes up with the best take gets our money." If I'm not mistaken, they contract BEFORE getting a finished product based on what the contractor is promising, which means a fuckton of money goes out the window.

[DarkHalo003]

Or the military could say: "We want this with this result. Whoever comes up with the best take gets our money." If I'm not mistaken, they contract BEFORE getting a finished product based on what the contractor is promising, which means a fuckton of money goes out the window.
You think this is how it would work, but I guess there are too many bros up in the military HQ and Washington for anything decently organized to occur. I was pretty sure there were like three different types of Body Armor out for prototyping, one of which is Dragon Armor or something that's supposed to be really good.

[paladin]

The US gov't doesn't just dump millions, it dumps billions into bunk military equipment and programs. But the gov't aren't the only ones to blame. You can add contractors to that list too. The only way to be a successful contractor in today's gov't is to milk it for every penny and half-cent it's worth. The only way to do that is to develop piss poor tech that only you, the contractor, can maintain and continue to "develop". The only way to do that is to be a fucking asshole. The only way to do that is to be an over-patriotic American or money mongering twit.

In a way, China is the one getting left with the bills when it comes to our military spending. Let's hear it for China!


Someone must have had their vicodin today then

I was talking with my dad (Works at Boeing, Everett), he said that over the past 20 years, Boeing alone has been paid something like 20 billion just for R&D for the military. Some of the shit he showed me (stuff never released) was pretty cool.

also yes I did

[TeeKup]

Most people don't know it but both Boeing and Lockheed Martin also have heavy investments in other civilian aerospace (other than standard commercial airliners). I know Lockheed Martin also contracts out to NASA, most of the time however people just know them as Defense contractors because that's where the majority of their activity is.

On a side note, I really haven't heard of Northrop Grumman in a while, are they still in the game?

E: Took a look and it seems they still are, they just haven't been very vocal about, at least I haven't heard any recent activity.

[Limited]

Pretty sure US Government have a 3 billion contract with an English company, just for sniper rifles. Doesn't surprise me that they spend so much on arms, US is known for its military power. Plus they have the most enemies.

[paladin]

you cant be the most powerful country with shitty technology... debt, however, is another story.

[PenGuin1362]

SCAR ftw.

[Kornman00]

What Korn says is mostly truth, but there is no real way to fix the problem.
Wasn't suggesting there was. Trying to change the way the gov't is like trying to jump into space, from the surface of Earth. Before you barely get off, gravity pushes your arse right back down to where it was before.

It's a cancer that no one cared to diagnose at the start and now it's grown too much and too far in the host to reverse.

[Cortexian]

Speaking of contracts and new weapons and such, what DID happen with the SCAR? Last time I heard it was selected as the winner of the new-rifle challenge thing, was selected to become the main service weapon, then it was dropped, then picked up by USSOCOM or w/e, and then dropped again, and then the Rangers picked it up or something.

Where does it stand now? Will it become the next general-service rifle? It should.

[Kornman00]

It was so awesome that the gov't didn't want anyone to have it in fear of a single enemy soldier getting their hands on one :snypa:

[RedBaron]

I think SOCOM is dropping the mk 16 entirely and only putting in orders for the mk 17

[343guiltymc]

How long before this weapon gets implanted into a COD game?

[TVTyrant]

3 months when the modern warfare 3 trailer hits YouTube...

And the American armed services have a TERRIBLE record of implementing new weapons. I think one of the brass must be relate to Samuel Colt or something.

[Cortexian]

Why is this in Tech-Talk? It's clearly Off-Topic.

[ICEE]

guns = technology.

[Kornman00]

Why is this in Tech-Talk? It's clearly Off-Topic.
Why are you posting? You're clearly an idiot

:mech2:

[PenGuin1362]

I think SOCOM is dropping the mk 16 entirely and only putting in orders for the mk 17

According to the government, there isn't a current necessity or strong enough reason to replace every weapon with the standard MK16. However, they are getting the SCAR-H for SOCOM units.

[Cortexian]

Tech Talk - Games, gadgets, tech support, cool devices - put all your tech-related discussion in here.

Guns falls under Off-Topic imo. Airsoft guns would be more deserving of Tech Talk forum than firearms, sorry.

[Warsaw]

XM-25 is a computerised weapon system. It fits. It also counts as a cool device, even if it is ugly as hell.

[Cortexian]

The optic is computerized, then there are some wires running from that to the ammunition.

[Warsaw]

Telling the ammunition when and how to detonate. The ammunition has to have some kind of device in it to make the settings stick, be it analogue or digital; probably digital.

[TVTyrant]

Probably all digital unless they have a little arm attached to the buttons that turns an internal wheel in the round WWII Flak style.

[=sw=warlord]

Tech Talk - Games, gadgets, tech support, cool devices - put all your tech-related discussion in here.

Guns falls under Off-Topic imo. Airsoft guns would be more deserving of Tech Talk forum than firearms, sorry.

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Sorry for your loss.

[Cortexian]

Fits in off-topic better still. All gun related stuff goes into off-topic. Maybe if there was like beam cannons being outfitted to Navy ships it could go here.

[ICEE]

Holy fuck bro, drop it. this thread has been around how long without a moderator giving a shit?

[Cortexian]

Freelancer for moderator 2011

[Cortexian]

That's right faggots. It's on Off-Topic NAO!

[InnerGoat]

this thread sucks and your posting needs major improvement :)

[n00b1n8R]

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[Patrickssj6]

halo ce is dead

[Donut]

This gun sucks in BF4.

[Dani]

I have a 111 and its a nice gun for the money. My next rifle will be an FNAR

[n00b1n8R]

joined 2009, first post today. What's with that??

[TVTyrant]

8=========B

Nice uncircumcised penis

[n00b1n8R]

I'm a bad goy.

[FluffyDucky™]

Holy fuck, this site is still alive?!

Hi guys :)

[InnerGoat]

hi welcome to are dead forams :)

[Cortexian]

no

[ThePlague]

What is this place?

[Dani]

Really all kinds of helpful material.| Awesome write ups, Cheers! - http://www.viagrabelgiquefr.com/

[Dwood]

Can we delete the post ^^^^^^

[TVTyrant]

Can we delete the post ^^^^^^

No it stays. Unless we actually get a Halo Online mod running this forum shall remain a graveyard.