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t3h m00kz
December 15th, 2011, 05:52 AM
the fuck is this shit.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/14/sopa-protect-ip_n_1140180.html

(http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/14/sopa-protect-ip_n_1140180.html)http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_Online_Piracy_Act

TLDR welcome to american internet censorship controlled by the entertainment industry. They now have the power to can shut down whatever domains they want if they feel it's linked to piracy or copyright infringement. Going to be voted on tomorrow I believe. Big-name supporters like Apple, EA, Nintendo, Sony, Activision, etc. Opposition includes Google, Yahoo!, Facebook, Twitter, AOL, LinkedIn, eBay, Mozilla Corporation, the Brookings Institution, and human rights organizations such as Reporters Without Borders.

The beginning of iLife.

Timo
December 15th, 2011, 06:18 AM
This ought to be good

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/popcorn_yes.gif

t3h m00kz
December 15th, 2011, 06:31 AM
welp. since we're all posting halo screenshots and mods we're obviously infringing copyrights.

been nice knowing you guys~~

p0lar_bear
December 15th, 2011, 07:08 AM
At the rate things have been going on Capitol Hill, this'll probably get passed regardless of the People's opinion.

Hope they know that the more they do in the name of protecting their profits, the harder their shit's going to get "stolen."

Zeph
December 15th, 2011, 07:29 AM
The moment it get's passed, I'm going to report as many of the sites that supported it for copyright violation as possible and get them shut down. I don't want them stealing my awesome song or even allowing people to steal my awesome song that could make me billions of dollars.

neuro
December 15th, 2011, 07:37 AM
i vote cut off america from the internet alltogether.

Internet2.0 incoming!
and imagine all the intelligent discussins that shall be had without mindless americans spouting their drivel.

edit: no offence to any american citizens present here who have intellect capable of restraining itself from spouting said drivel.

MXC
December 15th, 2011, 07:39 AM
I love watching Let's Plays. I can't imagine what this is going to do to Slyfox, GassyMexican and all of machinima.com.



I'm scared.

=sw=warlord
December 15th, 2011, 07:54 AM
I thought we already had a thread on this from months ago?

MXC
December 15th, 2011, 08:01 AM
I thought we already had a thread on this from months ago?


That was ACTA.

t3h m00kz
December 15th, 2011, 08:02 AM
I never saw it and I don't see anything skimming the first page.

Ryx
December 15th, 2011, 10:33 AM
Looks like a reworded PROTECT-IP, but I thought this was a few months old?

Hotrod
December 15th, 2011, 11:36 AM
So let me get this straight, America is trying to get total control of the internet? Fuck that shit.

MXC
December 15th, 2011, 06:58 PM
http://www.keepthewebopen.com/sopa

Live coverage of the bill.

neuro
December 16th, 2011, 05:20 AM
i hope it passes, and then the EU declares war on the US :D

sleepy1212
December 16th, 2011, 06:36 AM
i hope it passes, and then the EU declares war on the US :D

They're more likely to call us a "shining example of forward thinking" and one-up us with an amendment to the EU charter that shuts off the internet altogether.

neuro
December 16th, 2011, 07:13 AM
EU politicians are of a lower degree of braindead than US politicians, i doubt that'd happen.

MXC
December 16th, 2011, 07:21 AM
Straight from the Twitter of Team Meat.
I have never loved a game developer more than Team Meat right now.
http://i.imgur.com/05Poa.png

neuro
December 16th, 2011, 07:46 AM
http://www.waitingforthestorm.com/list-of-companies-which-support-sopa-internet-censorship-hall-of-shame
http://www.thedominoproject.com/2011/12/who-wants-to-break-the-internet.html

like people will all stop using their Iphone.
everyone's always all up in arms shouting YEAH BOYCOTT BOYCOTT, but they'll all buy in at the very first second they can.

MXC
December 16th, 2011, 08:27 AM
I'd say that's reason enough to crack my iphone now.

=sw=warlord
December 16th, 2011, 10:40 AM
Time to go download some keygens and pirated movies.
Yeah that's a great idea, give them even more reason to back this bill.

p0lar_bear
December 16th, 2011, 12:25 PM
Yeah that's a great idea, give them even more reason to back this bill.
Hollywood and software giants are like giant aspies. They don't get the subtle hints that the stricter they license their media, the more it's going to get cracked and pirated, especially when the DRM gets in the way for legitimate end users/viewers.

I'm not saying I am or am not contributing to it, but if the bill gets passed, the results will probably be hilarious.

=sw=warlord
December 16th, 2011, 12:39 PM
http://rdr.zazzle.com/img/imt-dzn/pd-235164378336920175/isz-m/tl-Don't+Poke+The+Aspie!.jpg

Warsaw
December 16th, 2011, 02:07 PM
http://www.waitingforthestorm.com/list-of-companies-which-support-sopa-internet-censorship-hall-of-shame
http://www.thedominoproject.com/2011/12/who-wants-to-break-the-internet.html

like people will all stop using their Iphone.
everyone's always all up in arms shouting YEAH BOYCOTT BOYCOTT, but they'll all buy in at the very first second they can.

I know it's alphabetized, but I find it hilarious that Autodesk and Adobe are at the top. Two of the worst software monopolists right now. Sorry, I don't care how productive your software is, but paying $4000 for something intangible (like code) is a joke for non-studio purposes. How is a man supposed to teach himself to use your product so he can get a job, using your product (and therefore supporting it), if he can't afford the product at home to learn with?

TeeKup
December 16th, 2011, 02:11 PM
Has this failed yet?

t3h m00kz
December 16th, 2011, 03:53 PM
Meeting was adjourned. They're going to try again in 2012.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397764,00.asp

Warsaw
December 17th, 2011, 03:16 AM
Now we need to focus on Protect IP...

Cortexian
December 17th, 2011, 03:51 AM
Opposition includes Google, Yahoo!, Facebook, Twitter, AOL, LinkedIn, eBay, Mozilla Corporation, the Brookings Institution, and human rights organizations such as Reporters Without Borders.
If said organization continues to oppose this it will never pass, we all know Google practically owns the Internet.

TVTyrant
December 17th, 2011, 04:51 AM
If said organization continues to oppose this it will never pass, we all know Google practically owns the Internet.
It owns 3 of the four most visited websites. Yep.avi

Warsaw
December 17th, 2011, 05:12 AM
Yeah, but both Microsoft and Apple are backing it, not to mention practically the entire entertainment industry.

=sw=warlord
December 17th, 2011, 06:09 AM
Yeah, but both Microsoft and Apple are backing it, not to mention practically the entire entertainment industry.
There's always room for a little bit of hostile takeover.

t3h m00kz
December 17th, 2011, 08:49 AM
Microsoft is actually against it from what I hear.

dark navi
December 17th, 2011, 10:24 AM
I heard Hitler was against it. He's a good guy.

TVTyrant
December 18th, 2011, 12:50 AM
I heard Hitler was against it. He's a good guy.
Im pretty sure hes dead or at least a hundred years old by now. Even if Hitler were alive he probably wouldn't know how to use a computer.

:sheldon:

jcap
December 18th, 2011, 02:16 AM
Im pretty sure hes dead or at least a hundred years old by now. Even if Hitler were alive he probably wouldn't know how to use a computer.

:sheldon:
Same goes for 99% of Congress. :downs:

king_nothing_
December 18th, 2011, 03:06 AM
IDK man, this guy seemed to be pretty tech savvy. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f99PcP0aFNE)

MXC
December 18th, 2011, 10:25 AM
Microsoft is actually against it from what I hear.

Seeing as how Team Meat has/had a contract with Microsoft, it makes sense that they were able to get away with their twitter comment.

Bodzilla
December 18th, 2011, 08:15 PM
JhwuXNv8fJM

t3h m00kz
December 18th, 2011, 10:21 PM
Seeing as how Team Meat has/had a contract with Microsoft, it makes sense that they were able to get away with their twitter comment.

which one was that

neuro
December 20th, 2011, 05:00 AM
the boycott & pirate all their shit- one

t3h m00kz
December 23rd, 2011, 04:39 AM
WJIuYgIvKsc

Wow. Apparently the corporations opposing SOPA were the ones who originally distributed the piracy software.

MXC
December 23rd, 2011, 08:07 AM
Oops, hold on, going to do some twitter digging.


which one was that

In case I can't find it, I remember reading that the reason Super Meat Boy will never be released on the PS3 is because of some contract Team Meat signed with Microsoft.

Zeph
December 23rd, 2011, 09:55 AM
Wow. Apparently the corporations opposing SOPA were the ones who originally distributed the piracy software.

Well, GoDaddy has hopped on the bandwagon and is supporting SOPA. Thanks to reddit, they're losing tens of thousands of domains daily as people switch out. On top of that, GoDaddy is easily one of the most infringing parties.

king_nothing_
December 23rd, 2011, 10:15 AM
I wish I had website registered with GoDaddy just so I could switch to another company right now.

Anybody here who does should switch it.

http://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/nntxp/godaddys_response_to_the_boycott_go_daddy_has/

Nero
December 24th, 2011, 11:44 AM
I literally just bought domains and servers this month with them. Spent way to much money to just up and go. Oh well. :(

king_nothing_
December 24th, 2011, 12:22 PM
SWITCH NAO

Cortexian
December 24th, 2011, 01:01 PM
He did actually just spend a lot there, against my better judgement (I recommended Dream Host).

Not just domains either, if it was just domains he could switch for free.

thehoodedsmack
December 24th, 2011, 01:32 PM
Guess it's time to drop my Go Daddy domain!

Nero
December 24th, 2011, 01:44 PM
THEY AREN'T SUPPORTING IT ANYMORE!

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2011/12/victory-boycott-forces-godaddy-to-drop-its-support-for-sopa.ars

thehoodedsmack
December 24th, 2011, 06:12 PM
Doesn't change the fact that they're losing my business. In fact, I'd recommend that anyone who has switched away from Go Daddy remain so, as a warning to any company that would consider something like this in the future. Them changing their position after taking a loss only shows that profit is the most important factor for them, and not "to support security and stability of the internet". They had one shot at my business, and they blew it. Case closed.

TVTyrant
December 24th, 2011, 06:25 PM
Who pays for domains anyways?

king_nothing_
December 24th, 2011, 06:35 PM
Doesn't change the fact that they're losing my business. In fact, I'd recommend that anyone who has switched away from Go Daddy remain so, as a warning to any company that would consider something like this in the future.
Agreed.

Also, current top story on Reddit:

GoDaddy has NOT withdrawn its official congressional support for SOPA (http://www.reddit.com/r/technology/comments/npair/godaddy_has_not_withdrawn_its_official/)

jcap
December 24th, 2011, 07:56 PM
I have no idea why anyone would choose GoDaddy to begin with.

Nero
December 24th, 2011, 10:01 PM
I have no idea why anyone would choose GoDaddy to begin with.

Used it since 07, hard to break bad habits. :(

p0lar_bear
December 25th, 2011, 06:23 PM
I have no idea why anyone would choose GoDaddy to begin with.


Used it since 07, hard to break bad habits. :(

Pretty much that, though they're just my domain registrar. I wanted a dotcom back in 05-06 and godaddy was cheap.

I'd find a new registrar but I'm fucking lazy, plus I owe them like $40 due to a bounced check + the yearly registration fee. Hell, the domain's sitting in dead water since it's not tied to any web space and I haven't had the time to make a new site.

Ryx
January 8th, 2012, 11:37 PM
The equivalent of this censor, this shit is back.

The Internet Kill Switch bill, officially called the Protecting Cyberspace as a National Asset Act, gives the President the authority to police, censor and shut down parts of the Internet under a cyber emergency. While promoting the bill, Lieberman openly called for the U.S. to have the same ability to censor the Internet as China.
Source (http://www.opencongress.org/articles/view/2458-PIPA-first-on-Senate-agenda-on-Jan-24th-2012).

Mindfuck. (http://presstv.com/usdetail/219844.html)

why is this shit not on the news?

neuro
January 9th, 2012, 03:59 AM
not even remotely surprised.

Warsaw
January 9th, 2012, 05:05 AM
Fucking damnit.

I hate living here.

EX12693
January 9th, 2012, 05:32 AM
Time to buy some ammo.

I'm not even kidding.

=sw=warlord
January 9th, 2012, 08:20 AM
Oh wow.
Someone is really determined to fuck you guys over.

TeeKup
January 9th, 2012, 08:56 AM
I don't even see how Lieberman can believe he's justified in his bullshit policies.

DarkHalo003
January 9th, 2012, 09:00 AM
0j1xzezy8k4

:iamafag:

Oh yeah, Obama is a good president!

TVTyrant
January 9th, 2012, 09:44 AM
Because the PATRIOT Act didn't get this ball rolling.

Good thing I already got my gun.

Ryx
January 9th, 2012, 10:43 AM
I'm legit drafting a letter to my congressmen... actually women and I doubt they'll actually give enough of a fuck to do anything.

DarkHalo003
January 9th, 2012, 11:50 AM
Because the PATRIOT Act didn't get this ball rolling.

Good thing I already got my gun.
Nope. He could of Veto'd it.

Looks like I should work on my hacking skillz now. :iamafag:

=sw=warlord
January 9th, 2012, 03:13 PM
Not that his veto would actually account to much.
Congress could always veto his veto. (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presveto.htm)

DarkHalo003
January 9th, 2012, 03:38 PM
Not that his veto would actually account to much.
Congress could always veto his veto. (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presveto.htm)
Sadly, although it rarely happens. He still could have tried to say the least, though I really doubt he gives a fuck enough about the U.S. citizens' well-being.

=sw=warlord
January 9th, 2012, 03:50 PM
Sadly, although it rarely happens. He still could have tried to say the least, though I really doubt he gives a fuck enough about the U.S. citizens' well-being.
No, he just ordered Gitmo to be closed and tried introducing a standardized public healthcare service.
That's a hell of a lot more for the US citizen his predecessor did, GWB stripped you of alot of rights.

You know, there's a technical term to being unable to to see what's staring at you in the face and instead prefer what's invisible and likely none existent.
It's called being thick.

Warsaw
January 9th, 2012, 05:34 PM
Not that his veto would actually account to much.
Congress could always veto his veto. (http://usgovinfo.about.com/od/thepresidentandcabinet/a/presveto.htm)

Pocket Veto.

DarkHalo003
January 9th, 2012, 10:06 PM
No, he just ordered Gitmo to be closed and tried introducing a standardized public healthcare service.
That's a hell of a lot more for the US citizen his predecessor did, GWB stripped you of alot of rights.

You know, there's a technical term to being unable to to see what's staring at you in the face and instead prefer what's invisible and likely none existent.
It's called being thick.
Yeah, you should stop being thick.

1.) I understand Gitmo closing was good. I never said its closing was not.

2.) Just because countries outside the U.S. have free health care does not mean it will work for the U.S. Our government sucks at running anything (look at our fucking Congress, bureaucracy, and how shitty current social benefits are), it is COMPLETELY UNFEASIBLE GIVEN OUR CURRENT ECONOMIC STATE AND WE DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO EVEN SUPPORT THIS BY 2014, and it fucks with every other non-governmental system (I know, I worked in an office that dealt with Medicaid and Medicare, both of which back everything up and cause a shitstorm of frustration for both the consumer and provider). On top of all of this, health care that the government would give us would do almost NOTHING to lower the prices of operations and whatnot people would go in for. Obamacare (or whatever the fuck you wanna call it) is a fraud.

3.) If your still stuck on GWB, then fucking get your head out of your ass. Talk about thick.

And Warsaw is right, although it is a lot more difficult to accomplish than originally intended.

=sw=warlord
January 10th, 2012, 05:34 AM
PSST.

I (http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/nhshistory/Pages/NHShistory1948.aspx)t won't work because people are too shit scared about something social turning communist.
We've already debated this.

DarkHalo003
January 10th, 2012, 03:51 PM
PSST.

I (http://www.nhs.uk/NHSEngland/thenhs/nhshistory/Pages/NHShistory1948.aspx)t won't work because people are too shit scared about something social turning communist.
We've already debated this.
No, it's not that, it's because it won't work. Too entirely different things. Our president worked with the bill because almost every liberal/Democratic in the country was exclaiming for it. Naturally, conservatives are against another expenditure as such (as it is a major leap in infrastructure changing), but the educated individuals here see that it won't work given the U.S.'s current circumstances regarding the economy and how much health care is corporate. Maybe one day in the future, but not now or within this decade.

TVTyrant
January 10th, 2012, 04:54 PM
No, it's not that, it's because it won't work. Too entirely different things. Our president worked with the bill because almost every liberal/Democratic in the country was exclaiming for it. Naturally, conservatives are against another expenditure as such (as it is a major leap in infrastructure changing), but the educated individuals here see that it won't work given the U.S.'s current circumstances regarding the economy and how much health care is corporate. Maybe one day in the future, but not now or within this decade.
In order for it to happen within a decade, you have to start working for it though. Thats what you're not understanding. These things don't just happen. Its not just a bill that gets passed and everything works out. There is work to be done. Steps to be taken. Its not magical.

Also I kept reading WarLord's posts in Sheldon Cooper's voice.
Amazing.

DarkHalo003
January 10th, 2012, 05:06 PM
In order for it to happen within a decade, you have to start working for it though. Thats what you're not understanding. These things don't just happen. Its not just a bill that gets passed and everything works out. There is work to be done. Steps to be taken. Its not magical.

Not exactly sure how my posts hint that it "just happens." I even inferred that if it would work it would be after this decade.

=sw=warlord
January 10th, 2012, 05:21 PM
Not exactly sure how my posts hint that it "just happens." I even inferred that if it would work it would be after this decade.
You want more jobs to help boost your economy?
You want better health care and not be proved in the colon by insurance companies?
You better get to work sooner rather than later.

If everyone went by the motto of "meh get it done next decade" nothing would ever be done.

DarkHalo003
January 10th, 2012, 06:08 PM
You want more jobs to help boost your economy?
You want better health care and not be proved in the colon by insurance companies?
You better get to work sooner rather than later.

If everyone went by the motto of "meh get it done next decade" nothing would ever be done.
1.) Government jobs in the U.S. are shit. As they are now, they do jackshit for the economy. They pay jackshit (though I'm not to exclude them simply because it IS a job) and give you benefits of jackshit (seriously, we've covered how horrible our government's current benefits are). Basically, here is the problem with your statement there: just because it works in Europe and Canada, doesn't mean it works in the U.S. You can take my statements as what you want, but considering you aren't taking the time to research both sides then this entire post is more or less wasting internet. Now if you're proposing we turn the Bureaucracy into the right track and fix it up, then I completely agree. The bureaucracy is a load of shit as is. However, government jobs do nothing for the U.S. economy when you delve into it all. That's part of being an entirely capitalist society.

2.) You don't live in the U.S. and are going by the "industry-fucks-its-consumers" mentality that every ass-mad-ranting American blogger curses about. The proper health insurance companies (yes, they exist) and certain sectors of the medical industry (the private sector is good, seek it out) are perfectly fine and reliable. My family is in the private sector of medical and I've worked for the private sector of medical. You're not skull-fucked until you reach the corporate-sector, which in case you have every right to be pissed. However, if you're smart and obtain good health insurance (Aflac is a great start) by researching before you bitch about it all, then you'll realize "Obamacare" is unnecessary. There is only one exception to the "Our government sucks with running healthcare" sentiment I rant on about and that's the Federal inclusion of Blue Cross Blue Shield in certain jobs, such as Education, though I don't entirely know the specifics behind it all in terms of how much involvement the government has. Here's the link in Wikipedia for it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Cross_Blue_Shield_Association

My dad is a college professor who is not on the tenure track, which is how I know a bit about Blue Cross Blue Shield as a medical insurance provider.

3.) This decade is not the appropriate time to setup nor attempt to operate ANOTHER social-benefit in the U.S. The economic is still in decay and our government is becoming more and more questionable. It needs massive reformation and an entire re-haul of the bureaucracy before tackling healthcare for everyone.

But enough about healthcare and Obama's inability to fulfill promises in a thread about SOPA. PM me if you want to continue this conversation.

TVTyrant
January 10th, 2012, 10:16 PM
You want more jobs to help boost your economy?
You want better health care and not be proved in the colon by insurance companies?
You better get to work sooner rather than later.

If everyone went by the motto of "meh get it done next decade" nothing would ever be done.
No comments on my Sheldon Cooper joke? :(

Phopojijo
January 10th, 2012, 11:37 PM
No, it's not that, it's because it won't work. Too entirely different things. Our president worked with the bill because almost every liberal/Democratic in the country was exclaiming for it. Naturally, conservatives are against another expenditure as such (as it is a major leap in infrastructure changing), but the educated individuals here see that it won't work given the U.S.'s current circumstances regarding the economy and how much health care is corporate. Maybe one day in the future, but not now or within this decade.Actually "conservatives" (unsure whether to upper-case or lower-case that in this situation :p) are not against adding expenses. They are more against bringing the Government into something which can be privatized. Efficiency is still damned, as is evident in private healthcare as well as private prisons; they would rather Government just sends public money to be wasted in a hole rather than being the hole themselves.

Warsaw
January 10th, 2012, 11:56 PM
The reason privatized shit gets screwed is because those privatized industries lobby to keep themselves small and stifle competition so they can charge high.

Phopojijo
January 11th, 2012, 12:00 AM
The reason privatized shit gets screwed is because those privatized industries lobby to keep themselves small and stifle competition so they can charge high.Which touches on my point: Everyone -- including both Government and Private Sector -- want to screw you... so standing on one side or the other is meaningless.

"Don't vote for the Democrats, they want Government to waste money."
"Don't vote for the Republicans, they want Government to give money to people to waste."

How about you just force whatever politician is in power to just do their effin' job in the first place. Demand for them to do something positive... rather than sitting idly by and waiting until they do or try to do something egregiously negative and rallying against them. Of course do that too -- but not solely that.

DarkHalo003
January 11th, 2012, 12:02 AM
Great way of putting it all Phopojijo!

Warsaw
January 11th, 2012, 12:11 AM
Which touches on my point: Everyone -- including both Government and Private Sector -- want to screw you... so standing on one side or the other is meaningless.

"Don't vote for the Democrats, they want Government to waste money."
"Don't vote for the Republicans, they want Government to give money to people to waste."

How about you just force whatever politician is in power to just do their effin' job in the first place. Demand for them to do something positive... rather than sitting idly by and waiting until they do or try to do something egregiously negative and rallying against them. Of course do that too -- but not solely that.

I agree with you. I'm just pointing it out in case some people don't get that. I stand for my own personal benefit. Enlightened self-interest.

=sw=warlord
January 11th, 2012, 07:28 AM
No comments on my Sheldon Cooper joke? :(
Of what I saw when I looked the name up.
No, No I am not like him at all.
for a start his voice is pretty damn high compared to mine, my voice has a bit of a rumble to it, you can ask pooky,Warsaw or Teek.

TVTyrant
January 11th, 2012, 09:24 AM
Of what I saw when I looked the name up.
No, No I am not like him at all.
for a start his voice is pretty damn high compared to mine, my voice has a bit of a rumble to it, you can ask pooky,Warsaw or Teek.
You should watch that show.

Its hilarious.

And no I didn't mean it as an insult, it was just the tone of the thread.

Ryx
January 11th, 2012, 10:14 AM
But enough about healthcare and Obama's inability to fulfill promises in a thread about SOPA.
Yeah and SOPA/PROTECTIP/whatever it is called now wouldn't be a problem if he had actually vetoed it like he threatened to.

DarkHalo003
January 11th, 2012, 01:41 PM
I still am having issues comprehending how anyone can control the internet.

TVTyrant
January 11th, 2012, 02:56 PM
I still am having issues comprehending how anyone can control the internet.
Its impossible. They can try all they like, but the Internet will always be free.

Warsaw
January 11th, 2012, 03:51 PM
Wrong. If ISPs just ban all IPs except those on the white list, they win. They can also monitor your access, and send police to any IP that attempts to access restricted material.

Ryx
January 11th, 2012, 03:58 PM
Wrong. If ISPs just ban all IPs except those on the white list, they win. They can also monitor your access, and send police to any IP that attempts to access restricted material.Get a new internet?

Kornman00
January 11th, 2012, 05:14 PM
No comments on my Sheldon Cooper joke? :(
I laughed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwZDaa8Zkk#t=24s)

Phopojijo
January 11th, 2012, 05:48 PM
Pocket Veto.By the way -- I'm Canadian so spare me for being "ignorant". Couldn't a "pocket veto" be signed by a later President? Or is it like Canada where after an election pending bills metaphorically die in a fire?

Warsaw
January 11th, 2012, 05:50 PM
It dies. Congress would have to start it up again when they come back from vacation (!) and resubmit to the executive for signature.

Also, ignorance doesn't annoy me. People talking out of their ass while being obviously ignorant annoys me. Not trying to sound like I'm the one to decide, but you've been fine since you know the limits of your knowledge (which is actually quite good).

Phopojijo
January 11th, 2012, 06:14 PM
Yeah I was being slightly sacrastic there, lol.

The joke was that it was over a relatively small point that I'm willing to guess the vast majority of common Americans don't even know... along with just about everything else we've discussed thus far.

TeeKup
January 11th, 2012, 07:11 PM
I laughed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwZDaa8Zkk#t=24s)

Show is too good. WHERE IS EP 12 OF SEASON 5 DAMNIT.

Warsaw
January 11th, 2012, 07:13 PM
Yeah I was being slightly sacrastic there, lol.

The joke was that it was over a relatively small point that I'm willing to guess the vast majority of common Americans don't even know... along with just about everything else we've discussed thus far.

Yeah. But the real problem isn't that they don't know, it's that they don't care to know.

DarkHalo003
January 11th, 2012, 08:29 PM
Yeah. But the real problem isn't that they don't know, it's that they don't care to know.
Unfortunately, the Pocket Veto can ONLY be used on the brink of a Congressional "vacation" simply because it can easily backfire. If Congress does not disperse before the duration of the President's overlook of the bill expires, then that bill becomes law. It's a very tricky situation that happened from (please correct me if I'm wrong here) the Jackson era considering he used it very effectively (and a shit ton as well).

TVTyrant
January 11th, 2012, 10:19 PM
Show is too good. WHERE IS EP 12 OF SEASON 5 DAMNIT.
IT SHALL BE ON IN 23 HOURS AND 30 MINUTES!

FUCK I CANNOT FUCKING WAIT!

I laughed (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qwZDaa8Zkk#t=24s)
Excellent reference.

TeeKup
January 14th, 2012, 04:23 PM
The forging of The American Empire continues.

Ryx
January 16th, 2012, 04:50 PM
Since you all seemed so concerned. (http://oversight.house.gov/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=1558%3Aissa-flawed-sopa-bill-not-headed-to-house-floor&catid=22%3Areleasesstatements) The only thing they think is wrong is the DNS editing :P because, y'know, that would do so much to stop me anyways.

king_nothing_
January 17th, 2012, 07:36 PM
Is the mighty Modacity going black tomorrow!?!??!? I think this very influential website could give the strike the extra boost it needs!

:caruso:

TVTyrant
January 17th, 2012, 07:42 PM
If only Google would go black, so people would have to use shit like bing.

king_nothing_
January 17th, 2012, 07:45 PM
Hopefully they'll at least do something such as put up a special logo and link to some info about it. Is there any word about anything like that?

STLRamsFan
January 17th, 2012, 11:35 PM
They already got a logo and message/petition set up right now.

neuro
January 18th, 2012, 03:13 AM
http://theoatmeal.com/sopa

MXC
January 18th, 2012, 10:19 AM
http://www.vgcats.com/

EDIT: Holy shit, even 4chan is censoring themselves. 4chan. Censoring themselves.

DarkHalo003
January 18th, 2012, 01:14 PM
http://www.vgcats.com/

EDIT: Holy shit, even 4chan is censoring themselves. 4chan. Censoring themselves.
They must be preparing a counter attack....:iamafag:

=sw=warlord
January 18th, 2012, 01:22 PM
Shazam! (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/money)

itszutak
January 18th, 2012, 01:46 PM
All of my websites are down so I can't procrastinate properly

MXC
January 18th, 2012, 05:58 PM
Shazam! (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/money)

Wasn't Microsoft a supporter of SOPA?

itszutak
January 18th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Well MS is under "opposing" but so's GoDaddy so perhaps they changed their mind?

Ryx
January 18th, 2012, 07:11 PM
Shazam! (http://www.opencongress.org/bill/112-h3261/money)
"1% Users Support Bill"

Kazam! (http://youtu.be/WJIuYgIvKsc)

Warsaw
January 18th, 2012, 09:07 PM
Well MS is under "opposing" but so's GoDaddy so perhaps they changed their mind?

Yup. Don't trust the defectors, though.

TVTyrant
January 18th, 2012, 10:53 PM
When is the vote happening? I would check wikipedia, but its black for another seven minutes.

Ifafudafi
January 18th, 2012, 11:17 PM
protip: adblock http://geoiplookup.wikimedia.org/

(oh well I guess it doesn't matter anymore still tmyk)

t3h m00kz
January 19th, 2012, 01:09 AM
I don't think MS ever actually supported sopa. from what I hear they silently opposed.

neuro
January 19th, 2012, 04:04 PM
http://www.change.org/petitions/stop-the-esa-petition-and-boycott-e3#


in response to

http://penny-arcade.com/patv/episode/stand-together-the-gaming-community-vs-sopa-and-pipa

TeeKup
January 20th, 2012, 01:30 PM
In recent news today. We win.

http://mashable.com/2012/01/20/sopa-is-dead-smith-pulls-bill/

I would like to congratulate Anonymous yesterday by simultaneously taking down several major websites being used by the government as well as heavy SOPA supporters. As well as to everyone who bitched to congress, I know I did. This was probably one of the most venomous outcries the internet has ever done.

ejburke
January 20th, 2012, 02:48 PM
You really think Anonymous was helping anything? Common sense and reason prevailed, not cyber-shananigans. You don't get your point across through provocation and if Anonymous were the only opposition to the bill, it would have passed out of sheer spite.

TeeKup
January 20th, 2012, 02:55 PM
Of course they didn't help. It was still funny as hell though.

rossmum
January 22nd, 2012, 02:32 PM
people who proposed this are still in office, it's not over yet. write angry letters to/about them, raise awareness for when they try pass this shit again in a year or three

EX12693
January 22nd, 2012, 05:32 PM
So.... what about ACTA? Isn't it getting voted on in a few days?

=sw=warlord
October 12th, 2012, 06:22 AM
https://www.torrentfreak.com/images/soparansombig.png

JackalStomper
October 12th, 2012, 06:45 AM
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Cortexian
October 13th, 2012, 05:53 AM
you PC and files are now blocked.