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WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 26th, 2006, 10:12 PM
Eh well I would rather post it here for whatever reason. But I am working on a MP map for ccp. Impetuous is a small canyon carved by wind, water, and time on Delta Halo. With a river running through the map from red base to blue base. The structures were made for irrigation of a larger river that flowed to a lake, but eventually the water lessened and there is only one small river now.

It's only on it's second beta, so there is still more to add/change.

http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/7841/impetuous1az6.jpg
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4052/impetuous3ib9.jpg
http://img91.imageshack.us/img91/729/impetuous4wp3.jpg


Also, the second picture, the ridges of the platform are a different texture now, so I would rather you not get bitchy on me about it. Pictures are also in chronological order. Meaning first when was the very first build (alpha actually) two days ago, second was yesterday, and third was a couple minutes ago (from when this post was made).

Stealth
November 26th, 2006, 10:34 PM
Oh, I like, looks real good.

TeeKup
November 26th, 2006, 10:37 PM
Needs more variation in terrain.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 26th, 2006, 10:43 PM
Needs more variation in terrain.Lol.

You can't see it because of the lighting... It makes everything one solid color. Look in the shadows and you can see what he terrain is like.

IPBJT!
November 26th, 2006, 10:47 PM
Maybe make the structure look damaged? I think it would add to how old they are.

TeeKup
November 26th, 2006, 10:53 PM
Lol.

You can't see it because of the lighting... It makes everything one solid color. Look in the shadows and you can see what he terrain is like.

No I saw. Im saying IMO it needs more variation.

rossmum
November 26th, 2006, 11:36 PM
Needs more variation in terrain.
Agreed, it's not flat but it does seem a bit bland.

Btd69
November 27th, 2006, 02:13 AM
Needs more variation in terrain.
I recently made a small Halo themed map with terrain that looked as flat in max, but was fine ingame.

Also, map is bad, get out :)

Rescudo
November 27th, 2006, 07:38 AM
Looks very interesting. Keep up the good work :)

What does CCP mean?

Stealth
November 27th, 2006, 08:28 AM
Looks very interesting. Keep up the good work :)

What does CCP mean?
yes, I agree, what is CCP?

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 27th, 2006, 09:00 AM
I recently made a small Halo themed map with terrain that looked as flat in max, but was fine ingame.

Also, map is bad, get out :)wai i no git luv :( /me gets out


Looks very interesting. Keep up the good work :)

What does CCP mean?Covenant Campaign Project.


yes, I agree, what is CCP?Covenant Campaign Project.

Agamemnon
November 27th, 2006, 09:10 AM
Me likey. Keep up the good work.

Rescudo
November 27th, 2006, 09:21 AM
Covenant Campaign Project.

Covenant Campaign Project.

lol, okay. Keep up the good work :)

Arteen
November 27th, 2006, 12:21 PM
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/4052/impetuous3ib9.jpg

The tunnel exits are completely unnatural. It implies that the stone used for the walls of the tunnel have absolutely no width.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 27th, 2006, 12:32 PM
The tunnel exits are completely unnatural. It implies that the stone used for the walls of the tunnel have absolutely no width.http://img319.imageshack.us/img319/9667/impetuous5vj9.jpg

So what do you suggest I do then Arteen?

Jayden
November 27th, 2006, 02:07 PM
Add a border to the outside where the wall meets the tunnel.

Arteen
November 27th, 2006, 02:26 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/door_001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/door_002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/door_003.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/door_004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/door_005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/Arteen/door_006.jpg
Something like these.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 27th, 2006, 02:29 PM
Ah, ok.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 27th, 2006, 02:49 PM
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2853/impetuous5yi6.jpg
Better? And I don't feel like making it all special with chamfered top edges because I don't feel like re-UVing the cliffs. Which took about 2 hours to UV...

Jayden
November 27th, 2006, 03:53 PM
u don't really have to if you're good witht he cut tool :/

Arteen
November 27th, 2006, 07:55 PM
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/2853/impetuous5yi6.jpg
Better? And I don't feel like making it all special with chamfered top edges because I don't feel like re-UVing the cliffs. Which took about 2 hours to UV...
Not by much. It looks like you didn't feel like making it all special with chamfered top edges. Besides, it wouldn't take more than two minutes to fix the cliff UVs.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 27th, 2006, 08:00 PM
it wouldn't take more than two minutes to fix the cliff UVs.I wish. :/

Chewy Gumball
November 27th, 2006, 08:25 PM
Just use the target weld tool to fix the messed faces. 30secs tops.

rossmum
November 28th, 2006, 02:15 AM
Needs more chamfer tbh.

To hell with the UVWs.

Btd69
November 28th, 2006, 06:32 AM
You wanna see a UVW error, then i'll show you the shit i'm going through with SnaFs' UVW'ing. Just fix the bloody thing you girl.

(Note to SnaF; I enjoy it :))

PlasbianX
November 28th, 2006, 02:03 PM
Wow, way to make a good map when you dont wanna spend the time to make it better and fix an error.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 28th, 2006, 03:31 PM
Wow, way to make a good map when you dont wanna spend the time to make it better and fix an error.More like I will spend time to fix it for the next build since I just did radiosity for a new build several minutes ago. :|

Arteen
November 28th, 2006, 04:34 PM
I wish. :/
It really won't. I don't see what is so difficult about it.
Collapse the UV
Detach the bad/unuved faces
Do a simple box UV or something like that
Reattach to the rest of the cliffs
Select UV unwrap
Move and rescale the altered faces to where they should be located on the UV
Weld UV vertices thereIs that so hard?

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
November 28th, 2006, 05:12 PM
Well now it wouldn't. Because I never knew how to do that. :|

SnaFuBAR
November 28th, 2006, 10:40 PM
You wanna see a UVW error, then i'll show you the shit i'm going through with SnaFs' UVW'ing. Just fix the bloody thing you girl.

(Note to SnaF; I enjoy it :))
:XD:

Pooky
December 1st, 2006, 04:32 PM
Looks like an interesting enough map... but what'll really make it shine is a lot of custom textures (I am so FUCKING sick of seeing Blood Gulch grass textures in every single map) and a new skybox. Definitely needs a lot of work, but has potential. The whole box canyon thing is a little overdone though, you should have some branching paths and possibly underground tunnels and overground walkways. Just my opinion.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
December 1st, 2006, 05:32 PM
Tunnels are already thought of and being executed. It has a new sky, thank you Boba ;p. And it really isn't a box canyon, I don't know where you get that from... It's more like an L if anything. Bloodgulch has no grass texture, it is a detail texture for the basemap, and there is no other grass detail texture (that I know of).

rossmum
December 1st, 2006, 07:18 PM
So make your own?

Chewy Gumball
December 1st, 2006, 07:21 PM
Thats hard, like super hard. The stock one doesn't look that bad.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
December 1st, 2006, 07:21 PM
So make your own?You're not serious, are you?

rossmum
December 1st, 2006, 07:24 PM
You're not serious, are you?
Possibly... how hard is it, what's involved? Never tried :p

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
December 1st, 2006, 08:04 PM
Let see you make a realistic, tile-able, good looking grass texture. :| That looks good when tiled a lot.

m13120
December 1st, 2006, 11:20 PM
:|

You say :| too much :XD: . Very interesting map, looks like one that will be fun to play. But anyways, what else is going on in CCP besides this map?

Chewy Gumball
December 2nd, 2006, 12:49 AM
Pixies and candy canes, obviously.

rossmum
December 2nd, 2006, 03:51 AM
Let see you make a realistic, tile-able, good looking grass texture. :| That looks good when tiled a lot.
Point taken.

Perhaps base it on that one, but add variation?

Btd69
December 2nd, 2006, 06:33 AM
Whiplash, will this one do?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/Btd69/detail_grass.jpg

C'mon guys, I have the hookup on all textures big and small :)

EDIT: I can pimp yo map, East Coast Australia style.

rossmum
December 2nd, 2006, 08:52 AM
Green grass? What the fuck? :O

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
December 2nd, 2006, 10:14 AM
Oh my god Btd I love you. Thanks. :)

TheGhost
December 2nd, 2006, 01:55 PM
It really won't. I don't see what is so difficult about it.
Collapse the UV
Detach the bad/unuved faces
Do a simple box UV or something like that
Reattach to the rest of the cliffs
Select UV unwrap
Move and rescale the altered faces to where they should be located on the UV
Weld UV vertices thereIs that so hard?
Would you even have to go through all of that? I usually just select the faces I want to modify and then apply the modifiers. It leaves all of the other stuff alone, so you don't really have to detatch.

Chewy Gumball
December 2nd, 2006, 02:06 PM
Ya, you don't have to detach it, and you don't have to move it, just target weld the verts.

EDIT: You have the weirdest modeling technique I have ever seen whiplash.

Arteen
December 2nd, 2006, 03:11 PM
Would you even have to go through all of that? I usually just select the faces I want to modify and then apply the modifiers. It leaves all of the other stuff alone, so you don't really have to detatch.
I'm a newb at UVing, I know. :(

Nic
December 2nd, 2006, 03:41 PM
Yea thats what I do too Ghost.

PlasbianX
December 2nd, 2006, 03:57 PM
Yea thats what I do too Ghost.

... i lol'd. I dont even think you know how to UV :lol:

Nic
December 2nd, 2006, 04:06 PM
Yea not well, but I know enough(ish) to get by.

Skyline
December 2nd, 2006, 04:54 PM
Green grass? What the fuck? :O
Yes! I never seen it green before :0.

Btd69
December 2nd, 2006, 06:35 PM
Oh my god Btd I love you. Thanks. :)
I have most environmental detail maps; snow, sand etc.

Pooky
December 3rd, 2006, 05:59 PM
Tunnels are already thought of and being executed. It has a new sky, thank you Boba ;p. And it really isn't a box canyon, I don't know where you get that from... It's more like an L if anything. Bloodgulch has no grass texture, it is a detail texture for the basemap, and there is no other grass detail texture (that I know of).

Box canyon doesn't mean shaped like a box, box canyon means it's a canyon with walls on all sides. Making it a non-box canyon would entail adding multiple pathways and possibly a cliff or some other open segment.

Btd69
December 3rd, 2006, 08:24 PM
Alot of the Halo campaign is done in that fashion..

Pooky
December 5th, 2006, 04:12 PM
Alot of the Halo campaign is done in that fashion..

Yes, I know that. That's why that kind of map is getting tired. Having a dropoff or undergruond portion of a map, or even aboveground portions of the map (Lockout, as an example?) adds a lot more depth to the gameplay than the usual Halo formula of *spawn, pistol pistol pistol death*, because you have to look up, down, and all around for enemies. Less open space and more dark corners also means much less long range pistol sniping and makes the gameplay more frenzied. What really kicks ass in a map is to have paths that utilize every facet of three dimensions. Indoor, outdoor, below and above. Danger Canyon did that, and Yoyorast Island did that. That's why you still see servers running those maps. I'm not sure why people like Blood Gulch so much but it follows the same basic formula. It has indoor portions, outdoor portions, tunnels valleys hills and cliffs. Maps like Hugeass which are nothing but large outdoor areas get old fast, and that's why that map was a fad you never see played anymore. A map has to cater to all the different playing styles of potential players, or few people will be playing it.

Btd69
December 5th, 2006, 05:16 PM
But this is an SP map.

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
December 5th, 2006, 06:10 PM
Wait Impetuous? This is actually supposed to be mp... >_>


Eh well I would rather post it here for whatever reason. But I am working on a MP map for ccp. Impetuous is a small canyon carved by wind, water, and time on Delta Halo. With a river running through the map from red base to blue base. The structures were made for irrigation of a larger river that flowed to a lake, but eventually the water lessened and there is only one small river now.Mmmhm.

Btd69
December 5th, 2006, 06:35 PM
In that case, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

WhÎþLå§h ÐÆmØÑ
December 5th, 2006, 09:15 PM
In that case, EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW:(

SgtBotley
December 6th, 2006, 08:00 AM
less text more pics :P

Chewy Gumball
December 6th, 2006, 11:25 AM
You don't tell pics when to come, they tell YOU!

SgtBotley
December 6th, 2006, 12:24 PM
lol Fair play