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Terror(NO)More
October 25th, 2007, 05:26 PM
Hey guy's I know what your all thinking.... OMG.... Terror's back. Well for all of you I know this will be hard to believe but I dont expect you to I expect you all to find it out on your own. I've changed alot over the past few months I havn't been on here, I see how my parents are and I want to be nothing like them they argue, cheat and take the easy way out they have done many stupid things like I have once before done all they have. I want to set myself apart from them and become somthing great. Im doing alot to become that great person. 1. Start on somthing and it be my work.
2. Complete it.

Im doing all this not just for me but to become a better person for her.
She's my world she's my inspiration. :rolleyes:

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Ariel.jpg

Now that I finished that here to introduce you to somthing I've been working on I know I'ts not much but I want to perfect it. Now I want any criticism, but what I dont want if hatefull criticism. I'm willing to work with you all. Please dont let it get ruined.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/WIPMap.jpg

343guiltymc
October 25th, 2007, 05:44 PM
Doesn't look anything special. She scares me.

Terror(NO)More
October 25th, 2007, 05:52 PM
What scares me is if you keep making stupid mistakes like you are posting these hateful things your gonna end up in a position where I was a while back. If you dont want to listen to me the go ahead but I know what I'm saying.

Huero
October 25th, 2007, 05:54 PM
Her expression just screams "Why the fuck are you pointing that amera at me?"
It's a joke picture, right?
Oh, and um, you're wrong; people generally hate, so from their obvious biases they'll side with him, as unfortunate as it is.

SnaFuBAR
October 25th, 2007, 05:54 PM
i thought you were banned...

As for the model, nothing special. Post wireframes without MC there. You have a lot of really bad smoothing errors, and I'm guessing... really bad poly distribution.

Con
October 25th, 2007, 05:56 PM
your story is really touching, welcome back :downs:

Skyline
October 25th, 2007, 05:56 PM
Model looks boreing, flat ground; nothing special going on here.


What scares me is if you keep making stupid mistakes like you are posting these hateful things your gonna end up in a position where I was a while back. If you dont want to listen to me the go ahead but I know what I'm saying.
Your judgement is a little off. I don't see him stealing mdoels like you did anytime soon.

DaneO'Roo
October 25th, 2007, 06:09 PM
Well, I guess now your going to have to make the most beautiful model ever, or your ass is dumpe-oshi

MNC
October 25th, 2007, 06:11 PM
Yeah, that pic showed inspiration. :v

Terror(NO)More
October 25th, 2007, 06:12 PM
I told you from that it wasnt anything special I know its boring its more of the cliffs right now and snafu you've got to realize it's not bad smoothing its how the light is hitting it there are shadows. No im not joking about her.

Here's your wireframe you requested.
In the wireframw render I know to the left I have alot of poly's I'm getting to the part over there were ill be removing most of them. first I need to put the bunker in.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/WIPMap2.jpg
http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/MapWireframe.jpg

Con
October 25th, 2007, 06:17 PM
Next time, show us your model when you've got more done than that.

supersniper
October 25th, 2007, 06:28 PM
Ok first of all what is this even supposed to be. A Single player map or multiplayer map. Second of all what is the whole purpose of this map. Is it a big map for epic battles or a small enclosed symmetrical map for a balanced game play. So far to me this is just like the very beginning of a map. Really I wouldn't have posted this yet until there was more to show.

In the mean time, so far the cliffs look good.

jngrow
October 25th, 2007, 06:46 PM
it looks like a really tiny cock in a massive vagina.

to put it lightly, the lil cliff chief is standing on looks weird, to say the least.

Rob Oplawar
October 25th, 2007, 06:56 PM
^thank you for saying that so I didn't have to.

paladin
October 25th, 2007, 07:06 PM
Seriously, that looks like a limp dick...

teh lag
October 25th, 2007, 07:42 PM
Oh boy.

A single cliff face with a ramp.




Clearly this is a testament to your newfound talent.



:eyesroll: Don't come claiming you've changed until you have something worthwhile to show for it.

CtrlAltDestroy
October 25th, 2007, 07:48 PM
gr8 model

Arteen
October 25th, 2007, 08:22 PM
I can't say much about the map so far since it's just a start (and you should have waited until you had more to show), but it's nice to see that you aren't, you know, annoying anymore. I wish you the best of luck on your new W.I.P.! Just make sure to listen to criticism.

Archon23
October 25th, 2007, 08:24 PM
Are you kidding? This is the best shit EVER.


:-3Really come back when you have more modelled just like what everyone else said to do.

p0lar_bear
October 25th, 2007, 10:58 PM
What am I looking at again? All I see is a displaced plane with another plane attached to it, and a rather phallic ramp.

Please refrain from showing us content that screams ambiguity; at least complete more than 1% of a map model before showing it off. That's like drawing a line on a piece of paper and showing it off. What the fuck are you drawing, a stick figure or the Mona Lisa?

Mr Buckshot
October 25th, 2007, 11:05 PM
I'm not a modder, so it is not in my place to criticize your work.

But I will admit that when other people post WIPs...they usually have progressed much further than you currently have.

Well at least you aren't annoying any more *recalls how you got banned for writing "hahaha" in random posts just to access the CMT exclusive area*

legionaire45
October 26th, 2007, 12:07 AM
All I'm going to say is....

YOU'RE DOING IT WRONG >=U (http://madlex.ytmnd.com/)

It looks like a strangely (by that I mean freakishly) elongated vagina. I can see where you got your inspiration from. Once again, go watch some fucking tutorials (http://tutorials.moddb.com/291/creating-a-weapon-for-source/).

Tweek
October 26th, 2007, 03:47 AM
shitty models don't make a bette lover ;)

Tarzan
October 26th, 2007, 10:10 AM
that looks like a giant tongue coming out of the wall... just what kind of inspiration is she giving you??

SnaFuBAR
October 26th, 2007, 01:43 PM
Isnafu you've got to realize it's not bad smoothing its how the light is hitting it there are shadows.
I'm pretty sure I know better than you that it's bad smoothing. Stop making excuses for yourself and fix the crappy mesh and smoothing so you don't end up with those ugly smoothing errors.

Elite Killa
October 26th, 2007, 01:53 PM
it looks like a really tiny cock in a massive vagina.
I think I know why that girl in the pic is your inspiration...:-3

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 03:30 PM
Snafu, your right I dont have the right to tell you what right and wrong your 110% better than me at modeling. And as far as smoothing, HOW do I make the smoothign look better and can you like make a short tutorial for me or find me a Good one to show how exactly to make cliffs? I could really use that and it would help and be appreciated GREATLY.

Now I have a sketch of what I have so far as the layout of the map, but I would like some Suggestions and Ideas on what I could add and do, now I need to go take a shit so I will be back in a moment so stay in here.

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/Layout.jpg

supersniper
October 26th, 2007, 03:36 PM
How do you access the island? Can you walk over the river? Also this is basically a circle. I would include some caves in the cliffs. Or some underground passages under the river. Also have a sniping area in the waterfall. Wait this reminds me of a map. Timberland, without the trees. Maybe not exactly the same but similar. Also where are the bases? I can see how the gameplay will be but to me this map seems pretty boring right now from your design. Try spicing it up a bit.

MNC
October 26th, 2007, 03:37 PM
Do we need the pass, and for that matter, your bowel movement?

Masterz1337
October 26th, 2007, 03:45 PM
You should be on CMT.

Gamerkd16
October 26th, 2007, 03:51 PM
How smoothing groups work:

http://www.h2vista.net/files/images/smooth_group_spheres.jpg

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 03:56 PM
Supersniper, yes I know there are deff gonne be caves and passages but I couldnt draw it on the paper. Waterfall sniping spot good idea, and also the water isnt that deep you can walk in it. I just need a great Idea on how to make the cliffs and how to make them look right smoothed. That's why I need snafu's ass on here. Thanks for the tip's and idea's it really gave me great Idea's. Uhmm and also there will be two building's built into the cliffs like bunkers with walkways up to them. If anyone is real good with drawing, draw me some forunner stuff up. I could use some stuff.

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 04:01 PM
Sorry for double post but, what I mean how do you smooth CLIFFS exactly, I know different smoothing groups, but not how to smooth cliffs exactly. Thats why If you coud make a render of a clidd with smoothing explaining it, or a video It will help alot, if not I will have to wait for Snafu or someone else who can but thanks for trying to help. :)

Gamerkd16
October 26th, 2007, 04:06 PM
I would say have the cliff floor one smoothing group and then the cliff side another smoothing group.

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 04:17 PM
Gamer thats what I did but look it looks like shit

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/WIPMap3.jpg

Sel
October 26th, 2007, 04:26 PM
I would say have the cliff floor one smoothing group and then the cliff side another smoothing group.


Yey, now I know how smoothing works :D

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 04:28 PM
Ok can you hook me up with a tutorial of some sort on how to make the cliffs right and then how to smooth them correctly please?

teh lag
October 26th, 2007, 04:29 PM
Gamer thats what I did but look it looks like shit

http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/WIPMap3.jpg

I wouldn't say that smoothing alone is making it look like that. You have still to show us anything impressive - all I see is more of the same.

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 04:46 PM
Ok lag not getting mad at your crit but your not helping me much in this situation, Is that bad smoothing or what, or do I not need to smooth my cliffs??? Im starting over no matter what but I need to know what to do to improve myself here.

teh lag
October 26th, 2007, 04:49 PM
You need variation. All you have are cliffs and boring ground. Give it feeling, make it interesting. It's great that you can do cliffs, but everything else is lacking.

Inferno
October 26th, 2007, 04:53 PM
there isnt anything else... also in your design you have water flowing uphill from the looks of it... well thats how i saw it.

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 05:06 PM
Oh so I can do them right????? You say????
If so then thats good, yea I know my ground and everything lacks im mainly working on cliffs right now though.

Tweek
October 26th, 2007, 05:19 PM
wow. deformed surfaces. impressive.
do you even have a cluw of what a good model SHOULD look like?'

dun fink sow
theres a model of dangercanyon on halomaps.
or rip some maps yourself, and learn from them.

Terror(NO)More
October 26th, 2007, 05:32 PM
Lol ripping.... Thats the old me...But ill do it to learn

Tweek
October 26th, 2007, 05:38 PM
its just another way to learn from the best tbh.

i've ripped plenty of things from UT3 already, and it already taught me alot of things, and already changed the way how i'm making maps for it.

paladin
October 26th, 2007, 07:34 PM
Get a god damn hair cut.

SnaFuBAR
October 26th, 2007, 10:43 PM
basically what i see is quads being used for the cliff faces. you need to do diagonal cuts to get the geometry breaking correctly. that's about as simple as i can make it.

so,
not this: [ ]
this: [/] or [\]
depending on which three dimensions the cliff is bending.

Terror(NO)More
October 27th, 2007, 12:25 PM
Snafu now thats the information I needed! Thanks. I'll be working on my cliffs and I'll show you what I get to when my friends internet gets back up cuz ill be at his house. Im telling you if I can get this map how I can picture it itll be one of the maps for the year to be most played.

I came home to get shit off my computer I needed.

Skyline
October 27th, 2007, 12:28 PM
Im telling you if I can get this map how I can picture it itll be one of the maps for the year to be most played.
Oh really? I should be looking forward to this map then.

Tweek
October 27th, 2007, 12:42 PM
thats what everyone thinks.

Boba
October 27th, 2007, 01:04 PM
Get a god damn hair cut.
Best post in the thread.

Bastinka
October 27th, 2007, 02:30 PM
We all pretend to be somebody we're not, but people have a girl of their own. SnaF has a fiance, and we don't brag about it and tell everyone their our inspiration. Teen love doesn't really last, but with the model.... I really dislike it :/

Looks too squishy. Needs more variations, too boring. Make the cliffs have spikes, some random caves and falls here and there. Mix things up a bit, change something to make it have more of a fun gameplay feel to it. It doesn't really matter of quality but how much fun in gameplay you can have.
After the 100th time the map should still be fun to play, thats what I try to do :]

Hunter
October 29th, 2007, 03:45 PM
I think it is looking pretty good, keep on working on it.

Terror(NO)More
October 29th, 2007, 06:55 PM
I think that it is coming out to a better result now but it may not be to you all. Well lets get it started.


http://i125.photobucket.com/albums/p70/bman12_2006/WIPMap-1.jpg

343guiltymc
October 29th, 2007, 07:00 PM
That tube on the right looks a dick. What exactly are you making? Halo porn? :/

Archon23
October 29th, 2007, 07:03 PM
That reminds me. Where the fuck did that Penis map go?

Roostervier
October 29th, 2007, 07:04 PM
That arch thing (beaver creek styled =p) needs to blend in to the cliff more, lest it be mistaken for something else. See above post.

[edit]343's, not Archon's. Archon posted before me. D:

Skyline
October 29th, 2007, 07:05 PM
That tube on the right looks a dick. What exactly are you making? Halo porn? :/
No. That clearly looks like an arm. :downs:

Smoothing still isn't that great, I can see the edge of where that tube joins with the cliff. The ground is still too flat.

SnaFuBAR
October 29th, 2007, 07:06 PM
start over.



e: you didn't change, at all. i knew it was bullshit.

343 you like to think about penis's so much and call everything one why dont you go suck a cock and then shove it up your ass and let it spue. Not getting all offensive but I think your post are unessesary.

Edit: Skyline There is no ground yet thats called a refrence plane lol.

Terror(NO)More
October 29th, 2007, 07:11 PM
Lol, I did change I just dont appreciate his comment its VERY unessesary and excuse me for my outburst.

EDIT: I'm not going to start over ill just edit what I have,
and I don't have to listen to you I can make my map how I want, but i'm wanting helpful comments and ideas, but what I should really be doing is making it be what I want, so Iits like what I wanted not you all, butim sticking with your alls help

EDIT 2: Seriously snafu you should make a tutorial for me on how exactly to model cliffs it would be very appreciated of you. Plus I want to see if you really can model them :P :) Well guys I think im gonn ahead out for the night I have school and I need the sleep, its very time consuming.

Boba
October 29th, 2007, 07:11 PM
i found another picture of ur gf on the internet man

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ac/Acdc_Highway_to_Hell.JPG

Roostervier
October 29th, 2007, 07:14 PM
Lol, I did change I just dont appreciate his comment its VERY unessesary and excuse me for my outburstIt was his honest opinion... it obviously means that you need to change the way you model.


343 you like to think about penis's so much and call everything one why dont you go suck a cock and then shove it up your ass and let it spue. Not getting all offensive but I think your post are unessesary.

Edit: Skyline There is no ground yet thats called a refrence plane lol.
What the fuck? Dude, you think that isn't getting offensive? Wow.

SnaFuBAR
October 29th, 2007, 07:14 PM
I refuse to excuse you. If you've changed, you wouldn't do that. As I said before, start over on this. It's got poor poly distribution and definition.

CtrlAltDestroy
October 29th, 2007, 07:27 PM
gr8 model

i retract this statement you are stupid and i hate you:mad::mad::mad::(:(:confused2::)

FRain
October 29th, 2007, 07:37 PM
^

:lmao:

Terror, you havent changed a bit since we last saw you. You've turned into me, the community failer.

Whenever you get constructive criticism, you explode.

Skyline
October 29th, 2007, 07:41 PM
The edge of the cliffs where the ground is going to interact is completely flat. If you model like that all the way around the map the cliffs will all be at the same elavation.

Roostervier
October 29th, 2007, 07:41 PM
Yes, exploding and saying that it is unnecessary does not mean that it isn't criticism. Half the time it is and you just don't like it. <_<

HDoan
October 29th, 2007, 07:55 PM
Well this just tells us that some people never change :(

LlamaMaster
October 29th, 2007, 08:04 PM
That reminds me. Where the fuck did that Penis map go?
Rendered pictures of sex organs insidehttp://img142.imageshack.us/img142/6426/sexmapsx9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)http://img165.imageshack.us/img165/214/sexmap2os9.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

Yah, I'm the guy who joined up with him to make the sex map. I made tits, ass, balls and penises, but he could never do his part. Team failed pretty early on.

Also, terror, you haven't changed. I still find you as annoying as you have always been. You claimed to have changed, but I see no improvement. Your model is horrible, and I would of thought you could make something decent by now. You need to rethink your situation here before you get yourself banned.

teh lag
October 29th, 2007, 08:08 PM
I think that it is coming out to a better result now but it may not be to you all. Well lets get it started.


[image]


Wow, you COMPLETELY ignored all suggestions and crit in this thread, and then tried to shove some "it's better now" bullshit down our throats. We're not idiots, we see that and we KNOW it's the same shit that we saw on the first post, just in a greater quantity. We gave you the benefit of the dobt when you came back and said you had changed - even if we were harsh we still gave you some advice, and you completetly ingored it. Leave and don't come back, you aren't wanted here.

Bastinka
October 29th, 2007, 10:52 PM
Well guys I think im gonn ahead out for the night I have school and I need the sleep, its very time consuming.
We're not all guys here, and I'm sure your life is very interesting. From the models we can all tell you progress and come out on top in this wonderful life of yours. Eh, guys? What do you say? :downs:

EDIT: Where do you think I ran off to?
You must still be in kiddie school :]

Or some odd classes that don't do crap... or a slacker :]

Timo
October 30th, 2007, 04:06 AM
This thread is going nowhere. Terror(NO)More (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/member.php?u=447), you need to get a lot of progress done on a map before you come and present it here. If you don't, as you can see, threads with little or nothing to show don't get anywhere. You've got a sketch of the layout of the map, so keep working at it until you have something decent to show.