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bobbysoon
March 20th, 2008, 05:24 PM
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Winter Soldier Testimony (http://ivaw.org/)
When they're showing video clips and slides, you might want to minimize your browser. Some are grousome

Kornman00
March 20th, 2008, 06:53 PM
Damnit


You have the right to say & write (mostly) what you think
But there are some limits here. You can't call the President, Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, or other high government officials what article 88 of the UCMJ calls “contemptuous words” like “fascist,” “thief,” murderer,” “tyrant,” “fool,” and “gangster.”
that's the sole reason why I joined, to be able to call one of them a “fascist,” “thief,” murderer,” “tyrant,” “fool,” and\or “gangster” to their face :(

article 88? heh, irony

Thanks for the link, will definitely check this shit out later

bobbysoon
March 20th, 2008, 11:38 PM
Ironic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention), indeed. But alas, the GC > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_law) UJMC (optomistically speaking)

Kornman00
March 21st, 2008, 05:42 AM
Ironic (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third_Geneva_Convention), indeed.
Those are articles of geneva, not the punitive articles of the Uniform Code of "Military Justice" (UCMJ) :P. But that is still ironic all the same.


A good friend and I were once clearing a room, and the guy screamed "FUCK GENEVA!!!1" as he kicked the fucking door in. I wholeheartedly agreed with him. Geneva is a load of bullshit when combating the "war" on terror, where the "enemy" doesn't believe the same and is fueled by their faith to boot. We're still living the war models seen in the 1700 and 1800s were we'd just form a row and fire our weapons in wide open fields.
War is primitive; the moment you add human-made qualities to the way you fight it, you've lost.

nooBBooze
March 21st, 2008, 11:39 AM
if i want to see some scary shit, ill just watch some documentaries on US secret prisons. i really could build some houses with the bricks i shit while seeing those. :/

Btw vid didnt play for me :(

bobbysoon
March 21st, 2008, 03:11 PM
Geneva is a load of bullshit when combating the "war" on terror, where the "enemy" doesn't believe the same and is fueled by their faith to boot ... the moment you add human-made qualities to the way you fight it, you've lost.I think you've got that backwards. If you take away the human qualities, like if you see all Iraqis as "Hajis" and stop caring if they live or die, what do you become, and how is that winning?

An Iraqi journalist's perspective
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Btw vid didnt play for me :(
Upgrade Flash Player (http://www.adobe.com/shockwave/download/download.cgi?P1_Prod_Version=ShockwaveFlash%22%20t arget=%22_blank%22).