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    Modacity shooters' thread

    IF YOU HAVE ISSUES WITH FIREARMS THEN THIS ISN'T THE THREAD TO POST THEM IN, GO DO IT SOMEWHERE ELSE

    Since there seem to be at least a few of us with an interest in shooting, I figured maybe we should have a thread for the discussion of just that. I mean real shooting, not paintball or Airsoft. That stuff belongs either in an existing thread or somewhere else, just not in here. Basically, chat about guns, ammo, whatever. I give no fuck as long as it's related to shooting and isn't covered by another thread.

    Anyways, went to the range at West Ed for the second time. Last time I shot pretty well with the Ruger P85 in 9mm Para (first time with a handgun, first time also without a scope/optical sight of some sort). Tonight I tried out the USP (in 9mm para), the P85 again, and then it seems the instructors/safety officers there were so impressed they let me put a magazine through a Glock of some sort chambered for .40 S&W, same as the ones issued to the local police.

    I found the USP to be poorly-suited to me. I don't know if it was the pistol, myself, or a combination of the two, but although I landed most rounds in the target area, a lot didn't and even those within it were very spread out. The USP definitely has a different feel to the P85; this may have had something to do with it. The sights in particular seemed to give more potential for parallax error than those of the Ruger. Otherwise it handled nicely; reloading was easy (although actually loading the mag proved a struggle), and the controls were nice and easily accessible. However, the fact I shot so badly with it suggests that it's not the right pistol for me.

    Next came the P85, for the second time. It was the same gun I'd fired before, and it still had the worrying feel that it wanted to fall apart in my hand. I can't vouch for its age or the way it has been treated by previous visitors to the range, so that could be uncharacteristic of the type; either way, when it came to actually shooting, it was great. Just like last time, I shot the centre of my target right through, with only about ten percent of the rounds I fired landing outside the target circle (and not by much; none missed the paper as far as I can tell). The sights were easier to read and the recoil seemed a bit more manageable than the USP's. That said, the controls were again a bit of an issue. The push-forward design of the mag release meant I had to actually shift my grip on the gun considerably to release the magazine, and upon re-inserting it, the mag would catch halfway in, requiring me to force it rather aggresively. On one occasion this actually caused the slide to release and cock the weapon before I was prepared to do so, but of course it was under control at the time and did not go off. I'm a bit on the fence about this pistol. On the one hand, I love how it handles; on the other, I don't like the controls and reloading is a complete pain compared to the USP.

    After putting my box of some 60 rounds through the P85, one of the range employees offered me a Glock chambered in .40 S&W, with one loaded magazine; when they asked if I'd shot before I told them I'm an Australian soldier, so we had a pretty decent conversation going about the equipment we use. He told me this was the same pistol that the Edmonton Police are issued (probably the same ours are issued, too), and let me try it out for free. The first thing that struck me was the tiny size of the slide stop. I guess this wouldn't be a problem once someone was trained enough that muscle memory would kick in, but for me it seemed a bit of an odd design choice; the thing is fucking tiny. The recoil was considerably harder than both 9mm guns; my secco at Kapooka described me as having 'muppet arms', so I guess that didn't help, but it did kick quite hard. The sights were okay, but I personally prefer the P85's. The first round ripped the guys out of my target's centre (it had a pretty big hole in it before, but this doubled its size somehow), and as far as I can tell each subsequent round passed through the resultant gaping hole. It was pretty awesome, but I'm not sure if I'd consider it ideal for me. Naturally, more shoots would be required to decide, and I also have little chance of getting a handgun of any sort while still in Australia; however the P85 made a very good impression, to the point where it'd be my first consideration for a CCW if I was in any position to get one.

    No camera-PC link cable at the moment, so photos of the targets will have to wait; should be doing one last lot of shooting on Thursday before I go see the Oilers play (and hopefully fucking win, since only the Canadian juniors have delivered in that regard so far... even the Flames lost when we went to go see them).

    My little sister also did pretty well with the P85, she seemed to like it. At this point I'd certainly recommend trying one out, as they're very accurate and a pleasure to shoot once you get beyond the rather clumsy controls.
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    tl; dr, but I do love to shoot clay pigeons with my dad's 12 gauge. The guy knows how to make a good purchase; I'm gonna buy me the exact same shotgun once I have the money. Except I'm gonna make sure to clean and oil mine before I use it so it doesn't jam after every other shot. :P
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    my dad somehow managed to acquire a semiautomatic ak47 with an 80 round drum magazine and two 30 round banana magazines with 1600 rounds of 7.62 armor piercing ammunition. dont ask me how, but he did. we took it to the one shooting range in rhode island and i deicded that it would be fun to shoot it at one of those little metal flapper things designed for .22 that spin when you shoot them. so i did. yeah, it put a near perfectly round hole in the thing and blew it about 40 feet into the air and about 30 feet away from where i had originally placed it.

    then i blew up a cinder block with 12 gauge 00 buck. am i cool now?
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    I shoot people.
    Photographically.
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    I just had a nice bonding moment with my dad the other day. His father passed away almost 10 years ago, and he kept his dad's pistol. Has all the old bullets and everything but has never fired it. Dad also has a spare handgun we got recently (it's a long story, but our family sued a guy for some money, we won, he left threatening phone calls, we bought a gun).

    I asked my dad the other day if he'd be willing to teach me how to shoot (considering it would probably be beneficial to at least learn the basics for safety purposes). My dad made this face: and then was all and said he had been meaning to ask me anyway. So when the weather gets nice, TOTALLY going to the shooting range with my dad and uncle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Donut View Post
    my dad somehow managed to acquire a semiautomatic ak47 with an 80 round drum magazine and two 30 round banana magazines with 1600 rounds of 7.62 armor piercing ammunition. dont ask me how, but he did. we took it to the one shooting range in rhode island and i deicded that it would be fun to shoot it at one of those little metal flapper things designed for .22 that spin when you shoot them. so i did. yeah, it put a near perfectly round hole in the thing and blew it about 40 feet into the air and about 30 feet away from where i had originally placed it.

    then i blew up a cinder block with 12 gauge 00 buck. am i cool now?
    You'd be surprised how often I hear about people firing at those things with full-on rifles, not really thinking about the results.

    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowyn View Post
    I just had a nice bonding moment with my dad the other day. His father passed away almost 10 years ago, and he kept his dad's pistol. Has all the old bullets and everything but has never fired it. Dad also has a spare handgun we got recently (it's a long story, but our family sued a guy for some money, we won, he left threatening phone calls, we bought a gun).

    I asked my dad the other day if he'd be willing to teach me how to shoot (considering it would probably be beneficial to at least learn the basics for safety purposes). My dad made this face: and then was all and said he had been meaning to ask me anyway. So when the weather gets nice, TOTALLY going to the shooting range with my dad and uncle.
    The landscaper, I presume? Glad you managed to sue, he had it coming.

    A friend from High Prarie came along with me tonight, although a combination of picking an M9 and having absolutely no prior instruction in pistol shooting at all (not even any real indication from games or movies ), she didn't do quite so well, being used to shotguns and rifles. Once you get the basics down, though, it's pretty easy; you just need to find a gun that's right for you, and in my case that seems to be the P85 so far. As much as I love other pistols like the 1911, it almost seems like it was made for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rossmum View Post
    The landscaper, I presume? Glad you managed to sue, he had it coming.
    After we won the case, we got a few VERY threatening phone calls from him saying that we should "watch our backs." So we bought a gun. He won't be steppin round here.

    He owes us approximately $6,500 in damages, but won't pay up. We went to the magistrate to put a lien on anything he owns (like his truck) but for some reason we can't seem to get them to collect it. We think it might be a friend of a friend type deal, that's what we get for living in a small town.

    Quote Originally Posted by rossmum View Post
    Once you get the basics down, though, it's pretty easy; you just need to find a gun that's right for you, and in my case that seems to be the P85 so far.
    I expressed to my dad that I was concerned about the kick of a handgun. I don't have a lot of upper body strength, I'm not a strong girl, so I was worried I would end up like this.

    He didn't tell me what sort of gun we're talking (I have not seen either one we own), but he assured me that the kick would be minimal. I'm still a bit nervous. I'll have to ask him what kind of guns they are. I thought he said one was a .38 caliber, but he HATES revolvers and when I google it the only guns I can find are just that. *shrug*

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    I am a competitive Trap shooter. I shoot Beretta most of the time but every now and then I'll break out my old Ithaca. I am also an avid rifle marksmen and hunter. Me and my dad go to Montana once a year to hunt elk. A black powder muzzleloader is also my gun of choice for Iowa whitetail season.

    My dad is a gunsmith and gun collector so I grew up around this stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aerowyn View Post
    I expressed to my dad that I was concerned about the kick of a handgun. I don't have a lot of upper body strength, I'm not a strong girl, so I was worried I would end up like this.
    I literally have muppet arms. You probably have more upper-body strength than I do.

    9mm Para barely kicks. .40 S&W does, but not enough to cause pain or injury unless you aren't holding onto it at all. Not sure about .38 but it can't be too bad. Don't be a retard and get a Desert Eagle or S&W 500 or some other ridiculous gun and you should be fine, trust me.
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    A couple of years ago when my dad and I visited Arkansas it snowed about a foot and a half, ironically, so we made a snowman and shot a hole clean through its center with 20 gauge birdshot. It was really amazing, actually, it was just a perfect cylinder 20 centimeters in diameter straight through the middle ball of the snowman. The whole thing finally collapsed when we shot its head off.

    That year we also tried out some sort of rifle- I have no idea what type or caliber it was. I fired it at a target about 15 cm off the ground a good 50 to 100 meters away. The shockwave from the bullet cleared a perfectly straight path through the snow the whole way. It was awesome. I missed, tho.

    These days I'm pretty accurate with my dad's shotgun, but for some reason I can't hit shit with my uncle's shotgun. I think it's the way the sights are set up relative to the stock; I always seem to go way too high or way too low. With my dad's I've taken to leaving the shotgun down, having the launcher launch two skeet simultaneously after a random amount of time, and then taking them both out on the upswing. I love shooting skeet.
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