So how about my Neutrinos traveling faster than light

**Patrickssj6** · September 22nd, 2011 03:49 PM

http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/...78L4FH20110922

**{XG}Gijs007** · September 22nd, 2011 04:02 PM

Yea I just saw this, I wonder when faster then light travel will be possible

**ejburke** · September 22nd, 2011 04:09 PM

It has to be an error or some other phenomenon at work. I'm sure they didn't pump in the infinite amount of energy required to accelerate that particle to the speed of light and then an infinite amount more to push it beyond.

I used to like hearing stories about this kind of stuff. Then I studied the science and realized that it's never going to happen. The implications of an object appearing outside of its light cone are enormous and paradoxical.

**NullZero** · September 22nd, 2011 04:16 PM

If not down to miscalculations:

mind = blown

**Patrickssj6** · September 22nd, 2011 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by ejburke

I used to like hearing stories about this kind of stuff. Then I studied the science and realized that it's never going to happen.

You base your science on what humanity knows. Have you ever wondered why a dog cannot grasp the simplest concept, who says that humans are capable of understanding everything. Just an interesting thought :P

If this wasn't for CERN (and its thorough research) I wouldn't even bother to post.

**ejburke** · September 22nd, 2011 05:05 PM

The problem is not that we don't understand how to do FTL. The problem is that FTL travel of information is at odds with just about every physical concept that we DO understand. Causality, energy, space, time. Throwing FTL into the mix means discarding everything we know that has led us to this "discovery". And, oh, by the way: if distances in space become arbitrary, then distances in time become arbitrary as well. The big implication from FTL is not being able to go farther and faster, it's being able to go to some distant place, return before you left, and have a conversation with yourself.

I don't believe in that kind of timeline-splitting stuff, so I don't believe that we'll ever be able to travel faster than 1 Planck Length in 1 Planck Time -- traversing the smallest measurable unit of distance in the smallest measurable unit of time, which not so coincidentally is the speed of information (c).

**MXC** · September 22nd, 2011 05:09 PM

We really need to get out of this mentality of what we can't do. If there is even a sliver of the universe we don't understand, then there is room to advance.

Whatever happened to the whole philosophy of "Why not?"

**Patrickssj6** · September 22nd, 2011 05:15 PM

I don't want to debate about this with you since you clearly know a bit more than I do but you should not oversee the fact that you make conclusions based on just human invented terms.

Our world distracts us from thinking in terms of physics.