a lot of stupid posts in this thread. let me explain a few things to you clowns:
a) you can support gay rights or you can support chick-fil-a. they are mutually exclusive actions. you cannot pretend like you give a shit about gay rights and then go throw money at people who will pass a good percentage of the money you gave them to groups who not only dislike gay rights, but take every action in their ability to erode or prevent them. you are not just 'buying a meal', you are supporting bigotry.
b) anyone who invokes free speech here is a fucking idiot. free speech is exactly that, it doesn't cover paying off activists and lobby groups to influence policymaking in your favour, you fucking retards.
c) just because a company employs gay workers, or allows gay customers to purchase from them, it does not even begin to absolve their actions. you are fucking stupid if you even begin to disagree on this point, and should probably smash your head into something until you find yourself able to think rationally, like a proper human being. history is full of instances where people have co-opted their targets into working for them to work against themselves, and i mean full of them.
if you support chick-fil-a by buying products from them, your money is then being used not only to make bigots' lives more comfortable, but also to actively sabotage the rights of gay people you're all scrambling over yourselves to appear cool with. end of story. you cannot detach the two, no matter how hard you try. you are essentially proving through your actions that the rights of your fellow man are less valuable to you than fucking fast food chicken you could cook yourself if you weren't such a lazy slob. congratulations on being awful!
p.s. anyone who says marriage is/should be a union between one man and one woman, you are empirically wrong, marriage has meant a lot of things over the years and it is only within the most miniscule fraction of recent human history that homosexuality has been looked down upon, or marriage has been monogamous. you are also saying you value that specific definition of marriage over the thousands of others, including those which have been around thousands of years longer than christianity as a whole, let alone whatever denomination you follow. you, too, are horrible people. congrats.
Last edited by rossmum; August 4th, 2012 at 03:22 AM.
having a debate between people like you or selentic is like talking to a piece of concrete, i have also given my opinion multiple times in the past. the only person that seems to care the most here about this topic is pretty much you or sel.
you should also realize that some people here are not gay whatsoever, and actually dont give a shit about the issue, simply becuase it does not affect them. i dont have a problem with gay people, like said before, but a company should be able to do whatever the hell they want with money they have earned from people who have bought their product, and not have to be told what to with it from liberal, socialist scum.
the fact that you state your opinion as a fact also makes you look even more like an idiot, especially after you ask for my opinion again and have neglected actually either:
a. looked at my posts previously
b. saw them, glanced at them, but not actally read them
c. cant understand simple things people say
lastly, you go on to say that people who believe in marriage being between one man and one woman is completley wrong, which is another opinion from you (not a fact... i dont know if you'll be able to understand that though). you do realize right, that some people like the traditional form of marriage, and want to have nothing to with marriage/sexual relationships with the same sex, and that they would also like to have children naturally.
Christian tradition is a relatively new one.
Monogamy is a fairly recent thing, in some places polygamy still rules the roost and some cultures don't even have that, they mate with who ever and not worry about mutually intimate relationships.
Also just because someone believes in a man who could walk on water does not mean that is true.
I want to believe the tooth fairy comes in my room every night so I could check her orals but that doesn't mean she exists.
Protip: just because someone's opinion says something is true doesn't mean it actually is.
now here comes the opinion part: i think marriage is a pointless institution only worth what is put into it. it is nobody's business to say what it entails as a general thing, only what they want it to be for them. i personally do not need to go through archaic and expensive traditional ceremonies, legally binding contracts, and financially binding ones as well just to prove that i love someone. if you do, fine, but anyone who gets married simply because of social pressure is a moron and is setting themselves up for failure.
marriage has no inherent worth at all and trying to 'defend' some outdated and extremely narrow perception of what it is amounts to nothing other than bigotry. i'd love to see you argue against that, since you seem to think that dictating to others what they can and can't define something that is personal between them to be is even okay, let alone 'not an awfully shitty thing to do'.
e/ second para was based on me missing the beginning of the sentence, but it is still an incredibly stupid, irrelevant point and has no place in this argument?
Last edited by rossmum; August 4th, 2012 at 07:59 AM.
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