Spiker

[Dootuz]

Hey I was just looking at the bunige info and you guys are pertty much accret on the CMT spiker. If your doing any more wokring on the model go here.

http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/3/b/13ba0977-9968-4232-a19c-7fd285e8a97f/spikefinal.mov

for a 3d view of it. Might I suggest the lights on it for CMT. Other than that I love the CMT spiker.


:) Dootuz :)

[Hurrvish]

holy hell! whered you find that!?

[Dole]

^ Agreed. Are there any other videos on the page you found this on?

[Dootuz]

I found it on bunige.net. I dont have anything elles to do but homework.

http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?cid=9607

There's the full update for anyone who wants to read about the Spiker. It also has a picture on there. It looks like something from the manual lol

[Boba]

Good stuff, but there is still some holes in the chart.


http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/263/chartdz1.png

[ICY]

are the covanent sepratists the elites?

[HDoan]

since the elites and stuff left... Humans are humans, covenanrts are brutes and i think jakals and grunts, covenant separatists are hunters, elites, and i think grunts

[Pooky]

More vitally, the spikes don’t deform on impact if shot at close surfaces at an angle. Shoot head on, and they crumple, but angle that shot and you can deflect, with predictable accuracy, deadly, shredding rounds that basically lose none of their efficacy.

Something to see in the CMT spiker mb?

[Masterz1337]

Looks like we have a few tweeks to make to our spiker. The bounce off wlls thing is definatly do-able.

[Atty]

Halo 3 looks so awesome in that new rendering. <3 what happens during development.
holy hell! whered you find that!?http://www.bungie.net/News/TopStory.aspx?cid=9607

It's on the Bungie update.

[n00b1n8R]

yer, but who reads bungie -'_-'

[Atty]

People who matter. Explains why no one knew where it came from.

[JonathanMorris117]

nice

[megaxp]

awwwwwwwwww! god vid

[n00b1n8R]

i can't watch that video 0.o

i tried it in media player and it didn't work. i tried DLing the new quick time but it wants me to pay.

help?

[DaneO'Roo]

get a free version of quicktime

when u open the vid, press the arrow keys to move the "image"

[Atty]

It's not a video. It's just a 360&#176; look at the spiker, Bungie has shown other images this way. All you need is Quicktime.

[Chief117]

Looks like we have a few tweeks to make to our spiker. The bounce off wlls thing is definatly do-able.
AHA! SEE I TOLD YOU THAT IT SHOULD BOUNCE OFF WALLS!!!! Btw it's also gotta be 40 round per clip.


yer, but who reads bungie -'_-'
Actually, I check bungie's website every day. It's my homepage too.

[Dole]

It's my homepage too.
Unnecessary much?

[Phopojijo]

i can't watch that video 0.o

i tried it in media player and it didn't work. i tried DLing the new quick time but it wants me to pay.

help?They are just advertising Quicktime Pro.

Quicktime Free: Play movies
Quicktime Pro: *Make* movies, and save streaming movies from the internet.

I use QTPro for rendered videos for use in compositing since its about the only program that merges images together, accepts Targas, and keeps alpha channels.

[Edward Elrich]

I would assume that the bouncing off walls thing is for SP only? (Masterz said it doesn't work over the netcode right...)

[Pooky]

Why wouldn't it work over the netcode right, it's no different than Needles bouncing off walls

[ImSpartacus]

yeah, i think the bouncing would work, and the clip needs to be changed, maybe the damage also.

[TIA Gangsta]

Also remember the fact about short bursts being pretty accurate and holding down the fire button spreads alot (more than SMG, but I think your current Spiker spread is good enough).
At the moment, the spread is the same no matter how you press the fire button.

[AAA]

Looks like we have a few tweeks to make to our spiker. The bounce off wlls thing is definatly do-able.

So, we get an update on spiker sometime soon?:)

[Masterz1337]

Not mcuh to show about it. I can say it;s pretty usefull. And pretty deadly. I've had rooms be a crossfire of needles when me and a brute engage in combat in narrow places.

[AAA]

Not mcuh to show about it. I can say it;s pretty usefull. And pretty deadly. I've had rooms be a crossfire of needles when me and a brute engage in combat in narrow places.

So, you remodeled your spikker to look a tad bit more like that 3D image we got to mess around with? and are you making to where it's JUST like the needler?; can bounce off of things.

[Pooky]

The spiker looks fine the way it is now, the ROF should probably be a tiny bit higher though, the clip smaller and the shots more powerful.

[Dootuz]

It looks to me like the current CMT spiker needs to make the blades just like 3% more outward so insted of being like this
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to be like this
/ \ not that much slant but just a little more. and a light in the front and side.

[stalker 4589]

i dont like the blood on the spiker. thats the only thing about cmts that was bad

[Dole]

I liked it... :(

The only thing that I didn't like about CMT's Spiker was the fact that a little 2" x 1" cigarette box fitted into the top of the gun was the source of sixty 6" spikes, when the magazine was apparently the large drum clipped right underneath it.

Edit: Did the Spiker have TP firing animations like the Halo 2 Carbine or Brute Shot (the barrel blowback)? Because that dual-barrel mechanism looks like it's supposed to reciprocate with every round volleyed.

[AAA]

i dont like the blood on the spiker. thats the only thing about cmts that was bad

IMO That was the only thing that made it look cool

[itszutak]

I actually didn't like it, either. :/

[n00b1n8R]

i don't like the way the MC holds it.

why is he emo'ing his hand with the blades >.>

proper holding positions on the final plz.

[I_Am_Error117]

why is he emo'ing his hand with the blades >.>


:lol: Ahhh good stuff

[Masterz1337]

H1 uses block hands, so thers not much we can do about the "emo" ness of it.

[Hotrod]

I don't mind the blood all that much, but like Dole said, the magazine looks too small to fit all the projectiles in it, you should probably work on that.

[AAA]

I don't mind the blood all that much, but like Dole said, the magazine looks too small to fit all the projectiles in it, you should probably work on that.

Yeah, it's very tiny...like Dole's Di--:X jp, jp.

But, yeah. The spiker isn't that small >.<!!! so it should be wider, the melee should be like a slash....but enough about imperfections...that cigar holder is pretty awkward lookin'

[Dole]

You want my spike? You can't handle my spike! :mad:

[Pooky]

H1 uses block hands, so thers not much we can do about the "emo" ness of it.

You could fix the third person animations...

[Masterz1337]

That would require all the 3p anims to be redone, to have his hand fit in under the blade. There's no real place to put his block hand.

[Dole]

Wasn't the updated HDMC getting the block hands revised?

[AAA]

Wasn't the updated HDMC getting the block hands revised?

Yeah, if you do that...would it be possible to make it fit? that's if we even want it. personally, I don't mind where his hand is located on the gun, as long as it's revised and resembles the spiker model a little more.......btw, will you be adding those 2 blue gun barrel holes? they look pretty cool...

[ImSpartacus]

how are those dual barrels supposed to work anyway? does it alternate between barrels?

but i agree, the clip is tiny and the gun itself a little small, but i think i can live with both, just concentrate on future projects. switch the clip size and the bouncing needle thing and be done with it.

once we know for sure how big the clip is you can change it.

[Pooky]

That would require all the 3p anims to be redone, to have his hand fit in under the blade. There's no real place to put his block hand.


Instead of wasting your time with that, you could have him rest his hand on top of the gun. The Spiker third person animations are just shameful though and you can't deny it, it desperately needs a third person melee to match the first person one...

[AAA]

Yeah, it's very tiny...like Dole's Di--:X jp, jp.

But, yeah. The spiker isn't that small >.<!!! so it should be wider, the melee should be like a slash....but enough about imperfections...that cigar holder is pretty awkward lookin'

That melee would suffice.