No new Half life in 2010

[343guiltymc]

http://hellforge.gameriot.com/blogs/Hellforge/Valve-No-New-Half-Life-in-2010
So, I guess this means they are working on Half life 3 now?

[arbiter901]

I was looking forward to EP3 news On E3 :smith:

[Limited]

Well, Valve has a history of saying nothing, then producing something thats freaking amazing out of the blue. So ya never know :D

[Timo]

meh, my enthusiam for ep3 ran out a long time ago.

[legionaire45]

I blame the Left 4 Dead series.

[AAA]

meh, my enthusiam for ep3 ran out a long time ago.

Mine too.

Nice to hear news, though. Doesn't leave us in the dark with floating assumptions.

[ultama121]

What are you talking about.


Black Mesa is coming out this year. http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-shobon.gif

[343guiltymc]

What are you talking about.


Black Mesa is coming out this year. http://sae.tweek.us/static/images/emoticons/emot-shobon.gif
Is that a firm release date, or one subject to change? I've noticed the lack of media for the mod recently.

[legionaire45]

Is that a firm release date, or one subject to change? I've noticed the lack of media for the mod recently.
They've moved over to Twitter and their own wiki (http://wiki.blackmesasource.com/index.php/Main_Page) for news updates.

[English Mobster]

Fucking Left4Dead.
Yes, it was a fun game.
No, you do not need to make a Left4Dead 3.

Let's see here, it takes them FUCKING FOREVER to make something new for Half-Life, and it took them a DECADE to make TF2, and then L4D2 comes out almost right after L4D1 came out.
Why, Valve, why? Focus your energies on your games which have a MUCH bigger fanbase than L4D.
TF2 is considered one of the best class-based shooters of all time (admittedly, this isn't such a big deal because of all the extra goodies Valve has been giving us over the years).
HL2 (and HL1) are considered one of the best games of all time.
L4D is not.
Get your priorities straight.

[rossmum]

jesus christ you kids need to learn some fucking patience. just because everyone is being such a whiny bitch about it, i hope it takes them another three or four years.

[Warsaw]

Fucking Left4Dead.
Yes, it was a fun game.
No, you do not need to make a Left4Dead 3.

Let's see here, it takes them FUCKING FOREVER to make something new for Half-Life, and it took them a DECADE to make TF2, and then L4D2 comes out almost right after L4D1 came out.
Why, Valve, why? Focus your energies on your games which have a MUCH bigger fanbase than L4D.
TF2 is considered one of the best class-based shooters of all time (admittedly, this isn't such a big deal because of all the extra goodies Valve has been giving us over the years).
HL2 (and HL1) are considered one of the best games of all time.
L4D is not.
Get your priorities straight.

Maybe the developers at VALVe like to dabble in things besides decade-old titles? Take Bungie for instance...they've been working on Halo for about 12 years...TWELVE FUCKING YEARS. And they are finally making their last Halo title, probably because they want to do something new. Left 4 Dead is new. VALVe wants to spend time expanding that game, they deserve it. Half-Life may have a bigger fan-base, but as long as they continue to net a profit, they can do as they please.

[Huero]

Fucking Left4Dead.
Yes, it was a fun game.
No, you do not need to make a Left4Dead 3.

Let's see here, it takes them FUCKING FOREVER to make something new for Half-Life, and it took them a DECADE to make TF2, and then L4D2 comes out almost right after L4D1 came out.
Why, Valve, why? Focus your energies on your games which have a MUCH bigger fanbase than L4D.
TF2 is considered one of the best class-based shooters of all time (admittedly, this isn't such a big deal because of all the extra goodies Valve has been giving us over the years).
HL2 (and HL1) are considered one of the best games of all time.
L4D is not.
Get your priorities straight.
left 4 dead is actually ridiculously popular and has made them a lot of money
you're more likely to see left 4 dead 3 released than half-life 3
half-life may be considered one of the best games ever but it's still a niche
left 4 dead has found popularity amongst all groups of teens, similar to halo or call of duty
tl;dr they have their priorities straight you're just bitching

[Rook]

Left 4 Dead 2 is the best valve game aside from the ragers you get in game, with TF2 close behind. I'm guessing their goal is work on multiplayer content more people would buy instead of spending efforts on single player content. I did like the HL2 series but it is SP, you can't play it more than once and not get sick.

[Warsaw]

Well, I don't know that I'd agree with that assessment. I don't own a single L4D game because I personally just don't like it. I'd gladly play single player oriented games over and over again if they are good, and I know that the size of the demographic that likes single player is quite sizable. I just think VALVe is taking a break from Half-Life and trying to establish itself as a studio that makes great games, not just "the studio that brought you Half-Life."

[Heathen]

So I am playing Half Life for the first time and SHIT this game is hard.

Marines at the beginning pwn me.

Im slipping on slime, tripping tripwires, and getting shot by turrets non stop.

ANd thist stupid green thing is killing me in the silo constantly.

[rossmum]

yeah, hl1 is ridiculous. that said, i miss the days where games didn't hold your fucking hand all the way and make you akin to the destroyer in terms of ease in killing enemies

[ejburke]

Anybody ever wonder how they were planning on getting Gordon from White Forest to the Arctic in the seamless style of a Half-Life game?

Please no shortcut through Xen.

[StankBacon]

at the end of ep2 they were planning on using a helicopter weren't they?

we don't know the distance between the 2 locations so who knows.

[Dwood]

As far as i've seen, Valve likes its community mods. I think they're waiting on Black Mesa to come out before anyone says anything at all...

That said, when Valve does come out with HL: 3 or Hl 2: ep 3, it's going to be on a brand new engine. Think about it, guys. L4D2 may be a game but I think it's closer to the engineers at Valve experimenting and working with gameplay and new physics elements for Half Life 3 or ep 3 than Valve would let on.

My 2 cents worth

[Captain Pakundo]

Portal 2?

[ejburke]

at the end of ep2 they were planning on using a helicopter weren't they?

we don't know the distance between the 2 locations so who knows.Yeah, but the thing about the Half-Life series is that the player has never lost continuity with a conscious Gordon Freeman. So, we'd have to sit through a 3000 mile chopper ride from eastern Europe to the Arctic circle. Longer if they have to stop for gas.

Maybe Gordon takes a nap during the trip, but they can't just start the game with Gordon waking up from a nap. They have to pick up exactly where they left off and have the player maneuver him to his nap. Shouldn't be hard. The guy hasn't slept since HL2 started.

Hey, it was Valve's decision to make everything contiguous. I don't think it really makes the game better, but it's their thing. They can't abandon it now.

All I know is that Gordon has a steel bladder. And I'm starting to suspect that he's anorexic. Eat something, fella!

[Limited]

Yeah, but the thing about the Half-Life series is that the player has never lost continuity with a conscious Gordon Freeman. So, we'd have to sit through a 3000 mile chopper ride from eastern Europe to the Arctic circle. Longer if they have to stop for gas.

Maybe Gordon takes a nap during the trip, but they can't just start the game with Gordon waking up from a nap. They have to pick up exactly where they left off and have the player maneuver him to his nap. Shouldn't be hard. The guy hasn't slept since HL2 started.
I'm gonna guess he hits his head whilst climbing into the helicopter. Then he'll wake up in the arctic, problem solved! :D

[Ganon]

Left 4 Dead 2 is the best valve game aside from the ragers you get in game, with TF2 close behind. I'm guessing their goal is work on multiplayer content more people would buy instead of spending efforts on single player content. I did like the HL2 series but it is SP, you can't play it more than once and not get sick.

ive played through hl2 dozens of times but i agree with this're post. the l4d franchise definately doesn't appeal to everyone though.

[Higuy]

I played L4D1 and imo it just sucked.. however I'm not a fan of zombie games really, but all it seemed was run + shoot lots of zombies out of the blue that are the same everytime.. sometimes i'd get stuck in a corner surrounded by hundreds of fucking zombies and it really just didn't seem like fun at all. I played l4d2, just to find it's the same exact thing. They never really seemed to have gameplay imo, or at least not like any of the other Valve games.

I'll probably get flamed for saying it, but its exactly what I've always thought of the game.

I really want to play a Portal 2 or HL2:Ep3. Both would be so awesome. And don't they both tie into each some how? I remeber reading somewhere about the cargo ship that was talked about in ep2 had the portal tech on it, but idk. Guess I'll have to wait and see, I should probably replay the series as well becuase its extremely fun.

[Bastinka]

Story is great, gameplay is horrid. Always been the same ever since HL1. If they could at least just make walking more then a slight screen wiggle, it might add more effect to it seeing as in every Source game you glide along the floor at pretty high speeds without moving your gun too much.

[Huero]

So I am playing Half Life for the first time and SHIT this game is hard.

Marines at the beginning pwn me.

Im slipping on slime, tripping tripwires, and getting shot by turrets non stop.

ANd thist stupid green thing is killing me in the silo constantly.

see that's hilarious as the game is easy
oddly however i could never figure out the giant baby

[flibitijibibo]

List o' shit to do:
- Engie Update
- L4D3
- HL2:E3

If it were me? Engie Update with HL2:E3, and scratch L4D3 off the fucking list. 1 and 2 are fine.

[Timo]

TF3 is scheduled for release this year (it comes with an engie update).

[Donut]

So I am playing Half Life for the first time and SHIT this game is hard.

Marines at the beginning pwn me.

Im slipping on slime, tripping tripwires, and getting shot by turrets non stop.

ANd thist stupid green thing is killing me in the silo constantly.
the thing with the big claws? crouch walk so it doesnt hear you, and throw a grenade to divert its attention elsewhere if its in your way. the only reason i knew what to do was because that one guy is like "shh it hears you"

game is hard as hell. i love it
E: l4d does attract a pretty big crowd though. its probably because of the whole zombie thing. i know these 3 girls who dont play any other games but l4d. and i only mention that theyre girls because it stresses the point that the game attracts a wide audience. i personally dont like it, but apparently a lot of people do.

[Heathen]

see that's hilarious as the game is easy
oddly however i could never figure out the giant baby

also playin on hard.

[Bodzilla]

It's because of the fat jokes isn't it.
i lol'd.

WAAAAAAA.
i'm legitimately upset though, i fucking love half life :(

[rossmum]

so do i but seriously be patient holy fuck

we, as halo fans, know all too well what happens when a dev rushes to churn out sequels to a bestseller. they may be bestsellers too, but we feel a sinking feeling as we play them. rushing does nobody any good.

[Bodzilla]

i'm not yelling at valve and crying valve time and all that other nonsense, i'm just disappointed :(

[n00b1n8R]

ANd thist stupid green thing is killing me in the silo constantly.
I found that section easy as fuck when I played through HL1 last summer :downs:

Anybody ever wonder how they were planning on getting Gordon from White Forest to the Arctic in the seamless style of a Half-Life game?

Please no shortcut through Xen.
HL2 has always been in Europe so it's not that far.
Besides which, the ends of HL2-ep1 and ep1-ep2 weren't totally seamless. It could just pick up in the helecopter zooming over a skybox-generated area (and bigger maps would no doubt be possible in the ep3 engine vOv).

[Heathen]

yeh, crouching helps a lot.

[rossmum]

I found that section easy as fuck when I played through HL1 last summer :downs:

HL2 has always been in Europe so it's not that far.
Besides which, the ends of HL2-ep1 and ep1-ep2 weren't totally seamless. It could just pick up in the helecopter zooming over a skybox-generated area (and bigger maps would no doubt be possible in the ep3 engine vOv).
the ukraine and caucasus ranges are a few hours' flight by jet, let alone an mi-8 of questionable repair

[n00b1n8R]

So it jumps forward a bit until something interesting happpens and the chopper crashes.

so what vOv
ep1 started after some LOL VORTIGAUNTS and odd teleportation (as Alyx says, it's been a few hours since the citadel exploded) and Ep2 started after the train had crashed down a bridge (which you hadn't gotten onto by the time the citadel SPOILERD wait like anyone cares anymore, exploded~).

[Rob Oplawar]

so do i but seriously be patient holy fuck

we, as halo fans, know all too well what happens when a dev rushes to churn out sequels to a bestseller. they may be bestsellers too, but we feel a sinking feeling as we play them. rushing does nobody any good.

Yeah, but, there's a difference between rushing a project out and actually spending dev time on it instead of developing and releasing three whole games between episodes.

Apparently they're great games (I haven't played them- don't yell at me, I hardly play any games anymore) and apparently valve is having sensible business practice and apparently the half life series isn't nearly as popular yadda yadda.

It's not about what's sensible and it's not about what other people want, it's about what I want! I want my episode 3! :gonk:

Ironic bitching aside, I would like to point out that by promising episodic releases and then going on to do other things with no intention of even finishing episode 3 in the near future, valve really seems to be saying "we don't care" to the fans of the series that made their name.

They're making more people happy with their more popular games, and they have every right to do whatever they want with their own IPs, but I still find it somewhat insulting. They started something that a lot of people love, but then decided to leave those people hanging so they could make other people happy. It's just... rude.

e: WHINE BITCH MOAN!

[rossmum]

the thing is that l4d and l4d2 introduced all kinds of cool shit, so the delay is worth it if even some of that tech makes it into ep 3. the other thing is that those two were done by turtle rock, it's just that valve owns them now. or something. i dunno, that's what i heard anyway

[Rob Oplawar]

Yeah in all fairness, it seems like the way this typically works is a certain core team within valve works on half life, or at least is currently working on hl2ep3, and that the new games were/are done by different teams. The only trouble is that doesn't really fit with the comment that there are no near-future plans for episode 3... does that mean they really want to blow us away with their tech and content and therefore need a lot more time, or does that mean the core team actually was reassigned for the time being?

I demand transparency in government game development! :hurf:

I have a conspiracy theory for you: Valve never actually had the story planned out and have been making it up as they go, and now they can't figure out how to resolve the craziness what with the gman and the slug things and aperture science and the borealis.

You know, I expected a Portal sequel as well... crazier conspiracy theory: they're working on further integrating the Portal and Half Life universes.

Or, the craziest theory of all: they've taken a break from the Half Life series to explore other games, broaden their consumer base, and try new things instead of going the Bungie route...

e: To clarify the irony of my statement, taking into account the Halo: Reach thread:
Bungie: Halo 1 came out in 2001. It's 2010, move on to new things!
Valve: Half Life 1 came out in 1998. It's 2010, keep expanding your story!

ee: But to be serious, the difference is, you see, that Bungie wrapped up their main storyline and now they're mucking about with the side-quests, while Valve left us with countless questions a fucking cliffhanger and refuses to tie it up any time soon.

[n00b1n8R]

Episodic games are supposed to be released faster than regular games.
As far as Valve Time goes, they're right on schedule. vOv

[Sever]

I think that VALVe TIMe increases exponentially as it goes, starting a new spur each time there's a new project (ex: If VALVe intended to make a L4D3 and intended for an early winter release next year, it would take at least 6 more months, putting its release at early fall 2011, and L4D4 would take another 6 to 12 additional months, putting its earliest release at early winter 2013). With this understanding of VALVe TIMe, we can predict that HL3 will be indefinitely postponed, sadly.

[sdavis117]

Left 4 Dead seems to be immune from larger amounts of VALVe TIMe. I mean L4D2 was released on schedule, which was just a year after L4D1.

[Dwood]

At least we have come to this conclusion: Valve is not made up solely of people from Bungie or Blizzard.