Call of Dooty: Modern Warfare 3

[Spartan094]

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Oh lord the shit will continue. You probably have heard or read that there's been leaks and today they released a teaser.
http://kotaku.com/5801226/the-modern-warfare-3-files-exclusive-first-details-on-the-biggest-game-of-2011

Click on images to go to other links and yadada

I seriously miss CoD 4 and how it played out. Keep it civil and I will update this post with every official video for our hearts desire to rage about, defend, or stay neutral.

[TeeKup]

New devs (Raven Software and Sledgehammer). Mean new opportunities for improving what made MW2 garbage. Black Ops had a few steps in the right direction but still fell short. Hopefully MW3 COULD be better. Maybe I'm being naive and optimistic. I'll wait a long while before I even rent this, just to see what everyone says.

[Donut]

watch forehead shooting not get fixed, because it wont. that would involve new animations, and we all know activision cant afford that.

[Ifafudafi]

I thought America being invaded was the last game's super-awesome premise

I'll withhold judgement until I see some gameplay vids but if there's still next to nothing new after 4 years, well, yeah

[hobojoe]

I thought America being invaded was the last game's super-awesome premise

I'll withhold judgement until I see some gameplay vids but if there's still next to nothing new after 4 years, well, yeah
^
This

[Amit]

LEEKS: http://kotaku.com/5801353/

If there is any truth to the locations mentioned in the leaks, it looks like MW2 is trying to rip off BF3's World War 3 scenario.

In MW2 is was just Russia and USA. Of course it was Makarov's plan to destabilize the world, but this is quite a jump.

Edit: MASSIVE LEEKS: http://kotaku.com/5801345/where-youll-go-how-youll-kill-and-who-will-die-in-modern-warfare-3

[EagerYoungSpaceCadet]

Meanwhile, at Activision:
JoYWdHe4tQ4

[TeeKup]

Well the guns look pretty.

[TVTyrant]

Meanwhile, at Activision:
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lol

[PlasbianX]

There's been other teasers released too. There's a European one and one other.

[Limited]

London, England
Paris, France
Prague, Czech Republic
A castle in the Czech mountains

Very looking forward to playing in those locations.

[Pooky]

MW2 was my biggest disappointment ever in gaming. I have a hard time getting excited about this after how completely shite the last 3 CoD games have been.

Developed by Raven, though? Well, given Raven's history, it'll be totally awesome on release day until they patch it a few times and ruin everything.

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[Kornman00]

Modern Warfare? They should have renamed it Fantasy Warfare and then they could have had a reason to develop yet another two games, other than just because they can. Those pesky Russians, always distracting us. They should have took their own advice and went with "no Russian". I bet MW4 will be about how China comes in and takes over both countries because they're so taxed after fighting each other.

Would be cool if they just tried to stop shitting a game out every year and actually tried to provide some newer functionality like, oh how about, online campaign? Splitscreen? Loads of configurable game options like that seen in a Halo (a la variants) and other games? As far as I know, none of these things have been addressed since they last polished the turd known as MW2. Of course, their engine is still just based on id Tech 3 crap, so that alone should show you how long they hold on to no changing.

So, will this MW feature dedicated servers? I assume they'll just go the same route of BLOPS and do some money making scheme with gameservers.com.

[Ifafudafi]

Oh boy look at all this hate

Keep in mind that while they might be obvious AV cash-grabs, the post-MW1 CoDs aren't that bad in and of themselves. You don't get that large a playerbase across all platforms if your game is shite. Sure, MW2's campaign was a complete mess, but it was still tighter, more polished, and more entertaining than quite a bit of the tripe out there. WaW did one of the most successful takes on the Pacific Theater out there, and Black Ops actually tries to tell a worthwhile story while retaining the superbly polished gameplay. For all the derision they get as AV's lap-dog, Treyarch, at least to me, really does put their heart into the games they make. I can't look at the entire Zombies thing in Black Ops and believe that was the product of a few disinterested in-for-profit guys.

And as much as everybody loves to complain about it, MP can still be fun as hell, especially when played with friends, not unlike another popular online shooter (http://www.modacity.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?116-Halo-Reach). They've really needed public betas in the past two games to iron out the glitches and imbalances before release, of course, and I'm still not fond of how killstreaks have been expanded upon, but try playing some of the other generic ass-shit out there (no points for naming Battlefield) and then tell me CoD is the worst of it.

CoD's problem isn't quality; don't try and kid youself that the games are terrible, because they really aren't. Go try out Homefront and you'll see what I mean. Their problem is refusal to change, which is especially ironic considering that the huge MP overhaul and move to the modern era in CoD4 is what kicked the franchise into overdrive in the first place. (IW had to do that in secret, even.) Since right know we know precisely dick about MW3, we'll have to see whether zombieIW+Raven+New guys+AV realize this, or if they're just going to hold on to the same cards. Standards of quality constantly improve, and while CoD4 may have shot the bar up high, they can only sit there for so long before somebody else takes the lead again.

[Kornman00]

Um, their refusal to change kind of carries over into their "quality" dept.

Quality campaign experience? Only if you like playing by yourself
Quality dedicated multiplayer experience? Only if you like BLOPS and wish to roll with a service from GS.com or something free from Treyarch.

[Donut]

im in pretty much complete agreement with you ifaf, but the problem is that none of those little problems that make cod so fucking irritating to play ever get fixed. forehead shooting, reload canceling, balancing issues like the killstreaks, shotguns for some reason being less accurate when you aim down sight, and other stuff like that thats been around for a while. theyre all relatively small issues compared to the rest of the game, but its the fact that they NEVER GET FIXED. blackops did try to fix some balancing issues with sniper rifles and quickscoping, but that was ultimately a mess. i have to say though, blackops did try to fix the killstreak system, and it was relatively successful in that regard. if this custom killstreak thing is here to stay, the way blackops did it where there arnt any game ending streaks, or streaks that build on other streaks is probably the best way to go. also taking out stopping power was such a god damn glorious move.

its the forehead shooting though. iv died so many times because of that, its unbelievable. all it takes is a couple new animations to fix it, but they refuse to fix it.

[Pooky]

Oh boy look at all this hate

Keep in mind that while they might be obvious AV cash-grabs, the post-MW1 CoDs aren't that bad in and of themselves. You don't get that large a playerbase across all platforms if your game is shite. Sure, MW2's campaign was a complete mess, but it was still tighter, more polished, and more entertaining than quite a bit of the tripe out there. WaW did one of the most successful takes on the Pacific Theater out there, and Black Ops actually tries to tell a worthwhile story while retaining the superbly polished gameplay. For all the derision they get as AV's lap-dog, Treyarch, at least to me, really does put their heart into the games they make. I can't look at the entire Zombies thing in Black Ops and believe that was the product of a few disinterested in-for-profit guys.

And as much as everybody loves to complain about it, MP can still be fun as hell, especially when played with friends, not unlike another popular online shooter (http://www.modacity.net/forums/forumdisplay.php?116-Halo-Reach). They've really needed public betas in the past two games to iron out the glitches and imbalances before release, of course, and I'm still not fond of how killstreaks have been expanded upon, but try playing some of the other generic ass-shit out there (no points for naming Battlefield) and then tell me CoD is the worst of it.

CoD's problem isn't quality; don't try and kid youself that the games are terrible, because they really aren't. Go try out Homefront and you'll see what I mean. Their problem is refusal to change, which is especially ironic considering that the huge MP overhaul and move to the modern era in CoD4 is what kicked the franchise into overdrive in the first place. (IW had to do that in secret, even.) Since right know we know precisely dick about MW3, we'll have to see whether zombieIW+Raven+New guys+AV realize this, or if they're just going to hold on to the same cards. Standards of quality constantly improve, and while CoD4 may have shot the bar up high, they can only sit there for so long before somebody else takes the lead again.

First off, I don't give a flying shit about Call of Duty single player.

The multiplayer design in all CoD games post Modern Warfare is just terrible. Bad spawning, shitty maps, retarded sandbox balance, overpowered killstreaks. The only reason those games get so many players is because any idiot can pick it up and get loads of kills by herp derping around with a broken class setup.

Also, what Donut said. Every Call of Duty multiplayer I can remember has had those same niggling little issues, and they never seem to get addressed.

[MXC]

A tacti-cooled AK-47.


Why.

[paladin]

looks promising 10/10

[TVTyrant]

looks promising 10/10
+ rep owai

[Spartan094]

looks promising 10/10
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[Amit]

I forgot how Paladin worshiped these games. Production values look awesome, again. I never had a real problem with SP with COD games, other than Shepard's confusing as fuck betrayal in MW2. It's mainly the MP stuff post-COD4 that just doesn't make sense for a balanced, cheat-free, and fun game. Treyarch tried and improved, but every time they touch the engine, it instantly cuts a large chunk of FPS out. I don't know why when Infinity Ward did an excellent job of optimizing MW2.

[ODX]

So far it is looking really nice, and seems like it's turning into an even bigger MW2 on steroids. I admit that game really was fun and looked very pretty at times, and seeing as the game is being cooperatively-made by 3 studios...there's no telling what MW3 will bring to the table.

I'm actually a bit fearful for BF3 to be honest.

[TeeKup]

I like how they made all the guns generic black....

[Amit]

Well it is just early views of what the guns will look like. I'm sure they'll do the now traditional COD customization colours. I'm not fearing for BF3 in any way vs this game. COD is now run by Bobby Kotick. If he wants more explosions, proper design takes a side seat. This game looks to have even more in your face action than MW2 or even Black Ops.

[TVTyrant]

Well it is just early views of what the guns will look like. I'm sure they'll do the now traditional COD customization colours. I'm not fearing for BF3 in any way vs this game. COD is now run by Bobby Kotick. If he wants more explosions, proper design takes a side seat. This game looks to have even more in your face action than MW2 or even Black Ops.
Which is what I hated about those games. Sometimes I want to feel sneaky and snipe people. Black Ops was awful because the best way to snipe was the M14 with ACOG and forward grip. Everything in that game devolved to Enfields and spraying.

[Pooky]

Which is what I hated about those games. Sometimes I want to feel sneaky and snipe people.

Oh you mean like you could in CoD 4, when there were good maps and balanced weapons?

Man those were the days.

[Nero]

You guys are all talking about the green sneak peak trailer?

[Rainbow Dash]

oh s1ck another l33t inst4llm3nt in the shittiest and most creativity lacking game franchise in existance.

[Rook]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUKWM9iUeS4

[Donut]

what did i just watch :gonk:

[Cortexian]

I like how they made all the guns generic black....
As opposed to generic pink?

Do you just want more guns with cosmetic camo? Because it would be more realistic if they just used all black, I don't know of any military that issues colored firearms with the exception of the Canadian Forces. Our latest C7A2's/A3's come with OD green stocks, grips, scopes, etc... Mostly all the colored stuff is reserved for special forces and/or PMC's.

[Spartan094]

But taking a Model 1887 and turning it into a generic black gun with no wood shouldn't earn the 1887 name to it. More like a Model 2016.

But of course its to make it "lighter" since wood will weigh you down. Take a look at the AK47 since it stopped using wood as a grip and stock after MW1. But of course weight in a video game can't mimic real life and yadada

[TeeKup]

Early build or not, I see it as a lack of EFFORT to give each gun it's own identity. Not everyone weapon in MW/MW2/BlOps looked exactky the same skin wise. Yes they were generic gun colors and skins but they all weren't the same matte black as everything else.

That's just boring and stupid, and for gods sake this is fucking call of duty, realism and referencing really isn't and has not been it's forte.

EDIT: And for the record, I fucking hate pink. I've always prefered the Digital skins in every CoD since CoD 4.


EDIT 2:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUKWM9iUeS4

Hardscoping faggot? You mean what actual SNIPING IS!? Jesus to fuck this is why I stopped playing this horrible game. Quickscoping can go burn in hell.

[Amit]

EDIT: And for the record, I fucking hate pink. I've always prefered the Digital skins in every CoD since CoD 4.

This to the fucking max. I love the Digital ACU/Urban camo schemes. They are the best hands down. Fuck the ugly tiger colours.

[TeeKup]

I refused to use Stopping Power on my R700 in CoD4 so after a while of my majority kills being headshots, I used it with Blue Tiger. I got accused often of boosting to get that skin, mainly because NO ONE used the R700. Regardless, I proved them wrong in subsequent matches, when they lost horribly. Of course I attribute most of my wins due to me playing with Friedmetroid, Sever, Tobi Sings and some other cool people.

If it wasn't still infested with pro-tards running around with the M40 acog bullshit I'd probably still be playing. But we know that's not going to change.

[Mr Buckshot]

Sounds pretty cool, just need to know if I get my dedicated servers or not.

I loved Cod4.

For MW2, I simply borrowed the console version, played the SP once and a few rounds of spec ops split screen, and I will admit, they were done really well, credit to IW for that. The plot was full of nonsensical holes, sure, but those cinematic scripted moments like the escape from the gulag and Soap pulling the knife out of his chest were really awesome and that's what made the SP so fun. But the multiplayer was bad - and it wasn't just because of the lack of dedi servers for PC. I was playing on a console where that fact wasn't an issue, and the balance with the guns was horrible (overpowered dual G18s kept getting abused from my experience). Frankly, keeping dedi servers in the PC version wouldn't really have helped that much since the gameplay itself was crap.

Black Ops did a passable job of correcting what went wrong in MW2, but thus far Treyarch has failed to deliver on their mod tools promise (supposedly coming out this month - it's already the middle of the month plus they did release paid DLC so I doubt it). The SP was a step forward in plot, but in level design it fell a bit short (stupid infinite respawns).

Now as for what I've seen in the previews, the SP looks very promising, I am definitely interested. I'm also glad they finally decided to give us a "good Russian" playable character, as I liked the Russian campaigns most in COD1 and COD2. But if they're going to screw with PC multiplayer, then it's simply a "borrow the console version temporarily" experience for me, instead of "buy the game and clock in 150+ hours" as I did with Cod4 and Black Ops.

[sevlag]

its going to be mediocre with shitty MP and its going to get a title update day one which will make every retard on XBL think activision actually cares about the players when they don't

TL;DR

its going to suck

[paladin]

If you come to the point where your complaining about the gun color, you are just knit picking and being an up-tight asshole. If you actually played MW2 and Blackops and didn't just say how bad it was, you'd see that they weren't horrible. They weren't even bad.

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[=sw=warlord]

So far, I've gotten half way through black ops in the week that I've had it...and Nazi zombies seems to be the only rewarding thing about the purchase.
The campaign thus far has been pretty ragged almost as if Treyarch tried a little too hard in making it seem like you're captive.
Oh and it would be nice if they actually upgraded the engine a little to accommodate better physics.
I've lost count how many time's I've gotten stuck on some retarded invisible piece of geometry or how badly the bipeds will fall to the floor almost Halo:CE like.

[Pooky]

If you come to the point where your complaining about the gun color, you are just knit picking and being an up-tight asshole. If you actually played MW2 and Blackops and didn't just say how bad it was, you'd see that they weren't horrible. They weren't even bad.

Played shitloads of MW2. Not as much blackops, but still a lot.

They both sucked compared to Call of Duty 4.

I know that every game can't be a masterpiece like CoD 4 was, but seriously. In a series with as little innovation as this one, there's absolutely no excuse to be doing anything but improving with each installment.

[Warsaw]

As opposed to generic pink?

Do you just want more guns with cosmetic camo? Because it would be more realistic if they just used all black, I don't know of any military that issues colored firearms with the exception of the Canadian Forces. Our latest C7A2's/A3's come with OD green stocks, grips, scopes, etc... Mostly all the colored stuff is reserved for special forces and/or PMC's.


USA issues tan and desert camo weapons to troops in the Middle East. Colour is too region-dependent to try and give everyone the same colour, so black is the default. There is a lot of surplus black.

That aside, this game looks like the same tired CoD visuals we've had since CoD 3. Game-play will likely remain similar, though that by itself is not a problem since the same can be said of BF3 vs. BC2. However BF3 has far superior ambiance and better game-play already, so I am not too interested in MW3.

[TVTyrant]

USA issues tan and desert camo weapons to troops in the Middle East. Colour is too region-dependent to try and give everyone the same colour, so black is the default. There is a lot of surplus black.

That aside, this game looks like the same tired CoD visuals we've had since CoD 3. Game-play will likely remain similar, though that by itself is not a problem since the same can be said of BF3 vs. BC2. However BF3 has far superior ambiance and better game-play already, so I am not too interested in MW3.
Guns are easy to paint anyways. You just remove the bolt and paint it with a can of Krylon.

[Amit]

That aside, this game looks like the same tired CoD visuals we've had since CoD 3. Game-play will likely remain similar, though that by itself is not a problem since the same can be said of BF3 vs. BC2. However BF3 has far superior ambiance and better game-play already, so I am not too interested in MW3.

The same thing cannot be said for BF3 vs. BC2. The visuals are far superior in BF3, but the gameplay reminds me a lot of Medal of Honor (2010). Since we have only seen scripted campaign gameplay we can't make any real judgement as to what the MP will be like. Since we've had the same shit cod game rehashed (MW2-->BO) we have a pretty good expectation of what MW3 is going to play like.

[Warsaw]

I'm talking about multi-player here. The formula has not changed since Battlefield 1942, and it is unlikely to change appreciably this time either. The only thing that is really going to change is how they balance the game. Pray for death zones above uncaps, people.

I actually swear they broke BC2 with the latest patch because now everybody is one-shotting me with sniper rifles (I used to be able to take two hits) while I'm wearing body armour and everyone is somehow a god with headshots while sprinting and jumping over obstacles. Say what?

[TeeKup]

Everytime Dice touched BC2 it got worse. The first 2 patches were ok but after that I just can't play it anymore.

[Warsaw]

It's still mostly the same, but those two things have made my K/D go to shit on more than a few occasions. But still, knowing your game is supported by the developer/publisher is better than what we get from Activision/CoD Devs. All they do is throw more DLC at us to get our money. Few, if any, patches. No cheat protection. No dedicated servers. This is why I have shifted as much of my play to PC as I can. Cheat protection is better, we have better servers, and you don't get fucked by the controls every two encounters.

Also, please tell me you don't play Reach over BC2, because Reach is far worse. It's almost as bad as MW2.

[TeeKup]

I don't have reach anymore. I honestly hate the game.

[Pooky]

I don't have reach anymore. I honestly hate the game.

This.

[Mr Buckshot]

On the subject of COD price gouging:

Activision has kindly offered a 10% discount on the new Escalation DLC for black ops on PC.

Hmm, didn't Treyarch promise a May release for mod tools a few days ago? Looks like they blatantly lied - there's no way Activision would allow mod tools to cut into DLC profits. At least Battlefield DLC is free, so I can forgive the lack of mod tools for that one.

It looks like this is never stopping. I'll likely just borrow MW3 to play once on either 360 or PS3, and stick with COD4 for PC multiplayer.

[Spartan094]

Hmm, didn't Treyarch promise a May release for mod tools a few days ago? Looks like they blatantly lied - there's no way Activision would allow mod tools to cut into DLC profits.
MW2 said modding tools would be out, nope
BO said modding tools would be also out, nope

Me and korman already had a discussion about this somewhere in this forum but you took reference off of it in the last part of the sentence.

Who wants a poster guiesss when you pre-order MW3. </sarcasm>

[MXC]

Pffft, Reach haters.


Unless you're talking about Breach and you keep making the same typo.

[Warsaw]

Hush. It's a terrible game and you know it.

@Lack of mod tools: mod tools would render their DLCs pointless. Of course they are not going to release them.

[Spartan094]

Hush. It's a terrible game and you know it.

@Lack of mod tools: mod tools would render their DLCs pointless. Of course they are not going to release them.
Because they know the people can do better then those shitty devs to waste that want us to waste our money

[Donut]

cod 4 on the pc had modding tools, didnt it?

[Warsaw]

Yes it did. And then Activision rediscovered the grand old tradition of nickel and diming the consumer for all he is worth.

[Spartan094]

World at War had modding tools, dunno how that worked out, did pretty good for Zombies though.

[Spartan094]

Gameplay trailer tonight at 6 PM PT. 2 A.M. for UK people. Lets see how it turns out and how you guys react.

It will be on the NBA Western Conference btw

[Spartan094]

Sorry for triple posting buttt

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It's legit. Opinions?

[TVTyrant]

Not much "gameplay" in their gameplay trailer lol. Mostly just theatrics. I sure hope they have actually improved the game.

[TeeKup]

So Berlin will burn again will it?

[Higuy]

Hopefully the gameplay will be better than the last two games (black ops; mw2). I'm sure it will be an amazingly cinematic experience, but they could work on making the gameplay decent.

[TeeKup]

Also this looks to be a very nice movie.

[PenGuin1362]

hated MW:2. campaign was all over the place and no character development, and MP just sucked. Blacks ops I actually enjoyed and Treyarch managed to surprise me considering i hated their last two releases. As much as I feel like I'll hate this one, its oddly appealing so far. Plus they have the Kel-tec KSG (epic shotgun). We'll have to see as more about gameplay is revealed. That's just my opinion, since eveyone's is going to differ.

[CaptainDEEZ]

Thanks for posting the video.
I hope they plan on making it more like the first Modern Warfare. I don't usually play the CoD series for the single player anyways.
And never for the zombies. I just don't have the patience for zombies.

[paladin]

that looked badass. if you say anything less



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[Pooky]

that looked badass. if you say anything less

So did all the pre-release footage of MW2 :downs:

Seriously though, I hope this will be as good as CoD 4, but I definitely won't be impulse buying this time around.

[Donut]

same here, i dropped 60 bucks on mw2 and went to the midnight release. i am not doing that again. im sure 80% of the gamers at school will have it, so ill just play it at a friend's house. if its any good i might consider whoring their gaming apparatus for a while. it is unlikely i will buy this though.

[TVTyrant]

that looked badass. if you say anything less
WTF is that Brad Pitt behind Peyton Manning? Or DiCaprio? WHO THE FUCK IS THAT!?!?!?!?!?

[Amit]

Remember, kids, just because it looks badass doesn't make it any good. Campaign looks cool, but stale. Typical CoD game. All explosions and no substance.

And paladin just stop with the "haters gonna hate" stuff. The direction that CoD has taken since MW2 is bullshit and you know it. No need to suck ATVI's dick.

[Warsaw]

I hope in-game looks that good. Because god damn do CoD particle effects always seem to look like shit. That video looked refreshingly clean.

[Ifafudafi]

looks cool

not much more than that

(I kind of got a little kick out of the boat bouncing up when the little wave in the water came along)

tbqh I'm surprised how little in that sequence actually looks new. Shooting, rappelling, breaching, gunshipping w/ minigun, etc. has all kind of been done. They're all minor variations of point-crosshair-murder-bad-guys of course but the only thing especially fresh on display was

...

yeah

If there's something really new and exciting to change up the gameplay, I hope they show it off at E3, because this series is starting to stagnate hard.

[MXC]

Meh. It's a burnt out engine being used by a burnt out company for a burnt our franchise. I stopped buying the games after 4 and I'm not about to go out and buy another.



Oh, and still playing Reach, and loving it.

[Pooky]

looks cool

not much more than that

(I kind of got a little kick out of the boat bouncing up when the little wave in the water came along)

tbqh I'm surprised how little in that sequence actually looks new. Shooting, rappelling, breaching, gunshipping w/ minigun, etc. has all kind of been done. They're all minor variations of point-crosshair-murder-bad-guys of course but the only thing especially fresh on display was

...

yeah

If there's something really new and exciting to change up the gameplay, I hope they show it off at E3, because this series is starting to stagnate hard.

The only changes CoD 4 ever needed were all the little glitches fixed, map exploits sealed, and maybe the M16 nerfed a little bit. They could have done that with a patch. I keep hoping for the CoD sequels to be exactly that, but they just keep getting more glitchy and unbalanced :\

[Cortexian]

In that latest trailer where they cut to "FRANC3" I like how the first couple scenes are featuring USA DEA FAST teams instead of French forces, American flags on their uniforms and everything.

Come on QA, suck less.

DEA FAST Team:

http://vimeo.com/6722474

I'm working on changing my airsoft setup into something closer to what they're using.

[=sw=warlord]

Hey MW3, Imma happy for you and all and imma let you finish but Crysis 2 was the best destroyed new york in a game of all time, Of all time!

[hobojoe]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZrV_LFXff4w&feature=feedu

Well its official, we are getting the same game.:gonk:

[Nero]

They did the past, the present, some bullshit future, and now they need to move on to do a Scifi Future Call of Duty. :neckbeard:

[Amit]

In that latest trailer where they cut to "FRANC3" I like how the first couple scenes are featuring USA DEA FAST teams instead of French forces, American flags on their uniforms and everything.


Why does it matter that its FAST teams rather than regular forces? Just cool?

[Cortexian]

Because... All the other countries seemed to have their own military forces for their respective scenes. Then Franc3 was all like "make love not war, we suck at fighting".

[Mr Buckshot]

They did the past, the present, some bullshit future, and now they need to move on to do a Scifi Future Call of Duty. :neckbeard:

Crysis 2, it might as well be called "Call of Duty: Future Warfare".

Reveal trailer did look entertaining.

I'm wondering if they'll fix the character models such that they update properly when a weapon is drawn. It makes me LOL to see Price draw his M1911 to execute Al-Asad - and his holster still contains his M1911, it's as if he somehow squeezed two in there! Even worse were the scenes with Shepherd, where he just reached behind him and magically produced his revolver/knife as if it were taped to his back (while the weapon was clearly visible in his holster the whole time). Just reflects pure laziness with animations, I mean games on the previous gen consoles and even the PSP have been able to do this properly so it's really not hard to do it this gen.

[ODX]

I hope in-game looks that good. Because god damn do CoD particle effects always seem to look like shit. That video looked refreshingly clean.I think that was all in-game, and yes it does look a lot cleaner than MW2 was. Hard to describe how but it does just look to have a better atmosphere and overall color.


Meh. It's a burnt out engine being used by a burnt out company...The company isn't really "burned out" per se...I mean come on, half of Infinity Ward is new and they also have the help of two other studios. One being Raven Software who made Singularity which is a pretty nice game when I played it. In response to the engine though:"Moved beyond its MW2 Tech" (http://kotaku.com/5804735/the-maker-of-modern-warfare-3-has-moved-beyond-its-modern-warfare-2-tech)

[Mr Buckshot]

They may claim to be moving beyond the engine, but they're still developing for a 6 year old console that doesn't even render in true 720p (it runs below that and artificially upconverts it).

Of course, gameplay before tech - otherwise I wouldn't be playing old games.

[=sw=warlord]

They may claim to be moving beyond the engine, but they're still developing for a 6 year old console that doesn't even render in true 720p (it runs below that and artificially upconverts it).

Of course, gameplay before tech - otherwise I wouldn't be playing old games.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the resolution is entirely Dependant on the game it's running.
Halo 3 used a lower than 720 to enhance the lighting but games running on source seem to be running 720 perfectly fine.

[TVTyrant]

Because... All the other countries seemed to have their own military forces for their respective scenes. Then Franc3 was all like "make love not war, we suck at fighting".
Maybe we sent a FAST team to assist or something?

[=sw=warlord]

Because... All the other countries seemed to have their own military forces for their respective scenes. Then Franc3 was all like "make love not war, we suck at fighting".


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Wv5Pz9Hks

[Spartan094]

Every CoD game comes out before my birthday, never spent a penny on any CoD game, so I don't need to complain.

Also I was at Red Robins today, packed full of people and the MW3 trailer showed, everybody was like jizzing in their pants, except for a few people who sneered.

E: Warlord, +rep

[Warsaw]

The ones who sneered are Battlefield players. Like me. I sneered. :D

@ODX: By in-game, I mean actual gameplay in-game. All of ME2 was "in-game", but some of the cutscenes looked drastically better.

[TVTyrant]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=02Wv5Pz9Hks
Older than the Internet. But still amusing n this conversation. +rep

[Amit]

ROFL, oh Activision, your statements never cease to amuse outrage me:


Activision has officially announced Call of Duty: Moder Warfare 3, which is set to be released on November 8, 2011. And get this: the publisher thinks the game is going to be awesome.

Activision believes Modern Warfare 3 will deliver "the most advanced multiplayer ever". Activision Publishing CEO Eric Hirshberg labelled it the "year's most anticipated entertainment launch".

"Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3 is by far the most epic Call of Duty experience yet," said Hirshberg. "The teams at Infinity Ward and Sledgehammer Games have worked tirelessly to create for the Call of Duty player a scale that is unimaginable with a level of polish and creativity that will push the genre forward.

"The passion and energy of our developers is reflected in everything about the title. From the innovative gameplay, to the cinematic intensity, to the most advanced multiplayer ever, Modern Warfare 3 will raise the bar for this already incredible franchise."


Source (http://ps3.mmgn.com/News/Modern-Warfare-3-will-have-most-advanced)

[ODX]

If MW3 is following the trend of how CoD normally is, then it's laughable.

But I'm willing to bet that this one, like I said before, is going to change things up a LOT because of the two assisting developers and a fresh set of employees in IW itself.

[Warsaw]

I will laugh so hard if their "most advanced multiplayer ever" is A.) a copy of all of Reach's features pasted into the core MW gameplay, or B.) Battlefield-esque gameplay.

[Pooky]

I will laugh so hard if their "most advanced multiplayer ever" is A.) a copy of all of Reach's features pasted into the core MW gameplay, or B.) Battlefield-esque gameplay.

Or some godawful mishmash of both played on cramped, poorly designed maps with ridiculously unbalanced weapons.

Oh, wait...

[Warsaw]

No, MW2's (and Black Ops's) features pale next to Reach's. They haven't gotten away from core CoD 4+ multiplayer, they've just made it worse.

I do agree about the maps and crap weapons, though.

[Pooky]

No, MW2's (and Black Ops's) features pale next to Reach's. They haven't gotten away from core CoD 4+ multiplayer, they've just made it worse.

I do agree about the maps and crap weapons, though.

It was more about CoD taking features from other games than trying to say their features are equal to Reach specifically.

[Higuy]

How can you say there features are equal to Reach when Reach basically had taken similar gameplay elements from the CoD series? And even then, Reach still plays pretty deferentially.

[Pooky]

How can you say there features are equal to Reach when Reach basically had taken similar gameplay elements from the CoD series? And even then, Reach still plays pretty deferentially.


It was more about CoD taking features from other games rather than trying to say their features are equal to Reach specifically.

Are people THAT dumb?

Seriously??

[Limited]

Yeah fuck which ever game dev is making the game. Derailing a subway train in London and explosions, really?? What inconsiderate fucking prick thought of that plot?? That is literally like making a mission where you crash a plane into a skyscraper in New York. The COD series has no fucking tact or care apart from their own piles of cash.

[TVTyrant]

Yeah fuck which ever game dev is making the game. Derailing a subway train in London and explosions, really?? What inconsiderate fucking prick thought of that plot?? That is literally like making a mission where you crash a plane into a skyscraper in New York. The COD series has no fucking tact or care apart from their own piles of cash.
MW2's airport mission...

[Limited]

Yeah that was bad, but it didn't directly relate to a real life event, this does.

If the game had the plane thing I described people would be up in arms.

[Warsaw]

Just wait until they start using real-life political figures as bad guys or scapegoats in the games...

[Limited]

Just wait until they start using real-life political figures as bad guys or scapegoats in the games...
You trolling?

Really can't see how your comparing effectively reconstructing a terrorist attack, and having real political figures as bad guys. Which by the way has happened hundreds of times already (Hitler)

[Warsaw]

They haven't used living figures or figures that are in office at the same time as the game's release. It would be a real smear for them to have this reconstruction of actual terror events and then actually linking them to Al Qaeda.

[Kornman00]

Games need more smearing. No fucking tip-toeing around. Use your artistic license you goddamn game designers! Help raise issues like your sister arts.

[Warsaw]

I'm still mad at EA for pulling "Taliban" out of Medal or Honor.

[TVTyrant]

Deleted my post because it was terrible.

Not many in America would be all that vocal about it. I'll leave it at that.

I agree Warsaw. We make people tiptoe way too much over this stuff sometimes.

[Donut]

idk, i feel like reconstructing an actual terrorist attack, as long as youre not glorifying it or anything, would be a good story event and mood setter. like, avenging the death of those people in the attack or whatever.

[Kornman00]

idk, i feel like reconstructing an actual terrorist attack, as long as youre not glorifying it or anything, would be a good story event and mood setter. like, avenging the death of those people in the attack or whatever.
Exactly, they made a movie about Flight 93 after all. It's about grabbing people's attention, bringing something to light, food for thought.

[=sw=warlord]

Yeah fuck which ever game dev is making the game. Derailing a subway train in London and explosions, really?? What inconsiderate fucking prick thought of that plot?? That is literally like making a mission where you crash a plane into a skyscraper in New York. The COD series has no fucking tact or care apart from their own piles of cash.

Wait, stop the presses.
Activision outing a modern warfare game with event's designed to shock and anger people?
This needs to be put on the front pages immediately.
nothing like this has ever happened before.
:downs:

[Limited]

Exactly, they made a movie about Flight 93 after all. It's about grabbing people's attention, bringing something to light, food for thought.
I havent seen Flight 93, but I did see World Trade Centre (the one with Nick Cage). That is a different angle of what we are talking about.

Considering the inquests into what happened has just finished, therefore the pain and heartache the families of the victims and survivors has painfully been brought back to the surface. Now this, which is obviously depicting what happened, even though Activision has denied it is linked - saying the scenes are entirely fictional and not intended to recreate any historical events. You have all clearly shown that you believe it does.

A truck cuts in front of the tube train, causing it to derail and explode, the train is identicalto those used in the underground.

[Spartan094]

Modern Warfare 3 Destruction Is Purely Scripted


It has been revealed that Modern Warfare 3's destruction mechanic is purely scripted and is no way influenced by the player unlike Battlefield.

The news was revealed at a pre-E3 event in London this week where the game was finally available to see first hand.

Numerous rumours have been circling that some kind of destruction mechanic was going to be added to Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3's engine in order to bring it up to speed with its main rival Battlefield.

Destruction will feature heavily in the latest title however it will all be cinematic and throwing grenades or shooting bullets at surfaces will have no effect on buildings bar texture changes.

The mission known as "Black Tuesday" sees you climbing to the roof of the New York Stock Exchange to detonate a Russian radar-jamming tower and as you do it crumbles and falls realistically however this is fully scripted.

No surprise here.

[Ifafudafi]

A lot of the previews I'm seeing have been saying basically that it's more of the same gameplay, but in bigger and denser environments. To be expected, and the massive IW exodus can't have helped things along. Expectations are firmly set to "ok cool."

It's quite likely they're focusing the bulk of the effort into multiplayer, which they'll almost certainly show off at E3. IW PR has been saying that the MP will include some major innovation but for all we know that could just mean a new gametype or two, so I guess we'll have to wait a couple weeks to see if there's anything

[Guardian]

http://www.ausgamers.com/games/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3/screenshots/2011-05-26/

[Warsaw]

Modern Warfare 3 Destruction Is Purely Scripted


No surprise here.

Bahahahahahahaha!

@Ifafudafi: So basically they are pulling a Halo: Reach...

[Amit]

http://www.ausgamers.com/games/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3/screenshots/2011-05-26/

That SAS picture really looks like COD4 and the underwater one looks exactly like MW2. I like the art style of the US soldiers, but the engine is really done out. This is probably the last squeeze. At least with some sense it would be the last squeeze. Just for shits, though, I'd like to see them pull another CoD out of their ass with this engine.

Okay, to be completely honest, I hope ridiculous things like this keep happening. I just cannot bear to see more mediocre CoD games be released. When I think back to the days of CoD:UO, CoD2, and CoD4, it makes me so sad to see the new low that the franchise has come to.

We need to euthanize this bitch and nuke it hard! The only way for us to continue to enjoy CoD is to kill off the series and go back to CoD4.

[Cortexian]

Start telling all your friends about how BF3 will stomp on this now. The only reason more people play CoD is because its the cool "fad" game to be playing at the time.

I know a model chick that plays BlOps for literally that reason alone. Because her friends have it.

[Warsaw]

I've been doing that since the announcement. The only one I can't convince to drop CoD completely is my brother because he's a total MW2fag.

[Amit]

My steam clan, =LIGS= are huge BlOps fans and play it religiously. I brought to light the atrocities of Activision against PC gamers, and they simply don't care. Some of the members just ignored my posts and then posted their own "OMG NEW MAP PACK" threads. They are finally seeing the devil in ATVI now, though. Almost all of them have expressed disgust in another Map Pack (Escalation) and its price since the map packs so far have been lackluster. To my pleasure, most have said the same about MW3.

BURN THE KIDDIES WE SHALL. BF3 is gonna drop a couple 1k pound bombs on MW3's ass.

[Pyong Kawaguchi]

Actually, Escalation wasn't bad imo.

[Amit]

Most people wouldn't know due to the bad taste in their mouth from the other packs. The price is more of the barrier than anything else.

[Mr Buckshot]

For BO owners on PC, an auto patch claims that "mod support is being added in preparation for upcoming mod tools release."

I'm starting to suspect that the mod tools might not even have level geometry editing at all, in other words they might actually be worse than H2V's. I wouldn't be surprised if the mod tools limited us to mixing the colors up in the stock maps or something. After all why would they release two $15 DLC packs when even H2V level of modding tools would render it useless.

[Amit]

I noticed this about an hour or so ago, as well. "In preparation." They are dragging this WAY too far out now. Notice how it was the first thing on the note list? They just want the PC crowd to hold onto some hope of still getting hold of the tools. They are trying their hardest to milk every last penny out of BO before MW3 in November and it really shows. This is just disgusting. I don't see how gaming journalists can dismiss their contempt of PC users. They go out of their way to piss off real CoD fans.

I found some comments on the patch list at PC Gamer.

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/amit9821/Capture-9.png

They hatin'...

This one about MW3 kills me, though. I seriously LOL'd:

http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h262/amit9821/Capture-10.png

[Spartan094]

MW3 be brewing up a shit storm.

Also Amit +rep.

[Spartan094]

http://www.gamersspot.com/?controller=news&op=view-news&news_id=82357

Supposed leak of Perks and Killstreak rewards

Here it is if you don't want to click links

Perk 1 :
Name: Covert
Feature I: The first feature to the Perk ‘Covert’ stops the enemy from viewing their killcam when they are killed by you. The main feature also prevents deathmarks from being placed when you kill a member of the enemy team making it hard for hostile forces to pinpoint your location.
Feature II: The second feature to ‘Covert’ allows you to remain hidden from enemy UAVs. In addition you will no longer render a red name or crosshair when an enemy is close to you.
Feature III: The final feature is as expected, you remain hidden from all enemy killstreak rewards making it easy to venture throughout the map without having any trouble from any killstreak reward owned by a hostile player with the exception of Counter UAVs.
Name: Recon
Feature I: The main feature to the Perk ‘Recon’ allows you to gain killstreak rewards with one less kill than normally required. This is the ‘traditional’ feature to Hardline in the last two games.
Feature II: You can now switch your airdrops one time for a chance to get a better reward by double tapping the Square (ps3) or the X (xbox). In addition you can also capture enemy airdrops faster. And finally you can detect when a hostile has booby trapped an airdrop.
Feature III: The final feature is slightly more complicated. Let’s say an enemy calls in an airstrike, well on your screen you will see a long red line showing exactly where the airstrike is going to hit, this is also shown on your minimap. The same goes for when an enemy calls in a helicopter, you will be able to see exactly where they called it in to. Overall this Perk is mainly for players who want to benefit with their team and on their own depending on which features they choose to act on.
Name: Specialist
Feature I: The main feature to this Perk allows you to move faster similarly to Lightweight from previous games. Not much else to say about this.
Feature II: The second feature to Specialist allows you to run for a longer duration much like Marathon from previous games. Again, not much else to say on the second feature to Specialist.
Feature III: The third and final feature of Specialist allows you to walk crouched or prone faster.
Name: Scavenger
Feature I: Pretty obviously the main feature to Scavenger allows you to resupply from dead enemies, from this you can resupply rounds and lethal grenades.
Feature II: The second feature to this Perk allows you to resupply tactical grenades and equipment from dead enemies.
Feature III: HAVEN’T DECIDED.
Perk 2 :
Name: Sleight of Hand
Feature I: The main feature to Sleight of Hand allows you to reload all weapons faster. Not much else to it.
Feature II: The second feature to Sleight of Hand gives you the ability to ADS faster.
Feature III: The final feature to Sleight of Hand allows you to switch weapons faster. Not much else to this Perk.
Name: Reflexes
Feature I: The main feature of ‘Reflexes’ allows you to use your knife a lot quicker.
Feature II: The second feature to ‘Reflexes’ grants you less flinch when shot at.
Feature III: The final feature to ‘Reflexes’ allows you to crouch/prone/stand up a lot quicker.
Name: Sharpshooter
Feature I: The main feature of this Perk doesn’t reduce your recoil but it makes it more controllable and more predictable. For example, it will recoil more in the middle and top rather than to the left and right every so often, this Perk doesn’t decrease recoil, that’s what Grip is for.
Feature II: The second feature to Sharpshooter increases your hip fire accuracy.
Feature III: The final feature to Sharpshooter reduces your idle sway, you can also hold your breath longer if you have a sniper rifle equipped.
Name: Bling
Feature I: Allows you to equip three attachments to your primary weapon (default being 2).
Feature II: The second feature to Bling allows you to equip two attachments on your secondary (default being 1).
Feature III: The final feature to Bling allows you to equip two pieces of equipment.
NOTE: This Perk cannot be combined with a Grenade Launcher, and normally Grenade Launchers take up two attachments.
Name: Weapon Master
Feature I: The first feature to ‘Weapon Master’ replaces your secondary with another primary weapon.
Feature II: The second feature allows you to drop no weapon on death.
Feature III: The third and final feature allows you to equip a pistol of your choice along side.
Perk 3 :
Name: Bandoiler
Feature I: This Perk is pretty much the pro to Scavenger along with some extra helpful features. The main feature to this Perk allows you to spawn with full ammunition at the start of matches and every time you respawn. Very helpful when it comes to big games, combined with Scavenger this feature makes it dominant.
Feature II: The second feature to this Perk allows you to have up to two lethal grenade slots and three tactical grenade slots. You also spawn with the extra grenades.
Feature III: The third and final feature of this Perk allows you to hold three extra magazines onto your loadout. So if your gun usually holds 200 bullets and each mag was 30 bullets you would end up with 290 bullets, if you combine this with Scavenger it will be dominant over one man army and teamplay operations.
Name: Tactician
Feature I: Allows you to take no falling damage.
Feature II: You can throw grenades quicker and farther.
Feature III: The final feature to ‘Tactician’ allows you to reset the fuse on grenades when throwing them back.
Name: Infiltrator
Feature I: Your footsteps are silent.
Feature II: Enemy equipment no longer affects you unless it’s a proximity explosive.
Feature III: Your knifing, defusing, reloading and etc is now silent.
Name: Engineer
Feature I: You can see enemy equipment through walls.
Feature II: You can now booby trap enemy airdrops and you can hack enemy equipment.
Feature III: Finally, you can defuse the bomb quicker in bomb based game modes.
Name: Navigator
Feature I: Enemies who have shown on the radar now last longer before fading, in addition it also shows the direction enemies are facing.
Feature II: You are no longer affected by Counter UAVs.
Feature III: Finally, enemies close to you will get their radar slowly jammed, the closer they get.
Killstreaks
3) Mortar Team (1 location)
3) UAV
4) Counter UAV
4) SAM Turret
4) Care Package
5) Precision Air Strike
5) Sentry Gun
6) Artillery (3 location)
6) PredatorMissle
7) Attack Helicopter
7) Stealth Bomber
8 ) Harrier Airstrike
8 ) GlobalHawk (blackbird effect)
9) Fire Scout UAV (uav + attackhelicopter effect)
9) Pavelow
9) Emerygency airdrop (4 Package)
9) EMP (last for 60 sec)
13) AC130
15) Chopper Gunner
18 ) Nuclear EMP (Disable Perks for opponent team for 30sec only, Eletronics and Air Killstreaks wont be destoryed.)
25) Tactical Nuke

[Warsaw]

Sounds like they are actually trying to make the classes mean something with those Perk Three effects.

Something also tells me that mortar strike and artillery support are going to be whored to hell and back.

[Kornman00]

trololololololo, Tactical Nuke!

I thought they got rid of the TN in one of their recent games? Oh well

[Rook]

looks promising 10/10

This will bring back all my friends that played MW2 gonna be so good.

[TeeKup]

Some of the perks sound like what they should have been, others seem irritating. Weapon Master, Bandolier and Scavenger seems like it would be very rude.


EDIT: Of course its nice to see the third most annoying perk in the series has been finally removed. Second Chance/Last Stand. Stopping Power/Juggernaut/Last Stand is finally fucking dead. How many games has it been? FUCK.

[Amit]

This will bring back all my friends that played MW2 gonna be so good.

Looks promising as a steaming pile of the usual Activision crap. Looking forward to the campaign, even if it's wack.

[Warsaw]

I like how at GameStop the MW3 poster is twice the size of the BF3 poster. Funny enough, the BF3 logo and picture are a hell of a lot more engaging and well-made than the MW3 counterpart.

I do enjoy the whole WW3--->MW3 flip thing.

[Amit]

Pics of that gamestop poster vs BF3's?

[Warsaw]

Next time I'm at the mall, I'll take a picture. It won't be very pretty though.

[Spartan094]

COD MODERN WARFARE 3 TRADE-IN PROMOTION
SAVE WHEN YOU TRADE TO BUY THE GAME!

Save when you trade to pre-order Call of Duty Modern Warfare 3
Trade 3 games - Get it for FREE.
Trade 2 games - Get it for $9.99.
Trade 1 game - Get it for $39.99


Applies to titles with a minimum $8 trade value only. Valid on PlayStation 3, PSP, Wii, Nintendo DS and Xbox 360 games. Trade value of 3 games traded towards this promotion will only increase to a value equal to the value of the regular edition of this title. Games must include boxes and instructions. No duplicate titles accepted. Some titles may be excluded. No dealers please. Offer may be discontinued at any time. Limit one per customer. Offer valid in Canada only. May not be combined with any other offer. See sales associate for complete details.
Cool

[TeeKup]

Wow. That promotion is just BEGGING people to buy the game.

[Spartan094]

They are trying to beat BF3. And I kinda noticed it seems like a desperate attempt. Oh well looks I can trade some old games in. But then again I am getting it for my b-day and I know this since they always shelled out a CoD game right before my birthday.

[Kornman00]

"Offer valid in Canada only."

[Spartan094]

"Offer valid in Canada only."
:realsmug:

You caught it at least. It doesn't matter to me though, I will always get one as my b-day gift.

[Amit]

:realsmug:

You caught it at least. It doesn't matter to me though, I will always get one as my b-day gift.

Tell them you want BF3 instead!

[Spartan094]

Tell them you want BF3 instead!
Or I could get my parents to get it for me? Because my grandparents always have gotten CoD for my b-day since 05 (just shows how the series is milking the money cow).

Really I don't hate either CoD or BF, I just play them both and have them both.

[Warsaw]

I have MW2. Never touched it. I have two copies of BC2. I play them all the time and they, along with BF2 and BF:P4F, are my exclusive go-to games for multiplayer.

[Amit]

Or I could get my parents to get it for me? Because my grandparents always have gotten CoD for my b-day since 05 (just shows how the series is milking the money cow).

Really I don't hate either CoD or BF, I just play them both and have them both.

Then don't have your loved ones waste their money on a company that would sooner pull out their kidneys than give them a free map pack for CoD. I bet Kotick wants to take over the world. What else could he want with all that money?

[=sw=warlord]

Then don't have your loved ones waste their money on a company that would sooner pull out their kidneys than give them a free map pack for CoD. I bet Kotick wants to take over the world. What else could he want with all that money?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

[Amit]

lol, I remember seeing that attached to a Miss North Carolina video.

[Teltaur]

Well, isn't this just great?

Activision plans to charge a monthly subscription fee, called "Call of Duty Elite". (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304563104576355310423496054.html?m od=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories)

[Spartan094]

Nope. That is some bullshit I will never pay for.

Time to change my bday gift to BF3.

[Amit]

See brah, I'm full of wisdom.

So buying extra stuff for the game makes you "elite?" Pathetic.

[Spartan094]

So buying extra stuff for the game makes you "elite?" Pathetic.
The little kids think so, this is probably the generic gamer when they "buy" into it
http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/2392/1301020470683.png

Then again the little kids dont spend their money, they make their parents do it!

[TeeKup]

I was debating renting this after a 3 month grace period after release. That debate is now done. I won't be touching this.

[Kornman00]

I'm down for buying BF3 to protest MW3 and other Activision bullshit.

Unless there are Halo games to be bought later this year. Those come first. Unless they're a bunch of BS too. Then it's BF3 in protest of everything.

[Pooky]

Well, isn't this just great?

Activision plans to charge a monthly subscription fee, called "Call of Duty Elite". (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304563104576355310423496054.html?m od=WSJ_hp_LEFTTopStories)


Activision Blizzard (http://online.wsj.com/public/quotes/main.html?type=djn&symbol=ATVI) Inc. plans to launch an online service called Call of Duty Elite this fall that will work with the next major edition of the game, "Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 3," and future installments of the hyper-realistic combat-simulation game.

LOL

Yeah, what Teekup said. I was ready to give this game a chance, but fuck that. Won't be buying.

[Amit]

LOL

THIS ONE HUNDRED TIMES. I remember seeing it but the article was so fucking long and steeped with activision bullshit that I forgot about it.

If there are two games this year that are guaranteed to be excellent, those would be:

Red Orchestra: Heroes of Stalingrad
Battlefield 3

We've successfully turned this MW3 info thread into a "BF3, fuck yeah!" thread. With good reason, too. I didn't think the news for MW3 could get any more ridiculous. But who am I shitting? This is ATVI we're talking about here :haw:

[Pooky]

Eh, I'm not really interested in BF3 for my part, but that's because I don't like games where teamplay is a requirement.

I think I've mentioned this before, but I'd pay $60 for a CoD 4 patch that fixed all the stupid map glitches, fixed all the bugs in Create A Class, and rebalanced the weapons a tiny bit (basically, add sway and recoil to the M16), before I'd buy MW3.

[Amit]

LOLOLOLOL:

x7svsm-YYIU

Basically we just saw the first in-game footage of MW3 MP at the end. I literally thought it was MW2 until I noticed the blood type patch on the dude's arm. So that guy basically just showed the world that you'd be paying for stuff that was free before. I'm glad that a bunch of people that I know that play CoD heavily heard about this and are pretty disgusted. They say they won't buy the game, but I dunno. Saying that is one thing, going through with it is another.

I think Activision will be quite surprised by lack of sales vs BO or MW2 this year.

[Donut]

LOL that video got taken down as i was watching it

[=sw=warlord]

Boycott MW2 MW3
http://gameaxis.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/mw2-boycott-fail.jpg

[TVTyrant]

The movement has begun! Soon I will obtain the black materia and absorb the power of this plane...

Oh sorry. Yeah I remember that lol.

[Warsaw]

What!?

FUCKING. LOL.

I would pay if this was some kind of massive warfare game (also has to be a good game) with persistent world and no instancing, but regular play? On top of XBL for roughly 50% of the player base?

[Ifafudafi]

So Elite is basically like bungie.net stats, except you have to pay for it

GG AV, imagine if BF3 included something like this for free

[Cortexian]

You mean like this?
http://bfbcs.com/stats_pc/Xero852

They've always had a stats system like that available for free, well, access to the API is free.

[Amit]

That would certainly be part of it. However, they are offering heatmaps and the such which were available since games like Halo 3 came out. I'm sure they were available even further back in other games too. This is nothing new and paying for it makes negative sense.

[Warsaw]

Eh, I'm not really interested in BF3 for my part, but that's because I don't like games where teamplay is a requirement.

I think I've mentioned this before, but I'd pay $60 for a CoD 4 patch that fixed all the stupid map glitches, fixed all the bugs in Create A Class, and rebalanced the weapons a tiny bit (basically, add sway and recoil to the M16), before I'd buy MW3.

Battlefield still works pretty well even if the teams are not working together inside themselves. If *you* are playing the game properly, you will usually have a great time. Only exception to this is when your team is getting spawn-raped. On PC, that's harder to do since servers can set up kill zones in and over the DPZ as well as kill players who kill people who are still in the DPZ.

[Pooky]

Battlefield still works pretty well even if the teams are not working together inside themselves. If *you* are playing the game properly, you will usually have a great time. Only exception to this is when your team is getting spawn-raped. On PC, that's harder to do since servers can set up kill zones in and over the DPZ as well as kill players who kill people who are still in the DPZ.

Yeah but I prefer games like Halo (1) where you can basically win the entire game by yourself if you're good enough. I don't like relying on other people for stuff. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with teamwork oriented games, they're just not my thing.

[Warsaw]

I just noticed this: in the article they say that XBL is $9.99 per month. When did this happen? I was under the impression that it was $60 per year, which makes it $5 per month.

[Amit]

I think that's if you pay monthly. If you're like me, you got it for $5 for 5 months haha. Glitch has been fixed.

[Donut]

I just noticed this: in the article they say that XBL is $9.99 per month. When did this happen? I was under the impression that it was $60 per year, which makes it $5 per month.
they increased the price of xbl a while back, i think in january. there are 3 plans too: one month, 3 months, and one year. paying per year ends up being cheaper per month than paying by the month.

[Warsaw]

Ah. Then they've skewed the article because I should think most people would just grab a year and forget about it for the next 11 months.

[Amit]

I don't know anybody who doesn't do that. Except for myself. But that is because I don't even have an XBOX to use LIVE Gold. I just use it when I'm at my cousin's house in the summer.

[Donut]

yeah the one year plan is the way to go. got xbl back in my freshman year of highschool and i dont think iv been without it since.

[Mr Buckshot]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/06/02/call-of-duty-modern-warfare-3-wont-have-dedicated-servers-perks-and-kill-streaks-detailed/?ns_campaign=article-feed&ns_mchannel=ref&ns_source=steam&ns_linkname=0&ns_fee=0

Well, fuck that, I'm not buying it. Maybe borrowing the console version if it's actually entertaining. I wouldn't be surprised if they also decide to cut out split screen from the console versions as another money-grabbing measure.

[paladin]

if one player got too many consecutive kills will be removed for Modern Warfare 3

so they punish you for being good. I cant tell you how many times I went 30+ -0/1/2...

[Amit]

The game is shit. The people making the game are idiots. This is the first sensible action they have made.

[jcap]

Wow.

[Donut]

so they punish you for being good. I cant tell you how many times I went 30+ -0/1/2...
quote the whole quote, fucks sake i was about to rage.

Still, there’s a silver lining. It looks as though Modern Warfare 2′s controversial tactical nuke that would instantly end a multiplayer game if one player got too many consecutive kills will be removed for Modern Warfare 3
theres no tactical nuke in mw3, is what that says. the game doesnt actually kick the player out.

[ODX]

No dedicated servers?

...lol, you just lost all potential for me to buy your game Activision xD

[Cortexian]

I only play on AlterIWNet for MW2, because they added their own dedicated server support. Hell they even got B3 working with it.

[Spartan094]

And watch them make you pay for Elite to unlock the full campaign for MW3 like homefront
:allears:

[Amit]

Hell they even got B3 working with it.

Oh shit, really? I've been looking through my games list for something to reinstall. I paused at the MW2 folder and thought better of it. This might change my mind in the coming days.

[ODX]

And watch them make you pay for Elite to unlock the full campaign for MW3 like homefront
:allears:Wait what?..You have to pay more for the full campaign in Homefront?

[Amit]

Well, it's not apart of the main character's storyline. If I remember correctly, the DLC campaign missions take place in Hawaii or around that area of the Pacific. And I believe the troops you are playing as are SAS or some form special UK forces. People see the SP DLC as paying for the rest of the game because the base game is ridiculously short at 4 hours. I am one of those people. I bet they didn't have enough content for the main storyline, but had the idea of getting the Brits in on the action. It doesn't really seem fitting to just tack the UK missions onto the end of the game, does it? "So, what do we do now?" they ask themselves. "But of course! We'll just sell it as DLC and rake in the cash!"

I can't see very many people shelling out the cash for DLC for a dead game.

[Spartan094]

MW3 is up right now as the start of e3.

AK74u is back from cod4.
P90
G18
AA12
MP5

A lot of reused animations though. Silly activision.

[Amit]

The only thing that was epic about that footage was the scenario that it was set in. I like the look of the Tomb Raider stuff that is on right now.

[Amit]

Wow, this game looks dated:

http://wizardhax.com/images/mw3-amazon-wallpaper-large.jpg

Textures looks low-res. Especially on the SCAR.

[ODX]

They say they're "past their old roots (graphic-wise)" or whatever, but watching the gameplay everything STILL looks like MW2.

What a disappointment [that I was already expecting].

[Amit]

I got that image off Reddit. Apparently, you get that "exclusive" wallpaper when you pre-order the game on Amazon.

[Kornman00]

Well, they are still using that age old id Tech 3 engine or whatever...there's a reason why people shit in the toilet: so they can flush their (old) shit and make room for the next "big thing".

[annihilation]

GoTY 2011 looks like shit.

[Pooky]

I'd be happy to play a game that looked like CS 1.6 if the gameplay didn't suck. But it's going to, so fuck it.

[Donut]

iv said this before, but if activision releases a cod title once per year and rakes in tons of cash from the games plus the 15 dollars for every dlc pack, why cant it venture out and try something dramatically different with one of the new cods. something that isnt cod 4's perk system and mw2's killstreak system with the same glitches in every game. rebuild the game from the ground up and fix the fucking gameplay problems.

they wont though.

[jcap]

Because it doesn't cost them anything to keep recycling the same shit over and over, and they'll continue to make record sales regardless.

[Donut]

yeah, its a pity really.

[Amit]

Really, what difference would it make in the amount of money they have? The could develop an entirely new engine and not even notice a drop in their cash piles. What do they have to lose? Nothing. They've already lost the trust and confidence of real CoD fans.

[Spartan094]

Activision: 90% Of Call of Duty Elite Is Free
http://i.imgur.com/mCiWT.jpg

Wats the other 10% you need to pay for.

[jcap]

No idea, but it actually looks better than what Bungie has to offer. (specifically, groups and rendering to youtube)

[Pooky]

Yeah I wanna watch everyone's shitty CoD sniper montages on youtube where they don't get a single headshot in the entire thing.

[=sw=warlord]

Yeah I wanna watch everyone's shitty CoD sniper montages on youtube where they don't get a single headshot in the entire thing.


Yes, because you are literally forced by hand in hand coercion to look up those shitty videos.
:downs:

[paladin]

Activision: 90% Of Call of Duty Elite Is Free
http://i.imgur.com/mCiWT.jpg

Wats the other 10% you need to pay for.

i dont use any of those so.....

[Donut]

Yes, because you are literally forced by hand in hand coercion to look up those shitty videos.
:downs:
because you favorite one cod:bo video and then your "recommended videos" get flooded with 30 second clips from the game. it happened to one of my accounts with mw2 videos because i favorited a video about getting the riot shield on the mounted turret.

[Warsaw]

I wouldn't be surprised if we later found out that half of that stuff was supposed to be premium but they made it free in fear of Battlefield's offerings.

[Amit]

Did they not say that most things would be free at first and then some would end up under the paid service later?

[Pooky]

Yes, because you are literally forced by hand in hand coercion to look up those shitty videos.
:downs:

http://img691.imageshack.us/img691/2978/stickupyourbutt.png

[=sw=warlord]

I can certainly see why you're so butt hurt pooky.
Must be a real pain in the ass with that branch lodged in there.

[Rosco]

well this new one looks terrible, i didnt buy black ops neither.
I hate how they produced such a fantastic basis for the series, and then ruined it, it's like they've gone in reverse and started releasing shitty uncoordinated betas of the same game but pronounce them "yearly sequals", rather than improving each time.

[Amit]

well this new one looks terrible, i didnt buy black ops neither.
I hate how they produced such a fantastic basis for the series, and then ruined it, it's like they've gone in reverse and started releasing shitty uncoordinated betas of the same game but pronounce them "yearly sequals", rather than improving each time.

That's exactly what happened. MW2 was well produced, but bad executive decisions lead to poor MP level design, axing of mainstream MP features (mainly on the PC) which allowed hackers to have free reign, and retarded weapon balancing. Artistic and stylistic elements of the game were great and PC optimization was excellent. Still, visuals can't fix a broken game. BO was just downright bad. Optimization sucks, level design is abysmal, and weapon composition is garbage.

[Pooky]

That's exactly what happened. MW2 was well produced, but bad executive decisions lead to poor MP level design, axing of mainstream MP features (mainly on the PC) which allowed hackers to have free reign, and retarded weapon balancing. Artistic and stylistic elements of the game were great and PC optimization was excellent. Still, visuals can't fix a broken game. BO was just downright bad. Optimization sucks, level design is abysmal, and weapon composition is garbage.

Everything in this post x100.

Call of Duty is bad. 4 will probably be the last good one we'll ever see :saddowns:

[Phobias]

Cut the cost in half (or quarter), release the new game as single player only and make the new mp content a dlc, ~$15-20 or whatever) for an earlier release (black-ops I guess) and I might buy it and I might even consider paying for whatever the elite shit is.

Oh and then fuck off and stop making shitty games for retarded amounts of money. Actually hold on I need to read more on the game, my idea may not be feesable.

[Donut]

well, its not like they couldnt actually do that. my understanding is that multiplayer and single player are two separate entities with cod games, and theyre only tied together through the main menu.

i figure thats where theyre headed, phobias. they just need to see if they can get away with $20 map pack dlc, then im sure thats the next step.

[Amit]

Oh god, this is too funny!:


The rebels in Misrata said that despite their lack of experience they have been able to innovate their way around every problem that they have faced.

In this they have been helped by the high numbers of university students, academics and professionals in their ranks, as well as the popularity of computer games in the city.
Many of the rebels cite the sophisticated computer war game Call of Duty as their first resource of tactical military knowledge.


Source (http://www.news.com.au/world/libyan-opposition-turn-to-google-earth-call-of-duty-in-battle-against-gaddafi-forces/story-e6frfkyi-1226076431208)

[Donut]

funny, i havent seen anybody running around with an m40a3 acog in any of the pictures out of that conflict. you'd think we'd have more reports of rebels storming into buildings spinning in circles with sniper rifles and foregoing frag grenades in favor of throwing knives.

just make sure somebody tells them to never use the sights on their shotguns
E: oh but i have seen a few rebels with PKMs. somebody get the LMG noob off our team.

[Amit]

Oh my dear beloved Sam Worthington. Jonah's already going to hell, but what the fuck are you doing in this commercial?! :(


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&amp;v=zuzaxlddWbk

[TeeKup]

"LOOK AT OUR GAME IT HAS FAMOUS ACTORS ADVERTISING FOR IT SO YOU SHOULD BUY IT"

- Activision

[jcap]

So guys, now that "THE MOST ANTICIPATED GAME EVAR" is coming out in a few days, I thought I'd review the game for you. :smile:

THIS POST DOES NOT CONTAIN SPOILERS! I only elaborate on what we already know from demos and trailers! Nothing I say in here will spoil the story for you.

With that out of the way, here's my review of MW3.

Wow.

After the disaster that Modern Warfare 2 was, I didn't have any hopes for Modern Warfare 3. The E3 demo and launch trailer showed uncreative and repetitive gameplay that left me to believe the entire game would be a repeat of everything I hated in MW2. The game starts out in New York City, in the same level demonstrated at E3. You're basically playing the same crap that you played in MW2 while in Washington, DC - killing russians with no real purpose or relation to the actual story. The events are ridiculously scripted, and it’s the same god damn “cool” missions (scuba, helicopter, boat, crew expendable) from MW1 and MW2 combined into the first two shitty levels.

While the game runs at a consistently smooth framerate, the graphics look as bad as COD2. The engine has had practically zero improvements in the past 5 years, which is extremely embarrassing for such a high profile video game series. Modern Warfare 3 doesn’t even take advantage of the improvements Treyarch made to the engine for Black Ops, such as the 3D main menu and real cinematic cutscenes. Shadows don't draw unless you are practically standing on top of an object. Unfortunately, Hans Zimmer, the composer for MW2, did not compose the music for MW3. The soundtrack of MW2 was the only thing that was outstanding about that clusterfuck game, but MW3 doesn’t even have that. The music, while fitting the combat scenes, just sounds “generic.”

At this point, any last shred of hope I had for the game completely vanished, leaving me to believe the developers didn't learn anything. I was about to stop playing, but I just had to see how the game ended so I could validate my complaints.

The third level is where the story actually begins. In pursuit of Makarov, the story rapidly picks up pace and continues to grow in intensity until the end of the game. With the exception of the first two levels, Modern Warfare 3 tells a thrilling, dramatic, and emotional story that flows beautifully from one level into the next. This game concludes the Modern Warfare series, and I felt satisfied by the end. Modern Warfare 3 returns to the roots of Modern Warfare 1 and improves on all of the shortcomings of Modern Warfare 2.

It would be best to pretend that Modern Warfare 2 never even existed. Honestly, I think this game was written to erase MW2 from the series. Modern Warfare 3 has only a SINGLE reference to MW2, which is the airport level that was terrorized by Makarov. The hunt for Makarov and the Russian invasion stemmed from that event is all that's relevant to the MW3 story. Nothing else matters…literally. On the other hand, Modern Warfare 1 is a TOTALLY different story. MW3 is so closely tied to the events of MW1 that it continuously refers back to multiple events of the game, and EXPANDS on them! The writers did a fantastic job at tying the two games together.

[Nero]

Omg thats andy whitefield in the video on the other page! RIP :(

[=sw=warlord]

What do you make of criticism of the CoD game engine? Some have suggested it's starting to feel a little aged in comparison to some of its rivals? (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/322694/interviewsmodern-warfare-3-our-engine-is-a-porsche-copy-and-paste-critics-have-no-idea/)Well I'll tell you one thing, I've worked on a lot of engines over my lifetime and spent a lot of time putting graphics in to them and this thing is Porsche. And what I mean by that is that it is stream-lined, everything in it is perfectly freaking clean. You can tell it's been worked on for years. It's easy to upgrade. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/322694/interviewsmodern-warfare-3-our-engine-is-a-porsche-copy-and-paste-critics-have-no-idea/)
We worked with engines before that are like f***ing spaghetti. You can't work on a part and put it back in without messing with everything else. Modern Warfare 3's levels now are so much bigger than the old ones because they go more vertically, they have a bigger footprint and on top of that, higher fidelity, more textures and a lot more detail. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/322694/interviewsmodern-warfare-3-our-engine-is-a-porsche-copy-and-paste-critics-have-no-idea/)
If you put Modern Warfare 2 next to Modern Warfare 3 you would see a huge difference. Look at all the character models, look at all the gun models, look at the reflections, look at the water. There is so much that we've added, so when someone says 'cut and paste', I don't even want to talk to them because they don't know. They just don't know. They have no idea. (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/322694/interviewsmodern-warfare-3-our-engine-is-a-porsche-copy-and-paste-critics-have-no-idea/)


H (http://www.computerandvideogames.com/322694/interviewsmodern-warfare-3-our-engine-is-a-porsche-copy-and-paste-critics-have-no-idea/)eh...

[TeeKup]

You know the funny thing about Porsche?

2001
http://autophotosite.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/2001_Porsche-911_Carrera_Coupe_2001-04-400x300.jpg

2011
http://www.thisweekinmotors.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/2011-Porsche-911-white1.jpg

They don't fucking change much...

[Amit]

Omg thats andy whitefield in the video on the other page! RIP :(

Wrong. It's Sam Worthington. He played Mason in Black Ops. RIP for Andy Whitefield, though. :( I want him back as Spartacus.

Glen Schofield is a tool. How can he seriously say that there is a huge difference in the game engine? There obviously isn't and it's insulting that he would choose to ignore our concerns. I'll reserve final judgement for the game itself, though. He says they are shipping a game, not an engine. Well, you build a game with an engine. Your limiting factor is the engine.

[MXC]

So guys, now that THE MOST ANTICIPATED GAME EVAR is coming out in a few days, I thought I'd review the game for you. :smile:

THIS POST DOES NOT CONTAIN SPOILERS! I only elaborate on what we already know from demos and trailers! Nothing I say in here will spoil the story for you.

With that out of the way, here's my review of MW3.

Wow.

After the disaster that Modern Warfare 2 was, I didn't have any hopes for Modern Warfare 3. The E3 demo and launch trailer showed uncreative and repetitive gameplay that left me to believe the entire game would be a repeat of everything I hated in MW2. The game starts out in New York City, in the same level demonstrated at E3. You're basically playing the same crap that you played in MW2 while in Washington, DC - killing russians with no real purpose or relation to the actual story. The events are ridiculously scripted, and it’s the same god damn “cool” missions (scuba, helicopter, boat, crew expendable) from MW1 and MW2 combined into the first two shitty levels.

While the game runs at a consistently smooth framerate, the graphics look as bad as COD2. The engine has had practically zero improvements in the past 5 years, which is extremely embarrassing for such a high profile video game series. Modern Warfare 3 doesn’t even take advantage of the improvements Treyarch made to the engine for Black Ops, such as the 3D main menu and real cinematic cutscenes. Shadows don't draw unless you are practically standing on top of an object. Unfortunately, Hans Zimmer, the composer for MW2, did not compose the music for MW3. The soundtrack of MW2 was the only thing that was outstanding about that clusterfuck game, but MW3 doesn’t even have that. The music, while fitting the combat scenes, just sounds “generic.”

At this point, any last shred of hope I had for the game completely vanished, leaving me to believe the developers didn't learn anything. I was about to stop playing, but I just had to see how the game ended so I could validate my complaints.

The third level is where the story actually begins. In pursuit of Makarov, the story rapidly picks up pace and continues to grow in intensity until the end of the game. With the exception of the first two levels, Modern Warfare 3 tells a thrilling, dramatic, and emotional story that flows beautifully from one level into the next. This game concludes the Modern Warfare series, and I felt satisfied by the end. Modern Warfare 3 returns to the roots of Modern Warfare 1 and improves on all of the shortcomings of Modern Warfare 2.

It would be best to pretend that Modern Warfare 2 never even existed. Honestly, I think this game was written to erase MW2 from the series. Modern Warfare 3 has only a SINGLE reference to MW2, which is the airport level that was terrorized by Makarov. The hunt for Makarov and the Russian invasion stemmed from that event is all that's relevant to the MW3 story. Nothing else matters…literally. On the other hand, Modern Warfare 1 is a TOTALLY different story. MW3 is so closely tied to the events of MW1 that it continuously refers back to multiple events of the game, and EXPANDS on them! The writers did a fantastic job at tying the two games together.

You sir have raised my interest in this game from a 1 to a 4 and a half. CoD 4 had an incredible story and part of me really wants to see how it ends. I presume you're talking about the PC version, correct? If so, how's the multiplayer?

[Nero]

Wrong. It's Sam Worthington. He played Mason in Black Ops. RIP for Andy Whitefield, though. :( I want him back as Spartacus.

Oshi, no way....
Thanks for the correction. Yea, I dont know if I want to watch the other Spartacus's yet because Andy isn't in them.

[arbiter901]

http://www.pcgamer.com/2011/11/07/thieves-hijack-a-truckload-full-of-modern-warfare-3/

[TeeKup]

blpe_sGnnP4

[Amit]

Downloading now. I hope the campaign is as good as jfap says it is.

[Mr Buckshot]

My mate pirated it for Xbox 360. After he was done, I took my turn and played the campaign on his console - got to say it was entertaining, but nothing special. We might try the co-op in split screen later on.

I did the same with MW2 - just shared a friend's console copy. I don't plan on ever buying COD, on any system, unless the multiplayer goes back to the COD4 standard. Bought Black Ops for PC when it was 25% off, seriously regret it.

P.S.

Price and Soap are gay lovers

[jcap]

Well I'll say this...

The story could be better. I mean, there's always room for improvement. However, the comparison to MW2 is night and day. In fact, I think the story is better than most other games. So, it's not a mind blowing amazing story that you may see in some more cinematic-like games, however it is very entertaining and it concludes the current story better than I could have hoped.

[Mr Buckshot]

Agreed, the plot of MW3 totally blows away MW2's. But it's not enough to make up for the rest of what's in the folder/disc.

Do the gaming standards a favour and avoid buying except maybe on sale or a used console copy. If you do, at the very least don't support the $15 map packs, especially on PC where "DIY DLC" ability is something that is far from unreasonable to expect. Even console gamers need to stop being such blind sheep and realize that paid DLC should just be a digital version of the good old "expansion pack" days. Not something that reflects less effort/creativity than a mod, or worse, was created and then withheld on purpose from release.

[Amit]

Wow, just wow:

b5dsOn06w1s

[Nero]

Haha...

[Kornman00]

And yet HA10 has still to be pirated. Amazing.

Also, so they recycled a building. Let me know when you find more than 10 repeated structures in the game, then we can all "wow" together. Until then, whatever.

[jcap]

Also, Activision shipped the dedicated server with the game omgomgogmogmgomgogmg

e: WHAT A SICK FUCKING JOKE

http://sledgehammergames.com/assets/library/gallery/113/953_medium.jpg

By default, DEDICATED SERVERS ARE DISABLED from your main menu.

Also, unranked.

Also, Facebook wtf?

[Amit]

If they recycled one, there will definitely be more.

[Limited]

And yet HA10 has still to be pirated. Amazing.

Also, so they recycled a building. Let me know when you find more than 10 repeated structures in the game, then we can all "wow" together. Until then, whatever.
The entire UI is from MW2, the menu system only has a new colour scheme but the rest is exactly the same, same wording same positions, the general boring unchanged crap.

MW3 = Money Wasted 3rd time.

I used to like COD games, I remember playing the COD 1 PC demo from a magazine I bought, I loved it.

[Amit]

MW3 = Money Wasted 3rd time.

:( I was going to post that. Well, Just Money Wasted 3.

[Kornman00]

As promised:

Wow, just wow.

[jcap]

The entire UI is from MW2, the menu system only has a new colour scheme but the rest is exactly the same, same wording same positions, the general boring unchanged crap.

MW3 = Money Wasted 3rd time.

I used to like COD games, I remember playing the COD 1 PC demo from a magazine I bought, I loved it.
What was the first time? COD3?


Also, about the UI...

Yeah, it's pretty embarrassing IMO. Like I said in my initial review, MW3 didn't even make use of the engine enhancements for Black Ops. I can't believe they used the same main menu for this game as in MW2.

[Kornman00]

Sounds like the CoD franchise needs to lay off the ex-lax for a year or two and focus on actually eating healthy. And by that I mean giving attention to the entire engine instead of just bits and pieces. Then do another game.

And by another game I mean something not called CoD.

[Mr Buckshot]

The entire UI is from MW2, the menu system only has a new colour scheme but the rest is exactly the same, same wording same positions, the general boring unchanged crap.

MW3 = Money Wasted 3rd time.

I used to like COD games, I remember playing the COD 1 PC demo from a magazine I bought, I loved it.

shit, you're right. It didn't occur to me at first as I only played MW2 once so I didn't recognize the UI. Now after some youtubing, I realized it's really a carbon copy.

Come on, at least Black Ops had a pretty creative UI. I liked how it was possible to get out of the chair and then launch the Alien Swarm style minigame.

The one "good" thing I've heard from PC gamers who got the game is that it runs exactly as well as COD4 and MW2 did, since it doesn't have the buggy enhancements that Black Ops incorporated. Even the sandy bridge Intel IGP is able to push it without looking too bad. But then again, that should have been expected from the day the game was announced.

[ODX]

Um, hello...why isn't anyone bitching about the reuse of the same animations for the 3rd time now?

Seriously, I'm getting sick of seeing the same fucking AK-47 animations.

[Kornman00]

I'm tired of seeing the same fucking AK-47s

In all games.

[Nero]

I'm tired of seeing the same fucking AK-47s

In all games.
This.
haha. BF3 makes the AK sexy though.

[Donut]

walked by some people playing this game on my floor today. i had to stop and look for a second to see which cod it was, because honestly i couldnt tell if it was cod 4, mw2, or mw3.

[TVTyrant]

Great job Activison, big success!

http://www.mediaite.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/Borat.jpg

[MXC]

Um, hello...why isn't anyone bitching about the reuse of the same animations for the 3rd time now?

Seriously, I'm getting sick of seeing the same fucking AK-47 animations.

I'm tired of seeing that damned button on the side of the M16/M4. I've seen the helmetcam footage, as well as spoken to former members of the Army and navy. It's hardly, if ever used.

[Kornman00]

Damned button on the side of the M16/M4? Are you talking about the magazine release button lol?

[MXC]

Damned button on the side of the M16/M4? Are you talking about the magazine release button lol?

Magazine release button, keep forgetting the name. But yeah, I can't find anyone who actually used it.

[PenGuin1362]

Not to steer into gun talk too much here but the magazine release is on the right side, and you need to push it to release the magazine. You're probably referring to the bolt catch and you absolutely have to press that once the last round in the chamber has been fired. Otherwise your bolt just stays back once you put a new magazine in. Only time you don't need to press that is when the bolt is already closed and there's no bullet in the chamber. In that case you have to pull the charging handle.
>.> sorry for gun rant.

Anyone hear/feel anything about multiplayer, is it even remotely good?

[Pooky]

walked by some people playing this game on my floor today. i had to stop and look for a second to see which cod it was, because honestly i couldnt tell if it was cod 4, mw2, or mw3.

CoD 4 doesn't really look that similar to MW2 tbqh... MW2 is a lot shinier and flashier.

[Donut]

yeah i know, i kind of thought about that a couple minutes after posting... still though, when the guy is running around with a p90 thats been in all 3 games, sometimes its a little difficult to tell... the sound effects are all still the same.

[Amit]

I think he's talking about the Forward Assist Plunger (http://www.icsbb.com/edm/m4/images/spring/8.JPG), guys. Not the magazine release and not the bolt catch. The bolt catch doesn't look like a button anyways. If I understand correctly, the forward assist is supposed to make sure the bolt is seated properly.

[TVTyrant]

The forward assist is on the right side of the firearm, as the picture shows. It was added before Vietnam because sometimes rounds don't fully lock into battery after the charging handle is released. This means the gun will not fire. Most units are instructed to hit the forward assist only when the gun is malfunctioning. Its really kind of useless.

[Ki11a_FTW]

Is anyone else having problems with the PC version of the game? Mine is just crashing as soon as i launch the game and im starting to get really pissed.

[Amit]

I'm running a cracked version and it works great. Of course, I can't play online, though. I expect that to change in the future, but why waste my time with it when there's BF3 to be played?:D

[Mr Buckshot]

I'm running a cracked version and it works great. Of course, I can't play online, though. I expect that to change in the future, but why waste my time with it when there's BF3 to be played?:D

Another of my friends has a legit Steam copy. I just tried it out of curiosity. The dedi servers (which are unranked only btw) are extremely unstable and I couldn't stay on one for more than 2 minutes without getting a timeout. The P2P ranked matches are more stable, but I can definitely feel the lag and rubberbanding, plus there's no custom rules to ban the overpowered shit.

You're not missing out if you can't play this game online. If you really must play MW3 multiplayer, do split screen on a console.