so i just upgraded from a 2500k to a 2600k and now something is angry

[Donut]

i had an i5-2500k, and i just replaced it with an i7-2600k. the system was working fine before i did anything, but now the computer refuses to stay on for more than a few seconds. the first time i turned it on with he i7, windows installed the drivers for the i7 and it was working just fine. i jumped into bad company 2 for a few minutes to see how it performed. it was all good for about 10 to 15 minutes, then i attempted to pick the computer up and turn it rightside. as soon as i picked it up the computer instantly shut down. after i got it back into windows, it was ok for a few minutes, but then the computer froze completely. i held down the power button to shut it off, then when i turned it back on, fans started spinning and it sounded like the components were powering up, but the computer didnt get to the bios i dont think. it shut itself off and then tried to boot again. if i let it sit for a little while it can boot into windows, but then it freezes after a minute or so and the whole thing starts over again. this leads me to believe its a temperature issue.

the bios also said something about overclocking failed. i think it was referring to the ram, because the mobo defaulted to 1333 back when i built the system, and i set the ram's frequency to 1600. i have an asus sabertooth p67 mobo with all those red fault lights, and the red light stops near the ram. so im thinking the ram is the culprit.

what do?

parts:
i7-2600k
sabertooth p67
8gb DDR3-1600
gtx560ti

E: and i dont want to talk about why i did this upgrade. i just want to fix the problem.

[=sw=warlord]

CPU heatsink may be loose.
More to the point...you tried moving a pc whilst switched on??

[Donut]

^ i know. i was thinking "i should probably turn this off..." too, thats the worst part.

i dont think the heatsink is loose. before i tried to move it i was checking cpu temps with speccy. it was idling at ~40C, got up to 67 while playing bad company 2, then vented right back down to 40. im pretty sure i just fucked something up moving it. im just not sure what.

[StankBacon]

check all your connections.

clear your cmos to go to bios defaults.

[Donut]

well, im pretty sure ive isolated it down to the ram. ive tested each stick in one slot, and one stick in each slot, then two sticks in each of their slots (beige), then three sticks. all configurations, no problems. as soon as i put all 4 in, the thing refuses to boot up.

also cleared the cmos. didnt help
E: to be clear, shit hit the fan when i physically picked up the computer while it was on, if that helps identifying the problem.

[Warsaw]

Sounds like a loose 24-pin power plug. Hate those things.

[Zeph]

You probably scratched the disks in your RAM. You know how a 360 can eat up a DVD if you move it while it's on? Same thing and it is why laptops are so expensive. Worst case, the vibrations shorted out your motherboard sockets.

[Warsaw]

You mean HDD?

[Donut]

went and picked my i5 back up, popped the i5 back in, put all the ram sticks back in, did a cmos reset on the mobo, and it booted just fine. i set the ram speed to 1600 and the voltage to 1.65, and it got into windows. speccy reports BELOW average temps, system still hasnt frozen yet (and i suspect it wont), and bad company 2 runs just fine. at this point i am forced to conclude that the issue is in the i7, whether its an incompatibility between the i7, ram, and mobo, or an issue within the i7 itself.

but, ive got my computer back up and running, so at least ill sleep soundly tonight.

if i have the time tomorrow, im going to experiment with this i7 and see whats going on with it.

[StankBacon]

maybe you need to update your bios..


SABERTOOTH-P67 BIOS 2103
2011.12.14
1. Improve memory compatibility
2. Improve system stability

[ThePlague]

And it's usually a good idea to reinstall windows when you change a CPU or any core component.

[=sw=warlord]

That's not likely to be it.
Chances are when he moved his system something came loose, only thing he can do and go one by one with the cables and double check it all and hope he didn't break something whilst moving it switched on.

[Warsaw]

And it's usually a good idea to reinstall windows when you change a CPU or any core component.

I swapped out my AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and its motherboard and associated DDR1 RAM and GeForce 7800GT for a Core 2 Duo E4500 and its motherboard and associated DDR2 RAM with Radeon X1800XT.

You just have to be smart and uninstall drivers before doing any swaps.

[Donut]

its still working fine with the i5. ill try updating the bios later when i start playing around with the i7 again

[{XG}Gijs007]

its still working fine with the i5. ill try updating the bios later when i start playing around with the i7 again
Try the I7 in a different pc, chances are it might be broken and you have to rma it.
Might be the onboard memory controller that is broken in your I7, as your motherboard is reporting memory issues but everything is fine with the I5.

And no you don't have to reinstall windows when upgrading from the same platform, although I believe you have to run some commands in a cmd window to redetect the cpu and its performance when the ammount of cores change.

[Donut]

a friend of mine tried the i7 in his machine. he said it worked fine. i dont have the specs of it and i dont know how extensively he tested it though.

also, hard to rma a technically stolen processor...:v:
friend of a friend works at a computer store that will not be named. found the i7 in a box of 10$ pentium processors and kind of just moonwalked out of the store with it. was in sealed original packaging, so nobody else used it but me and my friend.

[Cortexian]

Yeah that's stolen. Someone dumbass merchendising guy stuck it in the box that looked like it vaguely belonged there.

[Amit]

FAIL.

[Zeph]

What are your voltages set to?

[Donut]

^ i still havent played around with it yet. honestly the more time goes by, the less inclined i am to open my computer back up again. im kind of nervous something might break, and that would be a tragedy for a basement dweller like myself. ill jot all that stuff down if i put the i7 back in at some point.

they were all whatever the default mobo voltages are if that helps. its an asus sabertooth p67. only thing i set myself was the ram speed to 1600 and the voltage to 1.65 because thats what they're supposed to be set to according to the labels on the ram.

[Warsaw]

I do have to ask:

Why are you upgrading from a Core i5-2500K to a Core i7-2600K? Is there any feature on the i7 that you would actually benefit from? The i5-2500K is already pretty fantastic.

[neuro]

because he can. like he said, it's a stolen processor.

[Warsaw]

I already got that. However, every time you tinker with something, you risk breaking it. Are the potential benefits worth the risk?

[neuro]

good question.

i've got another one:
i'm moving from paris to rome.
how the hell do i safely UPS-ship my PC to myself? :P

[Warsaw]

Sell it, a kidney, and build a new one when you get to Rome.

:D

[Cortexian]

My first recommendation would be to not use UPS.

[Zeph]

good question.

i've got another one:
i'm moving from paris to rome.
how the hell do i safely UPS-ship my PC to myself? :P
A lot of paper scrunched up into balls. I'd suggest taking thinks like the CPU heatsink and PCI cards out for separate packaging. Just make sure everything is securely seated before turning it back on. It won't be that bad to ship it, but you've just got to consider the worst that could happen. I mean, Dell ships billions in OEM machines annually and they don't run into problems.

If you're taking a train to Rome, just take it with you.

[Donut]

I already got that. However, every time you tinker with something, you risk breaking it. Are the potential benefits worth the risk?
the hyperthreading was the main thing i wanted

[neuro]

A lot of paper scrunched up into balls. I'd suggest taking thinks like the CPU heatsink and PCI cards out for separate packaging. Just make sure everything is securely seated before turning it back on. It won't be that bad to ship it, but you've just got to consider the worst that could happen. I mean, Dell ships billions in OEM machines annually and they don't run into problems.

If you're taking a train to Rome, just take it with you.

yeah i figured this is what i was going to do.

i was going to take off my cpu sink anyway, since it's like a 1.2 Kg thing (lol)
HOW i'm going to get there, i'm not sure yet, but i'm not going to take it on train (it's one of those big coolermaster HAF cases hehe)

[Warsaw]

Oh shit, that was a serious question? I thought we were still messing around, sorry about that.

:gonk:

I would take the expansion cards and place them into their original boxes while leaving the CPU and its HSF alone in the computer case, along with stuffed paper. I don't think it's necessary to remove the HSF. If they are heavy enough to damage the motherboard, they usually also have extra robust mountings to prevent such from happening. Unlike expansion cards, which are incredibly flimsy and make me worry all the time (looking at you, graphics bricks).

[=sw=warlord]

I would remove the expansions and heatsink and stuff them into some sort of protective box with foam.
Same with the HDD, last thing you need is the HDD having it's spindle fucked because of rough movements from the handling.
Remember there's a reason couriers ask that you secure your items tightly.