Brute Spiker Rifle (NEW ONE) D:

[DaneO'Roo]

K, this isn't finished yet, and the main reason for that, is because I've been asking people ALL FRIGIN DAY (since 9 am, tis now 6 pm fyi) to get me a good side shot of the spiker in 3rd person, on the ground. There are details in the side of the gun that are indented so you cannot see in them in first person.

Note: The gun doesn't have a normal, specular or any other map YET that the halo 3 one has, so don't go "ZOMG ITS NAWT SHINEE LAIK THE HALO 3 ONE" on me k? In good time. You can also see a slight uvw wireframe over the texture, because I have the uvw as a transparent layer over the top, and there are parts that are allready coloured that aren't finished yet. The entire texture is subject to refining before I consider it finished.

First I'll highlight the areas I cannot see and hopefully one of those lucky people who got the beta can get off their royal asses and get me one little screenshot.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3003/brutespikerexamplezm3.jpg

^ I need a picture of the gun in the same view as that one. Dead side on so I can see the side panel with screws thats indented away from sight (the grey area in the middle). It needs to be 3rd person, preferablly not being held by another player (so I can see the trigger area) and well lit sitting on the ground so I can see the areas I can't see at the moment.

Also, the clip will be on a seperate uv map, its just got a lambert shader on it now so don't start going "WTF WHAI IS IT GRAY".

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/2196/brutespikersh6.jpg
http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/5759/brutespiker1stpersonviesc4.jpg


and yes, it will be in SPV2, replacing the old spiker tags (wich Masterz is also redoing)

The old spiker tags may be released open source. I'm not sure, I remember Masterz talking about it. Don't hold me on that one.

[Bad Waffle]

I'll be the first one to say...

Why aren't you working for me yet? ;D

I am really amazed by how fast you picked up photoshop...i've been trying for a few months, but i never get taht far D: I guess im just not as determined as you. But hey, you know photoshop like i know max. Props.

[kungpow]

hawt

[DaneO'Roo]

I'll be the first one to say...

Why aren't you working for me yet? ;D

I am really amazed by how fast you picked up photoshop...i've been trying for a few months, but i never get taht far D: I guess im just not as determined as you. But hey, you know photoshop like i know max. Props.

tru dat :P

and LOL AT UR SIG

[Bodzilla]

Nice sig hahaha

Looking good bro +rep :D

[teh lag]

Good sir, I do believe that the skin yonder is awesome.

[demonmaster3k]

you're missing a few details (yea i do know that there are a lack of bottom pics tho...gotta use imagination till real h3 come out)
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.xbox360fanboy.com/media/2007/03/spikermain.jpg
the white cylanders that you have on the bottom missing detail... you still did a good job (much better than what i can do atm) but the above pics you posted are either wip or need to go back and fix pics

nice spiker skin tho +rep because i find replicating halo 3 a hard taks

[Elite Killa]

How about making completely custom details?

Looks nice btw.

[Sunray]

How about making completely custom details?I'm with Elite. Make the spiker your own. Put little details not in the H3 one on it. Try not to be limited by what bungie do. As it is, it looks really good though. Another great skin from Dane.

[teh lag]

How about making completely custom details?

:bandwagon:

[Aklass]

the old spiker projectiles are wrong also in betalicious when he thorughs the trip mine and the grenade the guy attacking him had dual spikers pause at 2:07

[Masterz1337]

Yeah, I know, It's alot more fun to use in H3. Specialy when you double up with a PR. The whole spiker is getting redone, now that we have the h3 beta.

[DaneO'Roo]

you're missing a few details (yea i do know that there are a lack of bottom pics tho...gotta use imagination till real h3 come out)
http://www.blogsmithmedia.com/www.xbox360fanboy.com/media/2007/03/spikermain.jpg
the white cylanders that you have on the bottom missing detail... you still did a good job (much better than what i can do atm) but the above pics you posted are either wip or need to go back and fix pics

nice spiker skin tho +rep because i find replicating halo 3 a hard taks



"but the above pics you posted are either wip or need to go back and fix pics"

Did you even read what I said in the first post. At all? NO SHIT ITS A WIP, I SAID THAT. Also, fix the pictures?

"the white cylanders that you have on the bottom missing detail... you still did a good job"

ok, what white cylinders, please if your meaning the discs on the blades, its all their buddy, look again. The white lines underneath the rings in that picture, are caused by light, i'm not skinning those in. Infact theres extra rust detail there on mine.

But if by white cylinder your refering to the clip:

:fail: you should read threads more

/annoyed

"because i find replicating halo 3 a hard taks"

exactly, wtf have you done? I don't recall seeing you ever make anything remotely artistic anywhere.

"(much better than what i can do atm)"

at the moment. Funny words, because I highly doubt you could do anything of the like in ANY moment.

Please read the damn thread next time, ok?


ok, and to the people who are saying, make your own details. I'm going for accuracy. If wan't to make a custom one, I'll do that later. If you guys wan't to put flames on your warthogs and stars on your Assault rifles in Halo PC, thats fine by me, but don't expect me to do that.


I'm also not doing my blades the same as bungies, because I simply don't like them. When the spiker is finished, I'll make a different coloured varient with loads of extra details for all you CUSTOM CUSTOM CUSTOM bandwagoners. Please, making this shit is hard, I put a great deal of effort into it, to make sure all you people will enjoy it and then to have it spat back in my face because It's not original is kind of annoying. This spiker will be used in Halo 3 mods designed for total accuracy. So i'm doing it accurately.

[Pred1ator]

the holes on the blade need to be darker, unless thats the multi doing it

[Tenma Kouu]

well i think its coming out just fine. Just add little sexy bump map and you got yourself a very sexy beast.

[DaneO'Roo]

Prediator theres no multi on it in that render. its a render, this is not ingame yet. This is what people are forgetting, the Halo 3 spiker has a glow, specular and normal map on it, while mine currently has none, just the base texture. Read. the. thread. I'm also well aware that it needs to be darker, I'm just doing the basic texturing for now, but I need references on the side to finish it. I'll tweak all the levels for all the layers later.

[Syuusuke]

[http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/ryujin356/mbmb.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y176/ryujin356/probably.jpg

No bottom shots

basically the round part is the same color as the rest of the spiker.

[Pred1ator]

Prediator theres no multi on it in that render. its a render, this is not ingame yet. This is what people are forgetting, the Halo 3 spiker has a glow, specular and normal map on it, while mine currently has none, just the base texture. Read. the. thread. I'm also well aware that it needs to be darker, I'm just doing the basic texturing for now, but I need references on the side to finish it. I'll tweak all the levels for all the layers later.

jesus u take evrything i say seriously, i ment if the multi "ingame" was going to make the holes on the blade darker..yeesh i know spiker has a glow..who doesnt

btw its pred-one-ator

[Aklass]

i wonder if u will open source this spiker

and will u ever fix up spartan laser to be more h3?

[ExAm]

I say the magazine is a bit large. True, the one on the actual spiker isn't that convincing, capacity-wise, but it looks better when it's flush with the rest of the weapon. Besides, since when has bungie realistically loaded their magazines? Think H1 AR. That magazine is in no way large enough to hold 60 7.62 caliber rounds. I dunno, maybe there's a white hole in the bottom of it?

It could also be that the spiker's magazine is a tank of molten metal, which is drawn up into the gun and fired as a solid projectile. Science behind the Needler, anyone?

[Aklass]

I say the magazine is a bit large. True, the one on the actual spiker isn't that convincing, capacity-wise, but it looks better when it's flush with the rest of the weapon. Besides, since when has bungie realistically loaded their magazines? Think H1 AR. That magazine is in no way large enough to hold 60 7.62 caliber rounds. I dunno, maybe there's a white hole in the bottom of it?

It could also be that the spiker's magazine is a tank of molten metal, which is drawn up into the gun and fired as a solid projectile. Science behind the Needler, anyone?

halo takes place in the future anything can happen =p. maybe rounds get smaller in the magazine and expand when shot

[Patrickssj6]

I would give it a multipurpose maps on the spike things.So in game it's shiny and look more deadly when it reflects light.

[Aklass]

it should look more like the spiker proj in betalicious no blue trails and spikes dont stick! also spikes are orange redish

[Masterz1337]

Spiker contrails had a light volume in the brute vidoc. I've been working on making our spiker to the real game since I got the beta. You guys will all :XD: when you use it.

[Aklass]

ill be the judge of that hehe

[Pred1ator]

ill be the judge of that hehe

....o..k...

[Aklass]

lol i was just kidding

[TPE]

the spiker was ok before IMO, but whatever floats your boat

personally i would like to see a H3 PR

[Hurrvish]

im pretty sure they revised the spiker after the interactive mov with the spiker wireframe came out

[Aklass]

yea the h3 pr looks sweet and cmt's ar is out of date because it doesnt look much like h3 ar anymore.

Edit: a vid for help with refrence http://youtube.com/watch?v=Ja3GtQ8zcp4

[Haloking365]

Wow, DANO, you never cease to amaze me. Im with elite, do Bungies textures, and then just go nuts with your own details. Make it look BETTER than Halo 3's. Good luck and keep up the good work.

[Tweek]

But hey, you know photoshop like i know max. Props.

omg, how can you tell him he fails @ photoshop?

thats not a bad skin he made! :O

[Haloking365]

and will u ever fix up spartan laser to be more h3?
Yes, its going to be fixed, halo 3 style.

[BigText]

What the hell is with people begging him to make it custom? He's making the H3 spiker, and so he is going to make the H3 spiker.

Anyway, I can't really make any suggestions that wouldn't be stating the obvious, but that's really good work man, keep it up.

[Pred1ator]

What the hell is with people begging him to make it custom? we are not begging we are asking......

[Btd69]

omg, how can you tell him he fails @ photoshop?

thats not a bad skin he made! :O
Hahahahahahaha. I miss you Tweekie, MSN me pics of your sister again :(

[DaneO'Roo]

Lol


When I finish It i'm going to make a black and red one (black with red lights) but it's going to look much different to the normal spiker, loads different details and such. But I still need side ref pics from halo 3.....

[Pred1ator]

Lol


When I finish It i'm going to make a black and red one (black with red lights) but it's going to look much different to the normal spiker, loads different details and such. But I still need side ref pics from halo 3.....

cool looking forward to the red/black spiker..see? even dano agrees to make a custom one

[Haloking365]

When I finish It i'm going to make a black and red one (black with red lights) but it's going to look much different to the normal spiker, loads different details and such.
Thats gonna look sooooooooo sick. Is it going to have a red muzzleflash? And it should have animated blood dripping off the blade. Ooo, my evil side is coming into my writing now:D.

[DaneO'Roo]

I hate to inflate my ego here, but my customed up spiker looks better than bungies one. Not so much the colour is better, since tha's personal preference, just the extra details. More lights and lines and grooves and slits and stuff.


Also, unless anyone objects, I'm thinking of making the halo 3 Rocket Launcher and PR. Just cuz I want to. They look shiny. Though, I doub't I'll be able to improve on them any further, seeing as bungie has tried the same, and they've pretty much done the best that can be done to bring a new look to those old favs. I will try though. Also you people don't seem to realise my CMT ar isn't the halo 3 one. It's loosely based on it, but the handle and that is much different, and I originally had the grip as a rubber material, like the halo 1 AR, and not metal like the halo 3 one, plus theres some other stuff on the halo 3 one i didn't want on ours.

[AAA]

I hate to inflat emy ego here, but my custom spiker looks better than bungies one. Not the colour, the extra details.

I actually agree with that. :x

[Masterz1337]

H3 PR =:lol: :lol: :lol:

I can't take my eyes off it ingame. The lightning effects and the bloom and everything in h3 is just outstanding.

[Pred1ator]

yours look rather "low res" compared to bungies....but w/e u say

[DaneO'Roo]

LOL

incase you haven't noticed, halo 3 s one is actually quite low res, it looks about 512, it's the normal maps that give it more detail. You'd know that if you actually looked at it in a screenshot. It's not uberly detailed, it's just shiny. It doesn't matter though, because 90 percent of the time your away from the tv screen playing. With PC games your right up to the screen, so detail counts, and I've packed as much detail into a diffuse skin for the resolution im at as is possible. Anymore texture and it's just goign to get worse, tbh. There is such a thing as overtexturing something, you need to know your limits sometimes.


You haven't even seen mine with a specular and normal map yet. Don't judge mine on the halo 3 one yet when it's not in even playing fields. I said that in the first post, in case you forgot to read that part.

Oh, and don't make me bring up that "Hi Def pistol" skin you made for halo PC
XD

[Aklass]

pr looks longer in h3

[Pred1ator]

LOL

incase you haven't noticed, halo 3 s one is actually quite low res, it looks about 512

that still doesnt change the fact that i think your spiker skin is low res..i think bungies is at least 10% better than yours...

but i cant complain now, show me the spiker ingame will all skins and details done and we will see which is better

high def pistol skin? what the hell you talking about?

[mech]

Excellent for sodomising eachother

[Pred1ator]

jesus i think Dano and Me are rivals now >.>

[DaneO'Roo]

Do you even read?


Bungies Spiker:

Diffuse, Specular, Parralax normal (most likely) and most likely a detail map. OH and a glow map =3

Mine so far:

Diffuse


please, know what your talking about. You cannot judge the halo 3 one to mine in a standard Maya render as opposed to in game with fully dynamic lighting and shader effects.


and we are not rivals, we are FAR apart, don't even consider yourself close, Mr Imakesigs


"high def pistol skin? what the hell you talking about?"

forgotten your own gross skin have we? Look for the topic you made about it on halomods or watever.

[Aklass]

will spiker have 3rd person anims?

[Reaper Man]

that still doesnt change the fact that i think your spiker skin is low res..i think bungies is at least 10% better than yours...
Possibly because the textures are done by professionals who do it for a living and have been doing so for years. I find it quite amazing that Dane has managed to get so far in such a short amount of time.

[Pred1ator]

Possibly because the textures are done by professionals who do it for a living and have been doing so for years. I find it quite amazing that Dane has managed to get so far in such a short amount of time.

imo i find the professionals work better, danos work is nothing compared to what bungie can do

[Aklass]

lol u shud get CAD to help hes great with photoshop

[Reaper Man]

...No fucking shit, they are called professionals for a reason. Your logic is flawed. Also, keep in mind that Dane does all his texturing without a tablet, now that is fucking insane.

[mech]

urs sucks halo 3 one is ingame >:D

[DaneO'Roo]

No shit sherlock


okay, tahts 2 times yo havent read.

Halo 3 = lolgraphics

My shitty maya render = lolshitty


HAlo 3 Spiker = diffuse specualr normal map possibly detail map and glow map

My one = Diffuse

YOU CANNOT JUDGE

yet, when I have got those same things aplied to mine, then you can dish it all you want.


oh and thank you reaper, for telling <3

I dont use a tablet, cuz I'm pov xD Mouse ftw!

[Aklass]

you guys should let him finish before you start posting crap

[Pred1ator]

ok mr.skinner get the spec, normal map, detail map, and glow map in and prove me wrong....

[Reaper Man]

ok mr.skinner get the spec, normal map, detail map, and glow map in and prove me wrong....
You know what? Let's see you do better. *pulls out Intuos 3 tablet to piss off Dane*

[mech]

Because being a critic means you have the necessary skills to do what you're critiquing.

[Pred1ator]

You know what? Let's see you do better. *pulls out Intuos 3 tablet to piss off Dane*

you dont have to be a good skinner in order to criticize some one.

i am just leaving my opinion on your skin and u go crazy

edit: thanks mech ill +rep u later, too much rep giving over 24 hours

[CtrlAltDestroy]

lol u shud get CAD to help hes great with photoshop

:smith:

[Pred1ator]

aklass actually thought u made those h2 skins....wow

[ExAm]

Diffuse, Specular, Parralax normal (most likely) and most likely a detail map. OH and a glow map =3
"Parallax" :eng101:


you dont have to be a good skinner in order to criticize some one.

i am just leaving my opinion on your skin and u go crazy

edit: thanks mech ill +rep u later, too much rep giving over 24 hours
Two words:
HALO ENGINE

[Pred1ator]

"Parallax" :eng101:


Two words:
HALO ENGINE


I dont get it? :confused:

[ExAm]

Using the Halo engine to render a Halo 3 spiker is like a Dalek trying to climb stairs. There are limitations. Don't criticize the skin. It's a shaderless render. Even when it gets into halo, it'll still suck compared to the one in Halo 3, simply because of the Halo engine's capabilities, or lack thereof.

[DaneO'Roo]

You know what, Pred,I think your just pissing me off on purpose, because it makes you feel somewhat Important. But in all seriousness now, I think you've had enough fun, so for your sake, until you can learn to read, consider yourself officially ignored.

Just remember this:

The halo 3 spiker is in a situation which far more compliments it's assets. It is literally covered with several different kinds of visual enhancing shaders and is existing in a graphics engine that far more compliments those assets while mine CURRENTLY does not have those assets, save the basic coloured texture, and 2 ambient lights in a scene in Maya.

Theres also the small detail that I happened to mention in my first post, had you bothered to read, that said MINE ISN'T FREAKING FINISHED YET.

Wich was the whole point of me making this thread. I need a reference pic of the side, and decided to show what I had so far to give people incentive to want me to finish it. It.Is.Not.Finished.
I'm all for you judging it once I've considered it finished, in fact, I welcome it, for it only helps me grow. But until then, learn more about what you think you know and quit hassling me because I said that one crappy little pistol skin you filtered together was bad. I will not sugar coat. It was bad, and it was finished. I can't call this skin bad or good at the moment, I'm just asking you to quit ignoring facts.

[Btd69]

The skin is bad, end of story.














































Hahahahahaha, s2 dano :D

[DaneO'Roo]

I love you hunny bunny :)

[TPE]

i will be a sport and look for side shots of the spiker




<3

http://i54.photobucket.com/albums/g98/TPE_NS/MAWRSPIKR.jpg

[AAA]

Hope this goes well. I , sadly, can't get you any pictures....but, I can just hope for the best in your work. Which always comes out great, might I add ;)

[JDMFSeanP]

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/787/787723/halo-3-20070511004945400.jpg

It looks just black, that image might help with the overall skin as well.

BTW Dano you are roxorz at skins.

[madworkz]

http://xbox360media.ign.com/xbox360/image/article/787/787723/halo-3-20070511004945400.jpg

It looks just black, that image might help with the overall skin as well.

BTW Dano you are roxorz at skins.

Yeah, dano im using just two refrence shots to skin this...not done wip.

http://madworkzstudio.com/halo/turret.jpg
http://madworkzstudio.com/halo/chaingun.jpg

[DaneO'Roo]

HOLY SHIT THREADJACKED

and GTF ON AIM NOW D: I miss you :(


skin needs a bit of work, but I know it's a wip and wil be made of both win and pwn.

Nice shit D:

One thing I'd suggest is try some underlying transparent layers with slight orange and stuff hues, get a slight colour variation in there. Also, you might wanna tone down the sharpen filter look a bit, and sort of turn the white scrape edge on the front more broken up, instead of a perfect white line. Looking really good. I've love to see you have a crack at making the lolhueg missle pod :d

[DaneO'Roo]

hey SeanP, thanks for that pic, it's a much bigger one of the one i allready had, but I can kinda see what I was after now :D

*edit* well actualy its still too dark but its better than the other refs i had.

shit didn't know I double posted :X

[n00b1n8R]

needs more green on teh barel things.

but otherwise..
:iia:
(i love this thing ^)


Using the Halo engine to render a Halo 3 spiker is like a Dalek trying to climb stairs.

In the new Doctor Who, Dalek's don't need to climb stairs. they can fly!

[Dole]

edit: thanks mech ill +rep u later, too much rep giving over 24 hours
NO ONE GIVES A SHIT.

[TPE]

and hopefully this time MC doesnt go lol-emo on the spiker :awesome:

[DaneO'Roo]

^ oh snap, I get it =3

[Snaver]

High res you say :lol:

1884x858
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5812/halo3spartanredspikerifdt1.png

[TIA Gangsta]

Wow...that's pretty damn blurry at high-res, for a HD game.

[Edward Elrich]

Leave the portable turret alone. Since it was CMT's idea first (Bungie announced it in Halo 3 long after CMT said it would be in Halo CE) they can model it themselves. And let's also remember, this is Custom Map Team, not Halo 3 map team. You guys don't have to do everything the way it is in Halo 3. (as in, the models can be original, more than just the one for Spartan III's.)

[Dole]

Leave the portable turret alone. Since it was CMT's idea first (Bungie announced it in Halo 3 long after CMT said it would be in Halo CE) they can model it themselves.
Are you in the right thread?

[DaneO'Roo]

People need to go on and get off the fucking bandwagon. We make this shit because we wanted to, because its fun and we're increasing our skills trying to make the stuff the professionals have, and make it work and look just as good, if not aiming higher. You have no idea how different and fun halo 1 is with this new stuff in it. Spartan lasering down dropships and banshees, spikering flood, fighting brutes who don't give you a dam break, its just FUN, and thats why were doing this.

We are not Ripping map team, we obviously made the content ourselves, and at no point claimed right of idea.
We modelled, unwrapped skinned animated tagged and got ingame to a point where in comparable to other mods, we've done the job WELL, and that requires a HELL of a lot of work, work that you people don't seem to understand. I slave away at my PC till 2 am, making texture after texture, Teh Lag gives up free time to animate all day, people give up there free time to model for us and help us in all sorts of ways (i forget, theres too many of you to name) and masterz constantly has to cop everyones shit whenever someone doesn't like something we've made and though he doesn't physically create much, he gets us to get shit done, and is responsible for how things work in the game. He knows his HEK, and we need him. I'm in this for the whole team experience, we make our own models and skins and animations, from a few shitty little screenshots bungie release, and we do it well.

Just grow up, and if you don't like how we've put effort into our stuff, then don't play. Simple. I don't see people bitching about this sort of shit when h2ce was around, they were ripping bungies IP weren't they? They actualy didn't even come close to making the content in the quality we have achieved, and I don't mean that in an egotistical way, I mean that in an honest way. The maps were fun, but the weapons and bipeds looked like shit.

But see, no one cared, because it was about the FUN.

Where the fuck is the fun anymore? It's all serious competitive bullshit now.

HURR HURR MY GUN HAS MOAR POLYS THAN YOURS. HURH HUHR I HATE YOUR TEAM HURH HUHR CUZ YOUR DOING STUFF HURR HURR.

[TPE]

im fine with whatever CMT does

if you dont like what the do, then gtfo.

[BobtheGreatII]

Yeah, dano im using just two refrence shots to skin this...not done wip.

http://madworkzstudio.com/halo/turret.jpg
http://madworkzstudio.com/halo/chaingun.jpg
I think I love you......:eyesroll:

[DaneO'Roo]

Leave the portable turret alone. Since it was CMT's idea first (Bungie announced it in Halo 3 long after CMT said it would be in Halo CE) they can model it themselves. And let's also remember, this is Custom Map Team, not Halo 3 map team. You guys don't have to do everything the way it is in Halo 3. (as in, the models can be original, more than just the one for Spartan III's.)

Madworkz modelled that turret because he wanted to, for fun.

fucking S-I-M-P-L-E

I spose by everyones logic, he should throw out his AWESOME Atv, considering thats halo 3 stuff.

Oh shit, may as well stop caring about Black Mesa, stupid assholes stealing ideas form Half Life, who cares if they've made awesome stuff, thats not allowed


your all fucking biased, go and drink some tea, play some old school nintendo, remember a thing called "fun" and settle the fuck down.

[Syuusuke]

Dano and madworkz, I definitely look forward to your work in the near future.

[DaneO'Roo]

so do I =3

[AceParty]

i thinks it's too late now but if i can help
http://www.xboxygen.com/upload/Gallery/halo3181.jpg

[TeeKup]

Not one to irritate but I think your little ammo drum in the back (thats only an assumption) is too big.

[n00b1n8R]

fucking sigged.

[Limited]

Nice work on the spiker :D

Btw, CMT didnt make the HUD they show off in all the new screenshots. o that isnt custom.


Because being a critic means you have the necessary skills to do what you're critiquing.Huh, not always..

Football critic
Art critic
Book critic
Film critic.

etc etc

[FRain]

Yo, dano, I PMed you about this but could I psbly use this model for my H3 mod that is WIP at the moment? I just need the model and texture and I'll tag it.

[rossmum]

It's not Dane's model...

[demonmaster3k]

weapon modeling's not that hard with ref pics, what's wrong with making your own?

[ShadowCloud]

i got a question what about making the halo 3 sniper and putting it in SPv2

[teh lag]

No. There's no point in that.

[FRain]

You know how easy it is to make the H3 sniper? Yea, just make the H2 sniper with a green scope.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Then we'd have to model a Halo2 sniper. :rolleyes:

Also, the stock is different, as well as an added handgaurd on the grip and a mess of other minor details.

[AAA]

If it's so simple, why not do it?

Any new developemnt pictures on the new spiker?

[Masterz1337]

Why would we get rid of our current sniper, just to make one that looks like h3? This is not a H3 Mod.

[AAA]

I didn't mean for your team, I meant by anyone-make-the-H3-Sniper-if-it's-so-easy kind of way.

Wasn't saying it had to be added to any current project.

[Leiukemia]

Nice work on the spiker :D

Btw, CMT didnt make the HUD they show off in all the new screenshots. o that isnt custom.

Huh, not always..

Football critic
Art critic
Book critic
Film critic.

etc etc

Yes, but people who give critism on those for the public still have a good understanding of either the game, how a book is written, what makes a film good, etc. Nobodies going to listen to a bunch of people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. That whole arguement of "movie critics don't make movies" is bullshit. They wouldn't be critics if they didn't know what they were talking about, nobody would listen to them. And even as it is, who honestly cares what a movie critic has to say about anything.

[rossmum]

You know how easy it is to make the H3 sniper? Yea, just make the H2 sniper with a green scope.
It's blindingly obvious from that statement that you don't know the first thing about Halo 3. It's way different than just a new scope screen...


If it's so simple, why not do it?

Any new developemnt pictures on the new spiker?
Because making H3 stuff for CE is getting really old.


Why would we get rid of our current sniper, just to make one that looks like h3? This is not a H3 Mod.
Good.

[Pooky]

weapon modeling's not that hard with ref pics, what's wrong with making your own?

LOL

keeping up with current events I see

[ExAm]

Yes, but people who give critism on those for the public still have a good understanding of either the game, how a book is written, what makes a film good, etc. Nobodies going to listen to a bunch of people who don't know what the fuck they're talking about. That whole arguement of "movie critics don't make movies" is bullshit. They wouldn't be critics if they didn't know what they were talking about, nobody would listen to them. And even as it is, who honestly cares what a movie critic has to say about anything.
You're right, mostly. Personally, I think anyone has the right to say what they like and don't like about someone's work, within reason, but movie critics have more than just opinion. Personally, i have my opinions about a lot of things, including movies. That doesn't mean i'd make a good movie critic. Not that most movie critics don't suck already. I'd say there's a fifty-fifty chance that a critic's view reflects mine or any of my friends'.

[Haloking365]

Can everyone get back on topic? Even just a little? *Sigh*
Anyway; hows the skin coming Dane? Hope its goin good.

[Mr Buckshot]

Blades are good, but that white cylindrical thing appears to be unfinished.

[Haloking365]

Blades are good, but that white cylindrical thing appears to be unfinished.
Sorry to be captain obvious, but he said that in the 1st post. Please read next time;).

[Pooky]

Also, that's the magazine. xD

[Dole]

So?

[Pooky]

that white cylindrical thing appears to be unfinished.


that's the magazine. xD

<_<

[DaneO'Roo]

not finished, will finish once I'm more comfortable to take time away from greiving and such. I have a very good reference shot now, thanks to masterz <3

[ExAm]

Greiving? Did I miss something?

[Dole]

Look in his sig. Sorry, Dane.

[ExAm]

oh shi-

That sucks. Sorry about that.

[DaneO'Roo]

It hasn't even been a week, mate. She was my sister, who I grew up with, and lived with and ......fuck the way she died could have easily been prevented, just.....well, I'm not going to tell how she went on the forums, but lets just say I really hate her boyfriend and her boyfriends family.

But I am coping, but don't be an ass about it Pred. Have you ever seen your sister in a coma for 4 days and then watching her turn green/white and seeing her last breath? No more talk of this. Thanks to anyone who offers their condolences, but I'm fine.

[TeeKup]

This is a HALO forum about HALO...so how about we talk about HALO? Savvy?

Will the gun have the awesome heated rods sticking in the surface they hit for a few seconds?
Agreed. I'm looking forward to the gun Dano, since its coming from you I know it'll be top notch.

[Hurrvish]

Agreed. I'm looking forward to the gun Dano, since its coming from you I know it'll be top notch. Dano, put Elke on your skins from now on ;) (just a suggestion)

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Cleaning up this shit.

[Boba]

Cleaning up this shit.
dats straight east side rollin dog.

It looks good.

[Haloking365]

Hey DANO, any updates? Im really looking forward to the skin, from what you have now i know its gonna look awesome:D.

[DaneO'Roo]

Soon, almost finished, took me literally like....2 weeks to get a new reference picture, so it was stopped until I could get one >_>. Would have been done 2 weeks ago tbh.

[Haloking365]

Soon, almost finished, took me literally like....2 weeks to get a new reference picture, so it was stopped until I could get one >_>. Would have been done 2 weeks ago tbh.
Sahweet! I'm looking forward to this sooooo much now. SPv2 is gonna be so amazing because now you guys have practically no "due date" to have it done by, so just go f'in crazy!!!! :lol:

[DaneO'Roo]

UPDATEZ

http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4455/brutespikervp3.jpg

http://img70.imageshack.us/img70/1862/brutespiker2gk9.jpg

Rendered with a slight goldeny specular for moar win. I'm calling this finished unless anyone can see something that needs improving.

*edit for lulz* z0mg dual wi3ld!

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7525/brutespiker2ef6.jpg

xd

[Pooky]

That is awesome you are awesome :3

[Reaper Man]

EPIC EPIC EPIC. :3 Needs moar normal maps, gosh. Also, make the cloth wrapped around the grip frayed on the edges.

[DaneO'Roo]

okay, will do. Who wants the blade covered in blood?

[Pooky]

okay, will do. Who wants the blade covered in blood?

not covered, but make it look like it sliced into someone

[Reaper Man]

Noes, no blood, gosh. Needs moar illum map also. If only all objects could accumulate blood, like in source... Halo only allows that with BSP.

[n00b1n8R]

not covered, but make it look like it sliced into someone

LIKE YOUR MUM :haw:

seriously though, a good smattering of blood would be nice (make sure to get some flecks on the gun and not only the blade)

but that is awesome, you are awesome.

[DaneO'Roo]

OK tommorow when I finish doing some more of the new enemies skin I'll do a blood splatterd version. I'm pretty much spiker'd out at the mome.

[n00b1n8R]

does the new enemy shot laser?

[Reaper Man]

does the new enemy shot laser?
Yes, it does shot laser. :downsgun:

[n00b1n8R]

yay i is right :downs:

does it fly?

[Haloking365]

yay i is right :downs:

does it fly?
Perhaps:D.
And you need to upgrade your GPU (Grammar Processing Unit).

[Pooky]

Perhaps:D.
And you need to upgrade your GPU (Grammar Processing Unit).

NO U NEED 2 UPGRAD UR STFU UNIT :saddowns:

[Dole]

It looks good all around, except:

Needs moar normal maps, gosh.

[ICEE]

its gorgeous. and i think only the blade should be shiny. it looks BRUTAL like that

[DaneO'Roo]

well, its CE so it's not getting a normal map straight away.

Also INGAMEZ Y0

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2585/spikarzem9.jpg

Looks a bit lower res there, not sure if L33t did that or if Halo just sucks. Shaders need tweakage, but other than that :D

[Masterz1337]

Eew @Res of bitmaps. Looks nice in full res though.

[Haloking365]

well, its CE so it's not getting a normal map straight away.

Also INGAMEZ Y0


http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/2585/spikarzem9.jpg

Looks a bit lower res there, not sure if L33t did that or if Halo just sucks. Shaders need tweakage, but other than that :D

Wow, nice. Looks just like halo 3. But whats with the low-resiness of the skin? Im sure its supposed to look better than that, but it still looks awesome. Whats the res of the skin anyway?

[DaneO'Roo]

2048 originaly, scaled down to 1024 for Ce, but it looks like Leet has it at 512. I gotta fix up the shaders and stuff for it, though.

[Con]

That, or it's the texture filtering.

[DaneO'Roo]

that too :P

[JDMFSeanP]

Looks hella skinny and tall now, why is that?

[CtrlAltDestroy]

That was how the spiker v2 model looked when when I animated it; so I had to rescale the UVed model to match. :'(

[DaneO'Roo]

:/ It's the correct proportions, except for the clip, wich I fixed on the version of the model I have but ill need to fix it on leets poly chopped model I think.


Oh what? you used the first spiker v2 model leet? That thing was a piece of shit, WAAAAAAY too skinny. Use the one I sent you.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Hey, I started animating it before anyone else was working on it D:<

[Masterz1337]

That's why normaly I assign people to things....

[Haloking365]

That's why normaly I assign people to things....
Yeah, i was just wondering. What exactly do you do? I know you make the huds, right? But do you like organize everyone?

[Masterz1337]

I do the organizing, weapon tags if no one has beat me to it, maintain the HUD, particles effects (long as I don't have to do offsets, then it's off to leet) the shaders as well as maintaining the population of the maps (I use to populate most of them, but now teh lag likes to do them as well, I think he's done about half of them), not to mention the tedious task of bug fixing and optimization. Plus I do a fair amount of work with h2ek stuff.

Oh and

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2june/haloce&#37;201%202007-06-04%2021-22-18-89.jpg
http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2june/haloce%201%202007-06-04%2021-20-50-57.jpg

The brute grenade explosion looks alot better when you see it all in motion.

[Haloking365]

http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2june/haloce%201%202007-06-04%2021-22-18-89.jpg
http://www.cmt.h2vista.net/promotionalitems/spv2june/haloce%201%202007-06-04%2021-20-50-57.jpg

The brute grenade explosion looks alot better when you see it all in motion.
Gotcha. And HOLY SHIT! That looks awesome. Seriously. Two things though. Do the spikers spikes cool from the red-orange down to the cool grey? And do you plan on updating the BS reticle to me more like Halo 3's? Or do you like it that way?

[Masterz1337]

We've been fooling with it, but it hasn't looked convinving yet. We're leaving the BS reticle as is, as our nades have a slight arc, unlike the ones in h3. Also, it's alot easier for the air to be deadly, when they shots arc, than them trying to hit you dead on.

[t3h m00kz]

it should look more like the spiker proj in betalicious no blue trails and spikes dont stick! also spikes are orange redish

Actually the spikes do stick, they stick like needlers, just they dissapear really quickly.

[JDMFSeanP]

Looks much better though that lighting is impossible to tell shit really, good work guys.

[DaneO'Roo]

thats more like it masterz! But yeah, when leet re animates the properly prortioned model I just sent (sorrrryyyyyyyy :::(((), It'll all be cool. Hes even doing dual weild tags for lulz D:

But seriosuly, L33ts animations make this thing even moar god. Reloading is like OH NIIIIICE and the melee is like CHOP SLICE D:

[Reaper Man]

yay i is right :downs:

does it fly?
Yes.

[Pooky]

We've been fooling with it, but it hasn't looked convinving yet. We're leaving the BS reticle as is, as our nades have a slight arc, unlike the ones in h3. Also, it's alot easier for the air to be deadly, when they shots arc, than them trying to hit you dead on.

The ones in Halo 3 don't arc?

...why exactly do they need 3 heavy weapons that fire straight?

[n00b1n8R]

Yes.
I know what it is, I'm just messing :p

If I may make a suggestion Masterz, could you put the number for the amo in gun to the right where you've got the spare amo number? playing online, I follow along the amo bar to that number and more than once have had to take a double take because i read 300 bullets in a AR clip :o

[Haloking365]

If I may make a suggestion Masterz, could you put the number for the amo in gun to the right where you've got the spare amo number? playing online, I follow along the amo bar to that number and more than once have had to take a double take because i read 300 bullets in a AR clip :o
I don't think that he'd re-do the Hud, because its been done for a while, and they have more important stuff to do.

[Pooky]

I'd say that's pretty important >>

[Love De Lux]

The spiker looks damn cool I must say =o

Also, what the hell is that thing

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/177857087820070607205818.jpg

The grey thing on the screenshot

:iiam:

[Dole]

Although I don't see it on the other picture, I'd say that's the wall behind it showing through the particle.

[856891]

everything looks good guys keep it up

[Pred1ator]

the grey thing is the grenade....

[Haloking365]

The spiker looks damn cool I must say =o

Also, what the hell is that thing

http://www.enregistrersous.com/images/177857087820070607205818.jpg

The grey thing on the screenshot

:iiam:
Its the contrail for the grenade. Silly:p.

[bleach]

lol:lol: it looks more like a nose to me...although i didn't see it in the other picture.

[Patrickssj6]

Looks like Nitro's ass cheeks to me.

[Haloking365]

Hey DANO, any updates on that bloody spiker? I wanna see some GORE!!!!
Oh. CHeck ur PM's too.

[n00b1n8R]

acutally, i thought it wsa the ass of the POA.

took me a while to actually see the real ass :S

[FRain]

But seriosuly, L33ts animations make this thing even moar god. Reloading is like OH NIIIIICE and the melee is like CHOP SLICE D:

LMAO SIGGED.

[Pred1ator]

yeah leet is the only reason i pick up CMTs weapons, to see thar slick animations

[n00b1n8R]

the animations are the only reason I even touch the MA5K :S

[DaneO'Roo]

yeah leet is the only reason i pick up CMTs weapons, to see thar slick animations

yes he is a massivly cool animator and i like his chest :awesome:

[CtrlAltDestroy]

yarr

[Boba]

yes he is a massivly cool animator and i like his chest :awesome:
Sorry, he's mine.

[teh lag]

I feel so left out. Laggy animates too :'(

[Dole]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

the animations are the only reason I even touch the MA5K :S
The MA5K was animated by Teh_Lag, and the BR and MA5C were either Lag or 'Rooster.

[teh lag]

I did the SMG, BRG, Ma5c, Ma5K, and SL. Leet did the Spiker, Bruteshot, PR, Sniper, PP, Needler and the new SL. Rooster did the flamer.

[Roostervier]

Don't forget that laggy also helped me on smoothing my flamer out, plus, he did the sounds for it =D! He animates a lot more than you guys think.

[n00b1n8R]

out of curiosety, where exactly do you guy get your sounds?

[teh lag]

Some I reuse from halo, others I get from a sounds pack I DL'd a while back, though I can't remember where I got it. Leet's sounds are a mystery to me.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

Some of them i just record them from other media and clean them up and alter them a bit. (Ex: other games, television, movies, even music). Others I just make myself. <_<

:ssh:

[Pred1ator]

i thought you guys rip sounds from halo 2 >.>

[CtrlAltDestroy]

masters does :( i make my own :d

with the exception of zteam, of course

[Pred1ator]

yeh i remember masterz saying they ripped h2 sounds for spv1 on halomods.com

oh btw im evil now iv got 666 posts :dtonque:

[Dole]

Masters said the sounds for SPv1 were recorded from Halo 2, not ripped.

[CtrlAltDestroy]

They're ripped.

[Masterz1337]

Recorded from rips :X. Least thats the way everyone on the team is suppose to do it for h2 sounds.

[bleach]

lol. CMT rox. But When is the Spv2 really gonna be released? I'm starving of fun maps to play.

[Pred1ator]

lol. CMT rox. But When is the Spv2 really gonna be released? I'm starving of fun maps to play.

answer is simple...











WHEN ITS FREAKIN DONE! :mad:

[Haloking365]

answer is simple...











WHEN ITS FREAKIN DONE! :mad:

Wow, you bear a striking resemblance to Bungie there...

[Reaper Man]

Wow, you bear a striking resemblance to Bungie there...
Not really. Pretty much everyone here says that.

[Haloking365]

Not really. Pretty much everyone here says that.
I know. Nice avatar BTW:D.

[AAA]

I know. Nice avatar BTW:D.

I agree >.> :D :D :D

[Haloking365]

I agree >.> :D :D :D
Lol, whats with all the avatars?

[Lightning]

Wow, you bear a striking resemblance to Bungie there...

"When it's done" is (c) H2CE Team, 200X.

Kthx. :P

[Haloking365]

"When it's done" is (c) H2CE Team, 200X.
Kthx. :P
Lol, sigged.

[Dole]

Then where is your signature?

[Haloking365]

Then where is your signature?
Here Silly :D
VVVVVVV

[ExAm]

Gah, my email notifications crapped out. Posting to get them coming again.

[Dole]

:?

[HalosGhost]

Hey man, I think no matter how the end results look, the previous one worked great, and regardless of how it turns out, Ill be grateful to have it. Good work, and keep it up.

[Pred1ator]

spiker rifle needs to be wider IMO, looks too skinny

[ExAm]

He has already said that the pics shown were scaled by l337 so they fit the original animation rigging. Apparently it's being re-rigged.

[[BD] Spartan]

Holy **** +rep