View Full Version : CMT Kangadanolagaroo v 2.0
teh lag
July 8th, 2007, 01:45 PM
So yeah, I was looking at the old Brute model while trying to animate it, and thought "we really need to fix this thing up." I was getting some reference material together for modifying the original model, when I realized - hey, I could just remodel it from stratch.
The new brute not only is about half the polycount of the old, but will be far more customizable in terms of armor parts. This means that in SP2, you will encounter far more variations of Brutes, using armor seen in both H3 and H2.
Also, a special thankyou to Wave of Lag, who modeled the H3 Brute captain's helmet and lower arm plating.
Bruteshot Captain :
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3043/brute1uu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Plasma Rifle Minor :
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5649/brute3ue8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Plasma Rifle Captain :
http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/4964/brute22ke0.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spiker Minor :
http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2341/brute31bo4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Spiker Captain :
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4484/brute32lg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Chieftain :
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/496/brute41jl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Haloking365
July 8th, 2007, 01:48 PM
Wow. Looking awesome. To be honest though, i didnt really like the old one, it didnt have that "Brute" feel to it. One thing though, how far, if at all, will this delay SPv2?
Archon23
July 8th, 2007, 01:49 PM
Oooh looks awesome. So hows the animations look?
thehoodedsmack
July 8th, 2007, 01:52 PM
Much better, KUTGW.
teh lag
July 8th, 2007, 01:57 PM
Wow. Looking awesome. To be honest though, i didnt really like the old one, it didnt have that "Brute" feel to it. One thing though, how far, if at all, will this delay SPv2?
Hopefully, it won't delay release too much - we also have some other things we're working on.
Oooh looks awesome. So hows the animations look?
I haven't rigged the model yet, so I don't know how they look on it.
Much better, KUTGW.
You, talk to masterz about this.
Also, updated first post.
thehoodedsmack
July 8th, 2007, 01:58 PM
You, talk to masterz about this.
Aye. I assume you'll want some promotion done, eh? I'll get on that.
Roostervier
July 8th, 2007, 02:01 PM
Yay, you posted this. :awesome:
Great job!
TIA Gangsta
July 8th, 2007, 02:06 PM
I don't see what the deal is with polycount. If the end result looks better than the "higher polycount model", then go for it!
It's not like we're gonna play in wireframe or something.
Looking awesome so far.
ICEE
July 8th, 2007, 02:06 PM
KUDOS!http://i.ivillage.com/DF/103105/snackbars/DF_Kudos_366.jpg
Crazy_aceR
July 8th, 2007, 02:07 PM
Those look better than the original ones.
Archon23
July 8th, 2007, 02:10 PM
It's not like we're gonna play in wireframe or something.
Hey speak for yourself.:v
Haloking365
July 8th, 2007, 02:17 PM
Hey speak for yourself.:v
Console devmode FTW! Also, very smexy. I have quite a few concepts for armor and classes ill send to you. Somehow....:rolleyes:
teh lag
July 8th, 2007, 02:17 PM
I have quite a few concepts for armor and classes ill send to you. Somehow....:rolleyes:
PM them to me, I'm eager to model more armor.
Haloking365
July 8th, 2007, 02:31 PM
PM them to me, I'm eager to model more armor.
Im at work righ now:D, so ill send you them in a few hours when i get home. I have some wicked ideas, i hope you'll like 'em.
bleach
July 8th, 2007, 03:06 PM
Wow, the Brute v2.0 model looks way better than those brutes in the old pics boasting the new AI.
Con
July 8th, 2007, 03:11 PM
I love the flag... it's like we should all go climb on his back and make him hop around a race track
bleach
July 8th, 2007, 03:34 PM
In Halo 2, the Brute Captains always had red flags with white on them. In Halo 3, they have those stylish, elaborate metallic color helmets.
Warsaw
July 8th, 2007, 04:00 PM
It would be funny if you could jump on top of Brute Captains and it would say "Hold 'X' to pick up Flag."
RedBaron
July 8th, 2007, 04:21 PM
Hold 'X' to pick up Flag and beat Brute with it.
I gotta say, the V1 Brutes from the videos looked kinda horrible. Needless to say, V2 is great! The lighting for the Brutes in the videos was kinda off too...
Ki11a_FTW
July 8th, 2007, 05:41 PM
Those look better than the original ones.
No. Though the model is like total l33t i like it WAY more then the last
Hold 'X' to pick up Flag and beat Brute with it.
=win
teh lag
July 8th, 2007, 06:07 PM
Posted a new armor variant.
TeeKup
July 8th, 2007, 06:12 PM
Posted a new armor variant.
Oh snap! I like it!
:O
n00b1n8R
July 8th, 2007, 06:17 PM
not such a fan of the spikes on the back of the helmet but the rest is :win:
looks like dano is gona have to skin this again xD
are you going to make that rhino headpiece from H3?
[BD] Spartan
July 8th, 2007, 06:30 PM
Thanks teh lag, I like that one much better that the old one.:XD:
HolyAlliance
July 8th, 2007, 06:49 PM
I think I'll be able to rig the brute on Monday or Tuesday for you guys, but right now my desktop computer dead.
P.S. I'm going to try my hardest to get to that motion capture studio this month if I'm not swamped with other work.
SMASH
July 8th, 2007, 06:52 PM
P.S. I'm going to try my hardest to get to that motion capture studio this month if I'm not swamped with other work.
WTF! Please explain this to me. I'd like to buy a set that was like this... is this yours or a schools or a companies?
HolyAlliance
July 8th, 2007, 06:52 PM
School
Dole
July 8th, 2007, 09:54 PM
It's indescribably beautiful, and actually looks like a Brute. :)
I demand you post a side-by-side of this Brute and the old one.
Phopojijo
July 8th, 2007, 10:00 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Phopojijo/new_brute_skin_02.jpg
Old one before Dano poured on the polish. The lines on chest and thigh pads were Mental Ray glitches with anisotropic filtering.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Phopojijo/brute_01.jpg
Thats the latest texture I have -- Dano probably has better ones.
It'll be dumped opensource whenever Dano's confident its release quality.
Didn't even know the new one existed until last night, so I don't have any screencaps of it unfortunately. Just my own, of course.
Hotrod
July 8th, 2007, 10:08 PM
The new one looks so much better than the old one, it actually looks like a brute now. If this postponed the release, it will be worth the extra few days.
n00b1n8R
July 8th, 2007, 10:13 PM
the plates on the end of the old brutes arms looked like they were fused into it's flesh :S
AAA
July 8th, 2007, 10:16 PM
not very hairy. Nore big in the chest area. but, it still looks sexy =O Aweshit guys. This is gonna help out on the fps
Zeph
July 8th, 2007, 10:18 PM
better, but still needs work around joints
TheSaintlyAlphonse
July 8th, 2007, 10:38 PM
thanks... the old one looked like poop in my opinion
these actually resemble the brutes :lol:
Phopojijo
July 8th, 2007, 10:46 PM
the plates on the end of the old brutes arms looked like they were fused into it's flesh :SThey are. Deliberately.
teh lag
July 9th, 2007, 12:04 PM
Mini-update : Partially done Chieftan.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9966/brute4zj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The pelvis armor will need some touchups, as is evident. New arm and leg plates are being modeled right now.
Ki11a_FTW
July 9th, 2007, 12:17 PM
Looking good. + Reputation
Roostervier
July 9th, 2007, 12:54 PM
The new one looks so much better than the old one, it actually looks like a brute now. If this postponed the release, it will be worth the extra few days.
Could be more than that if Lag has to reanimate them because the rigs don't match well.
Hotrod
July 9th, 2007, 01:03 PM
It will still be worth the wait. Who's skinning it?
thehoodedsmack
July 9th, 2007, 02:02 PM
That chieftan looks like he's going to get his head caught in something.
Haloking365
July 9th, 2007, 02:10 PM
It will still be worth the wait. Who's skinning it?
Most likely Conscars or Dane.
HalosGhost
July 9th, 2007, 02:19 PM
Awesome Brutes!! Those look so much better than the previous ones. Hell I probably would have settled for the earlier ones. But this is just Christmas in July!! ;) Thanks guys, can't wait to eat those brutes alive on teh POA!!!
supersniper
July 9th, 2007, 03:01 PM
I want to hear what they sound like. Plus, I'm pretty sure that others have said this already but the old brutes don't compare with the new ones.
[BD] Spartan
July 9th, 2007, 03:05 PM
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Phopojijo/new_brute_skin_02.jpg
Old one before Dano poured on the polish. The lines on chest and thigh pads were Mental Ray glitches with anisotropic filtering.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v342/Phopojijo/brute_01.jpg
Thats the latest texture I have -- Dano probably has better ones.
It'll be dumped opensource whenever Dano's confident its release quality.
Didn't even know the new one existed until last night, so I don't have any screencaps of it unfortunately. Just my own, of course.
Damn, I wish I could be you guys!
AAA
July 9th, 2007, 03:12 PM
This is seriously a large step. I'd let you plant a facehugger on me anyday.
as long as it'll come out looking like a model of an enemy as good as that right there. You guys are bomb shells, figuratively speaking; you guys contain Mad skills.
DaneO'Roo
July 9th, 2007, 03:46 PM
I Liked the old one :(
New one will be much better though, and we can release the old one open source :D
Also, unless Con REALLY wan'ts to skin it, I feel like I owe it to the old brute to kick it's ass :P
ICEE
July 9th, 2007, 03:52 PM
i liked the old one actually. it looked less tubby than the halo 2 ones. i am very impressed with these however. theyre halo 3esque. your brutes have probably given every ape-rhino-man on earth a massive boner. good work
Huero
July 9th, 2007, 04:02 PM
sorry for being a total canon fag but the brutes only got the H3 armor because the elites separated from the Covenant. :X
Although you probably already know that, God I feel like a faggot. Oh well, the H3 ones are cooler anyway.
I know you won't change it and that's totally fine I just had to say it.
OCD or something idk
teh lag
July 9th, 2007, 04:05 PM
sorry for being a total canon faggot but the brutes only got the H3 armor because the elites seperated from the covies :X
There's nothing to support that they didn't have it before - they may have always had it available. I find it very hard to belive that every brute was equipped with new armor just like that over (presumably) less than a month. While Bungie may have developed it for that reason, I think it's safe to assume that Brutes had this kind of armor long before the Elites left.
TeeKup
July 9th, 2007, 04:06 PM
The mouth piece of Phopo's Brute Captain looks.....a bit too big.
Huero
July 9th, 2007, 04:08 PM
Well, considering the fact that the Brutes only showed up in ceremonial armor after the elites lost honor guard status I'd say it's a safe bet.
But whatever, it doesn't matter.
ICEE
July 9th, 2007, 04:10 PM
yeah huero, you think they always ran around naked with a tiny sliver of ahelm? i dont lol
Huero
July 9th, 2007, 04:24 PM
Of course
and instead of armor, when they first joined, they wore metal thongs
teh lag
July 9th, 2007, 07:24 PM
Updated first post with the Chieftain, as well as updated PR Minor and BS Captain.
RedBaron
July 9th, 2007, 07:46 PM
Nice shield arm, I didnt see much of halo 3 yet to know what it actucally looks like in that, but this is turning out real good.
Archon23
July 9th, 2007, 08:29 PM
Looks good but could use a bit more armor in a few places.......
HalosGhost
July 10th, 2007, 09:37 AM
Awesome armor addons! Can't wait to see the skinned and textured version. Keep up the good work teh lag. +rep :)
ICEE
July 10th, 2007, 03:49 PM
it looks awesome. i wonder what colors the armor will be
Archon23
July 10th, 2007, 04:01 PM
Most likely the ones we saw in H3.
Blue, Yellow, Red, etc.
TeeKup
July 10th, 2007, 04:11 PM
Awesome new chieftan.
{G36} SoRRoW
July 10th, 2007, 05:43 PM
So yeah, I was looking at the old Brute model while trying to animate it, and thought "we really need to fix this thing up." I was getting some reference material together for modifying the original model, when I realized - hey, I could just remodel it from stratch.
The new brute not only is about half the polycount of the old, but will be far more customizable in terms of armor parts. This means that in SP2, you will encounter far more variations of Brutes, using armor seen in both H3 and H2.
This is for a Captain weilding a Brute Shot.
http://img412.imageshack.us/img412/3043/brute1uu6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This variant will be used for Minors weilding Brute Plasma Rifles.
http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5649/brute3ue8.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
This will be used be Brute Cheiftans.
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/4874/brute4fd2.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Which ones will hold the spiker?
Sever
July 10th, 2007, 05:48 PM
I'm guessing they're not modeled/posted yet...
teh lag
July 10th, 2007, 06:02 PM
^
Dole
July 10th, 2007, 06:19 PM
Why do they have three toes?
teh lag
July 10th, 2007, 06:35 PM
Why do they have three toes?
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/12/halo2brute.jpg
Brutes have 2 toes and a thingy in between.
ICEE
July 10th, 2007, 06:40 PM
i heard masterz mention open sourcing the cmt brute v 1. anyone know more about this?
teh lag
July 10th, 2007, 06:54 PM
i heard masterz mention open sourcing the cmt brute v 1. anyone know more about this?
http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showpost.php?p=97070&postcount=29
It was in this thread buddy.
:|
ICEE
July 10th, 2007, 06:59 PM
i have degraded a notch. two in one day. a record
Revord
July 10th, 2007, 07:13 PM
Well, your still doing better than most o.O
Revord
ICEE
July 10th, 2007, 07:14 PM
thanks. lol
Dole
July 10th, 2007, 09:17 PM
http://cache.kotaku.com/assets/resources/2006/12/halo2brute.jpg
Brutes have 2 toes and a thingy in between.
Yes, but they're wide and broad, not long and pointy. Also they differ in location pending on the class of Brute (at the end of the shin armor, or jammed between the toes).
For instance, on that Chieftain it's completely redundant.
Edit: Speaking of the Chieftain, Lag, will they be wielding toothbrushes and lollipops or Spikers and Brute Shots?
ICEE
July 10th, 2007, 09:24 PM
dole is correct. what it frickin matters, i dont know
teh lag
July 11th, 2007, 07:20 AM
Yes, but they're wide and broad, not long and pointy. Also they differ in location pending on the class of Brute (at the end of the shin armor, or jammed between the toes).
For instance, on that Chieftain it's completely redundant.
Edit: Speaking of the Chieftain, Lag, will they be wielding toothbrushes and lollipops or Spikers and Brute Shots?
They can weild whatever the hell they want to. And thanks for pointing out that toe thing, I'll get on fixing it.
DaneO'Roo
July 11th, 2007, 08:10 AM
D:
Those brutes are win. Fucking win.
ICEE
July 11th, 2007, 02:21 PM
so will these guys be wielding sanghalli energy swords? sure they wont have grav hammers but they need some brutal chopping weapon dont they? just a thought
RedBaron
July 11th, 2007, 03:44 PM
Wait, they won't have gravity hammers? Ironclad, I think the majority of people won't understand the word sanghalli. Unless of course everyone who's on this site are halo fanatics that have read every single halo book out there... *ahem don't make fun of me.
Huero
July 11th, 2007, 05:09 PM
If you're on this forum, you should know what it means.
TeeKup
July 11th, 2007, 05:18 PM
Sangheili
:)
Dole
July 11th, 2007, 05:32 PM
They can weild whatever the hell they want to.
Brute Shots, Spikers, Energy Swords, TOOTHBRUSHES (H3 Grav Hammers), OR LOLLIPOPS (H2 Grav Hammers)? <:mad:>
Hotrod
July 11th, 2007, 07:18 PM
How about Grunts? Brutes could smash stuff with them.
Archon23
July 11th, 2007, 07:36 PM
Nah they'd pick up ghosts and start rushing at you with em.
ICEE
July 11th, 2007, 09:11 PM
haha id like to hop into a ghost as a brute is carrying it, start it up and watch the radiation melt his face
megaxp
July 11th, 2007, 09:28 PM
Mini-update : Partially done Chieftan.
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9966/brute4zj5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
The pelvis armor will need some touchups, as is evident. New arm and leg plates are being modeled right now.
nice brute... add textures
DaneO'Roo
July 11th, 2007, 09:55 PM
^ wtf, you don't simply "add textures" like you pull them out of your ass o rsomething. I'm sick of people not reading threads. You don't simply add textures. You make them.
Archon23
July 11th, 2007, 09:59 PM
Course those posts always seem like they demand you to make/add textures right off the bat.
Remember folks Textures aren't easy to make like everyone thinks......I mean I tried making em before......Didn't turn out quite so well. Give em time unless you want a half assed project.......
Roostervier
July 11th, 2007, 10:03 PM
^ wtf, you don't simply "add textures" like you pull them out of your ass o rsomething. I'm sick of people not reading threads. You don't simply add textures. You make them.
Hey Dano, could I talk to you on AIM or Xfire about the skinning? I volunteered to UV it so someone could skin it (since I can UV now), but if you are going to skin it, I don't know if you want to UV it yourself. Anyway, I'm going to check your profile for Xfire. If it's not there, could you PM it to me?
[edit] I think I could guess what it is >_>.
DaneO'Roo
July 11th, 2007, 10:10 PM
Hey Dano, could I talk to you on AIM or Xfire about the skinning? I volunteered to UV it so someone could skin it (since I can UV now), but if you are going to skin it, I don't know if you want to UV it yourself. Anyway, I'm going to check your profile for Xfire. If it's not there, could you PM it to me?
[edit] I think I could guess what it is >_>.
Yes, I will unwrap it. I'd feel much more comfortable that way, and I'd set it out alot better.
mistercheif
July 11th, 2007, 10:50 PM
does cmt have honour guards for sp-v2?
Archon23
July 11th, 2007, 10:58 PM
Probably no honor guards cause well........It would be kinda pointless having honor guards that are no where near the prophets........
mistercheif
July 11th, 2007, 11:18 PM
Yeah, you are rite i don`t no what I was thinking. Thank you for making it clear. :)
ICEE
July 11th, 2007, 11:23 PM
that rules out honorguard staff as the secret weapon eh
mistercheif
July 12th, 2007, 12:22 AM
maybe it will be a halo 2 fuel rod? (i hope)
bleach
July 12th, 2007, 12:26 AM
The staff or rods that the Honor Guards are carrying are called Honor Guard Pikes. I can't wait to see the Brute v2.0 in gameplay.
The brute v2.0 armor falls off right? Helmet, armor pieces, etc., are they destructible?
mistercheif
July 12th, 2007, 12:58 AM
I wonder how tough chieftans are bullet sponges? And b.t.w can you make it so that the brute chieftans will have energy swords like in the vidoc? please cmt ??
Kornman00
July 12th, 2007, 04:49 AM
How old are you exactly?
Archon23
July 12th, 2007, 04:57 AM
Not old enough to realize that on forums you have to use correct spelling. Also if you read this don't give us the "but this way is afaster in typing lol"
I've heard that way to many times.
As for the energy sword for chieftans I don't know. Maybe but it'll get destroyed when dropped just like the elites energy sword. As for the Brutes being damage sponges. Remember CMT doesn't copy Halo directly so having one of the more annoying aspects about brutes in Halo 2 just doesn't sound like something they would do......
Hotrod
July 12th, 2007, 08:39 AM
I'm sure that CMT said that the brutes were not going to be bullet sponges like they are in Halo 2.
teh lag
July 12th, 2007, 09:08 AM
Updated with the PR Captain, which has a helmet modeled by the awesome and very attractive Wolrus. (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/member.php?u=86)
Chieftains will NOT weild enegy swords or fuel rod weapons. Whether or not they will be able to use lollipops or toothbrushes remains to be seen.
We will NOT have honor guards, as brutes did not have that purpose until the events of Halo 2.
The armor will not fall of - helmets of minors will definately be able to be blown off though.
I have also cleaned up alot of bad posts in this thread - do not allow it to dive to the level of discussion that I saw when I got on this morning.
Hunter
July 12th, 2007, 10:06 AM
they look awsome, you guys can probobly make Halo 3 quality weapons and stuff. i cant wait to see the animations.
RedBaron
July 12th, 2007, 01:27 PM
I get the lollipops, but I still don't understand the toothbrush references.
Warsaw
July 12th, 2007, 01:45 PM
I wonder how tough chieftans are bullet sponges? And b.t.w can you make it so that the brute chieftans will have energy swords like in the vidoc? please cmt ??
Energy swords are more like trophies for the Brutes, for killing a high-ranking Elite. The melee weapon of choice for higher-ranking Brutes seems to be the Gravity Hammer, which is analogous to the Elite's Plasma Sword, with an added flinging effect.
teh lag
July 12th, 2007, 02:00 PM
Update. That's all the permutaions. I'll be making some minor tweaks to the model, but other than that it's done. Also, thanks to the Wolrus (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/member.php?u=86) again for modeling the Spiker Brutes' lower arm plating.
Archon23
July 12th, 2007, 02:12 PM
Nice load of varients. Thats good....
I'm gonna love to see those textured. They're already awesome as models.....
Warsaw
July 12th, 2007, 02:43 PM
Nice...some of them look redundant though.
ICEE
July 12th, 2007, 03:51 PM
Updated with the PR Captain, which has a helmet modeled by the awesome and very attractive Wolrus. (http://www.h2vista.net/forums/member.php?u=86)
Chieftains will NOT weild enegy swords or fuel rod weapons. Whether or not they will be able to use lollipops or toothbrushes remains to be seen.
We will NOT have honor guards, as brutes did not have that purpose until the events of Halo 2.
The armor will not fall of - helmets of minors will definately be able to be blown off though.
I have also cleaned up alot of bad posts in this thread - do not allow it to dive to the level of discussion that I saw when I got on this morning.
why is it always teh lags posts that crush my dreams?
Shangri-La
July 12th, 2007, 05:34 PM
What are Cheiftains gonna carry? Brute Shots? Gravity Hammers? Dual Spiker? Dual Brute Plasma Rifle? Portal Covenant Turret what they gonna carry im curious..If you made a Gravity Hammer and want current H3 sounds lal you gotta use is the sounds of a Guass Hogs turret shooting
I forgot to mention the Art for the Brutes is extremly impressive good job on it i cant wait to see them with color
Bad Waffle
July 12th, 2007, 05:35 PM
*cough* teh lag i think you forgot to mention who modeled your helmets that you couldnt do...
*wheeeze*
teh lag
July 12th, 2007, 05:36 PM
why is it always teh lags posts that crush my dreams?
I answer questions the most :p
What are Cheiftains gonna carry? Brute Shots? Gravity Hammers? Dual Spiker? Dual Brute Plasma Rifle? Portal Covenant Turret what they gonna carry im curious..If you made a Gravity Hammer and want current H3 sounds lal you gotta use is the sounds of a Guass Hogs turret shooting
As of right now they carry a weapon.
And no wol, you're lying :mad:
http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showpost.php?p=99625&postcount=98
mistercheif
July 12th, 2007, 06:54 PM
ooooh i get it another secret weapon eh? well, we`ll half to see soon rite? what % is it completed? why so many questions?
bleach
July 12th, 2007, 06:59 PM
shouldn't there be a major brute? Those models look awesome!
Archon23
July 12th, 2007, 07:00 PM
Or they carry any type of brute weapon they feel like it. Ya know the logical answer. :eng101:
mistercheif
July 12th, 2007, 07:07 PM
I know its just that he said a weapon.... so many people would think a weapon that they havent told us about, and I understand that they will hold eny other weapon im jsut saying, you don`t half to flame -.-
teh lag
July 12th, 2007, 07:10 PM
I know its just that he said a weapon.... so many people would think a weapon that they havent told us about, and I understand that they will hold eny other weapon im jsut saying, you don`t half to flame -.-
A. That wasn't even CLOSE to a flame. Falming is NOT disagreeing with someone.
B. "Have" and "half" are very, VERY different words.
Hotrod
July 12th, 2007, 09:29 PM
I'm guessing that the Chieftain wields the new weapon they haven't told us about yet.
Bastinka
July 12th, 2007, 09:40 PM
Very nice!
Although the pelvis seems odd to me, well the waist - pelvis area seems odd, nice although.
Sever
July 12th, 2007, 10:20 PM
Question: What are the wirings on the back of the majors' body armor for?
Hotrod
July 12th, 2007, 10:39 PM
My guess is that either those brutes have shields or that they are just there for looks.
Archon23
July 12th, 2007, 10:58 PM
Pretty sure its not shields as neither spartans or elites needed wiring on the outside for their shields.
RedBaron
July 12th, 2007, 11:12 PM
Maybe they're just there because they're there in the Halo 3 vidoc. :/
megaxp
July 12th, 2007, 11:27 PM
+rep
mistercheif
July 13th, 2007, 04:33 AM
^ rep for who?
Bad Waffle
July 13th, 2007, 06:06 AM
And no wol, you're lying :mad:
http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showpost.php?p=99625&postcount=98
oh, k D:
Sever
July 14th, 2007, 11:03 AM
http://www.bungie.net/images/Games/Halo3/Screenshots/H3_E307_Brute.jpg
MAKE THIS.
teh lag
July 14th, 2007, 11:04 AM
http://img511.imageshack.us/img511/4484/brute32lg5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
:raise:
Sever
July 14th, 2007, 11:05 AM
Gotcha.
Just didn't know that it was gold yet.
Good.
ExAm
July 14th, 2007, 03:01 PM
I thought brutes had two toes, not three.
bleach
July 14th, 2007, 04:17 PM
I really hope that the process of making brutes and putting them into the SPv2 isn't slowing the release of it. By the way, is the brute shot going to be stronger? Not a wimpy 5 shot kill in H2_Coagulation, but a 2 - 3 round kill for a decent opponent. If its going to be weaker than 75% damage, than increase the magazine to 6 rounds! :D Any updates on vehicles, AI, weapons, or environments of the SPv2 levels? Also, (kind of getting off topic) what is with the water/liquid splash armor in the "Et Tu Brute Video Documentary"?
DaneO'Roo
July 14th, 2007, 04:22 PM
I thought brutes had two toes, not three.
he quoted an old picture. I have the models, they've got 2 toes.
ICEE
July 15th, 2007, 12:31 AM
bleach makes a good point about the brute shot. i am interested to know more about it. the h2_coag one is overly weak... which brings up ANOTHER question. when the brute v1 tags are released, will those brutes be able to wield the brute shot from h2_coag? that seems like it might be of importance.
Archon23
July 15th, 2007, 12:37 AM
I always wondered why the Brute Shot was so weak.....I mean it shoots explosive grenades and it takes more shots to kill than a BR does (Yes I know technically it takes 12 shots from a BR to kill but still)
VendavalEste
July 15th, 2007, 05:13 AM
Damn, I know I'm late and I have little to say, but those are nice.
Dole
July 15th, 2007, 07:27 PM
http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/496/brute41jl6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)The crest is a little high and the nosepiece should be more of a blade rather than a rhino horn:
http://veegie.yayap.com/H3/EtTuBrute/Halo3Commercial9.jpg
Also:
Fix the toes.
Will Chieftains have smoky gray energy shielding like Tartarus?
Toothbrush or lollipop?
The blade protrusions on the shoulderplates look to spiky ATM, and the plates themselves are too long.
The Minors have four stubs on the back of their helmets, right?
You're only using the Chieftain with the ceratopsian headdress and not the one with a serrated "V" crest, right?
The armor on the Chieftain's left arm is supposed to be two pieces.
As far as I can perceive, the details of the Captain's samurai-esque helmet look out of proportion.
DaneO'Roo
August 30th, 2007, 10:45 PM
http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/7532/brutesofarkd2.jpg
Started skinning yesterday, bump map for head is still being done before i diffuse it, and the hands aren't unwrapped yet, and the feet i haven't done anything to them texture wise yet.
Masterz1337
August 30th, 2007, 10:47 PM
That is only ugly motherfucker.
DaneO'Roo
August 30th, 2007, 10:50 PM
Colour is temporary, so I can more easily distinguish between things.
Also, you'll notice anything mirrored has the wrong lighting direction. That's not a problem, because most game engines actually are smart with that sort of thing and flip the normals. Halo 2's brutes have mirrored arms and legs and they're fine ingame and since I've unwrapped the brute almost the same sort of layout, it should be fine.
RedBaron
August 30th, 2007, 10:58 PM
2 days so far huh? You'll be done in no time... pppsshhh 2 months, ha!
DaneO'Roo
August 30th, 2007, 11:04 PM
well I've been busy with alot of stuff mainly real life so it took me a while to unwrap ALL the brutes armour plating and the actual brutes themselves. Still not finished the unwrapping though.
supersniper
August 31st, 2007, 12:18 AM
Wow they even look ugly. No wonder the Elites hate them. Lol I know you just started but woah momma.
I know in the end they will look gorgeous.
hailstorm65
August 31st, 2007, 12:31 AM
man i liked the other ones
n00b1n8R
August 31st, 2007, 02:49 AM
O__o
that is pretty sexy... in a brute way :X
hailstorm65
August 31st, 2007, 11:32 AM
:eek:Well thats just nasty
Dole
August 31st, 2007, 12:16 PM
I still say it's a squirrel.
Looks hot! Blows the H2 Brute out of the water. :-D
Unfortunately, it drastically outshines the H1 Elite, too.
Edit: Needs more phallic easter eggs. (http://i10.tinypic.com/623gheg.jpg) just kidding :P
God forbid these things dryhump you after they kill you. :-X
ExAm
August 31st, 2007, 03:26 PM
I still say it's a squirrel.
Looks hot! Blows the H2 Brute out of the water. :-D
Unfortunately, it drastically outshines the H1 Elite, too.
Edit: Needs more phallic easter eggs. (http://i10.tinypic.com/623gheg.jpg) just kidding :P
God forbid these things dryhump you after they kill you. :-XYou do know that it wasn't actually a penis, right? God I hope so :P
Dole
August 31st, 2007, 08:51 PM
That's what they tried to make people believe, but they were probably just trying to cover their collective ass (or groin) after the public realized that they had left in the video a Brute that was hung like a horse.
Regardless, what is the sense in a piece of "armor" that has a smooth, round, flesh-colored shaft (no, ambient lighting from the rocket explosion does not account for hues like that) that thickens towards the middle and then tapers towards a tannish pink head shaped like a Nazi army helmet that coincidentally flops down when a piece of package-supporting crotch-cup armor gets blown off?
Unless of course it's actually a metal dildo that Brute Chieftains carry around to play with when they're bored and lonely, and it only qualifies as 'armor' in the sense that they use them as billy clubs when they lose their Gravity Hammers.
Sever
August 31st, 2007, 09:05 PM
*Gets halo 3... *
Cool!
*Ten minutes later, after killing a brute squad... *
Hold 'Y' to dual wield... WHAT THE FUCK!?!
ExAm
September 1st, 2007, 03:12 AM
That's what they tried to make people believe, but they were probably just trying to cover their collective ass (or groin) after the public realized that they had left in the video a Brute that was hung like a horse.
Regardless, what is the sense in a piece of "armor" that has a smooth, round, flesh-colored shaft (no, ambient lighting from the rocket explosion does not account for hues like that) that thickens towards the middle and then tapers towards a tannish pink head shaped like a Nazi army helmet that coincidentally flops down when a piece of package-supporting crotch-cup armor gets blown off?
Unless of course it's actually a metal dildo that Brute Chieftains carry around to play with when they're bored and lonely, and it only qualifies as 'armor' in the sense that they use them as billy clubs when they lose their Gravity Hammers.It's a curioius light pattern on a piece of armor, caused by a shadow cast by another part. Seriously, do you think anyone would include a penis anywhere in Halo?
Leiukemia
September 1st, 2007, 06:21 AM
They already forgot about that ass thing in halo 2, something tells me the halo guys have too much fun sometimes.
DaneO'Roo
September 1st, 2007, 06:31 AM
http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/7296/brutesofarwi5.jpg
http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7231/brutechieftensofarcb9.jpg
Hands still aren't unwrapped and shit is still basic, just laying down the basic foundations for everything.
nooBBooze
September 1st, 2007, 06:51 AM
win.
lol @ the tongue tough XP
DaneO'Roo
September 1st, 2007, 07:03 AM
yeah, I haven't done much to the mouth yet. The diffuse is BASIC. It's literally a 5 minute job. The bump maps are still being worked on before I'll start a serious one. That goes for everything.
nooBBooze
September 1st, 2007, 07:41 AM
And it still looks like win...
its really the ?-quality of the voice acting and animations and not the model that keep me up all night.:(
DaneO'Roo
September 1st, 2007, 08:05 AM
Yeah, well if it was a totally shitty blocky model with really bad textures it would undermine that experience.
teh lag
September 1st, 2007, 08:07 AM
Dano you march your rear onto aim D:
Also awesome.
AAA
September 1st, 2007, 04:00 PM
This is too damn good Dano, why do you spoil us?
TrU7H
September 2nd, 2007, 04:34 PM
Because he's doing it for the glory, and he's a nice guy. =D Anyways, keep up the good work, can't wait to see the final.
ICEE
September 2nd, 2007, 10:59 PM
impressive
RedBaron
September 2nd, 2007, 11:54 PM
The head of it looks kinda pale. I guess it depends if you're aiming towards a halo 2 or halo 3 brute. It should be tanner either way. I thought that those flap things sticking out of the side of the head were unwrapped fur. Guess I was wrong...
DaneO'Roo
September 3rd, 2007, 12:08 AM
Those are the frigin hair planes, and I haven't done those yet.......
And the colour is bloody temporary, I said this allready.
Masterz1337
September 3rd, 2007, 12:11 AM
People are dumb. You should check Jay's post at halomaps in the CMT update topic there.
TrU7H
September 3rd, 2007, 12:06 PM
Yeah I saw that, it was...actually, I have no words to describe it. And shouldn't that thread have more than JUST the brutes? what about all the other cool stuff like Teh lag's sniper rifle? or Dano's AR?
teh lag
September 3rd, 2007, 12:44 PM
http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/6266/oshibrutesxp0.jpg
As posted by dano at halomaps.
AAA
September 3rd, 2007, 12:48 PM
those wrists hurt my virgin eyes =(
but, the brutes skin kills, kind of looks like an elephant, but what brute didn't, right? Awesome job so far man =)
TrU7H
September 3rd, 2007, 01:08 PM
Hot Jizz, I hope there's going to be a shiny gold plated brute somewhere in spv2.
Ki11a_FTW
September 3rd, 2007, 01:26 PM
not bad, not bad at all. +rep
TrU7H
September 3rd, 2007, 01:28 PM
Shouldn't you be giving that rep to Dano?...
teh lag
September 3rd, 2007, 01:49 PM
^
The time for repping me was when it was being modeled.
supersniper
September 3rd, 2007, 04:35 PM
Just a little behind eh?? (as a Canadian would say.)
Hotrod
September 3rd, 2007, 04:58 PM
Just a little behind eh?? (as a Canadian would say.)
No, it would be "Just a little behind, eh?"
I didn't realize that there were so many different armor variations until I saw that picture. I'm sure that they will look awesome when they are skinned.
TrU7H
September 3rd, 2007, 07:33 PM
Oh...oh yeah, sorry Lag, I forgot, so sorry. Uh...still, some rep should go to Dano for the skins. And I can't wait to see all the different ones.
WaЯReN
September 4th, 2007, 08:44 PM
So will you be making all the armor destructible or something?
KntTader
September 4th, 2007, 09:20 PM
So will you be making all the armor destructible or something?
I think that they said that only the helmet of the brute minors would be distructable.
WaЯReN
September 4th, 2007, 09:22 PM
Mmmm...figured.
Masterz1337
September 4th, 2007, 09:31 PM
We haven't decided yet. Depends on how much more tagspace the new brutes occupy. I'm fairly certain you will be able to blow off all of their helmets though.
t3h m00kz
September 5th, 2007, 01:05 AM
That makes me hot in the pants
Haloking365
September 5th, 2007, 01:50 PM
Your not the only one hyena....
WaЯReN
September 5th, 2007, 04:37 PM
Indeed....I love that you actually have to put in some effort to even get a head shot. Now will snipes still need to take off helmets? And will you be able to shoot exposed parts of the head and still kill without taking off the pain in the
ass helmet?
Haloking365
September 5th, 2007, 05:01 PM
Indeed....I love that you actually have to put in some effort to even get a head shot. Now will snipes still need to take off helmets? And will you be able to shoot exposed parts of the head and still kill without taking off the pain in the
ass helmet?
Im pretty sure that all they would have to do is make the collision model super-accurate. Then they'd be set.
WaЯReN
September 5th, 2007, 05:21 PM
I figured something of the sort.....that would be nice.
Jay2645
September 5th, 2007, 10:03 PM
Yeah, it would.
People are dumb. You should check Jay's post at halomaps in the CMT update topic there.
Leave that post out of this... <_<
KntTader
September 6th, 2007, 03:21 PM
I wonder if there is going to be a brute flood form? That would be cool!
Masterz1337
September 6th, 2007, 03:38 PM
Not enough tagspace, plus, what could it possibly offer to the game?
KntTader
September 6th, 2007, 04:39 PM
Not enough tagspace, plus, what could it possibly offer to the game?
Ya I guess you have a good point. I just figured it would be one more bullet sponge for me to shoot at.:lol:
Sever
September 6th, 2007, 04:50 PM
...what could it possibly offer to the game?
Flood forms with even deadlier close range attacks. Which has its pros and cons of course.
WaЯReN
September 6th, 2007, 06:29 PM
It would take lots of shots to take it down and its melees would be crazy strong. It...like every other flood...cept the little fattys....would jump like Spider-Man heights....it would be a crazy strong enemy and I would love it....but tagspace ಠ_ಠ
DaneO'Roo
September 8th, 2007, 11:04 PM
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/3497/oshibrutesud0.jpg
ignore the mirrored bumps, can't avoid that in maya unless I was a god and new scripts and stuff. Ingame h2v it won't do that though.
Masterz1337
September 8th, 2007, 11:07 PM
goodd y do u hav 2 cppee h3 so mauch. geet sum skillz.
Looks great. Can't wait to sink a BRG nade in them
HalosGhost
September 8th, 2007, 11:07 PM
That is amazing Dano, fantastic work, keep it up! :)
n00b1n8R
September 8th, 2007, 11:17 PM
you still have to do those bands on his uper arms right?
tbh I think you went a tad overboard with the folds in the elbows :X
the hair planes look a tad to "smokey". need more streeks/highlights (but obviously just abit).
those arn't final colours are they?
Masterz1337
September 8th, 2007, 11:19 PM
They're going to be colored via color change in the game.
Bastinka
September 8th, 2007, 11:23 PM
Multipurpose maps? or something, looking :awesome: dane.
ICEE
September 9th, 2007, 12:17 AM
cant wait to rape its mouth after killing it. i hope when you kill em they land on there backs, mouth open. nothing says "i just kicked your ugly ass" than some balls in the mouth
DrunkenSamus
September 9th, 2007, 01:16 AM
Why is the thread's name different? Why does it sound like its been Australified?
ICEE
September 9th, 2007, 02:04 AM
probably teh lag freaking out because everyone is crediting dano for the brutes when he modeled them and isnt getting much love.
ITS OK LAG!
Jay2645
September 9th, 2007, 02:51 AM
Don't worry Lag, we love you. Here's some +rep. Feel better?
teh lag
September 9th, 2007, 06:16 AM
I'm as confused as you are as to why brutes are now kangadanolagaroos.
Sounds like something masterz would make up...
Unggoy
September 9th, 2007, 09:29 AM
So brutes are now a mix of a kangaroo, lag, and dano??? What does the look like? Ah well, have some rep lag, you're not forgotten. Brutes look nice though (really nice).
supersniper
September 9th, 2007, 09:46 AM
Hmm well if he really wanted them to be kangaroos then maybe you could script them into jumping like kangaroos in the SPv2.
PS: the Lag stands for Teh lag. (Don't know if you knew that or not Unggoy.)
Unggoy
September 9th, 2007, 09:53 AM
I know lag stands for teh lag. I've actually have been coming here for a long time before joining.
WaЯReN
September 9th, 2007, 09:54 AM
um....I think he does since his post is right above his.....and Lag...I always say "Damn lag did a great job....I'd sex him up right quick one day!" Good job.
supersniper
September 9th, 2007, 09:59 AM
Oh ok I was just checking. Sorry for thinking your new. My bad. Um any other kind of apologize I missed out??
WaЯReN
September 9th, 2007, 10:38 AM
Yeah....same with me Unggoy...I just floated around bodiless....and now I decided to join.
RedBaron
September 9th, 2007, 12:56 PM
Yeah! Lets all +rep laggy.
I'll +rep even more if I find out those wrists aren't final.
WaЯReN
September 9th, 2007, 06:55 PM
I don't much like them either, but do you really think it will be that noticeable in-game?
supersniper
September 9th, 2007, 07:00 PM
When they are dead and not moving. YES
WaЯReN
September 9th, 2007, 07:27 PM
I dont have dirty brute fantasies so their looking down at their wrists doesent really seem to be something I will be doing often....but still it would be nice to see it fixed I guess.
DaneO'Roo
September 10th, 2007, 07:43 AM
I see lots of rep for Lag, yet i haven't had a green rep in nearly 2 weeks.
Just minus reps (thanks guys :()
you guys DO know I'm the one who's painting the textures, right?
RedBaron
September 10th, 2007, 02:13 PM
I would +rep you, but you've flamed at me and others more than once now over stupid things, like questions being asked that were answered 10 pages into other threads. I'll stay neutral on this one, till I see some improvement on managing anger. Though the textures are nice.
WaЯReN
September 10th, 2007, 03:16 PM
Dano, your teh win....and I love what you do. +rep
Huero
September 10th, 2007, 03:27 PM
I would if I had any rep power
Hotrod
September 10th, 2007, 04:38 PM
Here you go Dano, you have one more little green rep to add to your collection. Oh, and nice work.
Sever
September 10th, 2007, 04:46 PM
I would if I hadn't +repped you recently.
Bastinka
September 10th, 2007, 05:03 PM
We all love you lag :-*
TrU7H
September 10th, 2007, 05:32 PM
I don't even know if I have any repping power at all....=(
Sunray
September 10th, 2007, 05:49 PM
Well go to your user CP and scroll down to "latest reputation given" and on the right should be your rep power; "Your Reputation Power is <number> Points"
TrU7H
September 10th, 2007, 05:52 PM
Ooooooh thanks.
edit: Aww....only 1 point rep power...wait...is that one positive or still neutral?
Bastinka
September 10th, 2007, 06:01 PM
1 for - and +.
Sunray
September 10th, 2007, 06:03 PM
One positive. You make a difference to people's rep.
EDIT: But SilentWindPL got there first...
teh lag
September 10th, 2007, 06:10 PM
Ontopic please, enough about rep.
WaЯReN
September 10th, 2007, 06:17 PM
The Kangadanolagaroos are getting more and more beautiful....I just hope they dont look goofy like what we have seen.
RedBaron
September 10th, 2007, 06:49 PM
I just hope they dont look goofy like what we have seen.
Like what?
WaЯReN
September 10th, 2007, 07:01 PM
Well they all look like their arms are two long and their feet are two awkward....a few other things...I AM referring to the ones like in that spike grenade terrorized crewman.
DaneO'Roo
September 11th, 2007, 02:31 AM
For fucks sake, people don't read threads. That Brute was the OLD one.
jesus
n00b1n8R
September 11th, 2007, 02:49 AM
since when do the people in the CMT boards read?
I'd give you rep but I allready took some too recently :3
DaneO'Roo
September 11th, 2007, 04:25 AM
screw you hippy
n00b1n8R
September 11th, 2007, 06:41 AM
screw you hippy
I didn't think you liked gays :raise:
Masterz1337
September 11th, 2007, 07:04 AM
Should we do a whole information blackout regarding the mod until it's out dano?
WaЯReN
September 11th, 2007, 07:12 AM
Dano....I knew they were old....thats why I said that I hope the brutes (when animated, put ingame, etc.) would look better than the goofy old ones.
Co Redsonic
September 11th, 2007, 03:27 PM
Dude...if you guys keep up the good work people wont be able to tell the difference between CMT Brutes and H2 Brutes....
WaЯReN
September 11th, 2007, 03:42 PM
Agreed....keep up the good work dano and lag on those Kangadanolagaroos.
TrU7H
September 11th, 2007, 05:47 PM
Yay for Lag (I shall not forget you) and Dano!
Anyways, I hope they won't turn out to have that spongy feel, like in Halo 2, you can sink hundreds of bullets into them and they just absorb it, doing nothing at all. I hope in SPv2 that you can kill with with around half a magazine (thank you warsaw/ace for correction) of BRG on easy, and a magazine or two for legendary.
Co Redsonic
September 11th, 2007, 05:55 PM
Yeah, but with the AR think it would take an entire clip just to take down 1 Brute...or 2....
TrU7H
September 11th, 2007, 06:16 PM
Meh, since the AR's toned down, I'd imagine it'd take a whole clip too. But the BRG's got more power(speaking of which, you guys really should give it a new model, the old model really...bad now, and the reload animation needs a redo, I don't understand how the MC can pull a box magazine out horrizontally[sorry if i misspelled that] when the clip is suppose to be pulled out vertically, for example: if the gun is facing <- way, the MC pulls out the mag -> way [with the stock blocking the way], not down, I don't understand the physics of that). So the BRG should only take about half a clip to a full clip, on easy, to kill a brute.
WaЯReN
September 11th, 2007, 06:17 PM
I never just shoot...I usually shoot+melee+grenade or melee+shoot+melee or sometimes melee²+shoot....I like to do different combinations...
TrU7H
September 11th, 2007, 06:20 PM
Lol, I never just shoot too, whenever I could, if it was a grunt or jackal, I run up and just melee them, conserve some ammo/explosives.
ICEE
September 11th, 2007, 06:51 PM
im to lazy to melee the weaklings, i usually use a spare weapon lying around. (there is always a spare weapon!)
in any case, im sure the brutes will require my full attention... asking someone whose beta'd, are the brutes stronger than elites, balanced or weaker?
Amit
September 11th, 2007, 07:33 PM
Lol, I never just shoot too, whenever I could, if it was a grunt or jackal, I run up and just melee them, conserve some ammo/explosives.
I do that up close when fighting elites also, not bcuz it saves ammo but bcuz it'll save my ass. If i have to reload i would get killed by the elite in close range combat. Empty the clip, get meleed, melee him back, reload or throw grenade.
Masterz1337
September 11th, 2007, 07:42 PM
im to lazy to melee the weaklings, i usually use a spare weapon lying around. (there is always a spare weapon!)
in any case, im sure the brutes will require my full attention... asking someone whose beta'd, are the brutes stronger than elites, balanced or weaker?
Personally, I rush foward, and melee, then throw a nade, then quickly jump away. Works great on all the enemies but brute and flood, seeing as how if you get to close to a brute they will start chasing you non stop.
supersniper
September 11th, 2007, 07:58 PM
Dang they can do that in Halo CE?? Ugh I was hoping the Engine couldn't handle it. Lol I just really hated that in Halo 2.
TrU7H
September 11th, 2007, 08:22 PM
Lol, I loved that, it was like bullfighting, funny as hell. But yeah, I melee whenever I can, especially for hunters, it's fun and funny to watch them charge at you, miss, and melee him in the back, when he turns around and charges again, dodge, and melee again, saves so much ammo lol.
WaЯReN
September 11th, 2007, 09:21 PM
Didn't [on regular halo pc] the flood not take any melee damage? And can you put them to take damage? Maybe only from weapons with bayonets? Thats a good question right?
Archon23
September 11th, 2007, 10:11 PM
Flood took melee damage just very little and it was more efficient/safe to shoot them.
supersniper
September 11th, 2007, 10:51 PM
Yeah I mean come on going up close with those ugly things. Also let's not forget that retarded melee only arm. Stupid evolution of parasites. What every happened to ring worm??
Edward Elrich
September 12th, 2007, 03:08 PM
It is ring worm. Alien ring worm. You saw the tenticals of the flood, and how they looked? The infection forms put their ringworms inside your body, stopping all functions (and mostly drying out your blood). Ther then have control over your body and use it for their evil puropses. However, when separated from the infection form, the ringworms cannot survive, explaining the "blood" the flood forms spill when you shoot or kill them. http://www.bleachexile.com/images/scripts/emoticons/new/th_RukiaBoHaHa.gif (I'm joking, if you can't tell.)
edit: Yes, I know my post is http://www.bleachexile.com/images/scripts/emoticons/ot.gif. Now we can get back on topic.
teh lag
September 21st, 2007, 08:46 PM
(From Dano's CE General subforum update, viewable at http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1677&page=195)
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/1800/oshibrutesqt7.jpg
http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/5756/oshibrutes2zj1.jpg
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