[COMPETITION] SnaFührer's Monthly Modeling Challenge!!

The challenge for the month of:

August is a vehicle challenge! An APC (armored personel carrier) of your design with a maximum of 7500 triangles.

what it can be:
It can look like something that would fit into alternate history or something completely futuristic or a modern theme.

what it can't be:
A remodleing of a vehicle from any game. A rendition of someone else's concept. Downloaded. An edit of a downloaded model. An edit of an old model. Something that exists.


Posting Guidelines:

3 inspiration images if you cannot draw concept art
1 concept sketch that YOU MADE
3 final renders (one from the front 3/4 view, one from rear 3/4 view, and one showing entrances/exits/interior

You must show progress, including wireframe renders! Any final model entries with no wip renders will not be accepted, regardless.

EDIT: if you are only a concept artist or you are a modeler of no artistic capability, you can enter as part of a two man team.

these rules are subject to change as i see fit




SEPTEMBER: Sci-fi sidearm competition

Your task is to create a science fiction sidearm for a soldier. It can shoot lasers, plasma, bullets, be in the form of a pistol or revolver, or PDW style.
Art requirements: 3 inspiration images or one sketch.
Model requirements: moving parts, if it is mechanically operated, must be demonstrated. Charges or bullets must be modeled.
Due to a number of requests late into the apc challenge for a higher triangle count allowance, I have decided there will be no limit to the number of triangles for this month!

PRIZE!: SMASH is one cool guy, and is offering up a 1 Month XBox Live Gold Subscription Card to the winner!





OCTOBER: Air-defense system

Again, a creation from your mind, nothing in existence. The air defense system can be vehicle mounted or fixed position, and can be for any era! Past, present or future. It can be designed to shoot down the Da Vinci helicopter, jets and helicopters of the modern age or anything you can think of that might be a flight platform of the future. Will it shoot down attack aircraft or interplanetary carrier scale transports? IT'S UP TO YOU! (heck even maybe a flying sailship with rocket propellers as the target "airship") This is supposed to be a surface-to-air defense system, so nothing that's flying around engaging targets etc.




NOVEMBER: Combat Knife (week one)
AP mine or Hand grenade (week two)


note: November's contest will be broken up into 4 mini competitions. Either 4 one-week long competitons or 2 one-week and one two-week competition.

As per the monthly rules, the idea is to come up with something from your imagination. Since this is a simple object, only one sketch is required. Nothing larger than a small machette. fantasy, different materials, normal mapped or texutred, etc, as far as you want to take it. Entries will be judged 7 days from today.



week 2: Pretty open competition this week, but with a 2k triangle limit. one sketch required.



DECEMBER: Pirate raid boat or Raider guntruck (a small pirate craft for raiding and taking control of larger vessels or raider armed vehicle for capturing supplies, etc)

No sketch required, no poly limit, anything used must be of your own work.


FEBRUARY: Military Motorcycle

Motorcycles have been a quirky addition to the battlefield since ww2. They are particularly useful in quickly moving across open terrain, patrolling, carrying equipment, and, as seen in the current middle east conflict, RPG teams use them to hit and run.

No poly limit, your own design, sketches and/or inspiration.

Don't ask me stupid questions like CAN IT BE ON WATER or IN SPACE or FLYING. You know what a motorcycle is. I don't have a problem with a sci-fi variation like the star-wars speeders.

Examples of acceptable and unacceptable design styles:

good: dirt bikes
bad: harley or "chopper' style bikes

good: sith speeder, clone speeder
bad: ghost, final fantasy motorcyle



MARCH: Military Robot

your own design. anything goes, from a retro-futuristic style to a futurism "iRobot" style. Must be roughly human sized, weaponized or capable of weapon use, and autonomous.



AUGUST/SEPTEMBER: ANYTHING ALIEN

RETRO THROWBACK ALIEN BLASTERS TIME. Take a look back at the classic alien blaster, pistol, deathray, etc. Add a little bit of modern flair to it, if you'd like. No poly limit. Think of the classic grays and their tech!

I suggest this thread be stickied for the time being.

Also, a few suggestions.

We should All make threads for our APC project titled

MC#1 or MC: APC (Modelling Challenge, Armored Personel Carrier)

What is the criteria for Judging the concepts/models, who will be doing it?

Some possible categories for the award winners are

-Best Model
-Best Accuracy
-Best Concept
-Best Try :p

This competition is a fabulous idea and I hope to see many entries no matter how aesthetically pleasing they may or may not be.

You guys can post your work in the thread i create once august first rolls around or post in your gallery threads until that time :) I'll be the sole judge, that way as many people as possible have a chance to participate in the competition. If any of my friends choose not to participate, I may ask them to co-judge.

I'll announce categories for winners later on.

This is a rather cool idea, will observe closely. Can't wait to see some art. :)

I may be entering, I just made a sketch.

Sounds like fun. I think I'll whip something up to get my mind off of the fifty bajillion projects that are keeping me busy atm.

clarification: So the contest runs through August- we have until the end of August to submit our entries?

Also, if I submit something early but then decide I don't quite like it, can I fix it and have the newer version judged?

hmm neat idea, we had a similar contest with less guidelines over at GBX a while ago that Dominator started, the first contest went well but it received less and less attention afterwards... there was usually just a random category chosen, like an "Elevator" or "out post". I believe it was also timed...

idk if I'll enter into this though, I'd rather keep working on my map.

Needs moar buttsex.

I might dive in the pool for thise one >_>

Thinking about it

see the edit for more rule info and contest expansion.

prity gewd ide letin in konsepts for te kompititonlol i sed tit..12 vry nic of u snaf

Yes it was nice of him, thanks to that I'm now working with someone on the apc. Now we have a question about the 3 inspirational/ reference pictures... are those really required, because what if we want to base it off of something not made, and we can already imagine what an armored personal carrier would look like?

updated. 3 images required if you don't concept sketch.

Alright I'm entering. Once I get access to a scanner, I'll post the sketches I did, and show some work on the model.

I'm thinking about entering. Never modeled a vehicle before though.
Also nice sig snaf :iia:

I'm wondering, does an old fashioned Volkswagen Beetle with a lift, huge tires, and machine guns count as a "military" type of vehicle?

prizes?

He could offer an invitation to [censored] his [censored] [censored] as a prize.
I like censorship. It gives you the wrong idea about things.

Or maybe the right idea. :pervert:

I read it as something very wrong. fuck you internet

Ok, so here's the deal.
I've been doing visualization for yadda yadda yadda you don't care, the short of it is I am in hardcore "i don't care about polygon count" mode. My last model was 500k polys.

So like, I'm tossing around an idea here, and if I were allowed to do, say, movie style modeling, rather than game style modeling, I think I could make something stunning.

Of course, that would put many game-style models at a severe disadvantage, as getting similar quality out of that many fewer polygons would take a lot of time and effort.

I'm committed to this idea of mine now, so if you stick by your 7500 rule that's ok, I'll just post it in my Studio thread instead.

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I'm wondering, does an old fashioned Volkswagen Beetle with a lift, huge tires, and machine guns count as a "military" type of vehicle?

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no, and that's not an apc.

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

no, and that's not an apc.

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mb it could be if you made it one :D

improv beetle APC, I'd ride it

Anyone want to team up with me? Because I cannot design stuff...

Then find three images to base your model off of.

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

no, and that's not an apc.

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What if i put a shitload if armor on it and like 12 machine guns.

well the problem is i said nothing that exists. vw's exist, and armoring it and adding guns doesn't qualify it as an apc.

Lol, I know. I still think that would make an awesome vehicle though.

Well then, go ahead and model it, you just wont be able to use it for the contest.

Hmm... I'll bite.
Any specific details on what you define as an "armored personnel carrier"? Or does it just have to be armored and capable of carrying personnel?

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Hmm... I'll bite.
Any specific details on what you define as an "armored personnel carrier"? Or does it just have to be armored and capable of carrying personnel?

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armoured_personnel_carrier

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Originally Posted by rentafence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armoured_personnel_carrier

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My question was more geared towards more futuristic aspects, such as "does it have to be ground-based?" or "does it need to have wheels or treads?".

And again, I direct you to that wikipedia article. :rolleyes:

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Armoured personnel carriers (APCs) are armoured fighting vehicles developed to transport infantry on the battlefield. They usually have only a machine gun although variants carry recoilless rifles, anti-tank guided missiles (ATGMs), or mortars. They are not really designed to take part in a direct-fire battle, but to carry the troops to the battlefield safe from shrapnel and ambush. They may have wheels or tracks. Examples include the American M113 (tracked), the British FV 432 (tracked), the French VAB (wheeled), the Dutch/German GTK Boxer (wheeled) and the Soviet BTR (wheeled). More heavily armed and armoured are Infantry fighting vehicles, which are designed for direct combat.

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It can be wheeled, tracked, a mix of the two, hover, be amphibious, etc. So long as it carries troops, is your original design, and armored.

Or, like I said, it can be designed to fit into alternate history, such as a steam powered one with steel plates all over to protect from musket fire.

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Originally Posted by AdmiralBacon

My question was more geared towards more futuristic aspects, such as "does it have to be ground-based?" or "does it need to have wheels or treads?".

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Snaf said it could be a futuristic vehicle. A hovering APC would reduce the risk of triggering IEDs and Mines, therefore improving the odds that troops are delivered intact.

Make sure you make some cool looking hover jets/repulsers instead of just modeling an APC without a drive assembly.

EDIT: Fuck you Snafaroo.

Take a look at the hover tanks from battlefield 2142 for inspiration. Those things were awesome.

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Originally Posted by Freelancer

Snaf said it could be a futuristic vehicle. A hovering APC would reduce the risk of triggering IEDs and Mines, therefore improving the odds that troops are delivered intact.

Make sure you make some cool looking hover jets/repulsers instead of just modeling an APC without a drive assembly.

EDIT: Fuck you Snafaroo.

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Don't you think that the manner of propulsion to keep an entire APC airbourne...even to a hover. Don't you think that would trigger mines?

Might not. Current hovercraft can safely traverse over anti-tank mines, to my knowledge. However, if the skirt were to catch the trigger of a bounding mine, that would compromise the air cushion.

I am feeling up to some modeling

I can't design or draw!

http://gamerscreek.com/users/WMHunte...PC_Grovler.jpg

That sucks balls! ^

Red bits lift up, And I think a gun might go on blue part, I dunno. I want something the hovers, but I can;t think of anything :(

Nice sig.

Lol. Thanks, I got bored of normal stuff and just made something childish. Lol.

POWER RANGERS APC RESCUE GOGOGO!

There's some really nice pieces being made for this competition. You guys are getting more creative than I anticipated :) Keep up the good work, guys.

Two Questions:
1. Can we make dropships?
2. Can we make more then one submission?

a dropship is not an apc, and why could you make more than one submission? Seriously people.

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Originally Posted by Wave of Lag

a dropship is not an apc, and why could you make more than one submission? Seriously people.

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A dropsjip is armored, it carries people into combat, provides covering fire while they exit/enter and then leaves, sounds alot like an APC to me :D

Well if you really want to model it go ahead, I don't think Snaf will mind. He probably won't accept it as an APC.

Also an APC is an Armor Personnel Carrier, it doesn't necessarily provide cover fire.. Why a dropship though. The competition is supposed to be for APC's but if you can make a good model, make it. Competitions/Challenge is almost over :P

A dropship is not an apc and I will not accept it for the competition. APC's are land based with the ability (usually) for amphibious use.

Thinks about it, a Mi-24 Hind D is exactly how you described, being armored, carries troops into combat and provides covering fire, but it is not an apc, it is a helicopter gunship/transport.

What do you mean the challenge is almost over? I thought the contest was over at the end of this month.

Alright, land based it is, I'll save my dropship for later

Post pics. :v:

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What do you mean the challenge is almost over? I thought the contest was over at the end of this month.

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I never implied it was almost over :v: End of the month it is.

Yeah I knew it was at the end of the month. :P

Take your time.

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

I never implied it was almost over :v: End of the month it is.

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Silent was the one who did.

Hey, im from the UK...and i did not post an idea that could be stolen by other people.

e: thanks for the heads up Heathen

That sounds badass.

I'd suggest editing that post because thats an awesome and original idea. Keep it a surprise.

That's sounds retarded, no offense intended just stating my opinion on the idea.

Dont listen to him. He's Color Blind.

Heathen: It sounds totally badass to me lol
Silent Wind: wat
Heathen: the double decker bus thing
Heathen: Imagine
Heathen: putting armor and guns on a double decker
Heathen: and adding a train railer on the front
Heathen: to blow abandoned cars out of the way.

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Originally Posted by Heathen

Dont listen to him. He's Color Blind.
Heathen: putting armor and guns on a double decker
Heathen: and adding a train railer on the front
Heathen: to blow abandoned cars out of the way.

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ha ha exactly what i was thinking

Is it ok to have an APC that can fly? I dont mean just hover, like others have said, but literally fly. It would be able to go on land too, but i have in mind a futuristic apc that can go on both land and sky.

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Originally Posted by corndogman939

Is it ok to have an APC that can fly? I dont mean just hover, like others have said, but literally fly. It would be able to go on land too, but i have in mind a futuristic apc that can go on both land and sky.

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How the fuck, would an Armored Personnel Carrier fly?

With wings

Its the future, it doesn't matter.

that would be more of a dropship, as i explained somewhere else.

But if everyone's was a simple, land based, four wheeled, armored vehicle, this would be very boring. I'm not saying that flying APC is a good idea, because like snaf said, that would really be a dropship, but dont stick to plain boring ideas. I saw a covie one and I love the idea of the DD bus. Originality ftw.

Speaking of which, whoever wants that covie apc concept can have it, me and my partner got bored with it. Youll have to look a few pages back in the quick crit thread as I deleted it off my computer.

Well i just kind of had an idea in my head. and don't think that i just ripped off the "hovering" idea that was already said here and turned it into flying. I came up with the idea in the time that I haven't had internet for the past week.

But yeah, the idea is that the APC is mainly a land vehicle, but it has the ability to fly for a short amount of time, to be able to quickly evacuate if needed. As mentioned earlier, yes it would take quite a lot of power to make an APC fly, thats why it would only be used for a short amount of time to get out of tight situations.

I have an idea in my head of something that would be suitable as an APC, but I need confirmation on this; the vehicle must remain on the ground, but does it need wheels? It may be futuristic, but may it be unrealistic?

I think that's alright OD.

It doesn't have to have wheels or tracks.

Must it be textured as well?

Well, since this is a modeling contest and the rules don't tell you to skin it, I'm gonna have to say no.

Alright, thanks Srs Cat.

six more days left guys :)

Wave of Lag - winner of the first monthly military modeling challenge!

2nd place tie- ExAm and Conscars

3rd place- flyinrooster and boba

honorable mention (actually VERY close to third)- rentafence

Thank you very much to all competitors! You all did very well in this competition! Everyone's contributions are examples of well done work. Each one looks as though it fits into a battlefield role and time line.


Please check the opening post for the month of September's challenge! :) I hope to see more competitors and hope you guys enjoy it.

I wanted to take part in this too but my 3DS MAX doesn't work anymore on my computer :(. Getting my new computer in about a week so I'll take part in next months contest.

Can I donate a prize for it too to encourage a little more competition?

Ah, darn it. :) I'm not too good at coming up with concepts. I get artists block a lot. The contest for this month should be interesting though. gg to the guys in first second and third.

yay, i win

EDIT: Next...NO TRIANGLE LIMIT? yesssssssss

Right, September i was wonderin is it 1 to be attached to an arm or like if they have no arm a mechanically operated arm and stuff like that?????

http://www.modacity.net/forums/image...vatar155_9.gif

Dunno if I'll enter this one, my last idea was a gauss pistol which ended up looking like a slightly reproportioned Makarov but with less curves. The KT is sucking up all my creative powers at the moment.

hmm you say for a soldier, can that be an alien soldier or is it limited to human.

He said a sidearm, not a soldier. L2 read. I am a faggot because I used L2.

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hmm you say for a soldier, can that be an alien soldier or is it limited to human.

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if it's for an alien soldier, you had better make it convincingly ergonomic.

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Right, September i was wonderin is it 1 to be attached to an arm or like if they have no arm a mechanically operated arm and stuff like that?????

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uh... what?:confused:

Make a new thread for the new competition.

yeah, NO. Polar gave me permission over AIM to unlock the thread, you can talk to him about it if you like, but don't lock it again.

Resume discussion.

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He said a sidearm, not a soldier. L2 read. I am a faggot because I used L2.

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'L2' judge the context, you arogant post monger. lol reminds me of fish.

anyways, when you say 'ergonomic' do you mean it has to resemble/relate a pistol or a handgun in the way it is used/holstered?

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Originally Posted by Snaf

Your task is to create a science fiction sidearm for a soldier. It can shoot lasers, plasma, bullets, be in the form of a pistol or revolver, or PDW style.

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N U

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'L2' judge the context, you arogant post monger. lol reminds me of fish.

anyways, when you say 'ergonomic' do you mean it has to resemble/relate a pistol or a handgun in the way it is used/holstered?

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i mean it has to look like something that can be held instead of "lol dis cylindr iz teh handl"

you know, as in it has to look as though fingers are supposed to wrap around it.

Ill happily concept something if someone will model it.

hook me up on PM., im not guarantee'in but if its good i'll sure do it.

Before so, I would like to ask a question on the rules.
Why does it have to resemble a pistol or a revolver....? Some sidearms are small shotguns, and other small compact close qaurters/ medium range weapons.

Because small shotguns are breaching weapons, not sidearms in the capacity that is meant for self defense beyond point blank range.

hmm can it come under the category of 'side-arm' but not be in the shape of a traditional gun?

He said nothing about shape, really, but it has to be a pistol or compact automatic weapon type thing

heck, it could be upside-down, it just has to be a small secondary type weapon I think.

You guys think too hard... lol

My 5 minute entry, will do it "officially" later....


http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/4849/lolmy5.jpg


The only weapon for me.


E:read the rules.... lawl fthat

lawl, thats a trusty side arm.

Please excuse my lack of firearm knowlege but what is "PDW style"?