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for some reason i initially read that as co2, but then i thought it made too much sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by ODX
A few sources within microsoft have said they're hoping this new console to be their last, they'll just update it through software rather than doing better hardware in later consoles.
Might actually be the last fling with games consoles for both sony and microsoft, who knows?
At first first I thought that sounded crazy, but really ho much more horsepower do these consoles need? We're already at nearly photo realistic graphics and a near limitless amount of objects on screen, if this generation of consoles can hold their ground for 7-8 years, what will the next generation bring?
We are nowhere near photo-realistic graphics on consoles dude...
Ugh.... sorry but I almost face palmed at this. I'm sure others here can point out the specifics better than I can, but the current generation consoles' graphics are utter shit compared to current gen PC. But still, I guess it is possible for Microsoft to write off future consoles after the next one. This would effectively stonewall any future graphical advancements, since the major research and development branches of nVidia and AMD would likely go out of business. If all game developers were told that the current generation of consoles is to be the last in terms of hardware, then they would only develop within that hardware's limitations from that point on. Effectively, all games would be able to run on the crappy console hardware, and eventually all games would hit the same limit to their graphics. Demand for superior video cards on PC would drastically drop if none of the games coming out ever required them. Sure there would still be some PC exclusive titles, but we all know where that market is headed... Besides, I thought making new consoles would create profit? Forcing consumers to dish out $400+ on a new console to be able to keep up with the latest games seems like a pretty solid business strategy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
TL;DR, if xbox 720 is going to be Microsoft's last console, it would be an utter nightmare. Think about how CoD has used the same engine for the past decade. Now imagine if every game studio did that too.
Except, even today, the 360 is constantly being pushed to its limits. Where COD developers just crap out a game without really advancing the underlying tech (protip: there's more to tech than hardware).Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBaron
Except they lose a huge amount of money every time a console comes out. Consoles are always sold at a loss, the idea is to make the money back selling games.Quote:
Originally Posted by RedBaron
You must forgive masterz, he's a Mac user and knows not what gaming on a machine that's actually capable feels like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Unlimited objects and photo realistic graphics don't go together.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
The only games that come close to photo realistic graphics are racing games. They always have been and always will. Is it because their devs have some magic code that makes everything pretty? No, its because its a very closed environment. 99% of racing games force you in a certain direction, with no deviations, ala a track. Racing games are classed as not being overly complex, yes Forza has some amazing stats and tyre degragation etc etc, but in the grand scheme of things, they arent complex.
That allows devs to use the 'spare' hardware power to pump out the gfx, because they know exactly the sort of situation the game is in, so they can optimize it fully.
I personally think the guys at Euclideon have got the right idea.
Instead of making massively high poly models and massively high resolution bitmaps, a system which optimizes for the actual resolution shown on screen should in theory be far more efficient than the wasted detail not shown from the current method used in games.
This is so mean. :lmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Sorry Masterz.