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@Amit: You do have a point. Hence, only buy one if your existing computer needs no other upgrades...
...I want one. :saddowns:
Fantasic news people!
:D:D That means when it comes back, it should be working :D. Dispatched today, date given as delivery is Monday :)Quote:
Following extensive tests by our returns technicians, this item was found to be faulty. A replacement product will be dispatched as soon as the RMA is closed.
Now, time to demand the postage I had to pay.
Did they improve the mouse wheel for the G500? I have a G5 and the mouse wheel sucks.
Glad to hear it! Also good to know my diagnosis was on the money. :-3Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
My Krait served me well!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganon
It also lit up orange which was cool
no, deathadder
I would definitely buy a Deathadder. It's cheap and damned effective.
Part came today, plugged it in, turned it on and absolutely nothing.
Exact same problem, GPU has no video output, the GPU fan doesnt spin. I dont think its getting any power, which to me sounds like an issue with PSU.
What I dont get, is the company have said the part was faulty. The box of this one was sealed, so they havent bothered testing this one.
I might just have to go buy another damn PSU, issue is if I get one online, it won't be here till next fucking year.
E: Rang up tech support, guy was like "uh you should try another graphics card", freaking idiot if I had another I would have tried that duh. He goes, "it could be the mobo, graphics card or psu, but 600w should be good enough", oh thanks for narrowing it down you imbecile, even I knew that.
Hoping to get a multi-meter from a neighbor to test pci-e connectors, see if they are getting power or not. I want to go down to a shop in town, buy a new PSU, but I bet it won't work, then they wont take it back so I'll be stuck with 2 =\
shitty luck man.
also, anyone see this beast yet?
http://promotions.newegg.com/NEemail...mbo/index.html
i want that case! (and everything inside it)
*drools*
Funky case hah, expensive though :O.
I tested each pin on both PCI-E power connectors, they each get 1.5v, no idea if thats enough or not. But to me, it means power is going to the card.
So either its the graphics card (again) or the power supply.
Looks like I'm gonna have to take it to a shop in town, and get them to see whats not working and try some parts themselves. Problem is that might cost $100 =\
I'm very sorry limited that does suck, guess my first build was lucky that nothing went wrong.
I have a sneaky suspicion that again its the graphics card is faulty. Its definitely getting power, its just gay because even if I take this down to a shop, they work out the issue, I cant get a replacement part before Christmas, and I'm going back just after Christmas, the plan was to take new pc and carry on with uni.
Grr bloody hell >_<
May be a stupid question, but do you have your 4pin/8pin whichever you have CPU power connector plugged in? On my first build I forgot that and the lights and fans came on, but the card had a red light indicating not enough power and the computer wouldn't have a display.
Just a thought..
Got an Acer h233h yesterday because my secondary was failing. This is a lot more than I expected for 140 dollars.
Well, cya
Similar to mine cept yours is ~2 inches bigger, acer ownsQuote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
Yeah I double checked everything to make sure it wasnt a connection issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rook
Ive taken it down to a shop in town, they couldnt figure it out from first looks which took 45 mins, they tried another PCI-E card and powered it on but no output.
They think it might be the motherboard, apparently its not fully posting, it goes to FF on the mobo, but it freezes at the FF, it should cycle through other checks which it isnt doing. They're keeping it over night to try to work out what part isnt working, there probably going to have to fully disassemble it and test each separate part.
The guy tested it briefly in front of me and damn, he was so heavy handed I'm worried hes going to break something, he was ripping parts out, throwing cables all around.
Looks like me having use of it this year is rapidly decreasing. I'm getting fed up of it now, I get the feeling I will never get it working :(.
I always had a severe problem with the first three computers I build. It wasn't my fault though but it was very frustrating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
This computer I double checked everything, ordered expensive parts and didn't take any chances and everything worked so flawlessly. :iamafag:
If it ain't the PSU, try buying a different brand of GPU.Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
Limited, it's most likely the mobo.
While building my own computer, I went through 3 mobos before I finally found one that worked.
I was gonna buy a Biostar $120 mobo when I built my computer, but I've never used anything Biostar before, so I was a little skeptical of quality. I decided to spend $200 and get an Asus mobo, and I haven't had any problems with it. Plus the drivers are halfway decent on this one. The one thing you should never be cheap about on your computer is the mobo, and I'm glad I wasn't.
Gigabyte is a good brand and cheap... my mobo was $79. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128392
I have had bad experiences with Gigabyte and Biostar (how the fuck can you release a MoBo with a chipset that has problems running Windows and not even mention it??) .
It's Asus for me.
Got some news, I rang up earlier today, asked if they had any news, they said no but were going to try and put a new mobo in with my parts and see if it works.
I rang up 3 hours later (just now), they hadnt even tried it. :gonk: But, they were pretty sure the other mobo was broken, I said if they had any mobos of a similar spec, they said no, they only have like regular desktop ones. He basically said "no we dont have any gaming ones, ones you'd use to overclock".
Then again, I dont plan to overclock it, I dont plan at the moment to have dual SLI, therefore one PCI-E port will do the job, its 64 bit compatible and he said it will definitely work.
So, they will put the new one in, get it working, maybe by end of today but its unlikely, but tomorrow definitely.
I'm just worried I have crippled my pc by getting a lower spec motherboard, he didnt mention the make but yesterday I saw Asus, Gigabyte motherboards so hopefully won't be too shabby.
But, I should be able to get it working before Christmas.
Sry for double post.
Its working! Holy crap what a journey eh? Had to have a new motherboard, definietly have downgraded it, slightly regretting it because its horrendous lol. It does the job, but it only has 1 accessible PCI slot, which will be for my wireless adapter.
For those who want a laugh, this is the mobo: Intel Desktop Board DG41RQ, ugly as hell if I ever want to upgrade, I'll probably purchase a new mobo, but for now it will do I hope.
Windows 7 took like 7 minutes to install, clean install. Installing apps now, gonna attach secondary hard drive and pray it works because it has my backed up data.
Thanks for all your help guys :D Rep for all!
If you upgrade your motherboard go with EVGA since they are the best!
I had a similar problem with my new computer custom build and also coincidentally had the same power supply: OCZ ModXStream 600W.
I returned any parts I had suspected - the Power supply and motherboard (Evga P55 LE).
Now, I need help finding a new power supply and a new motherboard. =(
1st: I have a few motherboards I'm looking at:
- 3) Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD3 LGA 1156 Motherboard
- I am also open to any other solutions (USB 3.0, SATA 6G, ATX, good cooling/bios/memory/support/reputation, onboard audio, sturdy material, and also if possible, Firewire would be great)
2nd, For the power supply, could you find one that has:
- 1) a very good reputation, cooling, etc.
- 2) from Electronic Fry's (with availability by buying online then picking up in store---> Anaheim or City of Industry)
- Preferably 500-600 Watt and low priced for its power
If any additional info is needed, the current components that I still have are:
1) Intel Core i5 750
2) OCZ Platinum 4 GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 PC3-10666
3) Western Digital Caviar Green 750 GB HD 32 MB Cache
4) Gearhead DVD Burner Triple Format 24x DVD+/-R Drive
5) Antec Three Hundred
6) Temporary GFX: (ATI X300 SE and ATI 9250 PCI, just in case)
- Note: I am waiting for the ATI HD5850 price to lower and also for Nvidia, with their Fermi - when they have a card with similar performance with the ATI HD5850.
Thanks,
Bleach
No. Bad idea. They may make a good board, but compared to the likes of ASUS or DFI, they are relative newcomers to the motherboard industry. If you've got cash to drop and don't mind taking a chance, then fine. But if you want it to work right on the first try, go DFI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
It's DFI that seems the least trustworthy. They make a shit load of motherboards with various components. No overclocking consideration or skill and no good reviews.
And almost all of the ASUS motherboards I've ever dealt with have had some type of annoying problem. For example, my current Striker Extreme motherboard (and all of the other ones in existence) contain a manufacturing defect that prevents stable overclocking of Kentsfield quad core 775 processors. This was a problem with the reference board that they based their product off of, so really it was Nvidia's fault, however... The first EVGA 680i boards had this problem as well except when EVGA found out about the issue they offered to replace any boards that suffered from this with an updated revision of the board. All you had to do was open an RMA ticket and state that you had a faulty board that wouldn't OC properly and they'd send you a revised board.
EVGA also has the best customer support out of any hardware manufacturer that I've had to deal with, they're very accommodating! When the next processor series comes out from Intel for next gen sockets, I'm going to be building a new rig that's completely built from EVGA products!
What the fuck?Quote:
Originally Posted by AAA
DFI has the most overclocking consideration in my experience. They offer so many options in the BIOS that a beginner would likely fry the damn thing because he/she doesn't know what he's doing and messes with the wrong setting. I've also seen TONS of good reviews, and most have the disclaimer "NOT FOR BEGINNERS."
They aren't on the higher end of the pricing spectrum for nothing.
I might buy the lowest thing you have posted, but don't know if I need a power supply or not. I have an old Compaq Presario that I used to use with one. Is it a good idea to get one anyway?
Depends on the specs of the older PSU you're thinking of using.
It is Steady-state 235 watts. Also, the link for the gfx card in the first one says it's deactivated. And so is the RAM
Do not skimp on the power supply, because if you get a shitty one it will degrade your hardware and might pop and die taking many parts with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePlague
Get a quality 400 watt PSU, Corsair's 400 watt psu?, or a OCZ 400watt PSU(Heard they are now PC&P) So they are high quality to.
Corsair
OCZ
Seasonic
PC&P
Some ANTEC PSU's
Are all good quality PSU's and everybody but ANTEC has high end low wattage PSU's you should get a nice PSU to keep strong life in the hardware your going to buy. But if money is tight you can gamble with other companys but NO BESTEC or CODEMASTER psu's those two companies are terrable. Everything else 400-450 watts should do the job.
Yea I wouldn't be using that Steady-state, get yourself a nice Corsair (don't trust OCZ anymore since a piece of my old 850 Watt GameXStream fell out).
That sux:saddowns:. Some of OCZ's Power supplys are maid by Seasonic and other high quality, some can be really cheaply maid and whine, and not provide enough power, all Corsair stuff from 400watts and up should be perfect for your rig, corsair is the garentee :P.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
My OCZ GameXStream 600W hasn't had any problems in the past 1.5 years that I've had it. Hopefully nothing goes wrong with it. Maybe it was a simple manufacturing defect, just like your motherboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
Say you have a graphics card that's 325W, is a 1000W power Supply necessary?
No. It isnt necessary, really at all. There are few video cards that acctualy use that real wattage. A company can say this and that about a video card but under real world testing video cards tend to use less power then company recommend.Quote:
Originally Posted by AAA
HD 4870x2, HD 5970, and a overclocked GTX 295 will use that many watts at full load. So even if you got the fastest production maid video card in the world which was a HD 5970, a 650 watt psu would be fine for even a i7 and the whole system overclocked. But many people want room for upgrade and 100-200 watts above recommended just to be safe. So a 750watt basicly powers most dual card setups, and all single card setups.
Corsair power supplys like the 750watts are pefect example, and should do what they say and even more. 1000 watts is only neceassary for 2 HD 4870x2s or 2 HD 5970's or 2 GTX 295's with a GTS 250 physx card. The HD 4870x2's acctualy use the most power at about 930 watts full load on a overclocked i7 rig and yet dont have the performance of 2x GTX 295s or HD 5970s. HD 5970's max out at around 280 i belive at full load. But havnt checked reviews
Much Appreciation. Also, welcome to the forums. I haven't seen you around before.
+rep
I'm sorry for the double post, but I noticed your keyboard. I've been looking at that keyboard for over a year now and I must ask: are you able to hold down the arrows key < & ^ simultaneously while tapping the 0 on the numpad in a FPS game?? Because that's what has been holding me back from buying it. It's a dream keyboard.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chozenzzz
Nah I probably just got a lemon unit because from the looks of the damage when it happened, it looks like something heated up so much it caused one of the capacitors to literally come loose and fall out...Quote:
Originally Posted by Amit
Here's the original post I made about it.
Anyways, I have another GameXStream PSU in my dads computer and it's been running for around 6 years with no problem.
im thinking about building a budget rig and i wanna know what you guys think..
Mobo - GIGABYTE GA-MA770T-UD3P AM3 AMD 770 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail
Video Card - XFX HD-485X-ZDFC Radeon HD 4850 1GB 256-bit GDDR3 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card - Retail
Ram - G.SKILL 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBNQ - Retail
Proc - AMD Athlon II X4 630 Propus 2.8GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Processor Model ADX630WFGIBOX - Retail
Total - $413.96
i already have PSU, HDDs, Case and all other peripherals... so those 4 are the only components i need.
i originally wanted a phenom 2 x4, but its like $70 more, so i figured the athlon 2 x4 should suffice, especially if i OC it a bit.... would the lack of L3 cache really make that big of a difference?
the most demanding game i play right now is l4d2 and i don't do any video editing or shit like that.
anyway, id like to stay around 400, and get the best bang for my buck, anything i should swap or is this a decent rig?
One suggestion, Phenom>Athlon. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103680
I know it's dual core but go for I'd get it over the Athlon. (because I did) I also got that motherboard, nice board for the price.
Overall most everything you're thinking of is what I have and my shit runs reasonably, showed you FPS/tech settings over steam. I have similar RAM, G.SKILL 1333 speed. MY computer also uses a XFX 4850, however mine has 512MB of ram on it.
One thing to think about not every 550 CPU can unlock a 3rd or 4th core. Some of the chips are supposedly defective. Still, phenom supremacy.
and unlocking disables the temp sensors or some shit.
Phenom is black edition as well, so its easier to overclock.
Any one if these three coolers are the best for air cooling on the market.
The Mega Shadow looks the best imo and it provides the same cooling, I'd recommend getting it from FrozenCPU as I've dealt with them before and they had great customer support. I'm actually thinking of getting a Mega Shadow to replace my TRUE if I can justify it...
those seem to be intel only, shame since that one is damn sexy.
need am3 compatibility.
My brother uses that Zalman cooler bacon. Works like a charm for him.
Working on my first build.
Corsair XMS3 6GB (3x2)
GIGABYTE GA-EX58-UD5
Intel Core i7-920
Cooler Master Storm Scout
plus all the basic CD/DVD and HD stuff.
What gfx card should I get?
Nvidia :downs:
3x2GB at least you are doing it right. Good job on that. :iamafag:
No USB 3.0? With the price points you're looking at, better off. But, I can't disagree entirely due to the catches on the functionality strings... I guess.
but, if you consider. Take a look at this:
Asus: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131614
or hell, maybe even this...
Gigabyte: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813128413
Also, that new 690 II Advanced case is coming soon, should take a look at that here: http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=20066
Shit's sleek and agile. Hope I helped a little.
I did look into both, but I like the price I paid for the parts I currently have. My next build will be a bit more fancy than this one.
E: I also looked into that case, but I just like the way the scout was designed. :)
No uQuote:
Originally Posted by CrAsHOvErRide
Nugget, you want something in the ATi Radeon HD5000 series. Preferably an HD5850 or HD5870, though the HD5770 is also an excellent card.
+ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608007
wat ya guys think
I like. I'd rather take Corsair or Ballistix memory, but honestly at the high end it doesn't matter much. I also think you'd be better served buying an SSD over the Velociraptor and buying a regular HDD for mass storage and less intensive applications.
I considered both, but i've had a bad experience with Ballistix memory dying after short term use. Yet I completely contradict myself due to the fact I recently purchased 4 GB of Ballistix memory... Mushkin has served me well however, and I'm choosing to give them my business.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
I've considered just adding an SSD for the OS and a game or two along with the velociraptor in the new build (Have a 1 tb external that caters to all my needs as far as storage), but I'm not sold on all the benifits of an SSD for the price they charge for them. Mostly because I know little about them...Quote:
I also think you'd be better served buying an SSD over the Velociraptor and buying a regular HDD for mass storage and less intensive applications.
They have a MUCH greater throughput than traditional hard drives, and thus make better use of the bandwidth available in the SATA interface. So, a 64GB or 128GB SSD is a good option for your OS and your top pick of apps because they will load resources from the SSD faster than they would from a traditional HDD. I agree that the price per gigabyte of SSDs is outrageous and I don't recommend anything large, but since you are building a high-end system it would be wise to invest in a fast hard drive to make full use of the other components. Remember, it only takes one part to slow the entire rig down.
2Gs be a lot of cash bro
lol ganons build
ffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuu-
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835608018Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganon
May as well get the best if its just a few dollars more. Wonder if it even fits in that case lmao.
That HSF is huge though, if you want to put a push fan on the other side you'll probably run into issues with the memory DIMM's getting in the way.
I'd love to know if it would interfere with anything in my build actually. That thing looks awesomeQuote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
e: looks like it literally would be next to the plexiglass heh
Did you read my post? Should be fine in regards to hitting the side panel window, your issues are going to be with the cooler getting in the way of your memory slots.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganon
so you are saying it will be an issue if i have relatively tall RAM and dont get it orQuote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
take a hacksaw
Ehhhh? Just buy it and sort out mounting issues when you're building it! That's part of the fun :D
^^ This guy is nuts.Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
He's nuts about having fun :woop:Quote:
Originally Posted by Amit
Yes, the HSF will hang over the nearest DIMM slot to the CPU socket and prevent you from placing memory in it. You could always try mounting the HSF vertically instead of horizontally though, that could solve the problem... As long as the HSF isn't so huge that it doesn't interfere with other things on the motherboard, or hit the top of your case...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganon
:ugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ganon
Probably going to do this now, anyone here have experience with SSD's and can recommend one (especially size)? I'm thinking I'm going to use it mainly for w7, 2-3 games and a few programs (photoshop, vegas, after effects, cinema 4d, 3dsmax). And anything that I should know about installation etc... would be helpful!Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Intel's 80GB x25-m and a Samsung F3 for the rest of your files
Got a samsung drive it owns.Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
Western Digital Caviar Black drives are superior, and they still have 5 year manufacturer warranty unlike the other companies that only offer 3 year.
WD are more well known, don't think I'd still say superior though. :v
Many people have had their fair share of problems with all types of hard drives, including Western Digital drives. I'd say they're superior, though and I swear by them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rook
+1 for Western Digital.
+1 for Western Digital.
Everything including Samsung has died on me except for WD.
They're superior because Western Digital themselves are confident enough to continue offering 5 year warranties as opposed to the other manufactures, who have since dropped their warranties down to 3 years because they were loosing money on all their failed drives that they had to keep replacing.
*checks system specs*Quote:
Originally Posted by Rook
amd
*laughs*
(AoG) Rook: samsung drives for life
(AoG) Rook: acer monitors for life
Wilhelmina: say amd
(AoG) Rook: amd for life
"Hey guys I've got a great idea to counter Intel's new quad-core processors, lets build triple-core processors!"
- AMD Employee
Actually triple-cores are successful. Of course not for showoffs like you who can't differentiate between power and efficiency.
AMD 4 life btw.
The tri-cores compete with the dual cores from intel...Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
+1, the generally perform better in games as well as being cheaper :realsmug:Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
I have AMD for the price, I would however say that a comparable Intel would perform better in games.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bhamid
That's not the point, the point is that they decided to make a processor with three cores instead of going up by stepping's of two, like you're supposed to!
It was a dumb idea either way since Intel is better! :)
I believe it was actually ment to be a quad core but they failed at it and decided to make a triple core. It still has 4 cores however and if you get the right one you may be able to unlock and make use of the 4th core. cmiiwQuote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
Yes I know, that just outlines how much MORE fail they are.
I have no idea but intel has to fuck up some way, they probably just throw their bad batches away because they charge so much more per processor and people still buy it.
Intel is only good as long as you don't spring for that god-awful Socket 1156. Whoever had the bright idea of creating TWO simultaneously existing sockets is a bastard.
Also for the record: AM3 > LGA775 :downs:
1366 is the only way to go with current gen sockets, whoever thought down-stepping to DualChannel memory on the 1156 socket was a good idea after teasing us with TripleChannel should be shot!
AM3 isn't > LGA775, at least not when you're talking about the high-end processors for those sockets!
QX9650 > Phenom II X4 965 Black
No, but AM3 has a future and LGA775 doesn't.
c wut i did thar? :realsmug:
AMD = Bang for the Buck
Intel = Brute Power
If Intel would throw down their cocky attitude of such powerful CPU's and lower the prices a bit. AMD would literally be fucked. Bent over and all. They'd have stop dead in their tracks.
Lets face it, and although I may have AMD it doesn't mean I'm a fan, Intel needs to get their shit straight on quite a few levels as AMD has, then we'd finally be on the right track with these sockets, prices, and performance.
AMD isn't the best. Intel doesn't have a lot of their own pros either.
It's just going to take a few centuries for them to realize this because they obviously aren't thinking about it.
I'm always gonna buy Intel. Simple as that. Why? Because at each level the Intel processors are constantly better performing than AMD processors. The price might be a little higher, but you pay for that performance and then overclock it to the speeds of the next price level up.
That wasn't the case until after 2006. AMD used to always be better than Intel.
