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Originally Posted by teh lag

But some people are simply in a better position to hand out criticism than others - especially people like Snaf and Dane who actually have jobs. Yes, it can be painful, but also remind yourself of why they feel a need to be so harsh. Too often, people (by no means you, you're pretty cool) will simply not respond to criticism unless it's like that and they need to either get with it or get out. Yes, it's not ideal and sets a bad example, but that's also where the responsibilty of the new members comes in. That's the thing about being new - you can't act like you have all the experience of an industry veteran, because you don't. They speak with years of experince, so if they tell you you suck, chances are you really do suck (either in work or in attitude).

Of course, it's not right to be an ass without reason... but a lot of the time I think there's a pretty good reason. Some people just don't get it unless you yell at them. Personal grudges and outright trolling for the sake of trolling without a good reason are another matter, which would fall under more "general" forum bullshit. I hate drama like that as much as anyone else.

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Well I read snaf's post and yeah I understand the point of view when some of the members post crit but when they post it. But just because the newbie doesn't respond to casual crit doesn't mean that the critiques should go ahead and bash them just to get their point accross, I think there is a better way to handel this situation and there is, if the critique points out what's wrong and the creator does not listen or is being stubborn then A) It's not worth helping him/her because he/she does not understand what critisism is and how it is helpful for their whole experience in modding. and B) the critiquer should either repost or if they don't feel like it's worth it or just cannot stand the user, ignore them. That's why there is an ignore list. I'm just saying that you cannot entirely blame this on the newbies because they learn from the experienced and if the experienced don't treat them with respect how are they going to have any respect for the experienced. Now I know many of you might be like who is this guy talking he hasn't created a thing (yes I agree) but I still see what's going on and I really would like to help fix this issue. And yes I do take blame for the random nonsense posting because I too did do that but I realized back in october that it was wrong.

You must spread some Reputation around before giving it to teh lag again.
goddamnit.
and yes that was the first thing i tried to do after reading your post

I had been entertaining the idea of adding in a "Badge" system to identify members here and their purposes, to better filter out what causes all of this drama surrounding the professional artists on our forum. I got mixed reponses from the people I ran it by.

I see things from Masterz's point of view, and from Snaf's point of view. We want people to produce quality content, but if they can't do it or don't want to get serious with it, then honestly I don't want them to be forced to do it. I would have new members select their purpose for coming here upon registration; e.g. are you a player, coder, or artist? Are you a newbie (know little to nothing), casual (dabbled in it for fun), independent (I do my own thing and it works), or professional (I follow industry standards to produce content)? Do you want to be a newbie, casual, independent, or professional? What game engine(s) do you specialize in?

And the IDs would evolve as they stay based on direct edits by the staff, and feedback from members. e.g., NewUser123 came here and chose that he was a casual coder, and he wants to work towards being a professional. As he works, he builds on himself from criticism from other professional coders on the forum. Eventually, he produces a good amount of great stuff, and his status is changed to professional. TotalDick321 joins and claims to be a professional modeler. He posts his work, which looks like garbage, and when other professionals call out on it, he throws some hissy fits. Just short of being banned, it's clear that he is not professional, and his status is changed to a newbie modeler who is aspiring to be nothing more than a newbie. CoolDude456 joins as a newbie modeler and wants to go indie. Casuals, professionals, and other indies throw him ideas, tips, and techniques to get him started. He gets going and makes up his own concepts and techniques to make something different. He has a blast doing it, and people enjoy the work done, regardless of whether or not it's perfectly made or conforming to standards.

This is all prototype and example. I'm sure there would be much more to it, but I do think we need a way to ID people around here so shit stops flying.

P0lar that's a perfect idea. I would support that anyway I can.

That really sounds like a good idea.

Sounds neat. 'Cept I don't think I qualify as anything... =_=

Sounds awesome p0lar.

E: However, now that I think about it, you may want to have a few more badges than what you mentioned. This isn't necessary, but lets say someone does something for the community, and you want to recognize it. Give them a "contributer" badge. Let's say...someone wins Snaf's contest, or does an exceptional piece of work, you have "Snaf's Seal of Approval" and "Artist" badges.

These are just examples of course, but there are definitely more categories possible than just "coder, player, artist."

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Originally Posted by p0lar_bear

I had been entertaining the idea of adding in a "Badge" system to identify members here and their purposes, to better filter out what causes all of this drama surrounding the professional artists on our forum. I got mixed reponses from the people I ran it by.

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Halomods had this, I think. It worked out pretty well, except some people that I saw with nifty badges turned out to be total buttholes.

At least you didn't single out the asshole aspect =D

Game-Artist.net gives you a little Medal or gold star when you win a modeling or texturing competition.

I really like this idea though. I'd definitely like to have "Independent Modeler" under my name.

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Originally Posted by TeeKup

P0lar that's a perfect idea. I would support that anyway I can.

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