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October 23rd, 2009, 08:33 PM
AAA

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

My God.
October 23rd, 2009, 08:49 PM
Dwood

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

The fog looked better in the 1st pic on the page. now it's just :ugh:

Lessen the grey plz
October 23rd, 2009, 08:50 PM
jcap

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Still need someone to unwrap the cliffs =D
October 23rd, 2009, 09:23 PM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dwood

The fog looked better in the 1st pic on the page. now it's just :ugh:

Lessen the grey plz

I didn't change the fog at all.
October 23rd, 2009, 09:27 PM
Cortexian

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con

[14:14] Jcap: any idea what could be causing freelancer's problem?
[14:14] Con: i have an idea
[14:15] Con:
[14:09] selenticthepanda: I might have sent him the one without the waterfall
[14:09] selenticthepanda: I dont remember
[14:09] selenticthepanda: hahah
[14:15] Jcap: oh lol

:golfclap:

Oh well, that would explain it... lmao

Quote:

Originally Posted by higuy

I don't know where your getting this information, but as far as I remember, yelo battery release #3 (the latest) did not have a camo fix. DXTweaker dosen't work with it either, so what are you talking about..
E: After looking at this, striaght from the man who made it, it says no where theres a camo fix.
Your camo might be completley fine, my old 9500gt camo worked fine.

Without Yelo my camo does not show up properly (it's just see-through like on most Nvidia cards). With Yelo it shows up properly.

The version you linked me to is OLD as hell, latest is attached to the bottom of this post (it's been renamed to Open Sauce, I'm sure you've heard of it):
http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17758
October 23rd, 2009, 11:15 PM
Corndogman

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Does the waterfall emit any sound from it when standing nearby? I haven't played any recent builds so sorry if this is obvious. I was just thinking that a typical "WHAAAAAAAA" sound that large waterfalls tend make would be a nice touch.

Get Flibit on that if there aint, yo.
October 24th, 2009, 12:12 AM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Yes, Sel added a loud waterfall sound to that area. It sounds really good.
October 24th, 2009, 01:32 AM
paladin

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

That looks so bad ass. :realsmug:
October 24th, 2009, 12:17 PM
Reaper Man

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

I don't think it looks as believable as the first shaders you did for that thing, a couple pages back. Still looks cool, nonetheless.
October 24th, 2009, 12:27 PM
Advancebo

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con

last waterfall pic I swear! (it's done)

Yes, that little edge has been fixed.

I love it :iamafag:
October 24th, 2009, 02:00 PM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper Man

I don't think it looks as believable as the first shaders you did for that thing, a couple pages back. Still looks cool, nonetheless.

You would have to see it ingame. The problem it had was that the mask had a lot of noise and the mask itself wasn't animated (it had to be static). There were of a lot of details that just stood in place, so I tried to fix this with a blurrier mask and an additional animated map.
October 24th, 2009, 02:52 PM
Matooba

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con

last waterfall pic I swear! (it's done)

Yes, that little edge has been fixed.

I think the white water should be dropped down. Water flows over before it starts foaming. It would be more realistic.
October 24th, 2009, 04:17 PM
.Wolf™

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Hate to break it to you. This is just a game...
October 24th, 2009, 04:21 PM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Revelations is serious business.
October 24th, 2009, 04:23 PM
BobtheGreatII

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con

Revelations is serious business.

This. :nsmug:
October 24th, 2009, 04:31 PM
jcap

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

The lack of unwrapping is serious business.
October 24th, 2009, 04:56 PM
Higuy

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcap

The lack of unwrapping is serious business.

Ask Dee to do it.
October 24th, 2009, 05:07 PM
TheGhost

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Guys it's really not that difficult. (I don't have 3ds installed though)

It would probably only take an hour or two, assuming the cliffs are already well UV'd except for the seams.
October 24th, 2009, 05:09 PM
TeeKup

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

It could use a bit more...color too. >_>
October 24th, 2009, 05:21 PM
Reaper Man

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con

You would have to see it ingame. The problem it had was that the mask had a lot of noise and the mask itself wasn't animated (it had to be static). There were of a lot of details that just stood in place, so I tried to fix this with a blurrier mask and an additional animated map.

Can you post a video of the waterfall? I really wanna see it in action.
October 24th, 2009, 06:56 PM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Give it time to process. Sorry for the shit quality, but I don't feel like waiting hours for it to upload.

This video is still being processed. Video quality may improve once processing is complete.
meh
October 24th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Sel

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by higuy

Ask Dee to do it.

uh

no
October 24th, 2009, 07:07 PM
ThePlague

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Looks pretty awesome, nice layering.
October 24th, 2009, 07:08 PM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

I didn't make the model save for the fog planes. It's just straight out of the old bsp into the sky.
October 24th, 2009, 08:47 PM
PopeAK49

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Damn that's really good. I miss modeling. :smith:
October 24th, 2009, 08:49 PM
CrAsHOvErRide

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

That's some nice waterfall you got there :P
October 24th, 2009, 08:51 PM
Cortexian

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

That looks great, can't wait to tool lightmaps 0 0.000001
October 25th, 2009, 12:38 AM
Arteen

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcap

The lack of unwrapping is serious business.

With all the work Con put into the sky and waterfall, blatantly half-assed cliff UVs would seem almost insulting to his effort, to be honest.
October 25th, 2009, 12:50 AM
paladin

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Freelancer

That looks great, can't wait to tool lightmaps 0 0.000001

why not

1 0.000001
October 25th, 2009, 12:55 AM
Cortexian

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by paladin

why not

1 0.000001

Because that's what I meant to type :gonk:
October 25th, 2009, 01:12 AM
BobtheGreatII

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Map is looking pro, UV'ing aside, this map is pretty much awesome. Final release is going to be great too.
October 25th, 2009, 01:33 AM
Sel

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arteen

With all the work Con put into the sky and waterfall, blatantly half-assed cliff UVs would seem almost insulting to his effort, to be honest.

I'm open to volunteers, because I have no idea how to do them.
October 25th, 2009, 02:04 AM
TheGhost

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by paladin

why not

1 0.000001

Submit it to Amazon's cloud. I wonder how long it would take it ;-p
October 25th, 2009, 12:44 PM
Sel

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGhost

Submit it to Amazon's cloud. I wonder how long it would take it ;-p

About the same time, since halo can only use one processing core.
October 25th, 2009, 12:48 PM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

I'm open to volunteers, because I have no idea how to do them.

Well, I offered to tell you how but you turned me down so..
October 25th, 2009, 12:49 PM
Sel

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Con

Well, I offered to tell you how but you turned me down so..

Too busy with school and killing floor~
October 25th, 2009, 12:51 PM
TheGhost

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

About the same time, since halo can only use one processing core.

So you're saying running it on a quad core would not help?
October 25th, 2009, 01:13 PM
Sel

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGhost

So you're saying running it on a quad core would not help?

Pretty much, yes.

Atleast with the lightmapping process, the other cores could still take the strain of system tasks off of the core doing the lightmaps though.
October 25th, 2009, 01:16 PM
Higuy

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

Pretty much, yes.

Atleast with the lightmapping process, the other cores could still take the strain of system tasks off of the core doing the lightmaps though.

I believe e3p0's tool he released a while back had dual core processing. not sure though..
October 25th, 2009, 02:35 PM
Reaper Man

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

That waterfall looks kickass. What would be an awesome project in the future would be to have a map based at the bottom of one of those, surrounded completely by waterfalls :-3
October 25th, 2009, 02:49 PM
Con

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reaper Man

That waterfall looks kickass. What would be an awesome project in the future would be to have a map based at the bottom of one of those, surrounded completely by waterfalls :-3

Heh, I sketched a map concept like that once.
October 25th, 2009, 02:54 PM
Sel

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by higuy

I believe e3p0's tool he released a while back had dual core processing. not sure though..

Because I'm definitely going to use something e3po made.

:\
October 25th, 2009, 03:13 PM
Jelly

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by higuy

I believe e3p0's tool he released a while back had dual core processing. not sure though..

The extra load on your other cores was just his keylogger
October 25th, 2009, 03:31 PM
Dwood

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

Because I'm definitely going to use something e3po made.

:\

Do it on a Linux computer. :3
October 25th, 2009, 04:01 PM
Higuy

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

Because I'm definitely going to use something e3po made.

:\

Nothing is wrong with his programs. Don't listen to useless trash people with grudges.
October 25th, 2009, 04:05 PM
Ganon

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by higuy

Nothing is wrong with his programs. Don't listen to useless trash people with grudges.

e3p0 is a fucking cunt, hth
October 25th, 2009, 04:17 PM
TeeKup

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

Please stop being irrational in this thread. I'd like to see it finished so can we please get back on topic.
October 25th, 2009, 04:17 PM
SnaFuBAR

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by higuy

Nothing is wrong with his programs. Don't listen to useless trash people with grudges.

lol
October 25th, 2009, 04:23 PM
Higuy

Re: suoıʇɐןǝʌǝɹ [dıʍ]

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganon

e3p0 is a fucking cunt, hth

That is true, but that dosent mean people should be like "lol virus don't use" at all his stuff. Even Dennis took down all his programs becuase people said they had viruses.

I wont continue this, at least not here.
October 25th, 2009, 04:33 PM
Cortexian

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

The only reason the processing seemed to be going faster on my processor was because my processor is clocked a whole Gigahertz faster than Sel's.

If there were a multi-core or GPU rendering program for lightmaps I'm sure I could have it done in a day or less.
October 25th, 2009, 04:45 PM
chrisk123999

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

I actually pm'ed Dennis about why he removed it and I got this as his response:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dennis

The programmer has absolutely no credibility and is not trusted by this website. The tools he uploaded to this website performed insecure and potentially invasive functions that were not documented in the readme files. Besides that the programmer has intentionally hacked, removed and bypassed fixed limitations within the tools without regard to the full ramifications or understanding of why they were there in the first place causing compiled map files that give exceptions because the game cannot handle the parameters he bypassed.

Above and beyond all that the fact that the programmer imbedded code into some of his published tools that “phoned home” and supplied him with IP, PC specs and other information about the user WITHOUT THEIR KNOWLEDGE is cause enough to distrust ANYTHING that programmer creates. That fact was publicly exposed when after being insulted and in a fit of pique he remotely disabled one of his tools for all users. This website will NEVER trust anything produced by the programmer nor will we ever expose our users to that kind of untrustworthy and potentially insecure software.

I personally use his sapien and agree with Higuy.
October 25th, 2009, 05:04 PM
Maniac

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

Pm's should remain just that.
October 25th, 2009, 05:24 PM
chrisk123999

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

He's pretty much said the same thing on his forums. It was only a PM because it was about a topic he locked discussing it.
October 25th, 2009, 05:36 PM
Sel

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

For the record, I didn't refuse to do them, I tried and wasn't able to!
October 25th, 2009, 05:39 PM
Maniac

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

Use a plugin to help.
Textools, Roadkill, Deep uv, Unwrella there are lots.
October 25th, 2009, 06:51 PM
Con

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

It's better to just learn how to properly UV cliffs than relying on some plugin to do it all for you. If you tried and weren't able to, then come to me for help. Like I said before, I won't do them for you but I'll teach you how.
October 25th, 2009, 06:58 PM
DEElekgolo

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maniac

Use a plugin to help.
Textools, Roadkill, Deep uv, Unwrella there are lots.

Textools is a maxscript. Very useful.
October 25th, 2009, 07:09 PM
Maniac

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

Yes Textools is definitely one of the best scripts i have used.
October 25th, 2009, 07:10 PM
Con

Re: itt: sel refuses to unwrap cliffs, makes shitty map

Currently teaching sel how to fix these. Progress!
October 25th, 2009, 11:36 PM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

at 12:35 in the am

progress was made in unwrapping the cliffs
October 26th, 2009, 12:08 AM
BobtheGreatII

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

at 12:35 in the am

progress was made in unwrapping the cliffs

:neckbeard:
October 27th, 2009, 07:06 PM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

halo can suck a dick

thats all
October 27th, 2009, 07:10 PM
Ganon

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

delete rev
October 27th, 2009, 07:10 PM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

nevermind fixed it

ganon ur advice was too late sorry
October 27th, 2009, 07:11 PM
Ganon

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

delete revé
October 27th, 2009, 08:05 PM
Cortexian

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganon

delete revé

can't i already have the tags

E: Houston we have a problem!
October 27th, 2009, 08:36 PM
Gwunty

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

ehhh I assume the map was ripped with HEK+
and that hek+ fucked the lightmaps up
or the bsp
October 27th, 2009, 08:58 PM
Ganon

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

haha thats awesome, release that.
October 27th, 2009, 09:18 PM
Dwood

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ganon

haha thats awesome, release that.

Quotin' dis.
October 27th, 2009, 09:37 PM
Cortexian

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

I'm re-running lightmaps on my PC to see if that's the problem... But I doubt it.
October 27th, 2009, 10:39 PM
il Duce Primo

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

You have some corrupted bitmaps. Congrats!
October 27th, 2009, 11:12 PM
Con

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

i just finished the post-game carnage report background

http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/70/aaaaxv.jpg
October 27th, 2009, 11:43 PM
Cortexian

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by il Duce Primo

You have some corrupted bitmaps. Congrats!

Re-running lightmaps at 0 0.001 fixed the problem.

Waiting on good UV version to 1 0.000001
October 27th, 2009, 11:51 PM
LlamaMaster

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Cool map sel! I see you released it when you said you would! Damn, I wish I was as good as you. :<
October 28th, 2009, 12:55 AM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by LlamaMaster

Cool map sel! I see you released it when you said you would! Damn, I wish I was as good as you. :<

My release date was the 30th, I probably won't be far off, but it'll probably be late :(
October 28th, 2009, 10:45 AM
InnerGoat

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

nice!
October 28th, 2009, 02:13 PM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

rook has a little

surprise

for everyone

when we release this
October 28th, 2009, 02:30 PM
sevlag

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

rook has a little

surprise

for everyone

when we release this

>insert coming out of closet/gay reference joke here<
October 28th, 2009, 02:34 PM
Ganon

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sel

rook has a little

surprise

for everyone

when we release this

i bet it

has something

to do with

girl cartoons
October 28th, 2009, 03:06 PM
Kalub

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/2958/1256388127426.gif

in dis thread
October 28th, 2009, 06:20 PM
Cortexian

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

The version Sel likes:

The better version:

Creds to Ballscars for the general idea and theme.
October 28th, 2009, 06:26 PM
TheGhost

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

2nd is better
October 28th, 2009, 06:27 PM
Con

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

edit: didn't realize this was a desktop
in that case, the second one
October 28th, 2009, 06:30 PM
paladin

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

I 3rd the 2nd
October 28th, 2009, 07:03 PM
Dwood

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

I 2nd the third. owai-
October 28th, 2009, 07:25 PM
paladin

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Probably can help when I get home Sel/Jcrap. With traffic, itll be about an hour and a half.
October 28th, 2009, 09:26 PM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheGhost

2nd is better

^
October 28th, 2009, 09:32 PM
Cortexian

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

I like this one the best, only a very small bit different than the second version.
October 28th, 2009, 10:50 PM
paladin

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

This...

To this...

This...

To this...

This column no longer has a vertical seem, but there's still one around the top. Cant do much about that. :\

plus a few others I didn't render. Jap I sent you the max file on aim.
October 29th, 2009, 12:01 AM
English Mobster

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Seam*
Sorry, it was driving me insane.
October 29th, 2009, 12:13 AM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

I think it fits the map real well :) :)
October 29th, 2009, 12:35 AM
paladin

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Lol, is that the vehicle you were talking about last night?
October 29th, 2009, 12:38 AM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Yup

lol
October 29th, 2009, 12:55 AM
paladin

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Haha, you described them perfectly.
October 29th, 2009, 01:04 AM
TeeKup

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

What is that HORRENDOUS vehicle...D:
October 29th, 2009, 01:23 AM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=3184
October 29th, 2009, 01:28 AM
Con

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Keep it, it makes the map look even better.
October 29th, 2009, 01:28 AM
TeeKup

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

That's disgusting....
October 29th, 2009, 01:30 AM
Con

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

It must be covenant, look how purple it is!
October 29th, 2009, 01:39 AM
Sel

Re: itt: sel begins unwrapping cliffs, makes shitty map better

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeeKup

That's disgusting....

It's also 2 summers old, and it's staying in the map.

Atleast as a /veh thing, lol

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