The Official CMT SPv2 Promotion Items Thread (new pics as of 8-25-07)

The new assault rifle is sechs slamming you in the face.

I just want the SMG to have better melee animations. The ones in Spv1 were terrible, it looked like as if you were quickly lowering your weapon.

yea that's what i thought too

the new smg ones arent much better, you just lower it, but a little more to the right

They probably changed it by now...I hope. The H2 melee was great, it looked like a total nosebleed smack.

I like flyinrooster's interpretation best. You could bash someone's face in with that.

What are you guys talking about (now starting an argument)??
The SMG animations were awesome it was so fast that you could double meele. Plus it was original it doesn't have to be some crazy amazing animation like the old AR. Plus it was more realistic I mean come if your in MC's position would you do a fast quit melee or a sweet artistic one....

I don't think it looks practical really either. I mean he raises it and brings it down. It doesn't really look like hes actually aiming for the enemy either too. But thats just my opinion......

well, unless, during the melee, the SMG's butt of the gun raised forward a little more then it would look like a nose bleeder.

The gun should be angled upwards more so that it looks like MC is hitting people by bringing down his forearm, kinda like a backhand, but with the bottom of a closed fist. The speed and damage should remain the same. The way it was in SPv1 didn't look like it had any power behind the blow, since it was just bringing down the bottom side of the silencer onto someone's head with a short weird swinging motion. I didn't really care though since I barely used the SMG in SPv1, since the silencer turned me off. I will use the un-silenced one though...

What I'm saying is that most of the SPV1 melees looked like they didnt hurt at all. I don't want it to be an uber artistic one. Look at the SMG, PP, and PR. And how were the SMG animations awesome? The melee was basically lowering your gun down then bringing it back down. I don't see how an elite can bleed uncontrollably by just lowering your SMG...

The SMG was the Hunter hunter. Personally one full load of it will take it down. And it doesn't matter if the butt is in the air or not. Come on the melee is perfect. It is more of a hammer strike than a backhand because he brings his hand up then down with great force and speed. So in reality that animations is down right sexy. You guys just want everything to be done with fancy motions. Let that gun be different.

Are you talking about the spv1 or multiplayer melee?

SPv1 Melee.

Dude...how can you say that? The melee was absolutely not perfect. Far from it. Great force and speed? It didn't even look like it hurt at all! Either I'm drunk or you just don't know what a great melee looks like!

Well I like it and to me its amazing.

WOW ok you guys misinterpret each other,

FANCY= bungie's halo 1 pistol animations(aka retarded)
PRACTICAL= CMT/Zteam's shotgun animation, (badass smack in teh face)
IMPRACTICAL= CMT spv1 smg, plasma pistol, plasma rifle. and heres WHY


smg: you quickly lower the weapon. sure, its effective if your enemy is suckin your cock, but not if theyre attacking you from the front.

plasma rifle: same as above

plasma pistol: looked cool, but it was a SLOW punch. and a badly aimed punch at that.



NOTE: im not trying to offend the animator. the animations were good, but not realistic, and have since then MUCH improved.

The current melees are better though. The Multiplayer maps were an improvement even though the plasma pistol was the same. But thats a couple months old and I'm sure its been changed.

y'know what?? What if the Silenced SMG and the SMG had different Melees?

Silenced SMG: Would do a strong jab. With a slight pull back of the arm and than a spontanious force with the barrel to the designated target.

SMG: Would be sort of a strong "Jack-'em-up" move by moving the gun to the upper left to the lower right like a slash with the gun's handle OR it could do that, and stop half way on the gun's way back and strike like CMT's Pistol Melee. Therefore, it would look a tad more critical.

That sounds kickass...

I liked the chaingun's melee. There was a sound of beer bottles rattling around. Or in this case it would be fuel canisters.

beer bottles are just as fun though. well actually, ive never used a chaingun in reality so im not sure

...You think anybody on these forums have?

maybe. some of the halo ce players are such weapon fanatics that they could possibly have used a chaingun.

The biggest gun I've ever used was a .223 rifle......I really don't know where you would go to try out a chaingun though.......

lol... my grandpas house for one... lol

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Originally Posted by ironclad

WOW ok you guys misinterpret each other,

FANCY= bungie's halo 1 pistol animations(aka retarded)
PRACTICAL= CMT/Zteam's shotgun animation, (badass smack in teh face)
IMPRACTICAL= CMT spv1 smg, plasma pistol, plasma rifle. and heres WHY


smg: you quickly lower the weapon. sure, its effective if your enemy is suckin your cock, but not if theyre attacking you from the front.

plasma rifle: same as above

plasma pistol: looked cool, but it was a SLOW punch. and a badly aimed punch at that.



NOTE: im not trying to offend the animator. the animations were good, but not realistic, and have since then MUCH improved.

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If you want to see slow punches, go play Marathon.

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Originally Posted by ironclad

lol... my grandpas house for one... lol

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:lmao:

On another subject: Why would Samus start off on a damn chaingun. Completely went off subject...possibly happened because......he was drunk, mb? So yeah, we know there's no chaingun in Halo CE created yet.

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Originally Posted by AAA

:lmao:

On another subject: Why would Samus start off on a damn chaingun. Completely went off subject...possibly happened because......he was drunk, mb? So yeah, we know there's no chaingun in Halo CE created yet.

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Yeah, because there's no chaingun in SPV1. :fail:

Why isn't the porta turret getting any love? I would actually prefer that over the chaingun, and it might even have infinite ammo... At any rate, those two guns are the same to me.

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Originally Posted by ExAm

I like flyinrooster's interpretation best. You could bash someone's face in with that.

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Yeah, I got that from my dad. I had asked him what they showed him in the Marine Corps, and thats similar to what he showed me. It allows for hitting multiple times =p. Anyway, I quite liked it myself. I am going to reanimate the smg, and I will try and get them that way again.

[edit] For those who don't know, he was referring to this animation:

http://mpbadmin.byethost3.com/files/.../smg_melee.avi

(copy link location and paste it yourself, or else.)

Those were the older version, as I had taken the very beginning out, smoothed it some, fixed the weird end, and made a few more changes, but that is the gist of it.

I want the portable chaingun. It will be awesome.

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Originally Posted by Ralex123

I want the portable chaingun. It will be awesome.

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Unless you can concoct a system of statistics and potencies that would distinguish it from being a carbon-copy of the Machine Gun, there isn't much of a reason to have it.

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Originally Posted by flyinrooster

1. I am going to reanimate the smg, and I will try and get them that way again.

2. (copy link location and paste it yourself, or else.)

3. Those were the older version, as I had taken the very beginning out, smoothed it some, fixed the weird end, and made a few more changes, but that is the gist of it.

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1. I liked the concept behind SPv1's reload; it was original, it can potentially look great, and it makes sense. Yes, the reload itself was rather drab quality, but I liked that the receiver of the magazine wasn't dispensed and that the magazine actually had something to clip into rather than simply onto.

The anims in MP were merely a take on the H2 reload... they were good quality, yes (except the empty chamber reload looked a little flimsy), but if the idea behind SPv1's reload was revisited I'd just be the happiest little 6'4" boy in the world.

2. *Preferably in Microsoft Word. OR ELSE.

3. So essentially, it'll turn out like the original AR melee?


Also concerning the SMG, add detail to the model... PLEASE. It has the potential to look as good as Snaf's Mac, but right now it just looks like someone gathered a pile of dog turd and molded a machine pistol out of it.

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Originally Posted by Dole

Unless you can concoct a system of statistics and potencies that would distinguish it from being a carbon-copy of the Machine Gun, there isn't much of a reason to have it.


1. I liked the concept behind SPv1's reload; it was original, it can potentially look great, and it makes sense. Yes, the reload itself was rather drab quality, but I liked that the receiver of the magazine wasn't dispensed and that the magazine actually had something to clip into rather than simply onto.

The anims in MP were merely a take on the H2 reload... they were good quality, yes (except the empty chamber reload looked a little flimsy), but if the idea behind SPv1's reload was revisited I'd just be the happiest little 6'4" boy in the world.

2. *Preferably in Microsoft Word. OR ELSE.

3. So essentially, it'll turn out like the original AR melee?


Also concerning the SMG, add detail to the model... PLEASE. It has the potential to look as good as Snaf's Mac, but right now it just looks like someone gathered a pile of dog turd and molded a machine pistol out of it.

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Did he say he made the model? I saw that nowhere.

No, that was just kind of an off-topic request. I hate that model with a burning passion. It's skin and shaders don't help much, either.

^^^^^^^^^

The gun is ancient. It's from September 2004.

how does the new one look?

Better than the old one. DUH

There is no new one.

Meh, I find the melee similar to the Assault Rifle's, but not quite like it. This one focuses on hitting up left more than just left. But it's however you view it. Anyway, I am planning to give it Halo 3 like animations. I won't attempt to copy it exactly, but I will imitate the style.

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Originally Posted by flyinrooster

This one focuses on hitting up left more than just left.

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That's actually how I pictured the H3 AR melee to be before Bungie released the Public Beta. I thought it was going to be kind of a cross between the two Shotgun melees, but it ended up just being modified BR anims.

Sorry Dole, my mistake. I meant the chaingun like in Halo 3. You can mount it, then unmount and carry it, like Masters explained in the Field Guide.

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Originally Posted by flyinrooster

Meh, I find the melee similar to the Assault Rifle's, but not quite like it. This one focuses on hitting up left more than just left. But it's however you view it. Anyway, I am planning to give it Halo 3 like animations. I won't attempt to copy it exactly, but I will imitate the style.

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Actually if you can export h2 IK models then I can give you the whole sha-bang. I can't seem to get it to work. :X.

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Originally Posted by Ralex123

Sorry Dole, my mistake. I meant the chaingun like in Halo 3. You can mount it, then unmount and carry it, like Masters explained in the Field Guide.

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You don't have to apoligize for anything. :P

But to let you know, the Machine Gun currently uses that system that is described there: pick up collapsed turret --> setup the tripod --> mount the gun emplacement or destroy the stand --> pick up the remaining gun as a handheld weapon

Given, a Chaingun could replace the Machine Gun outright, but work on the Machine Gun began over a year ago; it shaped up to be a great piece of work and it would be a shame to deprive such a piece of content of use, especially considering it it wasn't in the release candidates.

^ Thats awesome....

Gatling guns, or any type of rotary gun, are not chain guns. I wish more people knew this :/

Its just sorta imbeded into people that Gatling Gun=Chain Gun.

In my opinion Gatling Gun sounds much more badass.

Gatling guns lack the rattling chain noise...it's just a loud buzzing sound coupled with scraping gears.

for CMT: think you guys can finish SPv2 in 2 weeks? (give or take 2-3 days)

No.

It'll probably be released during school year or around winter. I'd say add more fucking ownage stuff and release it next June 25. I can wait. *taps foot*

wow so far away... after halo 3. kinda misses the point

There is no point in releaseing Spv2 after Halo 3 because nobody would play due to the fact that everyone will be playing Halo 3.

Halo 3 will basically steal SPv2's thunder if Spv2 is released after Halo 3.

Im not goin to play it. :(
Spv2 is way cheaper.

I'll play SPv2, I don't have a 360 to play Halo 3 on.

I'll play SPv2 until I can afford a $60 game. That and until I can find a copy in store.

frankly im getting both.

You have more to worry about the CMT members wanting to work when h3 is out, more than anything else. We made a huge step foward today though, Happiest moment of the development of the mod in a LONG time.

Mind giving us details or is it still "hush hush"?

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Originally Posted by KntTader

There is no point in releaseing Spv2 after Halo 3 because nobody would play due to the fact that everyone will be playing Halo 3.

Halo 3 will basically steal SPv2's thunder if Spv2 is released after Halo 3.

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You mean a video game mod would be pwned by a completely new video game that's going to end the series?

I totally never saw that one coming :embarrassed:

Quite amazing around this section, all these replies remind me of the 05 thread Coag gone gold. bad good times. :)

they got their ai to throw grenades today. yay 4 cmt

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Originally Posted by Masterz1337

You have more to worry about the CMT members wanting to work when h3 is out, more than anything else. We made a huge step foward today though, Happiest moment of the development of the mod in a LONG time.

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hf :')

...hmmm... happiest moments, happiest moments. WAAAIITTT. is it snack time already? jp. So... you guys are redoing more stuff? Please take into consideration the changing of the spikes. It just bothers me a bit.:)

So Masterz1337 how did you fix the AI so they would throw grenades and what was causing the problem?

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Originally Posted by KntTader

There is no point in releaseing Spv2 after Halo 3 because nobody would play due to the fact that everyone will be playing Halo 3.

Halo 3 will basically steal SPv2's thunder if Spv2 is released after Halo 3.

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That would be like saying people won't play Crysis because of Halo 3... :eyesroll:

If anything the release of Halo 3 will cause interest in SPv2 to linger because of renewed hype for the series, unlike that of the original CMT campaign in which for the most part died down after a week.

HTC/HEK+ early build is what both the zteam and CMT tagsets are based on. The tagset I use dates back to november 2004. The old scripts in the rograms don't set the grenade velocity right. The AI realizes it can't throw without hurting someone in the collateral damage, (it'self included) and therefore, can never throw.

And will you be releasing these fixed tags, like the 343 GS animations, Masterz?

I released the 343 Model animations over a year ago. It's on CMT website.

No he asked if you will release the fixed tags to the grenade throwing AI, LIKE when you released the fixed tags for the 343 GS animations.

Probably not. It's pretty simple to fix on your own, I'll probably write a tutorial or a guid to HEK+ script errors later.

I am awaiting this more than H3. Partly because I don't have a 360. And partly because I think that Halo 3 is gonna be just like a turtle with balloons tied to its back (thanks to those of you that get that)

And the fact that it's custom =D

Updated

Those pics are hard core, good work

The hunter looks cool! But i just wish there could be a none-devmode and devmode version of the SPv2 campaign...

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Rofl and who was the smartypants that decided that the dropships should land on the most reinforced spot of this beach?

Srsly its gonna be epic :D

OMG nice job

Is that a red rocket I see on the top of the first pic?

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Originally Posted by Archon23

Is that a red rocket I see on the top of the first pic?

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Not so much a red rocket as a rocket with a red lensflare on it. Why it's red is beyond me, but I think it looks neat.

Eh I sorta assumed it was the red tint of a homing rocket aka SPv1, but I'm probably wrong.

Love the grunt charging the pistol........I have a bad feeling I'm gonna be running around with a no shield beep a ton of the time.

The amount of jackals is frightening. Though I don't think they're the things I should be worrying about.

Yeah the reds rockets are the homing ones. The one in the screenshot is from the Pelican I guess.

EDIT : Do I saw a new turret in the third picture ? =O

I think I see a flying brute shot. What is that brute holding that's behind the hunter near the rocks?

That would be a standard brute shot.

so, hunters > brutes right? in halo 2 sometimes a brute could beat a hunter in melee, which logically doesnt make sense. big metal guy with a massive shield for a club vs ape. ape shouldnt win this isnt dragonball z ffs

Wow TSC looks way better those hunters look great but aren't wraiths on the beach a little too much, and isn't that a lot of ai? Also what did you guys do to that water... it looks way better.

I think the Wraiths give a huge challenge that the original landing really didn't (besides the whole avoid nades on the ground so you don't get blown up by a chain reaction thing). Besides the rockets should take care of em quickly.

probably a new skin. I think CMT added some script that made the water look more realistic, including what appear to be waves crashing on the shore.
As for the wraiths, they were probably delivered by the unseen phantoms before the UNSC troops arrived. After all, as the covies found that place first, it would make sense they had a strong defense set up in case anyone else tried to get there.

i thought cmt couldnt add scripts

Yay, an update! Now I can see that those of us with computers that are 2-3 years old can't play this on high settings (at least 20 enemies at the beginning of The Silent Cartographer...). Seriously though, this is looking better by the update (shouldn't it?).

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Originally Posted by Edward Elrich

probably a new skin. I think CMT added some script that made the water look more realistic, including what appear to be waves crashing on the shore.

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:\ Scripts don't do that. It's just some shader changes. Nothing more. And the waves have always been there.

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Originally Posted by ironclad

i thought cmt couldnt add scripts

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You will improve the grammar in your posts or I will delete them. Here are some things that may help you.

The period : .
-Used to end a sentence.

The question mark : ?
-Used to end a question.

The exclamation point : !
-Used to end a sentence with emphasis.

The comma : ,
-Used where a natural pause in speech occurs within a sentence, or to provide separation between two related ideas in a sentence. It never should be used instead of a period, thus avoiding hard-to-read comma splices. Example : We're going to the beach, but it might rain.

The shift key
-Used to add capitalization where necessary.

The apostrophe : '
-Used to indicate possesives or contractions in words. Example : This is John's book. We're giving it back to him. It should be noted that an apostrophe is never used to indicate if a noun is in the plural.

Lol, wow, you should be a teacher.

wow, i feel so offended that my punctuation has been challenged. so i forgot to use a period once or twice, lots of forum go-ers can hardly even spell. what are you a punctuation nazi?

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Originally Posted by teh lag

:\ Scripts don't do that. It's just some shader changes. Nothing more. And the waves have always been there.



You will improve the grammar in your posts or I will delete them. Here are some things that may help you.

The period : .
-Used to end a sentence.

The question mark : ?
-Used to end a question.

The exclamation point : !
-Used to end a sentence with emphasis.

The comma : ,
-Used where a natural pause in speech occurs within a sentence, or to provide separation between two related ideas in a sentence. It never should be used instead of a period, thus avoiding hard-to-read comma splices. Example : We're going to the beach, but it might rain.

The shift key
-Used to add capitalization where necessary.

The apostrophe : '
-Used to indicate possesives or contractions in words. Example : This is John's book. We're giving it back to him. It should be noted that an apostrophe is never used to indicate if a noun is in the plural.

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oh shit, i talk like that...

the update equlas win though, pretty flippin sweet. i hope those ai gunners in the peli's can pump out some rockets/gauss's into those wraiths.

i love the giant battle feel of tsc's opening. another reason im hyped for halo 3 (bungie constantly bitches about epic battles and shit).

i've been w8ing for a tsc update.

@ the 8-20 pics, tSC is gonna be so epic. :awesome:

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Originally Posted by Rook

@ the 8-20 pics, tSC is gonna be so epic. :awesome:

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Epic? On normal most likely. But on Legendary it will be suicidel. You'll die within 30 secs if your not a good tactition.:p

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Originally Posted by ironclad

Wow, I feel so offended that my punctuation has been challenged. So i forgot to use a period once or twice, lots of forum go-ers can hardly even spell. What are you, a Punctuation Nazi?

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Look at which forum your at. Then ask yourself why you should follow proper grammar and spelling.

H2vista.net = Expert typer, Youtube = Embryo typer. Some places are more strict about spelling/grammer then other places.

yeah i know that. its not like i havent been here for a long time. Its just i dont really feel like triple spell checking everything i type. the point is when i say something you damnwell know what im talking about.

I get the feeling that trying that on Legendary is going to be like D-Day...but worse.

Well it'd probably be more like if we traveled into the future, stole some futuristic machine guns, a few artillery pieces and then traveled back into time, gave it to the axis and told them to blow the shit out of the landing allies.