Modacity shooters' thread

@Bobblehob:

5.56 is a rifle round. It's a medium-powered rifle round, but a rifle round nonetheless. There are some really tiny guns firing 5.56 that are being spun off as PDWs, but the recoil and magazine girth puts them outside of what I would consider (and what should be considered) PDW territory and into carbine/subcompact territory.

PDWs fire special HV cartridges, be they brand new (5.7x28mm or 4.6x30mm) or modified pistol rounds (9x18mm AP comes to mind).

It's like SMGs vs. Assault rifles. Some people call the AKS-74U an SMG because it's small enough to be one. I call these people idiots. SMGs are select-fire and take pistol cartridges, assault rifles are select-fire and fire rifle cartridges. The AKS-74U fires 5.45x39mm, a rifle cartridge.

Now, SMGs and PDWs is a grey area. All PDWs are SMGs, but not all SMGs are PDWs. Hell, PDW itself is misleading. An SMG is a class of firearm, and a PDW is a gun used for a very particular purpose. That means that, technically, anything used for personnel defence is a PDW (MP5, M4, AKS-74U, UMP,etc.). Since we now have specialized guns for this job (MP7, P90, KA PDW, PP-2000, etc.), though, PDW gets treated as a class.

In Short: PDWs are useless, bring back the .45 cal SMGs of yesteryear.

Im fine with something that can is good at short range and has a high rate of fire, but is also accurate long range as well :\

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Originally Posted by TVTyrant

In Short: PDWs are useless, bring back the .45 cal SMGs of yesteryear.

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PDWs are designed to be lighter than a rifle in every way (including recoil) but powerful enough to defeat body armour like a rifle can. A PDW will punch through body armour at a range, a .45 won't.

I'm still waiting on that .50 AE SMG.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

PDWs are designed to be lighter than a rifle in every way (including recoil) but powerful enough to defeat body armour like a rifle can. A PDW will punch through body armour at a range, a .45 won't.

I'm still waiting on that .50 AE SMG.

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Mostly the 50 AE SMG. WHo cares if it wont penetrate the vest, three rounds will crush all their organs :iamafag:

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Originally Posted by TVTyrant

In Short: PDWs are useless, bring back the .45 cal SMGs of yesteryear.

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http://www.unfinishedman.com/wp-cont...9/Krisssmg.jpg

That's not from yesteryear! It can't hold a candle to a 1928 Thompson with a 100-round drum.

im just imagining the army pulling a bad company and actually issuing tompsons. that is funny.

That would be fucking epic.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

That's not from yesteryear! It can't hold a candle to a 1928 Thompson with a 100-round drum.

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This was exactly what I meant by yesteryear lol.