Doubt it, I'm sure they realize there's a huge market right now, but then again you could be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
But if your wrong, my body is ready for cheap prices like back in the 90's.
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Doubt it, I'm sure they realize there's a huge market right now, but then again you could be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
But if your wrong, my body is ready for cheap prices like back in the 90's.
:parrot:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan094
:eng101: you're*Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan094
Nargh fuck you, to excited over this shit to give a fuck about spellingQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon
Deal with it.
74u....that is all.
Gun is a PoS. It's more of a trophy item than an actually useful firearm, which is why they replaced it with the AK-105.
Still love the look of it. Really any authentic, wood furniture Russian AK would be nice at this point
Wood stock Russian AKMs? *Dies of over salivation*Quote:
Originally Posted by PenGuin1362
Can't wait, cheap cheap cheap prices.
Also.....pricey sucker, Mosin Nagant 91/38 Sestroryetsk
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=276456789
The description says why. Its a collector's piece, not something youd want to take to the range every weekend.
Still though D:
Since its considered an Antique if I did decide to bid on it I would not need an FFL, just a doorstep. But then again I would never shell out THAT kind of money, I could but it would really hurt me in the long run.
Never the less it would be a Safe Queen and a display piece most likely.
If I ever had that kind of money to shell out I would definitely for a rare and pristine piece.
Id buy a super nice hunting rifle :iamafag:
It sold for $4,050.00
That has to be the most money I ever seen shelled out on a Mosin Nagant variant.
I want to punch the fucking seller so hard, look at what the stupid cunt did to the cleaning rod by making it carry the rifle's weight in that hook. If they're lucky it might still come out and be replaceable, but with how badly bent it is, I doubt it.
What a fucking idiot.
Didn't notice that before. Oh shit thats really crappy.
Can't wait for cheap Russian stuff :realsmug:
Seriously its gonna be AMAZING!!!!
By the way, since the Kriss came up earlier: I have spoken to someone who fired the FA (proper) version. The trigger is quite possibly the worst, the gun feels flimsy, and according to him - and he is a gigantic guy (not in the hambeast sense, either) - the recoil was little or no improvement over the FA UMP he also fired. So yeah... I think I'll keep my conventional rifles without weird counterweight systems that apparently don't really even do much.
Even if it does, fuck, it's .45ACP and it's coming out of a tiny submachine gun. It's hardly that much of an issue.
But what about the BARS in the AEK-971 and AK-107?
That guy is full of shit, because I've fired a .45 UMP and KRISS (both the Canadian-legal semi-auto only versions of course) and there's a huge difference in muzzle climb. The difference isn't in reducing felt recoil, it's about reducing muzzle climb.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Also, the KRISS I used felt more sturdy than the UMP lol.
Well the UMP is a giant pile of shit, so that's hardly surprising
Had a dream last night where Ross, Penguin, Freelancer and myself went shooting together.
P. weird right?
Weird yes, but I am forever alone shooting in my yard by myself.
Bought myself for shits and giggles a repro USSR flag. Can't wait to pile up old Soviet weapons by the flag, once the old milsurp weapons become cheap again.
If I was shooting anything old/Russian it was an incorrect dream!!Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
Actually the AN-94 is pretty neat.
No, you were yelling at me for stealing an AR-15 into you cold, gun hating country lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
I mean....I'm down. We just have to smuggle Ross from upside down country.
Do we go to Canada or to the States?
Or for an even better idea, fly the flag very prominently outside your home and troll every idiot conservative who passes until the end of time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan094
I dunno what's up with you, but Russian weapons are actually the correct kind. Pretty much everything they have ever made is either markedly superior to its Western counterpart (or is so goddamn innovative it doesn't even have a Western counterpart - AN-94 and until the .300BLK, VSS/VAL/VSK-94). ARs and G36s and SCARs and whatever are nice guns... for a clown. To take the the circus range. Idiot. :realsmug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
I plan on moving back to Canada ASAP but in my terms that is probably like 3-5 years if not longer. I am poor and disorganised. If someone is willing to pay my flights there and back and put me up on their sofa though, I'll drop everything!Quote:
Originally Posted by PenGuin1362
e/ vz.54s are fucking awesome and you should want one
http://i.imgur.com/3QEFh.jpg
Oh, the things I would do... :allears:
Thing about Russian guns is the price is right. Thing about American guns is the great quality (not necessarily talking military here). The old Winchester Model 70s give me the biggest boner ever.
Dad has a Model 70 in 7mm Rem Mag and good lord that rifle rules.
My Pops has a pre-64 (if you dont know what that means look it up) in .300 Win Mag. They only ran them in that caliber for one year before the model switch over. The thing is the most solidly built, accurate rifle I have ever shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Dad's is from the 70s, but the action is absolutely glorious. The bolt is the smoothest piece of moving metal I have ever come across in my life, the trigger is great, and the rifle itself handles beautifully. It's so much fun to shoot, but he only reloads so much of his precious ammo at a time so I can't blast all day :smith:
You should try some of those $7,000+ (USD) Weatherby bolts. Moving those bolts is orgasmic for the hands.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Yeah, thats a push feed though. Controlled feed>push feed in every way. Pre 64 .300 is probably worth about 3000 USD, and even then the buyer is probably going to scrap everything but the action for a custom rifle. Hunting rifles are a totally different biz than military guns.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Well duh, when you're hunting you want to have the most accurate single-shot possible. The only thing in the military world that compares are the custom-modified sniper rifles used by special forces and the like.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
It has to be fast too, which most of those are not lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
What has to be fast? Loading? Bullet velocity? Aiming?
What?!
Lol aiming of course. But then again maybe not in Alberta. Here in Oregon its all jump shooting (on the coastal side).Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
Where we hunt is pretty heavily forested and getting a kill really comes down to you detecting the animal before it detects you. Once a deer/elk/moose runs through this forest you're pretty much done with that animal. Not a lot of prairie unless you go East/South-East.
Even our East side is pretty vertical. Thats the thing is, we only have a small patch of land thats flat and its mostly owned by selfish people.
Well, immediately West of here is foothills. As a matter of fact, they actually start on the edge of the city and go for about an hour. An hour past that and you're in the Rocky Mountains.
And East is not where we hunt, we find that hunting in farmers fields is boring an unproductive.
Mountainous landscaped untouched by anyone except the occasional hunter and oil crew are the best to hunt in IMO.
AgreedQuote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
Wrote a thing about WWII scopes.
Interesting read.
PICTERS
In the sun
In the shade (hello bayonet let's be friends)
Counterbores are for scrubs
http://i.imgur.com/SIor9.jpg
:-3
Probably going shooting this coming week, planning to run at least a hundred rounds through my Mosin.
I hope you buy more ammo, because what you pictured there isn't really close to 100 rounds. Sorry to break it to you!!
My Thompson/Center Venture came back yesterday from being fixed after the recall of all models prior to October 2011. Except no one at home here (three people) heard the delivery guy, so I assuming he just didn't knock and decided that it would just be cool if he left a note on the door telling us that they would try delivery again AFTER THE WEEKEND.
Hey buddy, I know you want to get off work early cause it's Friday and everything but you're a fucking douchebag. My father went out camping/off-roading this weekend, I even said to him that if the gun was back by then I'd go with him to try it out and just have fun shooting. Way to ruin my weekend Loomis Express (DHL)!!
Oh well, I will probably go this week sometime with a friend if/when I can get him to come out. Last time he gave himself this by being a n00b shooter:
http://img688.imageshack.us/img688/5015/scopebite.jpg
Yes... That is scope-bite from my T/C Venture .30-06 lol. It was actually pretty bad, he needed stitches for it and has a scar now. He was a manly-man about it though and just smothered it in fresh snow to help quicken the healing and deaden the pain. Then we went shotgunning (of which I have a video on YouTubes).
I'm sorry, but n00b shooting 101: Don't get close to the scope with your eye because it'll often bite.
I've been hit in the eye by a scope before
popped a really bad ingrown hair once
Had pus all over my gun
Probably the funniest fucking thing to ever happen to me whilst shooting.
I was about eight when I fired my first shotgun. My dad handed me this bulky 8-gauge monster of a thing and set up a foam cup in front of a series of railroad ties (I don't remember where the hell we got them). For some idiotic reason, the safety was off.
He tells me to shoot it. I pull the gun up a little bit above my shoulder, because it was biting into my arm. My short, scrawny left hand barely holds the thing up.
I lean my head right and to the back to see if I can sight the cup. I pull the trigger, the gun goes off, kicks back, hits me square in the chin, and almost knocks me on my ass.
That must've been the intention, because him and the rest of the small crowd of relatives gathered around started cracking up. I had a bad bloody lip, but I was a boss about it. Of course, I was half deaf for another five minutes, so I didn't have to endure any mocking that usually goes around in my backward, redneck family.
I wasn't really about to open the other 180 rounds just for a photo, then have to clean it all up. I bought 200 and shot five (dad shot one too) last time, since we had to run outside during a break in the torrential downpour.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
Yeah this is like the absolute worst thing to do with a new shooter (or introducing an experienced one to a new type of firearm) because it is fucking dangerous and either scares them off outright or causes bad habits (flinching). First shotgun I fired was a .410, which was mild as hell, then a 12ga with target loads. I had an awesome time.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon
With all of that said, people have a tendency to really overstate recoil. I don't know if it's because we've all been pussified (probably not since old dudes do it too) or what, but from what I had heard about it, I was kind of apprehensive the first time I shot my dad's Winchester (7mm Rem Mag). I shot some light stuff first (160gr) and then moved onto his usual moosefucker load (175gr moving at ALL of the feet per second) next. It was pretty solid, but it didn't hurt and I had no trouble shooting it until he decided I was going to go through all his super-expensive ammo if he didn't stop me. Same with my Mosin; "ohhh it hurts, couldn't possibly spend all day shooting with it". Yeah, speak for yourself, I could. It really doesn't recoil much harder than my No.4, and both of those are more of a firm push than a kick.
I'm really lightly built too so I don't see what all the fucking crying is about. The only reason to use a buttpad on WWII milsurp is a) if it's an anti-tank rifle or b) if you need added LOP (like Hickok with his 91/30). Shit, even my little sister handles the recoil fine, and she's like... 13. She started on .22, then up to .22-250, then under very careful supervision she took a shot with my Enfield. Then another, and another, and emptied a whole mag and wants to shoot the Mosin next time we go out blasting things. Maybe she's an okay kid after all :-3
First gun I ever shot was a .308 and it was at my first deer ever. I got that deer too, perfect shot. So perfect we couldn't actually find the entrance/exit wounds or blood on the carcass anywhere. To this day we're of the opinion that I gave it a heart-attack and it just fell over. Never had any practice with a firearm before that except with my little Crossman CO2 Pellet gun. They told me what to expect with the .308 and how to hold it right and I was actually fine, I've never been bitten by a scope.
I would have that one time I was shooting that Tavor on the range, I was just having so much fun pumping 10-round mags down-range (the most you can semi-legally put in a magazine in Canada for semi-auto's) that I wasn't paying attention to my grip or stance at one point. Inadvertently bump fired it 3 times and it climbed as sure as I had fired it on full-auto. Some douchebag self-appointed range officer* actually asked me to make sure it was legal.
*You know the guys I'm talking about, those faggots who show up to public ranges and take on the responsibilities of yelling at anyone who even touches their rifle when someone is downrange. Even though your rifle is actually slung, bolt open, magazine out, and you're just checking the action to make sure it is ACTUALLY clear.
As a man of heavy build, you all need to lift some weights and take some pro hormone
Weighing less than 170 is unacceptable :-3
I have said it before, I have never had a problem with recoil
I weight like 195 and I have a completely athletic build. Well, except maybe my legs right now since I haven't been exercising them NEARLY enough in the past 6 months.
When you're not expecting automatic fire it can come as a surprise. I still never got hit by the scope, since it was a red dot and mounted far forward. :downs:
Going to my grandparents for spring break, gonna go get my first Mosin Nagant that's just been sitting with them in the safe being a queen, and hopefully get some other weapons and bring it back up north, if not I can wait.
Oh a side note does anybody ever give names to their guns?
Oye nowQuote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
Awake already waiting for the gun re-delivery.
Derp.
At 2?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
:nigel:
yeah i couldn't sleep.
Not specifically gun-related but fuck you. Just found a proper WWII ushanka after about a week of periodically wading through the sea of current-issue and commercial versions on eBay, was priced decently and is the exact same size as my slouch hat so I know it'll fit. Comes with a postwar subdued pin, but I have the correct one anyway (came with my PU) so I'm laughing. Telogreika comes next, soon as I a) get paid and b) figure out what size I need.
Probably going to end up getting a full 1943/44 uniform, not for reenacting (which tends towards a whole other level of autism and pretentiousness, as much fun as it sounds like in theory) so much as just having it and being able to wear it out shooting when it's cold :allears:
Go shopping in it.
Find an authentic Russian marksman medal that accompanied the 91/30 snipers. It's like $300 for a tiny little pin
Nice to see my question goes un-answered, I guess it's just me then that does it.
Also took a semi-nice picture of my antique 10G DB, dont mind the pesky weeds. I'll get a better shot tomorrow.
E: Curious me, figuring out how to remove rust off the DB, any ideas?
I can't really think up names for my guns, which is odd since I used to name the family cars. Shit I dunno, I probably could, I just don't really see much cause to. I already baby them enough as it is without having given them names, and there's like a whole other level of "causing people to look at you apprehensively" between letting slip that you've named your car something random and letting slip you've named your Mosin after a cute WWII Soviet sniper. :tinfoil:
Maybe when I own multiples of any one sort of gun I'll have reason to, but even then, it's not really a thing I've put much thought into.
As for rust removal, 0000 steel wool (MAKE SURE it is 0000) and gun oil. GENTLY.
I have a name for mine:
00471
OK so FPSRussia ruined his by blinging it out, but this is probably my favorite M14 chassis now:
It looks awkward and probably has the worst trigger pull on the face of the Earth, fuck that noise
looks kind of sick, I'd totally get one if I already had a standard M1A
Hey Peng you said ages back that your bolt body was new production; don't suppose you could tell me where you got it? I tried Jim the Bolt Man but he says he's out of the new ones and can't afford to use them anymore, and I really don't want to sent mine overseas, so...
I've tried finding the guy again but I can't for the life of me remember what the site was called or if even makes them anymore, the website was a weird name too. He makes new scope covers, bent bolts, and sells reproduction pu scopes and few K98 parts as well.
I didn't do much digging but I found this with a quick search. Claims to be original bent bolt, do some searching and see what you find
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Mos...#ht_589wt_1163
"Not available to Australia" :maddowns:
Don't feel bad, it's also "Not available to Canada".
Blame bad sellers.
Fucking hell EVERY SINGLE ONE, even where it's just the bolt body which would clear customs no hassle, are US only. The bolt body is the only fucking thing holding me back from restoring my rifle, this is fucking retarded.
Mill your own lolQuote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/p...ducts_id/48342
Totally getting one of these for the price lol
Would rather buy one HK45 than 10 of those cause they break every time you fire a round.
lmao
Ahahahaha
In other words, I would get a bent bolt for the MN just for the fun of it but who do get it from that is like spot on? And the fact I want just the numbers punched in would be cool but idk who does that, since I dont want to use my original bolt.
They are hilarious and I bet I could get them to work!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortexian
Be careful of that website. I've heard multiple reports of credit card fraud from people after that purchased stuff from there. Not sure if it's them, poor security, or maybe just a coincidence but just a heads up.
Hmm interesting. Well okay, thanks for the heads up Pengy!Quote:
Originally Posted by PenGuin1362
Finally brought back my first MN I ever had, along with a pre-64 Winchester Model 1894. The Model 94 was made in 1958 and is in Win. 32 Special....funny thing is I transported them via Airplane so I had fun waiting in line to drop it off, and best of all they didnt charge me a cent to load the two into the cargo....and when I was waiting for it in the pickup area the case slid out with the words in plane sight UNLOADED FIREARM(S), some kids were like dooood.
But yeah I'll take more pics tomorrow in the morning and try find some cheap .32 special, oh the fun in that, for a range test.
Beautiful 94. One of my favorite designs ever. I love the lever action.
Click for full size goodness.
Pre-64 Winchester Model 1894 in 32 WIN. SPL.
I'll probably leave the wood alone as it stands, it has character. Now there is some light rust along the mag tube and top cover but some 0000 steel wool will do the trick.
God, that is one gorgeous piece of steel. My Uncle Bob has one from the 30's and its amazing. I hope I inherit it :-3
I love lever actions and that right there is the epitome of why
Apparently the price of M38's is really starting to go up. However this one up for auction is currently sitting low http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/Vie...Item=280799268 If only I was in the position to snag it right now :(
You remind me it still stings I missed a 1940 Tula M38...
I would snag that M38 but after fee's and shipping it would cost me more then to cherry pick through the rack of M38's at a local gun store near me.
Oh yeah counter-bored MN's don't fit well with me, considering I just decided to peer into my first MN's rifling and grooves it is shiny as heck and I can see the rifling alittle bit at the end of the barrel....and that the rack of M38's I can avoid a CB rifle.
counter-bored rifles are nice, they can in fact be more accurate than the standard bore and are just as shiny, sometimes. It depends. The down side to counter bored is that the original crown and bore were shit so they had to counter-bore to fix it.
Yeah it's just I never delt with one, don't like CB rifles for some reason.
And I'm pissed, the original front sight for my 94 the very top part of it fell off somehow, now it's kinda weird and can't do shit with it...and it's partly rusted so I'll need to get a new front sight.
you're just jealous~~Quote:
Originally Posted by PenGuin1362
of what? lol One mosin I own is CB the other isn't, I get the best of both worlds :D Also what I like about Counter bored rifles is there's a pretty good chance they saw some action during the war which adds to the history of the rifle. It depends on what you want.
If your Mosin is dated 1944 or earlier, the chance of its being used in the war rapidly approaches '1', doubly so if it's a sniper rifle.
Really all a CB means is that the soldier it was issued to neglected to realise that the cleaning rod won't reach the last 2-3" of rifling and it rusted to shit and back during storage. There was a trial done where a match-grade M1 was cleaned aggressively from the muzzle with a steel rod, it took so long to wear it to even the next increment of bore grade (which was still very good) that it mostly throws that theory out the window. The fact that the CB is always at or near the depth between the cleaning rod's muzzle guide and the end of the jag, on the other hand, says a lot. A rifle that was shot a handful of times on a range and never used again could be CB, a rifle that served throughout the war might not be.
Whoever had my rifle cared for it a lot. The rifling is incredible right to the crown, like a new rifle. I wonder where it's been, and what happened to the sniper that used it... if only they'd kept some kind of records. I know some Soviet snipers remembered their rifles' serial numbers, but there were no official records of who got what rifle, let alone where they went and what they did.
You and me both, it's like my rifle saw barely any action, all but one part is Izhevsk and the Izhevsk parts exhibit war-time machining. It's been through 2 refurbishments, the only thing the workers did was paint any white metal black (which came off easily on mine), restamped the numbers (despite the bolt looking original to the rifle), sanded off any stock markings, and did a sloppy shellac job.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
I kinda wanna change the rear barrel band from Tula to Izhevsk to then have no Tula parts but then again I kinda dont wanna.
Similar story with the refurb here. Lick of paint here, lick of paint there, new stock and bolt body, weld up the mounting screws, and slap some shellac on it.
All this talk about MN's and what Penguin brought up way earlier is I want a M38 now, though I'm going to search the racks for that one M38 that stands out since I missed the '40 Tula one.
I'll ask if they got a empty crate I could take home, make it into table with a glass window at the top like what this guy did from the AR15 forums in some fashion.
DO FUCKING WANT
Yes that is the sickest coffee table.
Some more stuff. Glad I joined Gunboards, both because of the info there and the guns that those guys get. On the same day there's a thread showing some of the most alarming fakes I've seen yet, and also a thread by a guy who picked up a super-rare 1942 Izhevsk PU (with the early SVT-type scope tube and SVT turrets).
In hunting news: got myself a rabbit last night, neighbours got one and also their first fox - sounded like WWIII, they must've put eight shots into the thing. They saw it after they dropped us off and headed for home, was just out the front. Saw lots of roos but let them go, legality of shooting roos without a permit of some sort is about as clear as solid granite and we didn't want to risk it.
Cant you just get a hunting license or something?
How was the rabbit? Tasty?
Dunno, we don't eat them because there's a 50/50 chance they have mixymatosis or something similar around here, released by the government to try control them. The only reason we hunt them at all is to try and keep foxes off our land or give us a known spot the foxes will gravitate to so we can shoot them instead. 'Sides, .22-250 SPBT at ten feet basically guts it for you, it was a complete mess.
Tangentially related to this thread, enjoy some glorious colour footage of the Eastern Front, mostly Berlin and Stalingrad. You will see dead bodies and dudes getting shot so don't watch it if that kind of thing gives you nightmares I guess
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ti0ch...eature=related
Wait, your government poisons your only source of game? what in the fark?
There is plenty of other shit here, but rabbits are an absolute plague. Mixymatosis was introduced ages ago to try cull them off but they've become resistant, so they hit them with other stuff too.
There are deer in the state forest just down the road from my parents' place. Dad and I are probably going to get hunting permits (necessary for shooting in state forest) and see what we can find.
Don't forget the land of most fucked up looking bugs on the planet. Hunt those fuckers instead.
Madagascar?Quote:
Originally Posted by PenGuin1362
