Tell jcap to post his desk, and post yours too! [JCAP POST YOUR DESK]

An intake fan under your HDD cage would be a great mod to that case, the cable management is a great improvement and should free up some airflow.

If you want to fix a couple more things, do the following:

1. All the cables painted red, you should feed towards the motherboard and under your expansion slot cards (green arrow).
2. Feed your PCI-E graphics card power cable (painted purple) behind the motherboard tray and then out of it and straight to the card (light blue line).
3. Untangle your 6/8pin motherboard power cable (orange) and feed it straight across to the connector (blue arrow).

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1. All the cables painted red, you should feed towards the motherboard and under your expansion slot cards (green arrow).
2. Feed your PCI-E graphics card power cable (painted purple) behind the motherboard tray and then out of it and straight to the card (light blue line).
3. Untangle your 6/8pin motherboard power cable (orange) and feed it straight across to the connector (blue arrow).

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1.) I think I can do that; you mean they'll run over top of the motherboard just behind the end of the PCI slots?

2.) I can't really feed anything behind the motherboard tray. The gap between the tray and the case wall is around 2mm and the tray runs right up to the drive bays; no way to feed it around there. That and the wires in this PSU are really stiff; some of the reason why my wiring is that way is because I don't want to/can't bend them very far.

3.) The 4-pin motherboard cable? Only reason it goes around that far is because it is really long... I might be able to route it around the rest of the wiring so it doesn't run directly underneath the PSU's fan. Good idea.

Also, my only gripe about my "modular" power supply is that the 4-pin and 8-pin motherboard power cables are not modular. I can't imagine there are a lot of motherboards that require both a 4-pin and an 8-pin at the same time so there's always one extra motherboard power cable attached. Currently all my extra cable length is sitting in the second (empty) optical drive bay.

Anyways, here's a picture of the front of the case; you can see the hard drive cage.

I'm not a huge fan (no pun intended) of the Aspire logo on the front, but could I have a suggestion or two?

1.) Where exactly should make the hole (to make it look like it was meant to be there) given the design of the case?

2.) What size of fan is best?

3.) What tools should I use that are precise enough for this? My mechanical experience relies more on wrenches and screwdrivers than cutting holes in plastic; my power tools at the moment are a jigsaw (unlikely methinks) and a portable drill driver, 3/8" chuck.

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Also, my only gripe about my "modular" power supply is that the 4-pin and 8-pin motherboard power cables are not modular. I can't imagine there are a lot of motherboards that require both a 4-pin and an 8-pin at the same time so there's always one extra motherboard power cable attached. Currently all my extra cable length is sitting in the second (empty) optical drive bay.

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There is no mobo that would take both, a 4 pin is just sitting there from my modular psu as well.

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1.) I think I can do that; you mean they'll run over top of the motherboard just behind the end of the PCI slots?

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Yes, do that! :)

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2.) I can't really feed anything behind the motherboard tray. The gap between the tray and the case wall is around 2mm and the tray runs right up to the drive bays; no way to feed it around there. That and the wires in this PSU are really stiff; some of the reason why my wiring is that way is because I don't want to/can't bend them very far.

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Sorry, I meant route it down and behind your optical drive/HDD cage and then out along the HDD cage bottom.

It looks like you're pressed for space under the HDD cage so you might be forced to go with an 80mm fan. I prefer 120mm fans since they can move more air at a lower sound level, so if you could cut a gap into your HDD cage near the front of the case to allow a 120mm fan to fit, go for that route.

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Sorry, I meant route it down and behind your optical drive/HDD cage and then out along the HDD cage bottom.

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By behind the drive bay/HDD cage you mean on the same side the motherboard's mounted on, or the side facing the camera?

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It looks like you're pressed for space under the HDD cage so you might be forced to go with an 80mm fan. I prefer 120mm fans since they can move more air at a lower sound level, so if you could cut a gap into your HDD cage near the front of the case to allow a 120mm fan to fit, go for that route.

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I don't have a problem with cutting the metal cage under the bay; I'm more concerned with what to do about the plastic front of the case, right in front of where I can put the fan; should I cut a fan-sized opening in it or maybe just try for a bunch of smaller holes that I can put a nice mesh in?

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There is no mobo that would take both, a 4 pin is just sitting there from my modular psu as well.

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Ah, you have the same PSU, don't you? I don't know a lot about PSUs, but Newegg had a deal on this one and so I thought I could save without buying a cheap PSU.


EDIT: I just measured the distance between the bottom of the hard drive cage and the bottom of the case; about 9 1/2cm. How are 92mm fans in general? I measured the case fan at the back of the computer and it's 92mm. Doesn't move a lot of air but I can't hear it either.

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By behind the drive bay/HDD cage you mean on the same side the motherboard's mounted on, or the side facing the camera?

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The motherboard side, in the picture I can see some cables behind the HDD cage, so route the PCI-E cable back there and then out the bay (towards the camera) and across to the card.

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I don't have a problem with cutting the metal cage under the bay; I'm more concerned with what to do about the plastic front of the case, right in front of where I can put the fan; should I cut a fan-sized opening in it or maybe just try for a bunch of smaller holes that I can put a nice mesh in?

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You could always use a small drill bit and just throw in a bunch of holes in a mesh pattern, if you want airflow I'd look at buying some fine wire mesh from somewhere and making a larger hole.

Ex: Cut square hole, use mesh to cover said hole so it doesn't just look like a hole... It's really up to you on you you want this to look.

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EDIT: I just measured the distance between the bottom of the hard drive cage and the bottom of the case; about 9 1/2cm. How are 92mm fans in general? I measured the case fan at the back of the computer and it's 92mm. Doesn't move a lot of air but I can't hear it either.

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Depends on the quality of the fan, get something nice like a Delta and you shouldn't have a problem.

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Ah, you have the same PSU, don't you? I don't know a lot about PSUs, but Newegg had a deal on this one and so I thought I could save without buying a cheap PSU.

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Ah yes didn't pick up on that before the stickers look a little different, and OZC are supposed to be a good psu brand. Also I've posted this before but it seems easier to throw cables around with a bottom mounted psu. 8/4pin at the top of mobo being an exception.

http://img8.imageshack.us/ifs/6384/img28/1/pic1jz.jpg

had the old computer open to clean it, change fan controllers and remove the bottom fan because it started to scrape the filter :ugh:

http://innergoat.modacity.net/comput...er-2010-04.jpg

is that lian li

No it's a Cooler Master CM690.

@ InnerGoat: Old computer? Isn't that your current computer???

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is that lian li

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Uh yeah it's my current computer but that doesn't change the fact that it's an old power hungry beast.

Also you can get WiNDy cases outside of Japan now if anyone is interested in The Best cases money can buy http://windy-online.com/case/

http://innergoat.modacity.net/computer/zr2000.jpg

That looks...expensive. What's that wall of metal for in front of the expansion card area?

damn some of those cases are sexy, wish i could navigate the site to learn more.

Google translate does nothing.

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That looks...expensive. What's that wall of metal for in front of the expansion card area?

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Most probably a fan exhaust to the rear of the case.

Also, I'd never buy one, top mounted PSU cases are the fail.

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Most probably a fan exhaust to the rear of the case.

Also, I'd never buy one, top mounted PSU cases are the fail.

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I would probably challenge that if I didn't agree. MY HAF 922 makes my X-Navigator look like a sloppy geek.

I agree with Freelancer. I have a top mounted PSU. God I wish it wasn't there.

id like to hear why exactly you think they are "the fail"

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id like to hear why exactly you think they are "the fail"

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Obvious reasons for him, not so much to others. Freelancer is big on cable management and now I think it's safe to safe a lot of other members are as well. With a bottom mounted PSU, the cables don't have to go as far to reach some components in the case. A prime example would be the power connectors for graphics cards and hard drives. Any cables needed to go to the top of the motherboard and optical drives can be more easily hidden under the motherboard tray and come out in the top right of the motherboard tray, right where the optical drive is. Overall, it's easier to get better airflow in your chassis if cables aren't blocking the airflow.

The hotter components are more spread out with bottom mounted PSUs as well, but for most people it wouldn't matter that much either way...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Is7X9NEwo
Not really pics of my PC, but still.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Is7X9NEwo
Not really pics of my PC, but still.

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Looks spectacular.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Is7X9NEwo
Not really pics of my PC, but still.

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That's what I plan on doing once I get the money for it. Would look much better with lights turned off though :]

What projector are you using by the way? I was planning on getting a $700 Optoma one that looks decent, but I'm curious.

I have a Epson and I plan to buy a Samsung. This one might just go in the bedroom and the samsung in the living room. Whats surprising though, is that I can even keep the windows blinds open during the day and it doesnt interrupt the visual HD effect. *the Epson costs about 800$ something*

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id like to hear why exactly you think they are "the fail"

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Cable management, as stated and overall case temperature is lower with a bottom mounted PSU usually. Most bottom mounted PSU cases have heat exhaust fans on the top of the case and that's where your heat goes.

Meh. I just wish my case was more heat efficient. Ever since I got the rest of the pieces of my case, the computer sounds like a jet engine when the fan speed goes up. Anyone know why?

My case does because there was literally no ventilation. Once I stuck 3 12cm CM fans on it where I could (2 of them in 8cm fan holes, used thumb screws in the holes that held the side bezel to get them there) and it now runs a helluva lot quieter. Although I ordered a CM Sileo 500 case today - comes with inbuilt acoustic foam :3.

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Most bottom mounted PSU cases have heat exhaust fans on the top of the case and that's where your heat goes.

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every PSU ive ever seen has 2 fans, one on the bottom to suck in the hot air, and one to blow it out.... seems like it would be the same. (unless you had multiple fans on top)

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x_Is7X9NEwo
Not really pics of my PC, but still.

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http://bacon.modacity.net/img/images/1230091418.jpg

:)

Contrast ratio fail?

(although it would be fun to play games on your wall)

it was pretty bright in the room, plus it was taken with a shitty camera phone.

also its on a brown wall without a proper screen, when its dark in the room it looks awesome tho.

WIsh I could afford a high-res projector. Even if I could, I would blow it on a 27" monitor instead, or maybe three 24" displays (more likely due to EyeFinity :D).

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Nvidia Surround. :realsmug:

Got my new desktop PC:

Specs:

Price: $335.72 US (after taxes and such)
Manufacturer: Compaq-Presario
Processor: AMD Sempron(tm) Processor LE-1300, ~2.3GHz
Memory: 2048MB RAM
Hard Drive: 320 GB
Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE nForce 430
Monitor: NEC AccuSync LCD72vx
Sound Card: Headphones (Realtek High Definition Audio)
Speakers/Headphones: Turtle Beach Ear Force X1
Keyboard: Compaq (came with the PC)
Mouse: Compaq (also came with PC)
OS: Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit (6.1, Build 7600) (7600.win7_rtm.090713-1255)

I'd say for the price it was a good deal. I really needed a PC and couldn't wait and build one (I also don't know crap about how to). This is my first new desktop i've had, my other one was from 2004 or something, and I was gaming on an old 04 laptop. I also haven't messed with the cables or anything, but am defiantly going to put more fans in it. It's really quiet too, which is pretty awesome.

you paid 33 dollars for it?

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you paid 33 dollars for it?

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heh, guess I didn't press the 5 button after all.

Rectify that error.

(Integrated graphics are horrible)

wow, you plan on overclocking that thing!?

AMD SEMPRON? Am I reading this correctly? I hope I'm not for that price with the other stuff.

Turtle Beach headphones, eh?

That fucker must be pretty old. (Assuming it came with the PC, of course...)

Must... Fill... Unused... Space!

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Video Card: NVIDIA GeForce 6150SE

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My laptop had a GeForce Go 6150 in it. I don't think I could ever play a game on it again now I've seen the dedicated GPU world. You planning on getting something dedicated for that thing? Actually, I can't see too well in the picture; is there an AGP or PCIe slot on that motherboard?

I really hate seeing a motherboard that has space set aside for four RAM slots but only two were installed. Mine is like this as well. Is it really that expensive for the manufacturer to put all four slots on? Or... is it more like some of the motherboards they make have defective RAM slots so they don't make them usable?

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Turtle Beach headphones, eh?

That fucker must be pretty old. (Assuming it came with the PC, of course...)

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No, just got the headphones a few weeks ago for xbox 360 gaming (I game on a monitor).

@varmint: It actually only has 2 ram slots, and one of them has a stick in it. Plus the graphics are integrated so in order to upgrade i'd also need a new motherboard.

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No, just got the headphones a few weeks ago for xbox 360 gaming (I game on a monitor).

@varmint: It actually only has 2 ram slots, and one of them has a stick in it. Plus the graphics are integrated so in order to upgrade i'd also need a new motherboard.

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I'm assuming the longer black slot is your PCI-E so you'd just need to put a card there. How would integrated graphics stop you from getting a dedicated card anyway lol?

It wouldn't stop him. His integrated gpu might even support Hybrid SLI. Which would give him a slight boost.

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I'm assuming the longer black slot is your PCI-E so you'd just need to put a card there. How would integrated graphics stop you from getting a dedicated card anyway lol?

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It wouldn't stop him. His integrated gpu might even support Hybrid SLI. Which would give him a slight boost.

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wat? I can get a better gfx card?

Yeah I would think your motherboard has a PCI-E slot in there. It looks like the longer black slot is your PCI-E 2.0 x16 and the other is the standard PCI-E. The computer is a Compaq, but they still use parts that are open to the market, which almost always have a video card expansion slot.

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@varmint: It actually only has 2 ram slots, and one of them has a stick in it

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Yes, I can see that. What I'm referring to is that the motherboard appears to be designed for four RAM slots but only two were installed on it... it bothers me is all. My motherboard has that same pattern, with two RAM slots and then two spaces next to them that look like they should be RAM slots as well.

As for the PCIe slot, I just couldn't see it very well.

Wow, upon further inspection of the picture, that motherboard is barebones to the extreme. It does have a PCI-E x16 slot there, though. How could it not be? There's a PCI-E x1 slto next to it.

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Wow, upon further inspection of the picture, that motherboard is barebones to the extreme. It does have a PCI-E x16 slot there, though. How could it not be? There's a PCI-E x1 slto next to it.

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So this means I can get another gfx card for it?

Yes.

Any PCI-E x16 graphics card.

I just got a new monitor, not sure if its big enough....





Not really, my dad just got a 58" samsung plasma. 1.5" thick. pretty nifty.

I knew you were a furry.

tis actually my brother, nad yes hes a furry

http://bacon.modacity.net/img/images/lol2.jpg

eating breakfast with my waifu like a good husbandu

wow

what a lame waifu...

I lol'd

ur waifu sucks

my feelings are hurt

play i-spy
:D

Hey cool you're shopping for a new desk to replace that Piece of Shit you have now??? :D

I spy a useless brick of a console (read:PS Triple)

I'm actually getting a new desk soon that is big enough to hold three monitors
:D

Nice map

heh.

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Cable management, as stated and overall case temperature is lower with a bottom mounted PSU usually. Most bottom mounted PSU cases have heat exhaust fans on the top of the case and that's where your heat goes.

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Basically this.

My Case owns souly because of this.
i was having a fuckload of trouble trying to stop my comp from over heating before, now it's non existent.

A top mounted PSU can also aid temps as it acts like a shitty top fan. The lack of a top mounted fan isn't always a cause of overheating issues.

Decided to stick with the case they sent for my mum's PC. Too much effort trying to email the site to send us a new one before we send the one we're using back. They're sending out a free HDD dock though for free, which is a score for me.



There's about a 1cm gap above the top DVD drive which is where i've stuffed all the leftover cables. I know the 2nd DVD drive isn't plugged in, Intel was nice enough to send out 2 SATA cables for a mobo that can hold 6. I never understood why it was the motherboard supplier that was expected to supply cables for internal parts. HDDs and DVD drives, even OEM ones should still come with their own SATA cables.

I've added another set of cable ties to help secure the bottom drive some more. It moves side to side, but not in and out which would be the only worry.

God I love zip ties...

they are indeed the worlds greatest invention

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they are indeed the worlds greatest invention

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Until you need to remove them. Nothing a small utility knife or scissors can't handle, but it would be cool if you could re-use them.

It's like $5 for a bag of 100 around here so w/e.

lol i spent like 8 bucks on a fuckin canister of hundreds in varying sizes that i've had for YEARS.

Just got a second monitor.

Arrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh it looks like such a mess

Yeah, I need to clean up a little under my desk.

Why the two keyboards?

There's only one keyboard.

Should I even bother asking what the deal is with all the socks under your desk?

It looks like there's a beige keyboard on top of a black keyboard...

That's one keyboard. It's an old piece of junk I got for a quarter at a garage sale a few years ago.

Those socks are from a bag of socks I stuck under my desk when I got them for Christmas. Bag ripped, socks everywhere. Like I said, I need to clean under my desk.

not exactly a pc pic


http://bacon.modacity.net/img/images/temps.png


:)

Woot you crossed 1TB congrats :)

You know what... I'm not even going to ask. :-3

Uh... wow... lol.

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About time, but....



:/

Moved my room around this morning:

Mobile gaming rig
Specs:
Asus N51Vn
Intel Core2Duo P8700 @ 2.53
Nvidia GT240M (1GB)
4GB DDR2
Seagate 320GB 7200RPM

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/P1050247.jpg

HTPC
Specs:
Intel Core2Duo e6700 @ 2.66
Nvidia 2x8800 GTS 640mb (1280mb total)
2x2GB Corsair Dominator DDR2
EVGA 680i SLI
Corsair TX650
Antec Fusion Max

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/P1050096.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n.../P10500972.jpg

Primary Rig
Specs
Intel i7 920 @ 3.66
Nvidia GTX275
3x2GB OCZ Gold
Gigabyte EX58-UD5
Corsair HX1000
Antec 900
2x500GB Seagate (RAID 0)

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/P1050232.jpg

http://i302.photobucket.com/albums/n...r/P1050237.jpg

pretty sweet set up my friend!

He's got the same speakers as me!

The trusty 5.1 Logitechs? They are the only piece of hardware that lasted me 3 different boxes.

Yup, same speakers :D

http://derekdennison.codebrainshideout.net/IMG_2154.jpg
my set up is better than dee's

Camera phone. lo
Mr.big doesn't even have a desk. He has a poopy book shelf where he draws his hentai.

got a new second monitor for my comp

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-..._2683367_n.jpg

iphone pic

I'd move the PC to the other side so I could sit more centered to the screens *shrug*

^ That. I had to disassemble my desk and assemble it in mirror when I got my second monitor because where the tower sits.

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I'd move the PC to the other side so I could sit more centered to the screens *shrug*

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I just put my chair right in front of the "main monitor" and just turn and put my feet up ontop of my comp :)

Scored a new monitor:

Tower with cables of doom: