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Yeah the best thing to do is do what is smart and accomplishes your goals.

In my case my goals (for society) are to increase the average education levels, decrease the average crime levels, foster an interactive and less passive society, and allow for individual innovation to determine one's fate.

This path is most easily and stably reached using fiscal socialism and (according to statistics) judicial liberalism.

This is why democracy limited at voting simply doesn't work... you need to be active -- email your MP, Governor, or other representative with your demands... and state what you wish to accomplish.

Ron Paul ftw.

I disagree with what you say, moderator with a terribly annoying to type name. I believe that socialism has a dulling effect on society's intellect. Part of being an intelligent human being is being able to support yourself, without the assistance of a higher power (referring to government). With socialism, the government takes a more active role in regulating the way we live. When (for any reason) that government is taken away, we are all left staring at the sky like snakes in a cage, waiting for master to throw us a mouse.

This is all just my theory of course. I just believe that all people should be self sufficient. It shouldn't take a government or a god to make us behave. But then I guess that's just being pretentious.

I HATE people who are so one-sided and think that anything related to the opposite party is completely wrong.

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Originally Posted by ICEE

It shouldn't take a government or a god to make us behave. But then I guess that's just being pretentious.

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I find that ironic considering that the government has to declare the wars for its people, and the people have to declare the wars for their god. Not that I give a fuck about having wars... shit, it makes for great television and a whole lot of interesting stories.

I understand that governments have the obligation to protect its citizenry and people try to police their creed's moral boundaries, but just once I'd like someone to admit that they're completely full of shit and that their practical objective is really second banana to getting thier jollies out of the unfortunate consequences of war while they've got the opportunity and the comfort of being in a position that allows them to do so. Similarly to what I said just above. :eyesroll:

Everyone feels it, everyone knows it, everyone accepts it, but no one talks about it. Now that's what I call being pretentious.

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Originally Posted by Phopojijo

Yeah the best thing to do is do what is smart and accomplishes your goals.

In my case my goals (for society) are to increase the average education levels, decrease the average crime levels, foster an interactive and less passive society, and allow for individual innovation to determine one's fate.

This path is most easily and stably reached using fiscal socialism and (according to statistics) judicial liberalism.

This is why democracy limited at voting simply doesn't work... you need to be active -- email your MP, Governor, or other representative with your demands... and state what you wish to accomplish.

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If you make a political party, I'll join.

Nah Phop. I don't care. I want two things: Term limits on ALL gvt. employees and a simple, easy to understand, flat tax rate. If anything happens in gvt. that I want, those 2 items would be it.

I couldn't care less about anything else.

What i want out of government is pretty plain and simple, a governing body that serves the peoples best interests not insists the people serve the political bodies best interests.
Im not sure how many people have looked into british politics as of late but all thats been in the news for the past month or so is how politicians have been abusing a system called a expenses claim, where politicians claim "expenses" on things ranging from simple household items upto a full blown house mortage, their claiming tax payer money to pay for their second homes.
There are many people who have only just enough income to rent houses let alone have a £xxx,xxx mortage.
The current prime minister Gordon Brown yesterday admitted he is not very good with politics but said he would not step down untill he got pushed down basicly.
The house of commons speaker stepped down today from his position and from politics completely, the home secretary has announced she will step down soon, there are many politicians stepping down because they cannot handle the heat they have caused.

So as i said, what i want from government is for them to work for the peoples best interests, improving public services working on new workable legislations that will improve the lives of the populartion as a whole not just those in politics, afterall it is the population who pays their wages.

I don't understand why anyone feels they need to identify with a PARTY. Why can't people view their own needs and their own community's needs and vote from that point of view rather than conforming to every single policy a few politicians agree on?

I just feel government needs to get out of peoples lives. Let us live it the way we want to live our lives. This country was founded on the belief of small government and I believe it needs to stay that way. More problems arise the bigger government is.

Power is always abused and there is nothing we can do to stop that other than by limiting powers.