Criticism.

Criticism is criticsm. Wether it be harsh or it be nice, it's still going to get the point across that your model/whatever your showing needs to be improved and how to do that.

I don't blame people like Rossmum, SnaFuBAR, tweek, etc. when they try to give help and people just blow it back in there face. I wouldn't want to help that person out if there not willing to take some advice either.

This thread should be a wake-up call to people. Your never gonna get better at something if you don't know what your doing wrong in the first place. So, that's where we come in.

O.0 I wish this was posted along time ago when these forums was first put up. I think this thread should get a sticky.

yeah, and a link to this can get posted in any one of the threads made by people with bad models who are too stupid to post in the wip thread.

Because we need centralized flaming.

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Originally Posted by PenGuin1362

Start over is a valid response, as long as you tell em what to fix. If you want a great product, then sometimes restarting is the best thing to do. I mean hell, i can't tell you how many times i had to restart the receiver on the M14. And I've made at least 4 AK-47's (over a few years) cause my originals sucked.

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Good thread. Also, good point right here. I know I've had to restart parts and peices of my stuff too, just because it's plain wrong. If you need to restart, don't stress it, everyone makes mistakes and you'll just be getting more experiance. And as Snaf said, I also don't mind taking in somebodies model and showing them how to fix it. I like to see new people learning, and don't have a problem helping you get better.

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Originally Posted by Gamerkd16

Yea but when criticism becomes cruel and your basically insulting the person, that's when it has gone too far. Sadly I have seen much of that here too.

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This is how cruel is:
"That modeling is by far the worst I've ever seen! Never go back to modeling because you suck."

Now did you hear anyone say that?

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Originally Posted by Saggy

Criticism is criticsm. Wether it be harsh or it be nice, it's still going to get the point across that your model/whatever your showing needs to be improved and how to do that.

I don't blame people like Rossmum, SnaFuBAR, tweek, etc. when they try to give help and people just blow it back in there face. I wouldn't want to help that person out if there not willing to take some advice either.

This thread should be a wake-up call to people. Your never gonna get better at something if you don't know what your doing wrong in the first place. So, that's where we come in.

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Couldn't have said it better myself

I remember getting angry at Snaf for giving me criticism advice a long time ago... I'd type out this long post saying how it doesn't suck... then go back and read it... and delete it all and say thanks.

It's hard to accept harsh criticism but... if it's harsh it gets the point of just how bad it is.

Very good rules. I second the notion of sticky.

When does criticism become cruel? When the person being criticized either attacks the person giving out criticism or when they completely brush it off and continue with their little fantasy that they're perfect. If you don't want criticism then go to DeviantArt or something.

i support this thread.

though there should be a rule that if someone does not agree with the polynazis, we will come to their house and stab their mothers k.

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Originally Posted by Tweek

i support this thread.

though there should be a rule that if someone does not agree with the polynazis, we will come to their house and stab their mothers k.

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IAWTP.

Good thread. I hope it gets stickied, too.

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Originally Posted by Tweek

i support this thread.

though there should be a rule that if someone does not agree with the polynazis, we will come to their house and stab their mothers k.

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with a rusty machete, and possibly a penis.