Quid Pro Quo

derp I edited dis?

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Originally Posted by Oxygen

i would jsut like to know...wtf are the updates. paladin, you seem like a man of false promises. and i think this map needs ot be completely redone anyways. from your renders, it looks like the map is 50k polies or more. This is HCE, not H3. (plus your modeling is horrendous :) )

good luck with this junk...besides, Scooby is slow anyways. expect this thing to be done some time next year.

lol :) :) :)

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Wow really, you crawl out from under your rock of what ? 5 years when Im on vacation, bash me, and then run back. Dick. Looks liek you need to l2 estimate because its actually 65k polies and who says it wont go into H3? Dont get me start on Scooby, that fag. He cant fnish anything. The shitty cmt biped skin took the mother fucker a year to make and it looks like my toilet paper after I wipe my ass. The release date for the pack has already been set for 0000 09.01.10

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Originally Posted by Disaster

uhh
:frogout2:

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no

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Originally Posted by Fear1337

You think he sucks at modeling? Thats... thats.... sad. :(

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This oxygen guy blows me while I model, thats why I suck.

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Originally Posted by PopeAK49

Who are you sir? And why are you bumpin this topic? If it's a crappy model then why do you care so much in bumping the topic?

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Because Hes a fucking trole. He lives under a rock. He was a pretty decent modder back when ce first came out, but fuck, all hes good for now is head.

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Originally Posted by rentafence

I smell satire.

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:awesome:

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Originally Posted by Malloy

It looks like an anti sarcastic compliment :P

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orly

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Originally Posted by CLS{GRUNT}

http://www.modacity.net/forums/style...ns/redcard.gifSTOP DO NOT TROLEhttp://www.modacity.net/forums/style...ns/redcard.gif

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please no, or gtfo

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Originally Posted by paladin

Dont get me start on Scooby, that fag. He cant fnish anything. The shitty cmt biped skin took the mother fucker a year to make and it looks like my toilet paper after I wipe my ass. The release date for the pack has already been set for 0000 09.01.10

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D/W folkes, looks like another case of anti sarcastic compliment syndrome :P

That was completely srs business

:realsmug:

Just letting you guys know this isnt dead. In reality, its more alive then it ever was. QPQ is now in the hands of Scooby, and I have to say, if he does as good of a job on the rest of the map as hes done now, itll be one spectacular map. I mentioned it a while ago, that we are doing a few maps, I jsut wanted to show off a small portion of one of the others thats in developement. IM continuously updating it on my website, but this is the first time here.

Take a look:



Ill keep updates going on my site and Ill do one here as soon as Scooby thinks hes ready. ty :)

Good to know you're still working on it. :)

nice pics, cant wait to try it

EVERYONE TAKE NOTE: do NOT ever never map with this tard. he sucks. seriously. -rep him right now. everyone do it.

...sending me fucked up maps and such. wtf.

Your jsut too stupid. YOur the one who fucked up the map...... NOT MY PROBLEM

lolwut?

You know what.... FUCK YOU. Im gonna kill you mother fucker

I'm confused what the fuck is going on. If you guys are serious take it to PM's.

STAY OUT OF THIS

wtf. dude i have a folder on my desktop named 'shit' and i'm putting all your files in it. then ima put it on a flash drive and put it in the microwave!!! then ima flash it down the toilet with some M80's.

lock...please.

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Whats going on? I'm scared.

When can we expect a release date?

/sarcasm

when bluestreak starts working...

^ that.. sorry Ghosty :)

:mech2: O good it's not an actual fight. My sarcasm indicators are leaving me.....

lol no. we were both frustrated at each other, basically blaming each other for problems cause by different versions of max. but it was resolved quite peacefully, we just jokingly as friends blew the situation out of proportion.

BRENT IF YOU READ THIS BEFORE I TALK TO YOU TOMORROW:

I modeled tunnel system with only on tunnel and no tele. Ill send you pics when we get together. I think itll work out pretty good. See ya mate

p.s. raw-dawg

btw, peoples, we're planning on having another open beta this weekend. so if you'd like to participate, let us know :)

also, if anyone here who can hook us up with a server for the test - we will give you rights to our closed beta!!! it would be really nice if we could have the large test on a good server. PM me if you can help.


SCOTT, when you get your lazy ass outta bed you need to send me the pics. im working on this thing here at work.

p.s. Re: raw dawg

You can use my 12 man server if you'd like, just send me the map over or talk to me on aim or something.

Whos this tard testing on your guys map unfinished map?

http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?...7010&start=602

http://www.modacity.net/forums/showthread.php?t=17337

we had a lil open alpha to get some opinions about the second path...

next open beta will be tomarrow. we will announce it soon.

yo raw dawg you got aim or something at work



Thats the shaft and tunnel. I already have a working version in game.

How does the shaft work? Ladders?

most likely, unfortunately, because the need to be two-way. The whole point to the shaft and single tunnel was to eliminate the teleporters.

we're going to have another open beta today. can anyone hook us up with a spot on your server for CTF 12-16 players?

Paladin will be making a new thread with the d/l soon...

Anyone interested in helping me out a bit? Mainly making a few pieces of scenery. More specifically, trees.

Where are trees on this map? Lol.

Id be happy to supply you with any weapon/vehicle model you need. (Which I already have modelled).

New Images, ALL SCENERY ARE PLACEHOLDERS

Stock weapons or custom?, anyways it looks so fukin pro. lulz

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Originally Posted by hry

Stock weapons or custom?, anyways it looks so fukin pro. lulz

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I believe it was stated that it would be stock.

Stock weapon supremacy~

How did you do the water? I'm guessing the lower pool is real, and the water on the higher side of the damn is just a plane with the texture on it.

the lower has a fog plane and the upper is a water plane and two partially transparent planes of the same color as the fog.

I have also changed the layout quite a bit. When I get more done, Ill either release another test or make a video.

The floor cracks are too repetitive. Also, you have assault rifles on the lower, hard to get to places. Wouldn't there better be power weapons like rockets/snipers or something?

I've always noticed repetitive textures are hard to notice ingame. That doesnt appear to be a serious problem...

When your walking on the ground, you can see it. Also, Those are no where near finished.

A different texture should go here:

Most likely there will be. About 70% does not have an assigned material yet.

^Those covenant crates could use better shaders too.


/suggestion

If you are offering...


Also,

These are the type of trees I am looking for if anyone is interested...

Get that sky too! :-3

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Originally Posted by Freelancer

Get that sky too! :-3

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Fractures sky would work well...

And yes, I was offering the crates :downs:


EDIT:
I found this within the contents of my computer. Dont know where it came from.

The shape looks good but the leaves would have to change.

There's h2 trees on HM:
http://hce.halomaps.org/index.cfm?fid=4635
Looks sorta similar.

TY, but like Advancebo's, theyd have to be edited

Ill package the stuff later today, then send you the tags/tree. Then you can edit the leaves :-3

For Con

http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/1...145114full.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/2232/82005818full.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/7...677055full.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/2...384191full.jpg
http://img196.imageshack.us/img196/4...383483full.jpg
http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/3805/91379163full.jpg
http://img40.imageshack.us/img40/8278/89709463full.jpg
http://img527.imageshack.us/img527/1...150872full.jpg

LOL, also a new version is available to play on my website. Please download and let me know what you think.

http://www.dawnunderheaven.net/

This map looks incredible, downloading.

Really really really pleasant visuals.

Lol, its only 50% done. But thanks

I don't think the fall underwater kills you. I accidentally fell and got stuck, so I had to restart :\

Theres going to be a kill trigger volume.

Okay cool.

Played it, but didnt like the water ):

Also add a barrier or something here, on both sides.


Like the stairs in Foundry, see the sides?
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5...608fullxn6.jpg

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Originally Posted by Advancebo

Also add a barrier or something here, on both sides.
http://i218.photobucket.com/albums/c...edsbarrier.jpg
Like the stairs in Foundry, see the sides?
http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/5...608fullxn6.jpg

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I'd also argue it need some support struts.

I will, I havent got around to it yet. That top part is just a plane for now to show that there actually will be one.

Lol e: The stairs and all the walk ways like so will have supports and look real, at least I plan on it.

Had some time to work on it today. I kind like the dark atmosphere. What about you? I cant wait til I can get my hands on Cons sky.

Daaaaaammmmmmmnnnnnnn

If you decide to go with different lighting then I can adjust your version of the sky.

wow, what is it about that dusk/sunset that makes a map look even better?

nice work :D

I think it gives it a more ruined look.

If you're going to use that lighting shade, at least make the stone a different color. Looks... un-natural as is.

Looks fine to me vOv

Looking at it again, it's not the lighting that makes it look un-natural, it's the repetitiveness. Pretty much every last texture tiles rather obviously. I realize they're kind of supposed to, but it ought to be more subtle.

Thats because the entire map has one texture on it.

Wow. Are those ingame pics without any gfx tweaks? The map looks awesome with that warm yet dark look.
I'd like YoyoV2.1 to have that feel to it.

If the textures are going to be mixed up a bit before release, it'll look awesome :-3

Id say that about 80% of the map is not textured correctly. Really, they have just been separated out into material groups (ground, cliff, ect..), There will be a lot more variation on the structures. I haven't gotten around to texturing them yet since for the longest time the geometry kept changing.

NEW BETA LINK 10/27
CLICK HERE TO TEST 4.4

Very similar to most recent pics. I add rain to see how it looks. I must have missed a portal so it rains on some interiors. You can still fall beneath the water. Scenery, weapons, objective, player spawns are all subject to change.

I am still looking for some help. I know Cons make me a sky :realsmug: but I need a few other things made, like the generators inside the pump room.

downloading now. That's a pretty slow upload, but w/e I guess.

lmao I just downloaded 4.2 from your site and started ce. Damnit. ._.

http://img137.imageshack.us/img137/4937/error2k.png
http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/1042/error1j.png
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/3286/error3i.png

Look things!

1st: I keep forgetting to fix that. Thanks for the reminder
2nd: I suck at portals. Im going to need some help with that.
3rd: Noted. If you look around youll find even more.

Also, Im going to change the link on my sight now.

Someone needs to make a proper portalling tutorial.

I know rite?

Do it!!

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Originally Posted by Con

Someone needs to make a proper portalling tutorial.

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are there even any out there to begin with

Uh yeah The HEK tutorial got it.

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Originally Posted by .Wolf™

Uh yeah The HEK tutorial got it.

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Its not the best. It just shows you how to make them. It doesnt really tell how to port a more complex map.

HEK portals:

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Originally Posted by HEK Tutorial

he creation and placement of portals: The hallways for the 2 base structures (blue base and red base) will be made Exact portal volumes.
Later, when the level is running in the game, use rasterizer_wireframe 1 to view the level and exit and enter the hallways to see how the level geometry and objects are not drawn from the player view as this portal volume is entered and exited.
1) Select the blue base. In Face mode, create 2 polygons that exactly fit the doorways of the hallways.
2) Make sure the normals for the faces point outwards, this will help define the volume between the faces. the normals can be viewed by clicking on the Show Normals check box under Selection. If the normals are not easily visible, the lengths of the visual representations of the normals can be increased using the Scale value.
3) Detach the faces for the Exact portals by clicking on Detach under Edit Geometry. The Detach dialog window will appear.
4) In the Detach as: field enter the name "base portals".
5) Click on OK.
Repeat the above procedures 1-5 for the red base and combine the 8 faces that compose the portals into 1 object called "base portals".
The first image further explains the above procedures.

6) Now select the "base portals" object and apply the "portal materials" Multi/Sub-Object.
Once this is complete, assign the +exactportal material to the faces by selecting all the faces and setting the Material ID to 2 for the faces.
Once this is complete, the "base portals" object should be linked to the "frame".
Note that the portal materials are at 80% opacity, this is just a setting in the Sub-Material and has no effect in game, it is just used as a visual aid in 3ds Max.
The two hallways have now been defined as Exact Portal volumes.
The second image further explains the above procedures and shows the final results of the listed operations.

The level will now be divided using standard Portals.
7) Deselect all objects. Under Create click on Plane.
8) Enter the following values in the listed fields, Length Segs: 1 and Width Segs: 5
9) In the Right view, create the plane such that the edges extreme edges extend past the extents of the level.
Take this plane and create 3 more planes for a total of 4 planes that run lengthwise "North" to "South".
The third image further explains the above procedures and shows the final results of the listed operations.

10) Convert all the planes into an Editable Mesh (Edit Mesh) and Attach all the planes into 1 object called "terrain portals".
11) The planes and faces were all aligned to try and divide the level evenly. Vertices and the associated edges and faces were aligned along major edge boundaries in the level.
The fourth image further explains the above procedures and shows the final results the above procedures.

12) To further subdivide the level into more portals, faces running "West" to "East" were created using the existing vertices and edges for the planes. Only the middle 4 edges and associated vertices were used. In addition, the edges were extended past the level boundaries.
Make sure that the normals are consistent for all the faces, this will determine how the portal volumes are created.
In the example, the faces running "East" to "West" have their normals pointing North, while the faces running "North" to "South" have their normals facing "East".
13) Select all the faces and Clear All the Smoothing Groups and apply Material ID 1 to all the faces to assign the +portal material.
Once the above procedures are completed, link the "terrain portals" object to the reference frame "frame" object.
The level has now been portalled.
The fifth image or last image further explains the above procedures and shows the final results the above procedures.

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Which is my point, There should be a better one!

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Originally Posted by .Wolf™

Which is my Con's point, There should be a better one!

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Yep there sure should be.

Got that wrong, Ganon said "are there even any out there to begin with"
I said "Uh yeah The HEK tutorial got it."

Then paladin thought or atleast i think he did that i meant that the HEK tutorial one is really easy to follow which isnt what i meant. I then said Which is my point because Paladin wrote "Its not the best. It just shows you how to make them. It doesnt really tell how to port a more complex map.

HEK portals:ECT ECT" Durr, There was an missunderstanding there.. Nvm.

Most of the new content.

Someone needs to fix the textures on the map because imho it looks kinda bland. :(

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Originally Posted by Dwood

Someone needs to fix the textures on the map because imho it looks kinda bland. :(

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This. Everything is way too brown.

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Originally Posted by Dwood

Someone needs to fix the textures on the map because imho it looks kinda bland. :(

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Look back a few posts and you'll see it explained.

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Originally Posted by Cagerrin

Looking at it again, it's not the lighting that makes it look un-natural, it's the repetitiveness. Pretty much every last texture tiles rather obviously. I realize they're kind of supposed to, but it ought to be more subtle.

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Thats because the entire map has one texture on it.

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looks nice

Anyone interested in UV mapping, animating and putting in game as scenery

How would it be animated?

That's what I was thinking. Looks like a static object, can't really see how it would move except maybe a scrolling texture?

At most you would have animated textures to replicate the ones in Last Resort.

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Originally Posted by Con

At most you would have animated textures to replicate the ones in Last Resort Quid Pro Quo.

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You gotta remember, most of the Multiplayer assets are taken directly from campaign. These specific generators are located along the back wall under the glass tube ceiling.