Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
First time i have checked this "serious" discussion section for a while, i see why now.
Try having an intelligent conversation where you guys refrain from calling names for once.
To the Americans who are disappointed with the way your country has been ran, try doing something about it.
To the Americans who wont take advice from people who either live in other countrys or are from other countrys, if you have never lived outside the US for more than 4 weeks, then you have no idea what another way of life is like so your insular opinion is kinda mute.
All countrys have their own problems, and are not perfect.
To support Patrick though, Modern Germany is a decent place to be.
September 2nd, 2010, 08:07 PM
DarkHalo003
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by ICEE
This is fiction.
Nevermind, I'm done trying to show the other side of what the media sensationalizes. Yes, there are a lot of homeless people that really have it bad, but about 1/5 of them intend on being homeless after living a normal life. Those statistics are okay for all around measurements, but you completely missed what I was pointing at (when you refer to homeless people, make sure to refer to the ones who actually need referring for your point). Believe what you want.
The United States is also a decent place to be. Everyone just needs to stop sensationalizing the hell out of it. If that's why people keep saying I'm stupid just because I'm proud of my country (I'm not saying yours sucks and I never did), than get the hell over it. Pretend like it never existed. People blame so much bullshit that they never actually see how great a place actually is. Yeah, my argument was extreme, but seriously, worse things easily happen outside of the U.S. So in light of this mess, I'll just make my posts about the U.S. ninja'd so other people can't read them. Sounds good.
I agree with Maniac on this. My point about my country isn't that it isn't better than all of the others, but just a plain good country to live. From what I've heard, same goes for Britain and Germany.
September 2nd, 2010, 08:50 PM
CN3089
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I'm with you on (most parts of) the United States being an OK place to live, but Britain? Now you're just being silly.
September 2nd, 2010, 11:39 PM
Maniac
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Have you ever lived there, cn #'s?
I have never lived in the US, or us, as they like to be called so i have no idea what it is like to be a citizen there. I have however lived in the UK, Ireland and Canada.
Canada (to me) has a far higher standard of living than the UK or Ireland.
Its about time all you pissed off Americans did something to change your country anyway, imo.
Can i ask a question to the American citizens?
How much does it bother you what other country's citizens think of you as a population?
(not looking to badger anyone or flame, just interested to see some answers.)
September 2nd, 2010, 11:42 PM
CN3089
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I've visited for extended periods vOv
September 2nd, 2010, 11:59 PM
Maniac
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Whats the longest you have stayed there?
September 3rd, 2010, 12:17 AM
CrAsHOvErRide
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I have lived 2 Years in South America, 2 Years in Mexico, 4 Years in the U.S. and 11 years in Germany. I pretty much know what's going on except for those Chinese baby makers.
September 3rd, 2010, 01:15 AM
ICEE
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maniac
Can i ask a question to the American citizens?
How much does it bother you what other country's citizens think of you as a population?
(not looking to badger anyone or flame, just interested to see some answers.)
Haters gonna hate. To be honest, theres no other way to look at it. It may have its imperfections, but the US is not a bad place to be, and the people in it are far from as bad as we get reputed. However, our media has the fun habit of exposing the negative because it sells. Besides, its my personal belief that anyone who doesn't by default give the benefit of the doubt to a stranger isn't worth knowing. I don't need to deal with people judging me because of the place I was born.
September 3rd, 2010, 03:24 AM
paladin
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Maniac
How much does it bother you what other country's citizens think of you as a population?
(not looking to badger anyone or flame, just interested to see some answers.)
Quote:
Originally Posted by ICEE
Haters gonna hate. To be honest, theres no other way to look at it.
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September 3rd, 2010, 08:18 AM
Nero
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I would rather have my media expose the nagtive, than a country like Canada where you don't know what's really happening.
P.s. I love Canada. <3
September 4th, 2010, 05:15 PM
paladin
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
haha, good point
September 4th, 2010, 05:21 PM
ICEE
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I'd rather fly under the radar. It's more noble, and theres really no reason to share our shit with the world. It would be nice if we could back off as the "super power" or "world police", but I don't think we can do that at this point.
September 4th, 2010, 06:29 PM
Mass
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by ICEE
I'd rather fly under the radar. It's more noble, and theres really no reason to share our shit with the world. It would be nice if we could back off as the "super power" or "world police", but I don't think we can do that at this point.
Alas, when you're economically dependent on overseas trade/resources and your military spending dwarfs all others, you have neither the opportunity nor the incentive to back off. Additionally and unfortunately, NATO action is necessary to make the UN credible, even to the degree that it currently is...
And at dwood from earlier: Are you seriously proposing an end to government subsidies as a way to lower the cost of education? I mean perhaps in a literal sense that would be feasible but the quality of the education would invariably suffer, in addition to a rather immediate collapse of a large number of currently operating schools; it's not like our students are incapable of going elsewhere to learn... and don't forget that for the most part we're talking about non-profits. Besides it's easier to make money (and a lot of it) on a football team anyway. The real problem with the way we fund our college students is similar to many of our other problems, you have to negotiate your way through a complete clusterfuck of non-profits, foundations, public loans, private loans, (the kind that leave your wallet with a pink sock) scholarship programs, grants, work-study, etc that have stepped in to fill the gap which would be occupied by a more streamlined government system in a foreign country (giving them a leg up.) This has upsides and downsides to be sure, but it would be far superior to our current system, which creates a whole additional barrier of financial literacy to college admission. Not to even get into actually coming up with enough money...
September 7th, 2010, 04:26 PM
Dwood
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
You had a wall of text so I'm breaking it up.
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Originally Posted by Mass
And at dwood from earlier: Are you seriously proposing an end to government subsidies as a way to lower the cost of education? I mean perhaps in a literal sense that would be feasible but the quality of the education would invariably suffer
That cannot be proven. In fact, that is an extremely weak point because we do not know that. No one seems to know where the money for the expensive colleges are going, except the top brass at those colleges. Also, the money paid for at a college institution doesn't equal the quality of the education- the same principles apply in Public schools.
Another thing, I'm not saying removing subsidies from the schools to lower rates (We have state colleges for cheaper educations...) I'm saying don't let the government do that "10-year forgiveness" thing because stuff like that means that the colleges absolutely will jack up their rates, when after 10 years of paying loans they go away not matter how much (or little) is left. If I were a college I would certainly jack up the rates if loans worked that way, easy money and the taxpayer takes the hit, not the student (in the long run) on the college.
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Originally Posted by Mass
in addition to a rather immediate collapse of a large number of currently operating schools; it's not like our students are incapable of going elsewhere to learn... and don't forget that for the most part we're talking about non-profits.
Not really, since nothing truly fundamental would change. The laws governing the loans wouldn't change, just the people running the loans.
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Originally Posted by Mass
that have stepped in to fill the gap which would be occupied by a more streamlined government system in a foreign country (giving them a leg up.) This has upsides and downsides to be sure, but it would be far superior to our current system, which creates a whole additional barrier of financial literacy to college admission. Not to even get into actually coming up with enough money...
I heartily disagree that the government filling the gap of the ability to pay for college is a good idea. Especially in the U.S. where private institutions which make up the bulk of colleges are in it to turn a profit... They will capitalize on it and the people who will get hurt are those not even trying to get an education.
September 8th, 2010, 11:52 AM
sleepy1212
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I'd like to know what Sallie Mae and Citibank are worth now that everyone owes their education to them.
September 8th, 2010, 01:21 PM
Dwood
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Nothing because no one will pay them back.
September 8th, 2010, 04:50 PM
sleepy1212
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by Dwood
Nothing because no one will pay them back.
Then why did the DoE get control of the interest rates and the power to call loans or garnish wages? check your AES papers when you get them. It's kind of scary.
Also, there was a time when a student loan was a really sweet deal. super low interest rates, little expectation of repayment, power to arbitrarily raise rates and sell loans to 3rd parties capitalizing on the interest. Large extra-governmental agencies bundling up loans and selling them to investors.
Sounds a little like the hous...oh shit!
September 9th, 2010, 03:28 AM
paladin
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
my student loan has a fairly low rate, but I pay for most of my school out of pocket.
April 22nd, 2013, 09:42 PM
paladin
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Oh come on... I cant believe I have the last comment in this thread... It was getting so good!
April 22nd, 2013, 10:46 PM
Donut
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I blame minorities
April 23rd, 2013, 12:08 AM
TVTyrant
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by Donut
I blame minorities
Damn blackulas
April 23rd, 2013, 12:27 AM
TeeKup
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Talk about desecrating the grave of a dead horse only to poke it with a stick. I just re-read all of this thread. I'm surprised I didn't get into this.
I vote in favor of splitting the country. The South East can reform as The American Empire. Meanwhile the North East reform as The New England States of America. The rest of the country can claim The United States of America, move its capital to Los Angeles.
April 23rd, 2013, 12:59 AM
TVTyrant
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by TeeKup
Talk about desecrating the grave of a dead horse only to poke it with a stick. I just re-read all of this thread. I'm surprised I didn't get into this.
I vote in favor of splitting the country. The South East can reform as The American Empire. Meanwhile the North East reform as The New England States of America. The rest of the country can claim The United States of America, move its capital to Los Angeles.
We'd probably move it to Denver instead.
April 23rd, 2013, 03:26 AM
EX12693
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I dunno, LA is shitty enough to be a capital city
April 23rd, 2013, 09:45 PM
Warsaw
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Any country putting its capital near a coastal location that has the option to not do so is butt-fucking retarded.
April 23rd, 2013, 09:57 PM
Tnnaas
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Well don't stick the capitol in Kansas, we'll have a corn cob for president if that happens. Real people are born within two or three states of the east and west coast. The gulf doesn't count.
That being said, I am a grain of Milo. Beware of people from the midland.
April 24th, 2013, 11:29 AM
DarkHalo003
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Does anyone know what the gun control law premising background checks (which was blocked in Congress) completely entailed?
July 5th, 2013, 12:46 PM
Amit
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
You know what helps in that situation? Not being an asshole like him. Simple psychology.
We agreed upon policemen to be keepers of safety. If someone from the middle east would have sat in that car and reacted the same way I am pretty sure, 95% of the population would agree on him acting suspicious and would have nothing against searching his car.
The problem is simple duality: The citizens being "I am innocent, I have my rights" whining-bullshit and that policemen are simply unprofessional.
The fuck is it always with raising your voice in America as a policemen? It is obvious that it is not deescalating. What is it with referring to them as "sir"? It's not like they are a superior entity. /ranting
July 5th, 2013, 01:54 PM
Btcc22
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by Patrickssj6
If someone from the middle east would have sat in that car and reacted the same way I am pretty sure, 95% of the population would agree on him acting suspicious and would have nothing against searching his car.
Relevant because?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickssj6
You know what helps in that situation? Not being an asshole like him. Simple psychology.
'Him' referring to the policeman, right?
July 5th, 2013, 02:10 PM
Patrickssj6
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by Btcc22
Relevant because?
Human course of action in a situation is not relevant to how a police man is trained to approach situations? Either way you see it, things reduce to one thing: We are all human.
July 5th, 2013, 02:16 PM
Btcc22
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickssj6
Human course of action in a situation is not relevant to how a police man is trained to approach situations? Either way you see it, things reduce to one thing: We are all human.
Bit of a non-sequitur there.
July 5th, 2013, 02:24 PM
Patrickssj6
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Not really but since you are spare on information in your posts, hard to help.
July 5th, 2013, 05:27 PM
Higuy
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickssj6
The fuck is it always with raising your voice in America as a policemen? It is obvious that it is not deescalating. What is it with referring to them as "sir"? It's not like they are a superior entity. /ranting
Quite honestly most police officers I've ever really encountered are pretty nice and encourging and never really raise their voice. Hell, even my uncle was one, and he's pretty calm. I think a lot of people get the imperssion they are like that becuase of video's like that. I'm not saying you're wrong, the dude in the video could have been much calmer and professional, you're just generalizing.
July 5th, 2013, 10:40 PM
Bodzilla
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
July 6th, 2013, 12:45 AM
PlasbianX
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
My last experience with cops was as follows:
My two buddies and I usually go fishing late at night for catfish / bowfin. Generally go out around 11 PM and stay out till 4 AM or so, sometimes later. We fish on public property so we need to have fishing licenses, which we all have. Anyways, we're heading back one night from fishing and pulled into McDonalds to order some food since we don't take anything but water or powerade with us when fishing. We sat in the parking lot in my buddies truck eating and proceeded to leave. Upon pulling out of McDonalds, 3 cop cars come up behind us and turn on their lights. We promptly pull over as one pulls up behind us, one boxes us in from the front, and the third pulls up near the driver side. I'm driving and start questioning if I pulled out wrong or something, but my buddies assured me this wasn't the case.
Cop approaches us and asks what we were doing. We explained how we were fishing, pointed to the fish in the bed of his truck in our buckets, and said we stopped for food before going home. He then demands to see our fishing licenses. This immediately is odd to me because 1) ive never had a cop ask only a game warden and 2) we arent in the act of fishing when hes pulling us over, so how is having a license relevant? After this he then asks for our IDs. Before I can pull em out, he looks at me and says "Boy, you're incredibly fucked right now." I'm like, what do you mean sir? He tells me he ran the plates and I'm driving under a suspended license. I kinda chuckle and say that he's mistaken and I'm not the owner of the vehicle. My buddy in the passenger seat is and he's the one with the suspended license. The cop looks at our licenses, realizes he's wrong, and walks back to his vehicle.
Following that, he returns back and demands we all leave the vehicle and consent to a breathalyzer. We all pass since we weren't drinking in the least bit. At this point my other friends eyes are starting to water a bit at the fact its almost five something am and he's still not in bed. The cop flashes his light in his eyes and asks if he's high. He says no, again because we're not doing a damn thing wrong or have been doing anything wrong. The cop then tells us if we'd like to have less jail time we need to turn over our weed right this instance. We tell him we don't have any but he honestly doesn't believe us. After this, he calls for a drug sniffing dog who comes and sniffs around the vehicle. What's he find? Nothing.
The cop comes back from his car with our IDs and throws them at us and tells us to "have a good fucking night and thanks for wasting his time". The other cops never even said a word the entire time to us. This one cop was just a total asshole.
Any other instance ive had with a cop has been rather good so this one is an exception, but I didn't find it right how hardcore he was trying to bust us for something we weren't doing wrong.
July 6th, 2013, 02:58 AM
Amit
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Yes, this is Canada. There are bad apples in every basket.
July 6th, 2013, 03:33 AM
Btcc22
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I like how he remained employed. Such misconduct in any other line of work would have you out on your ear and facing charges.
July 6th, 2013, 12:43 PM
Patrickssj6
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by Higuy
Quite honestly most police officers I've ever really encountered are pretty nice and encourging and never really raise their voice. Hell, even my uncle was one, and he's pretty calm. I think a lot of people get the imperssion they are like that becuase of video's like that. I'm not saying you're wrong, the dude in the video could have been much calmer and professional, you're just generalizing.
Yeah, I realized that after posting. Must be some stereotype.
July 6th, 2013, 07:45 PM
TVTyrant
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Me last experience with cops:
I was in a really bad car wreck because a woman turned left on a red light in front of me. I hit her at 45 MPH or 73 KmH (depending on your country).
When officers arrived at the scene, they talked to me for about 5 seconds to see if I was on drugs. It was a totally normal conversation where officer Chrz (real name) asked me if I was okay and took a good look at my face.
One of the officers gave me some water and an ice pack for my hand which was swelling due to a broken bone.
Another officer offered me a dip (chewing tobacco) which I accepted.
That was it. God I love living in the American west.
July 8th, 2013, 12:51 AM
DarkHalo003
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Not all police officers are bad, just the ones you see on the news. GET IT?
July 8th, 2013, 06:35 AM
neuro
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
the most important thing i took away from this thread, is that i'm right, and darkhalo is literally the dumbest fucking mouthbreathing ignorant dumbfuck that walks the earth.
and i mean LITERALLY, i don't think i've ever seen anyone dumber than you dark halo...
holy shit man, please do the world a favor and toss yourself off a cliff.
WOW man.
you are so fucking stupid.
edit: not in reply to your last post, but to everything you said in this thread.
July 8th, 2013, 07:19 AM
Higuy
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by neuro
the most important thing i took away from this thread, is that i'm right, and darkhalo is literally the dumbest fucking mouthbreathing ignorant dumbfuck that walks the earth.
and i mean LITERALLY, i don't think i've ever seen anyone dumber than you dark halo...
holy shit man, please do the world a favor and toss yourself off a cliff.
WOW man.
you are so fucking stupid.
edit: not in reply to your last post, but to everything you said in this thread.
care to explain why rather than just ranting how hes wrong and your right for no apparent reason?
July 8th, 2013, 07:24 AM
neuro
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
nah i'd much rather keep it as-is.
July 8th, 2013, 12:18 PM
DarkHalo003
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Oh my God neuro...that...bro you need to really learn to chill the fuck out. I don't even know what I posted in this thread, I just came by to post something because I hadn't posted in the Great Debate on Madassity.net in like a month.
EDIT: So I looked back and probably the most farfetched thing I posted was about how 1/5 of homeless actually prefer to be homeless. That statement sounds really stupid, but you have to look into the definition of homeless. This includes hitchikers who spend life to travel via train to see/experience the whole country outside expensive travel regulations, people who had a lot at one point and gave it all up because they experienced a form of nirvana and yes there are communities of folks who are at a homeless status with the contentment of being homeless for whatever reason. That said, I should have either been more clear about it or not been so assertive over it. That's also just looking it defending that particular argument. (Edit) Well it's not even an argument now that I look it because you can't really justify the cruel treatment of homeless or the ignoring of homeless. For all I know, I was troll-posting three years ago.
Then there's the fact this thread was from 2010 dude. It is a necro thread in which my opinions were relatively different than how they are now. I don't know how you missed that....
All that said, that is indeed one of the best rage posts I've seen from you yet.
July 8th, 2013, 12:50 PM
=sw=warlord
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
what? no points for freetexian?
Neuro I'm ashamed of you for forgetting lancers postings.
July 9th, 2013, 12:50 PM
neuro
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
Oh my God neuro...that...bro you need to really learn to chill the fuck out. I don't even know what I posted in this thread, I just came by to post something because I hadn't posted in the Great Debate on Madassity.net in like a month.
EDIT: So I looked back and probably the most farfetched thing I posted was about how 1/5 of homeless actually prefer to be homeless. That statement sounds really stupid, but you have to look into the definition of homeless. This includes hitchikers who spend life to travel via train to see/experience the whole country outside expensive travel regulations, people who had a lot at one point and gave it all up because they experienced a form of nirvana and yes there are communities of folks who are at a homeless status with the contentment of being homeless for whatever reason. That said, I should have either been more clear about it or not been so assertive over it. That's also just looking it defending that particular argument. (Edit) Well it's not even an argument now that I look it because you can't really justify the cruel treatment of homeless or the ignoring of homeless. For all I know, I was troll-posting three years ago.
Then there's the fact this thread was from 2010 dude. It is a necro thread in which my opinions were relatively different than how they are now. I don't know how you missed that....
All that said, that is indeed one of the best rage posts I've seen from you yet.
umad bro?
July 9th, 2013, 03:22 PM
Donut
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by neuro
the most important thing i took away from this thread, is that i'm right, and darkhalo is literally the dumbest fucking mouthbreathing ignorant dumbfuck that walks the earth.
and i mean LITERALLY, i don't think i've ever seen anyone dumber than you dark halo...
holy shit man, please do the world a favor and toss yourself off a cliff.
WOW man.
you are so fucking stupid.
edit: not in reply to your last post, but to everything you said in this thread.
Quote:
Originally Posted by neuro
umad bro?
:raise:
July 9th, 2013, 03:50 PM
ThePlague
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
I've never gotten a ticket or been written up before, but I'm sure I wouldn't like it as much as the next person. I have been pulled over once, at about 2 AM when I went out for a bite to eat one night when I couldn't sleep. This was way past midnight in empty streets in an otherwise very populated town. I cooperated, I was 21 at that time, license and registration, told me I was going a little too fast, and told me it was just a minor warning and to slow down. What I'm not saying is that everybody should be a goody-two shoes to try and suck it up to a cop. No; in fact, I don't like cops, just by virtue that they have potential to have unrestrained control over you and your rights.
Mind you, I live in Long Island, NY, and we have cops here whose job intensity doesn't extend past drunk and unruly teenagers. Same goes for NYPD, I'd say. They have their fair share of serious crime, but I'd say it doesn't hold a candle to LAPD, Detroit, Memphis, etc. Also, about 2-3 times I've encountered cops while wearing my ACU's. If you're in uniform, chances are they're extra extra nice to you (or sometimes the complete opposite). One time some cop tried to swipe me in for a MetroCard because I was carrying a huge rucksack and my other gear. I don't agree with this AT ALL. Sure the preferential treatment is nice, but I think it devalues professionalism, which I really hate when I think about it. You can just tell they'd treat certain people differently. One minute I'm a 21 yr old punk who hates cops and the next I'm an upstanding citizen just because of my uniform? Meanwhile, an ordinary person who is equally innocent is suddenly OMG SUSPECT APPROACH WITH CAUTION. God help you if you're Muslim; can you imagine?
Gotta agree with Patrick, and gotta say I feel sorry for PlasX. Because as much as cops should be professional, if they're tyrants and they're also in uniform, suddenly the asshole factor gets amplified by 100. Fuck dirty cops. There is no place in society for them whatsoever. Seriously, imprisonment is the only solution. And finally, if you're a fat fuck as a cop and you don't hold a desk job, do your city a favor and get out. Lol... For other professions, I couldn't care less, but as a cop, you should know better. Nobody needs a power-tripping authority figure who can't even outrun the real criminals.
July 9th, 2013, 08:50 PM
Btcc22
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by ChemicalFizz
if you've got nothing to hide, just let him search and prove him wrong.
This part of your post stood out for me. "If you've got nothing to hide, you've got nothing to fear". :smith:
July 9th, 2013, 11:34 PM
PlasbianX
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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Originally Posted by ChemicalFizz
I've never gotten a ticket or been written up before, but I'm sure I wouldn't like it as much as the next person. I have been pulled over once, at about 2 AM when I went out for a bite to eat one night when I couldn't sleep. This was way past midnight in empty streets in an otherwise very populated town. I cooperated, I was 21 at that time, license and registration, told me I was going a little too fast, and told me it was just a minor warning and to slow down. What I'm not saying is that everybody should be a goody-two shoes to try and suck it up to a cop. No; in fact, I don't like cops, just by virtue that they have potential to have unrestrained control over you and your rights.
Mind you, I live in Long Island, NY, and we have cops here whose job intensity doesn't extend past drunk and unruly teenagers. Same goes for NYPD, I'd say. They have their fair share of serious crime, but I'd say it doesn't hold a candle to LAPD, Detroit, Memphis, etc. Also, about 2-3 times I've encountered cops while wearing my ACU's. If you're in uniform, chances are they're extra extra nice to you (or sometimes the complete opposite). One time some cop tried to swipe me in for a MetroCard because I was carrying a huge rucksack and my other gear. I don't agree with this AT ALL. Sure the preferential treatment is nice, but I think it devalues professionalism, which I really hate when I think about it. You can just tell they'd treat certain people differently. One minute I'm a 21 yr old punk who hates cops and the next I'm an upstanding citizen just because of my uniform? Meanwhile, an ordinary person who is equally innocent is suddenly OMG SUSPECT APPROACH WITH CAUTION. God help you if you're Muslim; can you imagine?
Gotta agree with Patrick, and gotta say I feel sorry for PlasX. Because as much as cops should be professional, if they're tyrants and they're also in uniform, suddenly the asshole factor gets amplified by 100. Fuck dirty cops. There is no place in society for them whatsoever. Seriously, imprisonment is the only solution. And finally, if you're a fat fuck as a cop and you don't hold a desk job, do your city a favor and get out. Lol... For other professions, I couldn't care less, but as a cop, you should know better. Nobody needs a power-tripping authority figure who can't even outrun the real criminals.
I do fully agree with this. While there are a fair share of police brutality videos and what not on youtube, I don't feel that they accurately portray cops. Sure I had one bad run in, but that doesn't include all of my good ones. My first run in involved me sliding on ice and having a fender bender (didnt do any damage to the car I hit, just mine). The cop who came to take care of the situation was amazingly nice, let me drive a nonstreet legal car (head lights were busted) and even drove in front of me and drove to my house to make sure I drove home safe. Mind you this was only a 2 mile drive if that, but that was rather nice of him. As for a solicitation, he gave me the absolute minimum he could in terms of a fine.
Second instance I was on a road I'd never been on commuting to college for my first day and was pulled over for doing 55 in a zone I thought was 55 (was really 45). Told the officer i didn't know the area yet and that I was a freshmen, he told me the speed limit as well as an easier route to get to college from my town, and let me go with a warning. So again, I had 1 extremely bad experience, but maybe that cop was having a bad day. Who knows.
July 10th, 2013, 10:39 AM
DarkHalo003
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
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umad bro?
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July 10th, 2013, 10:00 PM
n00b1n8R
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
US President Barack Obama quietly signed his name to an Executive Order on Friday, allowing the White House to control all private communications in the country in the name of national security.
THANK YOU BASED OBAMA FOR PROTECTING US CITIZENS FROM THE MUSLIM THREAT
July 10th, 2013, 10:40 PM
Bodzilla
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.
SO GLAD I"M FREE
July 11th, 2013, 04:49 AM
Patrickssj6
Re: America: Land of the Free and Home of the Bull Shit.