Yeah, when u were right up his ass u could, and that's the point. the smg is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by .:}_50Çã{_|neاâ€*yles<â„¢>:.
the br nade ammo and strengh was fixed though i believe, not sure.
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Yeah, when u were right up his ass u could, and that's the point. the smg is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by .:}_50Çã{_|neاâ€*yles<â„¢>:.
the br nade ammo and strengh was fixed though i believe, not sure.
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Originally Posted by .:}_50Çã{_|neا†yles<™>:.
I hope that's not possible on Legendary...Legendary should be impossible...y'know? that cheat for Alldev "cheat_game_difficulty_impossible" I think that was the code...anyway, The difficulty levels of gameplay should counteract with the enemies health and damage affect towards MC. Therefore, making campaign harder. I've been looking for a challenge =/
Is this already made possible?
your first campaign was alright compared to what we'll be facing in this next campaign version, and I hope these difficulties will pose to me and some others as an enhanced challenge. Looking forward to it.
That spartan concept that dano posted looks like something from PlanetSide lol.
What the crap do you mean by "right up his ass?" :confused:Quote:
Yeah, when u were right up his ass u could, and that's the point. the smg is fine.
The SMG isn't fine. It renders every single enemy trivial. Accordingly, it also renderes the AR useless. There's no situation in which the AR would be preferable to the SMG.
Part of the process of balancing is giving each weapon pros and cons. The rate of fire is way too high. You can mow down everyhting like your god.
I apologize for sounding like as asshole, but all I sensed in that paragraph was stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by .:}_50Çã{_|neا†yles<™>:.
The SMG is a short ranged weapon, its power lies in its sheer amount of bullets. The AR uses stronger bullets while retaining a medium to medium-longe range. Most players in the CE community will likely play on heroic or legendary in the CMT campaign; meaning the players will want to stay at a distance. As far as I see it, the SMG is whats useless here.
I agree, I do actually prefer the Assault Rifle over the SMG. only because of it's range capabilities, and for my name, that should show why. *cough*, Snyper. COUGH*Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
SMG does not suck, I find it quite useful in MANY situations, as a default weapon, I have to find good use for it and it has, it hasn't worked all the time, but it does sometimes...The SMG is the way it should be.
CMT couldn't have done better on an SMG such as the one we currently use. So stop smack talkin' it, we understand you're not used to weapon statistics such as the SMG's. But, that's what the gun was made for....to help you win, now if you don't want to kill an elite or anyone with it, I suggest you go somewhere else, cause CMT makes weapons that are USEFUL to kick the shit out of an enemy, or betraying allies (=P). The SMG and, in its own way, the Assault Rifle just so happen to be those weapons....leave this at that unless you have something that will counter this post, and lets focus on something else here.
Nuh uh, I used the SMG down to the last bullet every chance I got. Unless, ironically, it was against Flood. CMT's SMG just wasn't useful against the Flood.Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
I've always overlooked the SMG in multiplayer because i assumed it was as shit as h2.
so after reading how effective i'd been meaning to give it a go the other day.
i usually play snowgrove with AR and pistol or BRG.
so i tried the SMG with the AR. it worked allright. good close to mid-long range effectivness. i just found that the SMG was all but useless except at point blank (not my style of play) and preferable with against no shields.
in SP, the SMG was good for grunts and infectious and going toe to toe with elites. i'd be sad to see it go D:
Well, point blank is my style of play, so I find it usefull :D
My plan is to keep my target at a distance no matter what. If he gets close he can taste my fist and a shotgun round to the face.
isn't that kind of a waste of weapon slots?Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
if they get to close to me, i just give them a good wack'n'clip of AR to fuck them up.
cos i'm badass like that.
You're AR smack won't be enough to stun a brute so you can kill it will it?
umm.. I don't know?
why the FUCK would you go mele on a brute?
Err.... Shit happens :X.
Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
yea idk who would want to go up close with a brute???.................(unless i have a shotgun different story)
not when the shit hits harder than u do ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
The only time you go up to a Brute if if you're trying to assassinate it. (which hopefully won't be as easy as Halo 2. There, you just dodge his lunge and *smack* one dead brute.) That, or you have a shotgun and want to attempt to kill it with one. (and Brutes shouldn't have shotguns; covenant troops refused to use "filthy human weapons" even when theirs were empty. They would sooner die than use one.)
did you play the later levels of H2?
some brutes used human shotguns.
and rocket launchers...i think while you were playing
thats right...an elite won't even touch fully loaded UNSC Assault rifles at their feet. They have a rule about using "heretic" weapons. But brutes don't really care.
Like they said in Ghosts Of Onyx, "Brutes are not Elites", which means that they don't act in the same way. Therefore, they will use human weapons.
That was utter BULLSHIT. On legendary that was a pain in the damn ass.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
None of our brutes use human weapons. Might be intersting to have some on the flood levels use them though.
in H2 they use shotguns, which raises some semi interesting questions. where did they get shotguns? how do they pump it to reload with just one hand?
They use the other hand. However, bungie never put an animation for this in the game, so for all I know they use telekenisis or something.
And yes, Brutes using human weapons on flood levels would fit, especially The Library and 343 Guilty Spark. There would be too much of a shortage of Covie weapons to go around, with all the infected Marines around.
One suggestion, if it's possible, have the AI have to reload their weapons like you do.
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Originally Posted by Edward Elrich
AI in Halo have always reloaded weapons. >_>
they do? never saw them do that. i guess with most of them using 60 round clip ar's on 3-shot bursts they wouldnt survive long enough to run out...
Meh... I was assessing the SMG on a per level basis. Consider how it's charactersitics apply to some of the purely close range levels.Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
Like the first one? I remember mowing down every single enemy in the drop ship like they were paper dolls.
AI in Halo 1 reloading, huh? I don't remember flood with rocket launchers doing that. At first they'd fire two, and when I thought I could get close enough to kill them while they reloaded, *kaboom!* and I die.
And I assessed the SMG on a general basis. The AR wins over the SMG in any level in my book. You just have to know how to use the thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by .:}_50Çã{_|neاâ€*yles<â„¢>:.
I don't know if the Flood ever reload, but the Covenant and Marines do. The Flood probably reload and there's just no 3p animation for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Edward Elrich
I never notice anyone reload, maybe sometimes a few sounds or something. Flood have bottomless clip+infinite ammo cheats on them (everyone knows it, don't deny). Btw, thanks for the updates Master, now I know all the stuff thats in SPv2.
So Masterz i take it from what you have out down about the E-S means you wont be able to use it?
Maybe the MA5B, but not the MA5C. That 60 round clip is very important when u just need to fill someone with rounds quickly.Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
The MA5C is usable in most smg ideal situations, but as defined, its not ideal.
Care to give us your insight on why the MA5C isn't ideal other than its shortened clip. As far as I see it the MA5C IS the better weapon. I see you people defending the SMG because its easier to use since you basically don't have to aim.:downs:Quote:
Originally Posted by ImSpartacus
That's basically the point of the SMG... to spray and prayQuote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
Exactly, its an almost useless weapon for those of us who like to kill our targets with clean precision. If I was given a choice between and SMG and nothing, I'd pic the SMG just so I can beat my enemy over the head with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedMetroid
Why would I want to use clean precision, I'm a shotguns - SMGs - PPSh kind of guy
Don't expect to run and gun against the brutes.
Exactly, you have to take your time with a powerful enemy, which is exactly what I can do. :downs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Rocket + melee + stick. Works on Elites. You can ALWAYS run and gun if you're smart about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Brutes arn't elites though :)
If they don't die with a rocket, melee, and stick... there's something wrong with the mod. Even Hunters can't live through thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
Rocket, melee, and stick? Since when did Elites require anything more than a couple of Pistol rounds?
When you're on Legendary fighting Zealots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dole
One sticky should do any elite in, regardless of rank. I have yet to sticky someone and not have them die in a glorious blue explosion. Playing "Truth & Reconciliation" on Legendary, the only way to get through was to sticky every Zealot that ran at out. Unless you were insane with a plasma pistol+sniper combo.
hunters don't die to sticky's IIRC :downs:
Neither did Zealots when I played >_> Not one stick when they have full shields
Halo 1 or Halo 2? Halo 2 was wanked out on Legendary to the point of being ridiculous, so I wouldn't be surprised there.
@n00b1n8r: Notice I said any elite. Key word there.
Halo 1, I don't remember stickies killing Zealots in one hit. That would be stupid. In Halo 2 they didn't kill ANY elites in one hit.
Stickies killed every single Elite I ever stuck in one stick...even non-stuck lower ranked Elites died in a single plasma grenade explosion in Halo 1. I just got through playing "Truth & Reconciliation" on Legendary again, and every plasma that was stuck to a Zealots killed it.
As for Halo 2, anything below White that was stuck, was killed in one grenade (on Legendary).
wait when does the ma5b and ma5c appear? all i remember from all the halo games i've played are assault rifles, and mayb some varientsQuote:
Originally Posted by ImSpartacus
i kno that both the ma5b and c are ar, but what's the difference? can someone explain it to me? post some pics(3p and 1p plz) mayb?
Edit: Fixed that for you....Quote:
Originally Posted by TrU7H
The MA5b is the Halo 1 assault rifle, whereas the MA5c is the Halo 3 assault rifle.
The Ma5b was a lower-caliber, higher ROF; almost sub-machine gun variant in the MA5 series. Not really accurate.
The MA5c has a lower ROF and a higher caliber than the MA5b. It is also much more accurate. The MA5c is a little longer than the MA5b, and you can see that the barrel is a little longer. The ejection port is farther back, also illustrating its higher caliber.
*Off topic* The MA5k is another variant in the MA5 series. It's a carbine version. A carbine, I believe, is a variant with a shorter barrel, but a harder-hitting round (larger caliber). Just like the CMT has it.
AND PLEASE USE PROPER GRAMMAR!!!!
The definition of "carbine" varies. It may either be a shorter version of a full size assault rifle, a semi auto version of a full sized assault rifle, or a rifle-sized weapon utilizing pistol cartridges.
And actually, the MA5B and the MA5C use the same bullet. Read the ammunition packages in Halo 1, and they will say "7.62x51mm M118A AP." Bungie stated that the MA5C also fires the 7.62mm, and the only other 7.62 rounds out there are the 7.62x39mm, 7.62x54mm Rimmed and 7.62x63mm (.30-06). The first two are Russian rounds, and the last is admirable, but obsolete (and inferior to the NATO 7.62mm).
As far as the shorter magazine, they both have the same dimensions. Bungie just waved their magic wand in Halo 1 and managed to stuff 60 7.62 NATO rounds in there.
And the ejection point would actually have to be further up, if the gun had a larger round, because the whole cartridge would be longer, and thus, the port must be bigger, and you still need room in the gun for the action to cycle.
Personally, I want an MA2C in the game. I am dying to see what it actually looks like.
Holy moly, local Weaponologist indeed.
Wasn't the ROF higher on the MA5C?Quote:
Originally Posted by Haloking365
There is no difference. Both are 15 rounds per second. :/Quote:
Originally Posted by Dole
Yeah, I wasn't sure about that one.
15 rounds per second is ridiculous. Modern assault rifles only fire at about on average 800 rounds per minute, with the two most common being 600rpm and 1000rpm.
Yes, I am too lazy to convert that to rounds per second at the moment.
Go to Bungie and check the new Assault Rifle Specs. It WILL say 15 rounds per second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Found it:
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Posted by: irishproud34
Here is a comparison of the MA5B and MA5C
Ammo Capacity:
MA5B: 60 rounds per clip, 600 maximum capacity
MA5C: 32 rounds per clip, maximum capacity unknown
Rate of Fire:
MA5B: 900 rounds per minute (15 rounds per second)
MA5C: 750-900 rounds per minute (12.5 to 15 rounds per second)
Apparently, automatic fire of the MA5C will exhaust the clip in something like 2.5 to 3 seconds. Likely bungie is doing this to discourage spraying and praying, as that reload time could be very painful.
I know what it says. I am telling you that 15 rounds per second is too fast to be practical. 15 rounds per second=900 rounds per minute, which on full auto, is ridiculous using a 7.62x51mm. The modern assault rifles firing in the 1000rpm range are almost always using burst fire, not full automatic, and that is using the puny 5.56x45mm NATO.
It's a sci-fi video game kid, get over it. It's not meant to be entirely realistic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
You are forgetting that Marines are not augmented and do not wear power suits. And it is a realistic kind of sci-fi, with most aspects of it being believable.
And watch who you call kid. I don't think you quite realize who you are talking to.
That being said. The year is 2552. How do we know that some kind of technology has been created to make this possible. Regardless if its meant to be realistic or not, its a video game, anything is possible in a video game if the developer wishes it. Agree with it or not, thats how it is ingame. I personally like the effect; as someone said on the bungie forums:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
The sight of an elite being pummled (sp) by a weapon with the force of a baseball bat every .5 seconds seems like fun to me.Quote:
That said, shooting any of these bullets out of a 8.5 lb rifle would be like getting hit with a baseball bat.
And you're right, I DON'T know who I'm talking to and I don't much care. You're new, I'll gladly give respect when it's earned.
You bungled up my MA2C and spent more time playing than working on anything, despite saying you would work on them, managing to tick me and other people off, and effectively killing a project that might have had some potential...getting ideas yet?
As far as your statement goes, I was posting my opinion, and how it should be realistically. I wasn't saying anything should be changed, but only that it is ridiculous. And believe it or not, there are some folks in this world who appreciate a realistic game, even if it is based in a sci-fi environment.
Then we have a solid footing then. At this point I'm into realistic Air combat simulators. I have a few realistic FP games such as BLACKâ„¢ and a few others. All I'm really saying is:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Welcome to the Halo community, loosen up and go with the flow. :)
I've been with the Halo community longer than you man...don't you remember who I am?
(*Hint*, it has to do with the highest card in the highest suite in a deck of cards)
:downs:
Ace Of Spades? THE Ace Of Spades from EP? Where have you been man. :) I would like to withdraw that rude comment from before. >_>
Lol, yessir, that would be me.
I withdraw as well. :)
I stand corrected.....
It's probably realistic for the year 2552.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Already stated on the previous page.
I know, I was just reminding him.
There is no need to remind Warsaw/Ace Of Spades. He's one of the most intelligent and well informed person I know when it comes to weapons. I believe his father works for Lockheed Martin, he will have to confirm that, its been a long time.
Thanks for the specs, cleared up some questions.Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
Thanks. And yes, he does work for Lockheed.Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
As far as anti-recoil would go in the MA5C, it doesn't have enough room on top for a BARS (Balanced Automatic Recoil System), since it has that computer. And in the back, all the room is taken up by the magazine and the bolt carrier, however, it might have a system that angles the recoil downwards, instead of directly against the shoulder, like the modern TDI Kriss Super V SMG.
15 rounds a second with a 30 round clip O.o
MADNESS.
Yeah wait a second. 15 rounds a second and only a 32 round magazine? This thing should be emptying itself faster than a mac 10,but it doesn't. Bungee lied to me :saddowns:Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
Exactly...
I win. :p
Ok i`m getting really impatient.... Whens the update for the last 2 weapons, and last vehicle? Same with the pics/vids....
well, you just have to wait for them. I mean SPv2 is a pretty big project.
and refrain from just blurting "Hurry UP! CMT, i mean its like so long" or "Can't you like umm like hurry up or something , cuz i like can't wait like anymore". Let's try our best to contribute to the forums and ppl. I'm not trying to offend you or anything. There are lots of CMT fans (like me) who are still anticipating the release or updates of CMT Spv2.
Also, as been mentioned before, these people aren't being paid to do this. Therefore, they do it as long as it remains a hobby and doesn't become a chore.
I meant about the things like pics and other updates... not for the actual game...
but couldn't u just put them there for other people's use? personally i would use it to block, say a doorway or a charging hunter, just long enough to, as someone else already pointed out, reload, charge my shields, and right before it disappears, i chuck a nade, etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Masterz1337
personally, there were numerous places where i could've used the buddle shield
also, i really want to see the phantoms in SPv2, the spirit kinda looked....well.....gay
We won't give effort to something that we know won't work the way we intend it to.
Phantom, much as we too would love to have it, we don't have a custom model for it.
Thrown by AI? What does that mean?
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Originally Posted by TrU7H
Really? I thought the reverse. Phantoms took part of the "Covenant" out of the Covenant somehow...
He means exactly what he said. In halo, a biped has a limit of 2 grenade types, i believe. That would conflict with the fact that there are already 2 grenades filling those up. So, the only way to make them work would be to have them as a weapon in itself, and thats just confusing:confused2:.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dole
Though, a game type where all you have are grenades, and you have a first person view of said grenades, would be fun. Crazy infinite grenade games...=D And grenade melee attacks. I've always wanted to melee someone with a needler grenade, and in Halo 3's case, the spike grenade. :D
I've always wished you could use melee to stick people :saddowns:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Exactly my thought. The Phantoms used turbine thrusters, seen throughout the underside of the Phantom, it really is a lag in covenant technology.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Actually, it had typical Covenant plasma thrusters, but the whole ship just looked stupid in my opinion.
Oh. Alright then.
I thought it had alot more presence to it which made it more intimidating when you had to fight them on the second level.
CMT's Spirit drop ships with exploding Wraith cannons were a lot more intimidating. And When you have several Spirits in even regular Halo, you know you are in for it, where as in Halo 2, it was just like "All right! Line 'em up and knock 'em down!" as they exited slowly, and all in the exact same spot.
noo, CMTV1's spirits were just retarted.
I believe the new SPV2 Spirits are beautiful.
But you still ducked for cover.Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
that's because they were flying wraiths of death, not because they looked cool.
i still say H2 drop ship > H1 drop ship.
it was one of major improvements of H2 IMO.
^ agreed. even though my fellow marines liked to engage it with their smgs and didnt quite give a damn about its cannons wich leads me to the statement that
h2 AI sucked.
I must confess, when I heard there weren't going to be H2 Dropships in SPv2, I was deeply dissapointed.
cause that shitz is da bomb.