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If only this article wasn't so biased. Sure some of the stuff mentioned is true, but do you actually think it's entirely up to the governor to decide whether to take funds or not? Theres a lot of money to be made without regulations from the federal government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
This is the best point you have made in our little exchange. I agree whole heartedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
On the Eugenics thing: You just mad because we beat you guys every year in the Olympics.
Anyways, I think we are done here (at least the two of us). Both of us are refusing to budge on our positions, and whilst I agree that we have always been behind on socio economic issues, I think that's like saying the Middle East is 400 years behind culturally. It is, and we all are going to have to accept that. I vote progressive and that's all I can do to help the issue.
Arbiter: Never ever say that we have the same beliefs again, because we don't. No, killing doesn't forfeit your own life. I had a friend who grew up is Akron Ohio who killed a man while he was trying to rape his mother. That's not forfeiting his life. You need to sit down and think out these thoughts before typing them out.
I know. I'm not even mad. I'm impressed.Quote:
Originally Posted by t3h m00kz
pretty much this. So. Much. Rage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
Fixed that for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by t3h m00kz
@Warsaw: Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
Some people just need to chill the fuck out. Seriously, what is the point of arguing over the internet?
Did I say we have the same beliefs? No I did not.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
This is why crimes go to trail, to determine if such crime is justified. Lets say you killed a man because you just don't like him? Is that justifiable?
My mistake that I wasn't clear on what I agreed.
Trial*Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
Trial is where you are tested, trails are what are left behind after things transfer from location A to location B.
Thanks for the correction. Not really a fan of typing from cell phones.
Then stop, you can't blame auto correct for some of the shitty posting you've made.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
So when does my beliefs become shitty? I am demanding you to to believe the same? No I am not. Who is to say what is correct?
You believe that those who kill should themselves be killed, by that logic alone the executioner who kills the convict should then be killed themselves for killing the convict.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
you've also demonstrated no empathy towards those who have been found falsely guilty and executed and dismissed it as life isn't fair, that is how your belief is shitty and wrong.
An eye for an eye will only make the whole world blind, executing people because they've committed crimes does not absolve those acts nor does it revoke the damage caused, all it does is gives those people a quick way out of taking responsibility for their actions whilst also inflicting the same damage the victim suffers onto those who are personally attached to those who are executed.
If one of your loved ones were to be falsely accused, tried and executed for a crime you would be screaming murder at the verdict and the sentence.
Never seen WarLord mad beforeQuote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
I miss you brutha
I can take umbrage, I can take the cake, I can take the A-train. I can take two and call me in the morning, but I cannot take this sitting down.
+repQuote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
see folks this is what a good post looks likeQuote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
apparently there is a counter-petition doing the rounds asking for all who sign the initial petition to have their citizenship revoked, lolllll
I don't even think you can revoke American citizenship. Once you have it's there forever muahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
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Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Blame the jury and forensics team for doing a shitty job, not the state governor.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
you're a fuckstain
the state governor authorised the execution, he is the only man who can actually pardon someone from an execution, he has done a whole lot of the former and never done the latter, not even to take someone out of death row who doesn't belong there
also, killing is never justified, it is only 'understandable' and execution is only understandable to repulsive swamp-people with lower intellect than a rotting log
Even if it were possible to revoke citizenship, I didn't sign it either way. Why? Because I know it won't go anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Is that the best you can do?Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
really?
I'm flabbergasted.
Let's play it your way.
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You're outta here!
The only reason the south truly opposes most forms of birth control is they realize they're a dying breed and realize that actual rational thought and critical analysis is becoming the hip thing to have under your belt.
If there's thing that's going in your favour it's that you don't live in Kentucky where they have people trying to revoke evolution from science classes and replace it with creationism citing evolution as a theory with no proof but on the same coin wanting to replace evolution with the theology of christian creationism.
lol the comments, here's a gem from 'ALLI' of texas:
yeah sounds like an awesome + cool state full of level-headed and compassionate peopleQuote:
Another liberal making excuses for people who commit horredous crimes because they were poor or the wrong color or... I'm so sick of these people. If you break the law, suffer the consequences and if it means you die, then sobeit.
Oh, absolutely not neuro. I do not subscribe to such bullshit. I was talking in the perspective of America's educational system. I believe everyone should have equal education. For the most part, very good quality education. I agree with you 100% without a doubt, sorry if it seemed misleading. I was just stating the factual truth behind America's corporatism.Quote:
Originally Posted by neuro
Killing as a whole is bad. The only time it is acceptable is when you are putting someone out of their misery, such as suffering so much that they will eventually die anyways. But ending someones life because of revenge does not make you a better person. In fact, you just become a mirror image of the person you just killed.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
speaking of america, prison, and corporatism: what is your opinion, arbiter901, on involuntary human testing on prisoners as outlined in this article
are those liberal lies too or what
(also the part where the us intentionally and secretly dropped poisonous chemicals on canadian cities as well as its own is absolutely fucking disgusting and further proof canada should pull out of norad and cozy up to someone america hates just to make them mad)
Damn are we good at this whole evil empire thing
If only we'd just start saying we were one and then I'd be much more okay with it.
The Death Penalty is a huge issue in the Mid/Southwest. A lot of wrongly accused and tried people wind up there, plus people don't realize how inaccurate DNA testing can be even if it can be very accurate at times. However, really the issue is that the detectives of the region are very one-sided: they try and investigate who they damn-well please and even if evidence does not surround said suspect the detectives shall follow their "gut." You only follow your gut when evidence is pointing it. Detectives and FBI both have this sort of stupidity to them now-a-days and in smaller-town-settings found in the Mid/Southwest it's even more prevalent. On top of that, the law enforcement becomes so pressured by media that they have to ACCUSE and ARREST someone, even if they're innocent or lack proper evidence. That's fucked up.
ALL HEIL BRITANYEAH!Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
I'm not buying it until disney actually builds a death star.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
We were talking about unjustifiable crimes here. Common sense. If you're too stupid to realize that by now then stfuQuote:
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(Yes, crimes can be justified, or understandable and reasonable)
If the defense failed to proof innocence in time, and it all points to guilty then there is nothing that can be done.Quote:
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Have you actually visited our penitentiaries, or talked to any of those convicts? Those individuals will never change. We live in a different society than all of you foreigners. Yeah our shitty drug laws contribute to most of that, but hey blame the federal government and corruption.Quote:
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Deep down I think its wrong, but honestly it had to be done. How else would have knowledge on cures for diseases or radiation sickness etc? We would probably be behind on research. Would you agree? Proabably not.Quote:
speaking of america, prison, and corporatism: what is your opinion, arbiter901, on involuntary human testing on prisoners as outlined in this article
Beleive it or not the US would never allow such a thing. Look at these Latin american countries that tried going against us in the past.Quote:
canada should pull out of norad and cozy up to someone america hates just to make them mad
The US would have no say in the matter at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
International law states a nation may determine it's own identity without external pressure.
Believe it or not, the USA is bound by international law.
Where does it say English is my native language?Quote:
own native language
I'm born to Hungarian immigrants. So English is definitely not my first language.
There's your problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
How is this even relevant to what we're discussing?Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
You obviously don't know TVTyrant...Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
This is the internet. There is no need to know some random fuck.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingFisher
Oh I do apologise, your speedtest stated you were testing from Texas and given how much you seem to hate foreigners I had come to the possibility that you may be native to Texas but nope, you're a foreigner yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
All of a sudden your complaints about foreigners pointing things out about Texas seems...hypocritical.
Someone's never heard of a one night stand....:v:Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
It's called reading posts. Even a user from 2009 should have figured out most of the forum members personality by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
No where does it say I was born in Hungary. so your post is invalid. Being born in Texas and raised around it's culture does not make me a foreigner.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
But he wouldQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
Hey ross, remember when you told me you'd heard what the Soviet Union was like from someone who actually lived there? Remember how you said it wasn't really the kind of place the western media portrayed it as? Now you're here, telling me what my state is like based on second hand information. Wonderful. There are fuckups everywhere, and they always get the most publicity. You said that yourself. That doesn't mean the majority of people living here are fag-hating negro-lynching rednecks.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Honestly, I think we had a bit of a miscommunication to start with. If you're trying to tell me that the Texas government is backwards, then by all means. I agree completely. That said, you've got your head so far up your ass right now I don't see the point in trying to have a real discussion. I seriously hope you're intentionally shitposting.
This is tvtyrant. everyone needs to know tvtyrant :haw:Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
Hey scrubs. This just in:
http://news.msn.com/politics/seven-s...-white-house-3
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The petitions for secession from the U.S. filed by Texas, Louisiana, and five other states have collected more than 25,000 signatures each, which the White House website says is enough for review and response.
Rad. Guys, shut up, the show's starting.
Most of those states share a border with one another. If they could get a few more states on-board, they could make a clean split off the south-east.
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Originally Posted by thehoodedsmack
Also, there are now petitions up for secession in all 50 states.Quote:
Originally Posted by thehoodedsmack
I signed the md one maybe we can be part of the confederacy finally
No. We dont want fuckin yankees in our confederacy.
okayQuote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
yeah america is arguably the most evil country of recent history since all the other evil ones like nazi germany didn't last long or are gradually mellowing out a bit, the saddest thing is that it is only because americans seem too hung up on blind, idiotic nationalism to careQuote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
a decent darkhalo post, well i'll be damnedQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
worth note also: in the midwest and particularly south, and even to some vestigial extent in the northern states, detectives' guts have this weird condition where they always seem to latch on to ethnic minorities as the most likely suspect??? how odd
we are indeed talking about the death penalty, i am glad we agree that is the current subject matterQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
actually there is, it is called 'not signing off the death warrant' or better still, 'refusing to carry out the death penalty and permanently abolishing it by law'Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
oddly enough these are things rick perry seems physically incapable of, perhaps he is too busy bragging about all the people he has had put to death, i am glad it is possible for sociopathic murderers to become state governors in the united states. maybe you could try reanimating pol pot as a potential replacement for the next one who pops their clogs
why do you ask? i'm fairly fucking sure you haven'tQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
since you ask though i have met a few people who used to be in jail here on fairly serious charges and had managed to turn their lives around, since over here prison is about trying to fix broken people, not trying to get a better k:d ratio than the previous governor
objectively false, tell me more about your extensive knowledge of rehabilitation and psychology/psychiatryQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
yes, for one thing we do not allow our government to murder people and then cheer & whoop drunkenly about it and high five each other in the streetsQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
lol you want to blame everyone except the asshole signing the death warrants, you are a fucking horrible person, no jokeQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
funnily enough a huge amount of it was nothing to do with curing diseases and everything to do with assholes being curious about 'what happens if i directly inject the active chemical from agent fucking orange into a person's bloodstream', medical research seems to be doing just fucking dandy right now without torturing and killing thousands of prisoners and ethnic minorities or poorsQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
of course, america would kill more people because it is a disgusting power-mad cesspool. i forgot. it's already sprayed aerosol poisons above canadian cities without telling anyone, i'm sure they'd have no issue doing it again on a more serious scale this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
the sooner the eu, canada, and all the other major powers team up and put your insane fucked up country in its place the better off the world will be
hmmm yes, secondhand from people who live there, i don't see your point?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
what does suggest that is the state's politics, which either reflect the majority of the state, or reflect a vocal minority but the majority are so fucking disinterested they don't care about rectifying the situation. sorry, but all evidence points firmly in the direction you don't like.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
and who put the government in power, and allows it to stay in power?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
certainly not all texans are awful, just apparently 51% or more are
I care. I just don't exactly see it as a bad thing. I reap the benefits, so why the fuck not? I still don't understand why we left Iraq. We never got our oil goddamit.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
you certaintly should see it as a bad thing, whether you profit or not
But that's the thing man; if you gained something from Imperialism, would you like it or hate it? I have said it before and will say it again: I despise what this country does because we try to hide behind stars and stripes when we do it. If we had a black flag with an AR-15 on it with a slogan like "For God and Country" while we were forced to convert to Mormonism or something I think I could accept it a little bit more, because then we'd be a real Empire worthy of the name.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Basically, I want the Union to split up so I don't have to be associated with the tards or I want to live in Rome full heartedly. Is that really too much to ask for?
Hey remember when the japs did all these terrible horrific things to POW's so they could research chemical warfare, and then they got bombed?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Guess who cut a deal saving them prosecution and took all their findings......
So I see those years in education being taught your national language came to nothing then.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
Your families native language may be Hungarian but you were born and raised in America thus making English your native language as America is your native homeland.
hate it, because i don't give a flying shit about myselfQuote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
it'd be more acceptable to everyone in the sense that you'd no longer be trying to lie to them and swoon them into being yourQuote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
next victimfriend, but the actual behaviour itself would obviously not be
yeah seriously dude. were you homeschooled and/or a giant spergin shut-in? just by virtue of living in america from a young age you should have good english, let alone being born thereQuote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Unfortunately that pretty generally is the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Most people here don't see themselves as having any kind of power to change anything, so they just say fuck it and take the government BS as it comes. I don't think that makes them awful people, just disillusioned. Even most of the Bible thumpers you'll find here are generally well meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
you gots youself a job to do then, sonny
You and I disagree on a number of things, but you're too damn right here. Thanks for this post. Honestly, this is basically the case with most Southern states.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
Really? It clearly shows you understood what I was saying, and you slam me about this? Growing up in a expanding Spanish speaking region (south east Texas) basically made me take in another language. Is it necessary/mandatory? No, but its nice have if you hope to find a well paying job in the region. Are you capable of taking in 3 languages? Don't think so.Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Do you know me? Because I'm pretty sure I don't fucking know you. I visited the Huntsville penitentiary, along with who were then my high school senior colleagues. Why were we only able to interview fucked up individuals? I ask myself the same question.Quote:
why do you ask? i'm fairly fucking sure you haven't
Whichever language is spoken in Hungary isn't a real language anywhere but there
hth
Am I capable? Yes, Do I wish to on a daily basis? No.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
Machen Sie niemals Annahmen über Völker Bildungsniveau, werden Sie sich auf eine Überraschung, vor allem, wenn die Person, die Sie sind beleidigend hat jede Maßnahme, um ein genaues Bild von Ihrer Fähigkeit zu halten übernommen.
La plupart des écoles traditionnelles au Royaume-Uni ont un mandat pour l'enseignement des langues étrangères en place jusqu'Ã* ce les examens finaux juste avant de quitter l'école, ça a été un moment depuis que j'ai quitté l'école, mais la structure de base est toujours lÃ*.
I should be telling you the same exact thing.Quote:
Never make assumptions
I've watched your replies, I've not been making assumptions, I've been correlating what you've said to the most likely result.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
There's a difference young padawan and you would do well to learn the difference.
You still haven't found any way to refute how bad your opinions are on the death sentence other than you think tough luck to those unlucky to get the wrong end of the lethal stick.
The thing that saddens me about America is that, until recently, there was only one language to learn. And most Americans barely did that. I really didn't have a problem learning Spanish as a kid, but now that I'm in college I'm kind of like fuck that.
Not to play devils advocate, The whole purpose of the written and spoken word, is to convey an idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
As long as the idea is conveyed, the langauge used or the way it's presented is ultimately a moot point.
It's why we have different languages in the first place. Sow Grahma Nazis R SUPID.
Stop countering by sarcasm with legitimate points Bod!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodzilla
Just saiyain'
lol you seriously think you have to be some kind of special fucking snowflake because you can speak three languages? good work. isn't spanish like one of the easiest languages on earth to learn, too? and if your parents speak hungarian at home then it's really not impressive at all that you can speak thatQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
oh nice so they're actively trying to brainwash children into hating criminals and supporting the death penaltyQuote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
nice.
Why should my tax payer money go to feeding/rehabilitating violent murderers that show no remorse?
Fine, we disagree.
Lets move on to what this thread is about.
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Originally Posted by rossmum
Hating criminals based on vial action (rape/murder/etc) is not bad, but killing them because of hatred is stupid. What makes you any better than them?
If someone killed a person that was very close to me, then yeah, hating them and expressing emotion is not bad. Revenge will not do shit, it will not magically cancel out any of the emotional scarring that was done.
Hating is okay to my opinion because emotions make us human, its the actions of murder/revenge that are just animal properties that humanity should/should have evolved from.
Money should not be the determining factor when a human life (let it be bad or good) is at stake. Do you even pay taxes?Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
you realise those same people also paid their taxes.Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
Yes I do.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingFisher
are you literally fucking retarded or did you just not see the part about the death penalty actually costing more than keeping someone in prison for life (let alone rehabilitating them)Quote:
Originally Posted by arbiter901
no but you see that doesn't count because they are criminals, furthermore,Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
keep the death penalty, just add the option of a swift bullet to the headQuote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
what an incredible solution!
great solution!!!! thanks for This Good PostQuote:
Originally Posted by Higuy
nigga, I want to go out with style.
If you are going to kill me. Kill me with a 50 cal.
all fucking retardation aside, honestly, i think having your fucking head blown off by a 50.cal would be a better way to go.
i don't see how 'wait while you slowly die' can be considered humane, quite the opposite actually.
also, arbiter, after reading the last 5 pages of the horseshit you spilled out of your extra-chromosome-face, i can honestly say you're the new DUMBEST IGNORANT FUCKING MORON of the month.
holy shit nigger, there's a whole new level of fucking retard up in your cuntscab head.
i'm impressed.
Fucking impossible. Are you telling me the only way to impress you is to go full retard?Quote:
Originally Posted by neuro
I say we bring back exile.
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Originally Posted by EX12693
Thank You Man I Thought It Was aGood Post Too!!!11111e3r;wepgjo esr98s8juigQuote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Bind them and toss them in the river. If the river rejects them we know they are guilty and can burn them to death. If the river accepts them, they are innocent. Either way, all loose ends are tied up.
:v:
Plenty of easy ways to make the death penalty more cost effective, bullets being the first.
I heard rope wasn't that expensive either.
i'm glad you came in here to grace us with your caveman mindset and horrifically bad postingQuote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehob
Rossmum, I'm positive that was blatant sarcasm.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
Its all good bro, just leave him and his jimmies be.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
with his post history it is rather hard to tellQuote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
Your an idiot if you can't tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
You're*Quote:
Originally Posted by Higuy
I hate when that happens. Especially when you are calling the other person an idiot....So god damn embarrassing.Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
:mech:
Britain is for fags*Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Texas is for men*
Yes, let's all insult each other because failed trying to insult others and got called out.:allears:Quote:
Originally Posted by Higuy
Texas may be for men, England is for Gentlemen.
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Sadly in most parts of America, being a gentlemen won't get you women...Because they expect you to do it.Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Now, if you act like an asshole, you get women.
It's upsetting to see some of these smart and beautiful women go after the biggest bag of dicks America has to offer.
hey
a bag of dicks is actually pretty pleasant
Stop spreading lies.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingFisher
How can it be a lie when I didn't define a factual quantity? Just using college as my baseline. I should have stated "Most women from the ages 18-24."Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilation
Then again, who the fuck is looking for a serious relationship when your in that age category....
am 23, have a house that i bought and have owned for the last 2 years, been with my gf for 4 years,
and i'm a nice guy.
no you're not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bodzilla