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InnerGoat, would you be so kind as to post some pics of it in Windowed mode, showing off the crap that is the Luna theme? I needz moor pix
Ooh, and for proof purposes (not for me, for a non-believer), on top of the table in front of the inhibitor on the first SP map, facing the the gun rack in the back of the room. kthxbye
This is so frikking annoying! Why won't it run in XP?!?! It always crashes on the first loading screen!! I hate Vista and everything about it, Vista runs like crap, Halo 2 runs like crap...and everything else on Vista runs like crap. I wish I could figure out how to make this run on XP!!!! But it always crashes! :(
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Originally Posted by KIWIDOGGIE
well, if you weren't a warez whore, and actually payed for the game, those options would not be greyed out.
fool.
This is just pure awesomeness. Now I am going to buy Halo 2.
Also, I agree with Dane on calling this Halo 2 PC, since its working on linux, Mac, XP, and Vista.
Lawl.Quote:
Originally Posted by baturkin17
ITS CALLED A FUCKING BETA. THERE'S BOUND TO BE ISSUES.Quote:
Originally Posted by KIWIDOGGIE
Don't even get me started, this is doing what Microsoft claimed to be impossible. You're getting the ability to do it.
Also, Pirating is lame.
I'll get around to it tomorrow.. and luna theme? I'm missing something, or am tired and foregetting...Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralBacon
Also as a note to myself, open Rivatuner and check the video memory usage, as it doesn't work in Vista for whatever reason. :-3
hmm okay... halo 2 for XP on july -.-
W00t!? So sapien works as well!? This is fucking epictacular. Nuking lame ass vista ASAP! Now my computer will actually run good again with a semi descent OS and I can play Halo 2 on my PC. Plus most of my applications will work again. Sweet.
..eh? All of my apps work in vista no problem.. oo;Quote:
Originally Posted by jahrain
Yeah, Sapien and the works..work.
I can't seem to locate the saved games folder for my XP-patched version of Halo 2. I'm trying to copy my Vista saved games (conveniently found in User/Saved Games) but since I'm unable to see where the patched game stores this information I'm unable to replace it. Anyone found where saved games go?
Game freezes during initial launch/loading.
lewl
Oh my dear Lightning, of course the applications work just fine. You should read up on cognitive dissonance. In short, it is the theory that if new information is introduced that conflicts with information already believed to be true, the brain will seek out ways to resolve the "dissonance" between them, typically resulting in the newer information being nullified or modified to comfort the individual with the knowledge that they were not wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightning
You see, jahrain spent so much time telling everyone how slow, incompatible, and generally bad Windows Vista would be, that when it finally came out and proved to be the opposite of those defamations, his little brain just couldn't handle the disconfirmed expectancy. He was forced to deny or ignore all new information disproving his prior beliefs, thus strengthening his resolve to the point of relaying untrue information to others, so that he may not only take comfort in the "knowledge" that he was "right" all along, but so he may also feel validated by attempting to deceive others into his false ideas.
It is all okay though, Lightning. While there is nothing that can be done to help the individual (or rather, it is not our place to assume he wants help), we can deny his false claims whenever he chooses to propagate them, so that others will not face the mental discomfort of cognitive dissonance in the future.
Nick
Well, Nick, your forgetting the pure fact that Halo 2 Vista runs better on XP, despite a computer with Vista having much better hardware.
(see Dr's post a page or so back)
*edit* http://www.h2vista.net/forums/showpo...0&postcount=24
Now what exactly is that saying about the Vista OS?
No, hes "forgetting" that a part of H2V runs "better" on XP with emulated methods to get it to even run on XP. Yet it is also buggier thanks to said facts...Quote:
Originally Posted by Ð4ÑØ †
I think you people are just afraid of change, there is nothing drastically wrong with Vista. Nothing that can't be turned off at least. Maybe you all are just buying the wrong edition of Vista, like Ultimate, which is going to add TONS of overhead to your daily computing because a lot of those functionalities none of you need or use hardly at all.
with all that aside, that "fact" wouldn't be "pure".
that the goat needs a better setupQuote:
Originally Posted by Ð4ÑØ †
I don't suppose anybody knows how to *uninstall* Halo 2 on XP?
I forgot to select full install, so I'm left with a botched copy I can't do anything with really.
The uninstall in add/remove doesn't do anything, and although I manually removed all registry keys related to H2 I could find, I'm not able to access the install options menu.
Damnit, maybe I should have stuck to playing on Vista! ;)
Any help is appreciated! :)
Um... Ignore nick, he has no idea wtf he is talking about. My nero 6 won't work, partition magic 8 wont work, visual studio 2005 won't work (says it requires a +450 mb download, fuck that), Alcohol 120 wont work, mathcad won't work, 3ds max gives problems (even with opengl viewport rendering) and AutoCAD won't work. I can list various other software that gives problems, but I have found ways to ignore them. And I don't plan on buying new versions of the listed software any time soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lightning
Nero and VS05 (even without the service pack) work just fine on my machine, and you probably didn'tpirateget the partition magic optimized for Vista.
:O Your using nero 6 right? What did you do? I tried installing the 6.6.x update for nero, and It still won't work. It installs, but keeps crashing for some random reason when I try to start a new project. As for visual studio, I been just too lazy to leave my laptop on for so long to finish a +400 mb download. How did you get it to work without it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
eh, just tried it on my laptop. Too bad it doesn't support the WXGA 1280x800 resolution, but it looks just like the xbox version at 1024x768 on low, 40 fps. I don't need to use windowed mode because Nvidia cards have a "maintain aspect ratio" setting if an image is stretched on a widescreen monitor.
Sadly I've been using the touch pad of the laptop for the first round through (shut up I only have one mouse and my desktop uses that) but I didn't really feel any lag.
The Luna theme is the standard blue "XP theme" that I personally believe looks like crap. Royale / Zune will do as well if you have them.Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
Though, actually, I sent said "non-believer" the files and he ran it.
He's been one of the few people that got worse performance on XP.
I can't wait to do it myself, but I need the game first.
...exact same here, well, sans Nero.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
I use ISOburn :P, Way to lazy too get Nero.
Nero 7 is also made for Vista.
i think in My Games folder, hey are you the same YCH from FM forums??:)Quote:
Originally Posted by YCH
What's all this crap about different Windows themes like Luna and stuff?? I must be behind too, because I don't know what the big deal is.
Or owning legal copies in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by jahrain
Just about everything you listed has a free update (at the very least, for paying customers) that assists in Vista compatibility; if you choose not to or cannot find the means to download the updates, that is your fault. However, the only application I ever had friction with was Nero; all the rest I could install without updating, though they did not all work perfectly due to poor development practices (that are typically corrected via ... the updates).
So yeah jahrain, keep resolving that dissonance, but keep it to yourself. No need to spread lies around the forums just because you are mentally incapable of making something work that works fine for numerous other people.
Nick
die.
EAX!
How about you JMP out of my life
and leave my pancake title alone you NOP
or else I'm going to POP something
I wish I would be a mod so I could PUSH you away :lol:
Hmm.. did someone change the thread title?
Oh. I use the Zune theme where I can, but thats good to hear. I'm going to install it to my main PC now and see what its like.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdmiralBacon
Oh, no, lol. My vista rig blows the shit out of the second pc. I'm just surprised to see it playing so well is all. I'll do a better comparision with my main PC's XP install to its Vista install later, as its the same hardware this time. :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Ð4ÑØ †
mmm, pancakes
you guys remember when ennui switched all those word filters around at GBX?
Thats what i thought was happening. I just had posted 'XP' to see if it had changed and nothing happened so i edited my post :XQuote:
Originally Posted by Conscars
I totally remember that. Those were good times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Conscars
Dude, there'serrorspineapples in mymappancake!
lol, tpineappleistsQuote:
Originally Posted by teh lag
I'm rootin' for XP, but Vista's amazed me before (when I installed 3ds Max and it worked, for example)Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
Hmm..
We have H2 working on XP... Pancakes may be the next step...
I'm gonna make some pancakes and see if I can get run Sapien on them... Might need some new syrup compatibility files though...
Is it just me, or did that post above just make me laugh? I think someone switched word filters again.
No, someone just changed the topic title to "H2V on Pancakes", no one changed the word filters.Quote:
Originally Posted by FlamingRain
What?? H2V on Pancakes O_o!!!
I like pancakes, and Halo 2. Maybe we should try to make a Pancake emulator for Vista.
We'll call it H2P!!!
And you'll be able to shoot syrup out of the Gauss hog!
http://www.h2vista.net/innergoat/stu...P_vs_Vista.png
http://www.h2vista.net/innergoat/stu...P_vs_Vista.png
http://www.h2vista.net/innergoat/stu...u/hatesmal.gif
That's from the first cutscenes on cairo station, trying to start and stop it as close as possible (which I did).
Also, H2V averages around 288 megs worth of video memory when at 1680x1050 on high. Turn on 4xAA, 322mb. Peak I saw was loading the next map's cutscene, over 420mb.
Do those of you with 256mb cards get stutter in the cutscenes? Might be the reason...
Well, after reinstalling SP2 several times trying to sort things out (I didn't have SP2 previous to this, and it's required) I can't even access the install menu (files may be missing or damaged or whatever), I've given up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mantis
24 hours of trying and not getting past the first menu, and now not being able to launch the installer.
Epic fail. =(
*deletes SP2*
Those pics have Photoshop CS2 tags in them (open them in notepad and skim through the code). This makes me extremely doubtful.
because he photoshopped the 2 images together.....
Yeah, it totally makes sense to Photoshop some Excel documents to trick you ... instead of just modifying the Excel document directly before taking a screenshot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
Wow.
Nick
I opened two documents and put one under the other and printscreen'd. D:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ð4ÑØ †
FRAPS spits out its results into Excel files. Surely you knew that, Freelancer.
....yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
because it has SO much meaning to photoshop...an XML screencap.
rofl its faster to run h2v in vista than xp.
dam emulators.
NaW DAwG, Ain'T CHU HERD? WiNBl0wZ Vi$$$Ta lAGs, iT SUx. XP IS Da B0mB, CePT dAT $h1Ty M$$$ mAkE IT.Quote:
Originally Posted by the1
:lmao:
wow, you got Nick to actually spend time thinking out how to write that when he could have been working on Prom.
TrueQuote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
Yeah, I have to admit, I spent ten minutes trying to write that last post.
Damn.
Nick
I am no expert but I think your syntax was off a bit :) I used the Leet Speak translator and got something different. Never go gaming without it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nick
I prefer Leet Key as it is an extension for Firefox. Not only does it enable one to understand noobs and prepubescent forum-goers, but will also aid in the translating of more complex encryptions, such as standard binary and hex.Quote:
Originally Posted by UXB
I can read that shit without needing a decryption key, and almost as fast as I read standard English :saddowns:
Oh also, all the cool people run highly demanding modern games through OS emulation, because that doesn't lag so bad you want to stab your eyes out.Quote:
Originally Posted by the1
Small update on XP.Quote:
Originally Posted by InnerGoat
Went through the same level again at 1920x1200 with 4xAA trying to see how much video memory I can use up. Used up the 512MB on the card, and 60MB or so overflowed into system memory. Oh and it was definatly faster than Vista this time. I'm talking more then "barely playable". :D
Seems to me it is not illegal in any way to install the game you legally bought on a computer. If you manage to hack it into running on XP... and you own a copy, people have been doing this for years on linux and mac... and in IT industry "patching together" legacy apps to run on new OS, funny how people who don't understand it seem to make a stink about it.
Anyhow... I tried out the current loader and it works fine for single player .... just can not seem to get to the spot where it will allow activation. I recall the developer saying this was an issue in another post but reading this I've seen people who claim to have it activated legally for live play... if so, how ?
Installed it on my workstation, Opty 170 @ 2.4 2gb ram, ATI X850XT no OC ... and I'm getting better performance @ 1024x768 on XP with setting high than on my gaming rig (E6600 @ 3.0ghz, 2gb ddr1066, ati 1900xt) on vista.... did not want to try the load on my main sys hehe. Anyway this screen to help convince any more naysayers and its running windowed mode 800x600 just to fit in the screenshot.
http://binaryfly.com/halo2onxp.PNG
I said from an illegal source...want to have a direct link from a site full of warez?
and you are kinda behind since the developer has already posted his "progress" on this site.
Fact: It is not illegal to make software you purchased and retain a valid license for run on an device or operating system that is also rightfully yours to use. Such effort (called interoperability) is covered under Fair Use, within international and U.S. copyright law.
Fact: It is illegal to distribute copyrighted binaries (modified or not) without the permission of the copyright holder.
What does that boil down to? Yeah, you can modify the game however you please, as long as you're the one who modifies the files to make it work. You do not have the inherent right to obtain pre-modified files that will achieve that goal. The workaround to that is for someone to create a program that will modify or patch the original files that reside on your machine, then you run the application on them and you're legally in the clear.
Oh and you can expect to probably never play multiplayer that requires you log into LIVE from XP. Besides the fact that Microsoft could check the OS and reject authentication if they wished to (it is their legal right), the fact that you are modifying files to make Halo 2 run on XP means that the digital signatures of those files are rendered invalid and the LIVE service checks those signatures upon every connection.
Nick
Hey Nick,
I was just wondering, would it be illegal to share the knowledge of this software that runs H2V on XP if just the knowledge and a bit of how to was shared? Such as giving source code references.
I mean, if you own Vista and it's material, and you have code that was created by a friend that doesn't contain illegally redsitributed software. Then does that mean you can have a legal way of using H2V on XP?
Well, basically:
If you own XP, H2V and Vista; then you create the program to run H2V on XP yourself, is that illegal?
People can distribute the information on how to achieve compatibility, as long as it does not contain copyrighted material. So, an application that patched the binaries on your machine, along with instructions on how to use the problem, is fine; being sent the actual binaries (modified or not) is not fine.
To be honest, though, this is all really just technicalities - almost never acted on, but can be acted on if the copyright holder gets angry enough over what is being done. Technically, putting up a Halo 1 Xbox mod is copyright infringement, because people are distributing copyrighted material (tags for Bungie assets) as part of their own work; however, Microsoft never has and probably never will act on this, because they allow map creation on the PC.
Nick