'shtf brown' is a better colour match for actual flat dark earth than what the tactical crowd calls 'flat dark earth'
i am, of course, saying the raf definition is the correct one because they had it first (and also are cooler)
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'shtf brown' is a better colour match for actual flat dark earth than what the tactical crowd calls 'flat dark earth'
i am, of course, saying the raf definition is the correct one because they had it first (and also are cooler)
Every FDE I've ever seen has looked closed to what's listed there than SHTF Brown.
So it looks like the people who control surplus stocks in Russia are starting to realize that the import restrictions between the USA and Russia regarding firearms and surplus ammunition no longer exist. AIMSurplus has just started selling Star Model Bs that I am led to believe are coming from Russian capture stockpiles, and Russian 7.62x54R in 300rd cans. Now, a few of you may say that they are already importing "Russian" 7.62x54R in 440rd spam cans, but that ammo actually all comes from the Ukraine. The different size in cans leads me to believe these are actually coming from Russia. Also, this ammo comes preloaded on stripper clips, so the 23 cents/round is worth it since stripper clips are reusuable.
The real indicator that this is actually happening, however, is when newly-made Russian handguns and Russian surplus 7.62x39mm start getting imported.
That is because Americans are idiots and just couldn't resist fucking up.
http://www.revell.hu/email_color/321...att_RAF_ES.jpg
That is Flat Dark Earth. You'd have a seen a lot of it in southern England in 1940, it was the second colour of the camouflage scheme used on RAF day fighters until mid-late 1941, and on RAF bombers throughout the war.
The shit that Real Tactical Operators™ call FDE looks like a midpoint between beige and baby shit yellow.
Then I'm just assuming, like everything, the naming has evolved to make room for more variation in colors. We have SHTF Brown now, which is basically the same thing it's just called something else.
Who gives a fuck, it's a color.
Also, can someone remind me why someone thought clips were a good idea when you already had rifles with removable magazines? It's slower than just swapping out to a new magazine, and it strikes me as something you'd only want to use when magazines weren't available.
Are we referring to the surplus 7.62x54r? That stuff is WWII-era Type L and was mainly being fed to 91/30s and SVTs. The SVT was issued with two serialled mags. Most reloading was done via clips.
They are cheap. They are also used to loading those removable magazines quickly. Guns with non-removable magazines are less complex, and early on officers were afraid that if soldiers had removable magazines they'd be wasting ammo.
Also, every time I see "SHTF" I read it as "Shit Fuck."
Isn't it like Shit Hits the Fan or something fucking stupid like that?
I just see "shit brown" I'd still take current FDE over a poo colored rifle.