Shotguns are still way to OP in BC2. If I play with a shotgun+slugs+mag ammo I completely dominate the server. Top 5 players guaranteed.
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Shotguns are still way to OP in BC2. If I play with a shotgun+slugs+mag ammo I completely dominate the server. Top 5 players guaranteed.
Not really. I can get top 5 without killing a single player; score is all about how useful you are to the team. Shotgun + slugs is only really good in those close maps because it drops like a bitch on bigger maps. I shoot slug users down with the M1 with ease because in the time it takes them to fire and cycle, I can get off four to five rounds. Using a Saiga or USAS12 has no benefit over the M1 or M14, so using that combo is asinine.
Anybody who is a good shot can shit all over slug users, irregardless of weapon choice (except maybe with the SCAR and AKS74U...those guns suck). Slugs are great only if you get the drop, and most people who use slugs just camp.
No, shotguns are best used as scatterguns with magnum ammo. In Arica Harbour, you can counter 90% of all situations with that combination. Use a Rex or an M1911 to counter the rest. As a medic, I usually use a shotgun because it allows me to drop a target in one hit so I can get to healing faster. If I know I need range, I'll use the M1.
Slugs? Bah, you get more reliability with the M14. And you free up a perk.
Slugs + Mag ammo on the 870 Combat get you 1 hit kills at about 50 yards, anything else will be 2 hit kills, and your accuracy with that combo is like a laser so it's insanely easy. You can still be out ranged, that's for sure. Even though you can get 2 hit kills, once they're past the range where your crosshairs obscure them completely with the shotgun you're pretty much relying on luck to hit 'em. On maps where I'm engaging at those ranges I'll almost always just go to M14 or whatever I feel like using at the time that isn't a shotgun.
Can't tell you how many M14 scrubs I've completely raped on Harvest Day Rush while rocking an 870 Combat. It's all about moving around constantly and getting in close to them. It's surprisingly easy to do on that map.
Slugs used to be amazing because they were as accurate as tracer darts, just faster. Not sure if they still are though.
Well, M14 scrubs, yeah. But I assure you that any M14 scrub isn't going to be able to use slugs at a decent level either, so the comparison is useless due to the already wide skill gap.
Besides, real men use the M1 anyways; magnified scopes are for wimps. :v:
I use slugs for the lulz every now and then, but they aren't worth the slow rate of fire. You might as well try to use a sniper rifle at point blank. If you want one-hit kills, better to use an M95 with a red dot. At least it will always be a one-hit kill regardless of range.
Use the M14 without optics then. I was happy when they brought that in with the last patch, but then I started using the ACOG on it and hated it. The Red Chevron doesn't feel as accurate at the iron sights, but the iron sights are chunky as fuck on this gun. The M1 is nice, but with the M14 having 2 more rounds for just a small amount more of recoil, I wouldn't take the M1 into close combat.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
I love the M1 for close combat. I don't even have to scope in with the irons for half of the kills. The M14 just feels wrong even on irons. With a scope on, it feels like extra tunnel vision beyond what it should be.
I don't know, I guess I just have too much practise invested in the M1 to jump over to the M14. I just find the handling on the former to be far superior.
I use the M14 because it has more rounds and a faster reload time. I almost never use the acog or the red dot with it, since it's basically my engineer kit weapon, and I play with exp+ all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw