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China isn't allowed to import magazines into the US anymore after the ATF sting in 1996. Also the Thermold is marked "made in the USA."Quote:
Originally Posted by Zeph
Besides, every single Chinese magazine I've ever used has been really high quality. The Chinese don't fuck around with guns. All of the shitty magazines I've dealt with have been exclusively American-made.
A well-built plastic magazine can last a very long time. See: Bulgarian Circle 10 magazines.
Yeah, Zeph, most of the rubbish parts I have ever seen or heard of originated in the Good Old USA
I ordered a East German AK stock set, one of the only ones northridge had and I got it in today and I am impressed. The buttstock is a virgin thou so. And speaking of Chinese mags how much would they go for? $15 for a 30 rounder
$15 for a 30-round Chinese magazine is a good price these days, provided the magazine is in good shape. They'll last forever and I prefer them over European steel magazines because they don't have a rib on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spartan094
Edit: AK-47 MAGAZINE GUIDE!!!!!!!
BUY:
Chinese steel magazines. These mags are great and in my opinion the best AK mags out there. Only problem is they're usually $20-$30 nowadays when 20 years ago they were $3, and you have competition from AK owners in New York who need preban high-cap magazines.
European surplus steel magazines (Polish, Bulgarian, Romanian, Yugoslavian). Regardless of outside condition, if you buy these from a reputable retailer, they will all work great. You can find these anywhere from $10-$30, depending on condition and country of manufacture. Yugo magazines have a last round bolt hold open feature that none of the other European magazines have, but they've really gone up in price lately.
Surplus polymer magazines. Usually made of bakelite, these magazines have steel reinforcements on the high-wear areas and have just as much durability as steel magazines. They do cost more, with the most common, Circle 10 mags, going for around $30. Surplus polymer magazines can cost as much as $100, and at that point it's more about aesthetics and collectability than shootability.
US PALM AK30 polymer magazines. This is the ONLY US-made AK magazine that I can recommend. These are made of thick, lightweight polymer with steel reinforcements on the high-stress areas. They provide 3 922(r) compliance parts and cost about $30 each.
Chinese and Romanian drums. There are 2 main types of AK drums, top-loaders and rear-loaders. The Chinese and new-production Romanian drums are rear-loaders, and surplus Romanian (and Russian, but those are really expensive) drums are top-loading. A surplus top-loading Romanian drum will cost about $90, and a new rear-loading Romanian drum will cost about $100. Rear-loading drums are ridiculously easy to load, and you can leave them loaded but unwound so you don't cause a loss of spring tension. Chinese drums nowadays are $150-$200. You shouldn't pay any more for a Chinese AK drum, but the VERY small numbers of Chinese AR-15 drums go for around $400. Top-loading Romanian drums are SLIGHTLY cheaper than their rear-loading counterparts, but it's a pain in the ass to load those 75 rounds one by one.
DO NOT BUY:
Tapco magazines. All plastic, sometimes too thick for AKs with tight magwells, break easily. Stay away.
Korean magazines. Weak springs cause feeding issues. Stay away from the $75ish Korean drums as well for the same reason. The only good Korean magazines out there are for the MP5 and M1 carbine. Everything else is junk.
USA Mag magazines. Same issues as the Korean magazines.
Master Molder magazines. All plastic, will not fit all AKs without fitting, magazine just feels like it would break easily. A properly-made polymer magazine should not bend when you squeeze on it while it's empty.
As far as buying mags goes, JG Sales has a wide selection of AK magazines at pretty good prices. APEX Gun Parts has surplus Romanian drums in stock if you like the look of a top-loading magazine. AIM Surplus also has some of the best deals on AK magazines but they usually sell out really quickly on the less expensive ones.
IDK man, I have seen some dogs of Chink SKS' in my day, even brand new.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmzee
As far as American parts, yeah, aftermarket USA made sucks fucking giant dick.
There is no way any Chinese SKS that hasn't been fucked with post-production is anything but a fantastic rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
It must have gotten fucked on the ship, but it had canted sights and sever cracks all along the stock. My uncle bought it brand new in 1991, and everytime I have seen it I have somewhat thrown up in my mouth.
While we're at this, what's your opinion on the converted Saigas?Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmzee
It almost certainly got fucked.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
As for canted sights... depends which it was. Front sights? No problem, just knock the post over some. My 91/30's entire barrel is canted about 2-3 degrees right - just enough to notice if you really look at it from the muzzle end - and the scope I have is about the same amount left, while the witness mark is still lined up on the mount, meaning the rifle it came from had a left-canted barrel.
In the case of 91/30 snipers, a canted barrel doesn't affect accuracy much at all. As long as the scope is canted to the same angle, causing the shooter to automatically want to hold the rifle so the barrel is 'vertical', it will shoot just as straight.
e/ In fact, any rifle where both sets of sights are on the barrel will not have canting issues. Obviously, though, this falls down with things like AKs where that is not the case.
Depends on who does the conversion. Arsenals are some of the best AKs out there today, and even the Century conversions are fine (even if they're only half-converted and still have the factory sporter handguards on them). If a competent gunsmith does the conversion, and installs a bullet guide for 7.62x39 rifles so they can accept AK mags, a converted Saiga is a great gun.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
Hell, you can even convert them yourself, with a dremel tool and a bit of mechanical ability. It's only about 2 hours of your life.
I know a guy who bought a WASR 10/63, and the front sight was canted to the left, and the rear sight was also canted, but to the right. He was more accurate pointing and shooting than actually aiming down the sights.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
My virgin East German AK buttstock is giving me a headache, esp to find the right hardware for it. There is no visible way a metal buttplate could attach/screw into it, it's like a empty hollow shell, urgh. But other then that the pistol grip and front handguards fit in nicely and me likey. Now I just hate the parkerized finish since it looks to dull/gray.
AIM Surplus has Chinese Type 53s in stock for $120 each. They're in "fair to good" condition, and will probably make fine shooters. I doubt these will ever be this cheap ever again.
Everything pictured, $200. I think I HAVE to get it. This is a ridiculously good deal.
Hi-Point 995 carbine with ATI stock + sling, BSA red dot, compensator, and 3 10-round magazines.
What caliber? 45?
It's a 995, which means 9mm. If it were .45 ACP it would be a 4595.
I always knew the 91/30 PU was a good system, but reading posts from much more talented shooters than myself as to its true potential owns.
Remember that one idiot Youtuber I was arguing with? "Russian junk" indeed. Enjoy your $15k+ space Mauser, nerd.Quote:
Up until I bought one of the AIM Molot PU sniper rifles, my outlook was the PU was really a dedicated marksman type rifle and probably accurate enough out to 600 yds / meters. I have changed my mind now that I took it out to 1000 yds. For sniping purposes, it can be deadly across the course. I hope that does not offend anyone here with superior more modern systems but those systems were out there at 800,900 and 1000 yds and so was my lowly PU sniper and we all were in the black, in the 9 and 10 ring at times . Your human errors and winds will be a dynamic to master with the PU but it can be done. 600 yds: piece of cake to compete one on one against modern systems.
My rifle is a Izhevsk 1943, Progress scope (yellow hue but optics fine), mint (and truly mint) bore, refurb blue job as usual and what I consider the average Molot grade finish to the wood but stock is bedded right for the rifles accuracy. Its not the beauty queen some folks got from AIM but its metal and wood are 110% and it shoots / drills holes with accuracy.
I shot this PU sniper at 100, 300, 600, 800, 900 and 1000 yds. Once you got the load and scope data sorted out and it will put rounds into that 9 and 10 ring on a F class NRA target at 800, 900 and 1000 yds. Winds...they play with you hard at these ranges but you can hold front sight post into the wind and push rounds back on line..if your winds fluctuate, you got your work cut out. At the 300 and 600 yd distance, the rifle shines and is easy to shoot very very accurately. If you practice and have your load down right, 300 and 600 yd vintage sniper matches are no problem whatsoever. I was using the 300 yd SR3 NRA bull for 100 to 600 yd validation of loads and my rifle. 800 to 1000yds, F Class NRA bull was used for validation of loads and rifle.
My lessons learned with some hard knocks along the way all center on the 100 yd zero. I kept on reading concerns about not having enough elevation on the PU scope for long distance work so my 100 yd zero was with a 3 inch high bullet strike above point of aim with PU scope set at 0 elevation, 0 windage.
It was a PITA solution that worked but drove me nuts on Saturday. At 100yds, my hand loads shot 3 inch high as expected (no problem), At 300 yds, my scope was still at 0 elevation 0 windage and shooting point of aim to point of impact, at 600 yds with my elevation on drum 300 setting , 0 windage and rifle is shooting point of aim to point of impact. Clearly drum readings are not remotely close to the distance I am shooting. The 3 inch high at 100 yd zero is skewing things off for drum readings.
Day 1 , Saturday, we left 600 yd line and went to 1000 yds (the 338Lapua Mafia crew voted this and I had no choice... what now do I put on the scope as I have not shot 800, 900 yds yet with it so I am flying in blind here). Swag of 700 and 900 setting on drum and all shots fired at 1000 yds missed the target. Am I over or under? Shooting day was over so I mulled on this mystery.
On Day 2, Sunday,the F class non sanctioned match was happening and we started on the 800 yd line and would move and shoot 900 and 1000 yds. With spotters shot, my drum results for elevation at 800 yards ended up with a setting of 6, drum results for elevation at 900 yds was 7.5 and 1000 yds was 8.5 on the drum. Had I not factored that 3 inch high at 100 yd for zero, I would have drum
settings a bit more aligned with distance I am shooting.. or close to it.
Saturday and Sunday were the 2nd and 3rd time I ever shot at 1000 yds and the first times ever with my PU sniper. I am 65 next month so I am well onto the down hill slope. I say this to make a point: There is no magic with 1000 yds.. you just get the load sorted out, zero your rifle at 100 yd and head down range and kick the can hard. I got tons to learn about winds and mirage but I know my rifle and load will hang to 1000 yds and I can too. I am heading out every time I can to shoot long distances. I hope my experience will convince others to do so and to have a healthy respect for the PU sniper rifles capabilities.
Lol@handloads
Some guys are getting MOA or just over with light ball, most are getting MOA or under with the 'Extra' target/match ammo (200gr lead core, much broader bearing surface, brass cased). It's really interesting to see how each rifle differs... some like full-barrel wraparound shims, some like to be floated for most of the barrel length by shimming at the shank, some are fine as they are...
Hi guys, kill me please
http://i166.photobucket.com/albums/u...-32-42_911.jpg
"Brought to you buy AR-15.com"
http://www.ar15.com/forums/t_6_14/37...ockweasle.html
It may be rewelded together from two 91/30 receivers but, damn
ugh
i'd be down with turning an already fucked mosin into a proper obrez, but that's retarded and gross
You might as well use a goddamn zip gun.
The way they did it they didn't have to fill out any NFA paperwork since they just constructed it as a pistol, so it's easy to see why the guy built it the way he did.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
But the two receivers were originally rifles I would assume, so doesn't that still put him afoul of the SBR laws?
If they were imported as just receivers, no. The NFA is weird.
You will not be prepared for 0:40.
hahaha holy shit, i would not want to piss that man off
Just picked this up for $200.
Compared to the most compact firearm I own, the Mini-14 with factory folding stock:
So it's pretty compact.
First thoughts:
1. Gun is heavy as fuck. Easily 7.5 pounds, almost as much as my SKS.
2. Gun is pretty well balanced so the weight isn't as noticeable.
3. Stock is pretty comfortable, and the length of pull is short but manageable.
4. Trigger isn't comfortable, will begin looking for a replacement.
5. Battery in the red dot is dead so I have to buy a new one.
6. I can easily use the forward sling attachment as a foregrip.
7. I need more magazines.
Hoping to get some shooting in over the coming week or so, and try out the new bolt body for the 91/30. Need to find someone I can trust to not fuck up the D&T too. You'd think they couldn't possibly, I mean the fucking screws are still there so you can see where to drill, but I wouldn't put anything past gunsmiths around here. Most of them see a military rifle and their first thought is how to 'improve' it.
Back in the day of mail-order gun catalogs in the USA and Canada, many surplus long guns were advertised as "great for hunters!" or "great to sporterize!" leading to (especially in Canada) a large number of surplus guns in circulation in the country being sporterized in some way.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
When you can buy an Enfield for $19.95, why not sporterize it?
Yeah, I can actually understand it immediately postwar through to the 60s, even. Past that it's just stupid and actually not really economically viable compared to purpose-built sporting rifles.
New family photo.
Hurry up and get a pre-1950 Soviet SKS.
Paypal me $450 so I can afford it and I'll do it.
lol.
Nice collection Emmzee. Wish I took a family photo before I moved >_<. Now I only have my AR, M44, and 9mm out here :( Gonna be a while until I can get everything together
What happens when an Armenian with no previous firearms experience designs a shotgun?
The only way is downhill, folks!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eVvxd0z6cQ
I want one of these things so bad, just for the comedy value.
It looks so much like everyone's "first m16 model!"
Emmzee and I were discussing comparative pricing between Australia and the US, and he linked me to AIM's 91/30 page.
I did a double-take when I expanded the photos. My rifle is a 1944 Izhevsk ex-PU, CT 3809, went through the refurb facility whose stamp is a boxed П, and bore Progress PU Б-143713. That one is 1944 Izhevsk ex-PU CT 1116, went through the same refurb facility, bore Progress PU Б-147(87?)9. Small world.
I wonder when they were separated, since my rifle either never came through the US, or did so pre-'68 then came straight here.
I don't think any Mosins made outside of the United States, aside from war bringbacks, came through the USA before 1996.
Hellbent on a Stirling-made AR-180. One day. One day it will be mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tGgD8TmI96o
e/ here's more info on that clusterfuck of a shotgun.
http://i.imgur.com/WzcrG.jpg
New AR-15 stock that's being marketed as a "survival" stock. It holds a 10-round magazine flush with the rest of the stock. I wonder how unwieldy a C-Mag would be...
Went and shot about 30 shot shells yesterday with a friend on Larch Mountain
Shot 50 rounds of 10mm and about 700 .22 LR
Nice relaxing day, but we left before really getting into the shotgun shooting. You know it's hot in Oregon when the Coastal mountains are in the 90 area.
90 degrees isn't hot, you pussy.
It is here in the north.
http://withfriendship.com/images/h/3...R-18-image.jpg
hnggggghghfdsf
I did a bit of research into Russia joining the WTO in December 2011. When a country joins the WTO, it has to get rid of all voluntary trade restrictions with member nations. However, it is not immediate. They just have to phase them out over a 4-year period. So in a couple years we should start to see Russian arms be imported that haven't been imported since 1998.
:D :D :D
Canadian-made EM-2.
A guy in TFR would've been the proud owner if he'd known what it was and had some spare cash at the time. I would kill for the opportunity to own one of these.
Those things have the weirdest iron sight design ever.
That's because it's not an iron sight. It's a low-magnification optic, with flip-up irons as a backup. As far as I'm aware, it was the first standard integrated optical sight on an accepted military weapon (the EM-2 was accepted into service as the Rifle, Automatic, No. 9 Mk.1 before it was cancelled 50-some rifles into production).
e/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wdhN5_RpX4
I was referring to the Iron Sight, not the scope. I can tell the difference, dogg.
omgQuote:
If you are receiving this notice, your receiver has shipped and should be to your FFL by Wednesday August 22nd if not sooner.
The sights aren't really that unusual though? They're simple flip-ups, same as any modern set of BUIS, and they're offset, same as guns like the Bren or Owen.
I've been thinking of putting money down on getting a PU 91/30 Sniper from AIM or so. I might just sell off the WASR to a dumb friend I have for big money since I have a complete E. German stock set on it, if not to him I'll price it accordingly and try to sell it somewhere locally.
Do it.
Bisected 7.62x54r ShKAS machine gun round. Exploding bullet (PZ type). Re: my earlier jest about 'fun times'; if you ever find ShKAS ammo (large 'Ш' headstamp, primer is completely lacquered red, bullets often have red/black tips for AP, explosive, incendiary but also come in unpainted ball), DO NOT FIRE IT FROM ANYTHING THAT IS NOT A ShKAS MACHINE GUN. Do not fire PZ rounds, period.
I'm pretty sure I can fire whatever I like here in Mericuh
I actually wish those people would follow through on that. The sacrifice of that many Mosins would be a tragic, yet necessary, one. The world would be improved immeasurably.
So even if I pulled the bullet and did one reloaded 7.62x54r using the ShKAS bullet...is it still bad eh?
If it's PZ? Yes. Internally primed, 70-year-old unstable explosives are not something you want to fuck with. AP/ball? Not so sure, but I wouldn't really be inclined to try it.
Do it you won't. (Disclaimer: Don't do it)
Also it's official guys:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19345844
im jerking off
YES
CHEAP SKS FOR EVERYONE!!!!!
t3h s3hx
Fuck You And Die.
Well, I don't personally own this but I'll be using it for the next 3 months
Yeah, I'm going to keep re-using this joke.
Well fuck, the adjustable rear sight on my grandpa's Safari Arms Black Widow 1911 pistol is um, well needs a replacement, mostly the adjustable sight since the nut holding the screw in broke and some other little piece went flying off, I am not happy. I feel like I'm SoL cause I cant find any spare parts on the internet or anywhere.
I'd assume an adjustable 1911 rear sight wouldn't be that hard to find. 1911 parts are everywhere.
Pretty awesome
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=4e7_1346280929
9mm?
Yeah, Colt DOE upper on a registered SBR lower. The DOE is a work of art. Too bad repro uppers (without BCG/charging handle) are close to a thousand dollars on Gunbroker, and genuine Colts are even more expensive.
I've seen lots of regular length ones around. Any of these any good?Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmzee
Even the repro DOE uppers, provided you get a BCG that isn't shit, are good to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
Personally, I think it's hideous. It works, it's functional, and I like that, but I'll take basically any other 9mm SMG/carbine over that, thank you.
I just realized you're talking about 9mm uppers in general. 9mm uppers from reputable companies are all good to go; Vulcan 9mm uppers and the like obviously aren't. However, there are a few things to keep in mind when buying a 9mm AR-15, and those are what kind of magazine it uses. There are 3 main variations that you'll encounter on the market, and those are Colt, Sten, and Uzi magazines. Colt magazines are the most common type, and they use the Colt 9mm SMG magazines which are plentiful. Uzi magazine variations are the least common of the three and use modified Uzi magazines. Sten magazine variations became really popular during the AWB when the price of most preban high-cap mags was through the roof. However, since hardly anybody used Stens, preban surplus Sten mags were dirt cheap, usually around $15. They don't make a lot Sten magazine 9mm uppers anymore, but these use modified Sten mags.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
Colt magazines are definitely the way to go.
FUCK
Dude wat
Holy shit.
Incorrect opinion; DOE carbines are adorable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Here's a thing I posted on TFR.
Put about 200rds LR through it over the last few days, turns out it holds 17. 17 LR means 25 Short. Time to buy some Shorts! :iamafag:Quote:
When my dad brought his hunting rifle out from Canada, he also brought out a pair of little old .22s. One is a single shot with a little 4x scope and was claimed by my sister. I think it's a Lithgow Slazenger, but I can't remember offhand. The other is this:
http://i.imgur.com/CIfgrl.jpg
It's a BSA Sportsman Fifteen. BSA is Birmingham Small Arms for any who don't know, they made bicycles and motorbikes as well as guns (and probably more besides). I don't know how old it is, but I do know my grandfather owned it and my mother learned to shoot on it. Regardless of age it's in really nice condition. It's a cock-on-close action, and the spring in it is really beefy so it takes some effort to cycle, but it locks up nice and tight and otherwise is pretty unremarkable, I guess. It also has a pretty heavy barrel on it, with lots of nice stamps and proofmarks:
http://i.imgur.com/UWvkjl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/jaHUgl.jpg
It's a tube-fed rifle. I don't know how many shots it actually holds (I've never bothered to count, too busy shooting), but it's quite a few. The tube loads in a fairly bizarre way, through a little .22lr-shaped port in the bottom front. To open it, you have to twist the endcap a half-turn left, then pull it free. It's attached to a long sleeve which sits inside the magazine and also houses the plunger and spring.
http://i.imgur.com/ov0Qvl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/O7ScWl.jpg
The stock (which looks really, really nice for its age, and is nice and light) has a big BSA cartouche on the left side.
http://i.imgur.com/3Ap5Kl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/wu41Cl.jpg
I'm not sure what these rifles carried for sights originally, but there is a dovetail about halfway along its length. This one has something a little classier than most plinking rifles I've seen, I'd have to say.
http://i.imgur.com/qZLqzl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/4fJLcl.jpg
Safety is, as can plainly be seen, a simple matter of twisting the cocking piece. The word 'SAFE' sits level when the safety is engaged. This locks the trigger but the bolt can still be opened. Apparently this concept is beyond Australian Customs, who felt the need to drill sizeable divots in the rear of the bolt and the cocking piece and then put red paint in them so us retards could tell when our rifle was cocked, off safe, and ready to fire. Thanks, Customs! :downs:
Anyway, the rifle is nice to shoot and pretty deadly. I'm crap with any manner of ironsights, but once I find the sweet spot I can nail a little 2" swinging plate with it pretty easily out to about 40 yards, which is probably not that impressive but is a start for someone who learned to shoot on scopes. Between getting a chance to spend some real quality time with this lil' guy and getting my Enfield's front sight adjusted properly after three years of shooting about three miles to the right of whatever I'm aiming at, things are pretty sweet right about now.
Fuckin' Russians man.Quote:
Originally Posted by Emmzee
lol. But I agree, they are adorable.Quote:
Incorrect opinion; DOE carbines are adorable.
I'd wager that that BSA holds somewhere around 16 rounds because the tube looks identical to the tube on my Winchester 1890.
Edit: didn't read the rest of the post.
This page puts it between '50-'55. Judging by the serial I'd say '54, maybe early '55. Also it turns out I had ownership mixed up, this one was my great grandfather's, the Slazenger was my grandfather's.
Adorable is not necessarily the opposite of hideous. Things can be hideous and adorable, like spiders. Or T-26s.
An old photo I dug up:
http://i.imgur.com/UHYp3l.jpg
...And a not-so-old one. Mocked up, the mount's not on yet - rifle is just resting against the scope mount.
http://i.imgur.com/4aLHzl.jpg
One day I'll have to see if I can find a full-blown sniper bolt rather than a converted one. There is a world of difference between them. Need to figure out what the fuck I'm going to do with the mismatched stock and handguard too, since they don't fit perfectly and it's dicking my accuracy. Tempted to buy a new stock or handguard (or both), the current pair have a noticeable difference at the rear barrel band so it sits crooked and wanders around sometimes.
You coul always buy a hideous sporter stock. At the very least you can pillar bed it and it will be awesome. Ugly, and a sin, but awesome.
Assuming my SD card is alive I'm going to have to whip out some shots of the black-powder .50 my dad bought a few months back.
My step-dad on the other hand just bought this, a new Sig Sauer P229, for home-defense. I'll grab pics if/when we take it to the range. So far it feels like the best handgun I've held, but until I fire a few dozen rounds I'll have to hold off on saying it's the best I've used.
Going deer hunting from today til Monday the 17th
Hopefully I will come back with some delicious bambi meat.
Real men shoot .69 Springfields.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon
:mech2:
In case you haven't noticed, I'm not a real man by society's standards. :realsmug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
you are a bad person with bad ideasQuote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
I'm not affiliated with society's standards.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon
:mech2:
Touché.
Still, I'm pretty sure one of them's fired a .69 springfield before. Me? I'm working my way up at least, or down if 8-guage shells ever counted. I'm on 9mm rounds now? What's next? .22s? .177s?
8 gauge is some serious stuff. Though the only reason I was advocating the .69 Springfield is because that's an actual historical firearm that is full-on bad-ass because it isn't that modern pellet/centerfire bojangly stuff. Also smoothbore.
All around, black-powder weapons are fare more pleasant to shoot than modern firearms.
'hilarious' would be the word i would use, but 'pleasant'?
Modern firearms snap back into your shoulder sharply, but black powder arms are more of a firm shove. So yes, pleasant is the appropriate word.
'Firm shove' is how I would describe most WWII rifles, actually, especially the Enfield. Wildcats and purpose-designed hunting rounds kick, service rounds push.
Rifles like the Springfield and Lee-Enfield are still much more of a snap than a shove like black-powder. I've done quite a bit of shooting with replica American Civil War-era arms (Springfields and Enfields mostly) and they are comparatively gentle. They kick back, but they don't accelerate as fast as smokeless.
so. let's not ever fuck with Russia. The second video this guy fires a fully automatic PKM and he's pretty accurate considering the circumstances.
