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I guess we have different definitions of CQB. In Halo, if you aren't shooting across the map at somebody chances are they are within 30 feet of you. I consider that CQB, and the DMR does an admiral job at that range.
That said, the Concussion is pretty great at stopping a bull-rush, mostly for its physics and less so for the damage. The Needler is another fantastic option for stopping such an attack...I love it in Reach.
>Implying most artists in the industry aren't blazed out of their mindsQuote:
Originally Posted by Siliconmaster
:-3
Hah true enough
:iamafag:Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul Russel
speaking of design-- new pelican design incoming. Rigid wings.
I didn't expect to like anything done to the Pelican, but Hind is the best goddamn thing they could have pulled inspiration from.
Looks to me like those wings could still rotate between the thrusters on the wings and the main intakes, not sure though xP
Dat Pelican is horrible.
I like the Jackal though.
That pelican looks god awful.
Anyone else think the Pelican there looks like the hornet someone made for CE years back?
Yeah, now that you mention it. I don't think it looks bad though. Different, but not bad, though I don't like the wings too terribly much.Quote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Aw, my favourite part of the pelicans were the articulating wings :(
I just don't think they're elaborate enough for what the designers are going for. I think they're a bit too simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timo
Come on man... Atleast say that its a story spoiler :PQuote:
Originally Posted by =sw=warlord
Halo 4, now with MOAR REALISM! So hardcore!
That Pelican seems more disappointing once you get an HD shot of the front instead of some cheap silhouetted shot from the back.
Aw, and I was excited for it too. :saddowns:
Pelican looks disgusting tbh
the gojira jackals are growing on me :-3
Meanwhile, at the Legion of Doom:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=7aoJMAMR038
:1
Geez, this game isn't even out yet and I already hate everything about it.
... the hud looks even MORE like metroid prime now. Its even has the helmet visible!
Seriously...just no. That's it. That's the last straw. Nobody fucks with my pelican and turns it into an insect-like piece of turd. For real, fuck Halo 4 and everything about it. This is just 343i trying to take someone else's game and call it their own so they have to change virtually everything about it. Fuck you, 343i.Quote:
Originally Posted by itszutak
I like that the levels look more Halo 3 than they do Reach, but everything else looks like its been thrown together from multiple different games.
I can understand them needing and trying to go in their own art direction, to create their own image from Bungie, but that redesign had to be made by someone of their rocker. Same goes for whoever approved it. And whoever approved their approval. And whoever pays them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amit
You know, I wonder how many people at 343 are working on this as their first game (MS hiring from within and all)...sure they may have some big names from across the industry near the top, but what about all them gophers we don't actually get to hear from or see...
so around 3 minutes in that video i saw yet another mid-range scoped weapon. so now we have 4? br, dmr, carbine, and that other thing? at this rate they might be better off just going full loadout. we have enough mid range weapons that perform similarly enough to effectively group them into their own class. not saying i want to see that happen to halo, but that certainly appears to be the direction theyre going.
It's always been that way to an extent, do you prefer the BR or Carbine? DMR or Needle Rifle? Now we just have 4 options instead of 2. And there had to be at least 3, for each faction. I think this is all fine, as long as one weapon doesn't vastly overpower the others. People can chose to use what caters to their playstyle most.
How about Halo 1? Pistol or...pistol? They completely changed the formula from Halo 1 to the rest of the series.
As for playstyle, the 4 different mid-range weapons have nothing to do with it. They all perform roughly the same with a tweaked RoF in exchange for a tweaked damage value, etc. All that affects is personal aesthetic tastes (i.e. you hating Covenant weapons).
Lol you're so wrong. The Carbine is obviously the best of all. Nothing will survive. It's all for not. I'll make you regret that game you just bought!Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
In all seriousness though, DMR is actually a mid-long range weapon meant to fill gaps between everything else and the sniper/beamer. Which is good in my honest opinion. At least now the BR can be contested and not destroy everything on the field from a safe range. It's still a good weapon, but it's just not the only one besides the Sniper/Beamer that can kill effectively from a good distance. The Carbine looks rather OP to me right now tbh, mainly because it has a faster firing rate than in Halo 3. I do like how everyone is saying that it's a lot more accurate now.
The Carbines ROF looks ridiculous, I'm probably going to whore it a LOT.
I think it'll be OK as long as there is a meaningful range limitation on the weapons, like the pistol in Halo 1. It could reach, but not to the extent where it began competing with the sniper rifle. I think that's the largest issue the following games had, the mid-range weapon could basically serve as the poor-man's sniper rifle.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
I mean, I know "BUT REALIZM!" will show its face, but the range the DMR had in Reach was not good for play.
I'm also going to really miss the Needle Rifle. The Carbine can fuck off, the Needle Rifle was far more interesting and entertaining.
:gtfo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Pew pew BOOM! > pew pew.
Needle rifle felt like a bb gun that shoots glass. I like the carbine better. "Chunkier".
With hit-markers, the Needle Rifle's ricochet, and Promethian vision, you could be a formidable opponent and start attacking enemies before they pop around corners.
Pff, that can be fixed. The mechanics are what make it more fun. Such a cheap-ass weapon in multi-player...Quote:
Originally Posted by itszutak
no shit this is a spoiler
what the fuck is this shit?
this game
>_<
Nope, it's multiplayer. That's infection mode.
It was leaked in some magazine a while ago. Good to see a decent shot of it though.
Edit:
http://halo4nation.com/wp-content/up...re_2012_5.jpeg
See, infection mode with actual infection I think is brilliant. As long as it's not a singleplayer thing.
Those things look like the Mouth of Sauron without his helmet on.
I hope that's an "Infection-only" model. It looks like generic zombie shooter trash and I won't have it in my singleplayer.
Oh man I think that'll be brilliant in Infection
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/Universe/...#imageNumber=6
Pelican wings still articulate, go to image 6 :D
Well at least we have that. It looks like it ate too many donuts.
Yay, some hope has been restored. Still not happy about the cockpit though.
The other images look pretty, and I'm glad to see someone finally driving the Scorpion tank. Also, look at the motion tracker on the last two images. That's cool.
I believe they made the pelican cargo bay huge to carry like, a warthog, instead of it hanging behind it? I feel like I read that somewhere.
Dunno, but:
As you can see, the Warthog is still on dangling from the same place it's always been dangling. Maybe it carries two now. :shrug:
Lol yup you're right. i missed that. Strange
Dat environment. <3
Also, I found this interesting:
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/Universe/Detail/campaign-screenshots/0a467bba-3695-4eb5-bcd1-29a1e3689dba#imageNumber=4
And this too:
http://halo.xbox.com/en-us/Universe/...#imageNumber=3
Ohh hey look the wings are still articulated, guess all that rage was for nothing :VVVV
Carol Pinchefsky writes, "An enemy flung our own %^*@! grenade right back in our faces." This somewhat "revealing" two-page article adds a few extra details to the campaign as well as explain an unknown detail or two about our frisky, blue partner. Oh, and there's a new AI we haven't met yet, but they don't explain it here; all we know now is that he's a wizard apparently.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=snCG2GOHSoI
Promethean Weapons video is out. A bit shorter than the other videos, but still good. I especially like the Incineration Cannon, with the weird bouncy projectiles.
A lot of those guns look like something out of Unreal Tournament.
I think I'll use the Boltshot a lot. The pistol/sawed-off shotgun functionality of it will really come in handy during close-quarters games.
Binary Rifle? o.0
1 shot kill, 2 rounds per magazine, Really inaccurate from the hip, Spartan Laser'esque visible red laser pointer when scoped. o.OQuote:
Originally Posted by TeeKup
Those sounds are awesome. I love the Suppressor's audio and just how it goes. Incineration Cannon is fantastically fucking cool too.
In case some people are trying to stay absolutely dark about campaign...
Keep yourself in the dark. It's good for your eyesight.
Mechs, gross.
As for the Promethean weapons, these are the only good sounds. I liked them.
Also, Frankie, yes, the Binary Rifle is way OP. So is the Scattershot.
I'm really starting to like the Promethean weapons now... but I'll stick with my beloved Covie guns!
And I imagine I'll play the mech level the most out of all of 'em, all the while making stupid references that make me want to kill myself :downs:
The mech is looking pretty cool tbh. I thought it was dumb at first, but it's looking a lot cooler and versatile with each new press release. Although, I still think walker mechs are utter shit.
You're such an oddball. You like something that you hate. WTF does that mean?!Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
It means that this mech makes it work, even though I normally think Walker Mechs suck. For example, there are exceptions like the Colossus and Immortal from SC2 or maybe even the Goliath in Brood War, but frankly nearly every walking mech I see just isn't that cool to me, not to mention it's not that mobile half of the time. This one really reminds me of the Goliath tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Amit
I have a lot of conditional likings of things I normally hate. If something is put in a particular way, it just works well enough with me, even if I usually don't like it.
http://www.gundamplanet.com/media/ca...nd-type-pa.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/95/At-te.jpg
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__...aver_Titan.jpg
http://media.giantbomb.com/uploads/1...e8d1648cdb.jpg
You think these look stupid? People like you confuse me.
Also I thought you watched Code Geass? Or was that Dark Halcyon, I can't recall.
I don't exactly consider Gundams Walker-Mechs because of how versatile they are. I also don't consider quadrapeds to be in the same category as the walker-mechs that I dislike. I generally do not like humanoid walkers. They just aren't that aesthetically pleasing to me and they look awkward imo.
Code Geass doesn't use Walker-Mechs, it uses mechs that move via landsliders (which are basically skates for mechs) or anti-gravity floating units which make them a lot more badass imo.
My biggest issue with Walker-Mechs is that they don't rectify the same problems humans have moving on two legs. They're still slower, more susceptible to landmines/ditches/pits, and are generally cumbersome. Please correct me if I'm wrong though. I've just had bad experiences with Walker-Mechs in the past, but please don't use Gundams or Quadrapeds like the ATAT as examples.
I was never a big fan of the mech in Gears 3, so I'm not expecting to like this new one. But it can't be worse than the sabre.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalcyon
Incineration cannon looks fun. Like it fires Mass Effect's incendiary grenades.
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Originally Posted by TeeKup
Yes, actually. All form and extraneous function. Stupid.
The God-Emperor would like a word with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DarkHalo003
http://i.imgur.com/ApVv9.jpg
Mech walkers stupid? Nigga you crazy
Might have to buy this game now :mech2:
http://www.majhost.com/gallery/1115a...4444454545.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Kornman00
Campaign preview begins at 17:30 and lasts about till 30:00
Looks like Halo to me!, I am impressed, especially with the size of that final area, as well as banshee on banshee combat.
Looks like it plays like a cross between Halo 1 and Halo 2. The Banshee sounds more like the original one. The voice actress replacing Jen is also a dead-ringer for Cortana's voice. The people they choose to play the game during demos is also, as usual, awful.
There may be hope for this game.
Fake E: this is like Two Betrayals...
It was Franky playing the demo :P
E: Im pretty sure Jen Taylor is still doing Cortana's voice...
Cortana probably asounds like Jen Taylor because it is Jen Taylor doing the voices.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
The only difference is the woman who they're using to mo-cap the animations is a different actress.
That is Jen Taylor lol. But she doesn't sound the way she did in the first three games. Her voice sounds slightly different, which is probably why Warsaw thought it was someone else.
Naw, I thought the new mocap actress was also the new voice actress. I goofed on my info. :p
Too bad she still isn't a good actress.
Oh my god the Banshee and Ghost plasma bolt SFX is annoying as hell.
EDIT: I wonder if this game will make mention of 05-032 Mendicant Bias.
Too bad she's not an actor, she's an actress.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuttyyayap
Hopefully.Quote:
Originally Posted by TeeKup
:gtfo:Quote:
Originally Posted by nuttyyayap
Is it just me or does Steve Downes sound older as Chief? I know he IS getting older (both of them), but that was something I picked up listening to that awesome demo. Frankie is pretty bad though tbh.
Frankie isn't good at playing games. But hey, it's not like you need to be good at playing games to make games, right? :downs:
The Chief has been through hell, back, and again just for a social visit. I'm certain he's tired and the constant stress of almost dying all the time puts more grey hairs on a person than being president for four years. I think it's good that they show his age. It doesn't mean he's becoming Solid Snake (though it's likely to assume that's a direction they're taking), it just means that the Chief isn't invincible and he's obviously worn around the edges.
Well, a little bit of hope has been restored for this game, but I still find the game very ugly with its very dark monotone enviroments. The gameplay however looks okay, it looks like a mashup of Halo: Reach and Halo 1.
The forerunner still doesn't look interesting. They should of looked back at Halo 3 a bit more.Quote:
Originally Posted by Higuy
:mech:
Halo 3 had the worst story and the second-worst campaign.
I'm having a hard time getting over how ugly the UNSC shotgun is and how bad it sounds...which is not related to the video at all, just saying.
Just because I am curious, what exactly is wrong with the way it sounds?Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0o-rwNODTsU
50 seconds in for reference.
It sounds like someone is shooting a nail gun into semi-deflated beach ball; it sounds like shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobblehob
I'm not sure if you were going by my post, but I was talking about the forerunner architecture. Nothing else....Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
:XD: okay...Quote:
Originally Posted by annihilation
I thought you were having a bad grammar moment while referring to the Prometheans, which in hindsight makes little sense. My apologies.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingFisher
And yes Bobble, that's why. I liked the old firing sounds for the shotgun much better.
Nevermind my post, I took it way out of context.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Ya know, they really made the Forerunner shit look like it came out of Tron. It didn't used to look like this.
http://imageshack.us/a/img28/5307/halo4r.jpg
It was fun, seemed very fluid and smooth and I couldnt see any aliasing on the models, doubt theres AA but it looked really good. I asked the guy and he said the monitors werent gaming ones, not even set to 'Game Mode' and had high response time.
Environments are what I loved the most, the level looks fantastic.
FUCK YEAH VALHALLA'S BACK BITCHES
REAL HALO
