I actually had the case listed before King, but I think I prefer the asthetics of the HAF X more.
Ivy bridge I7's are expensive, or do you just mean the bridge on the mobo.
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I actually had the case listed before King, but I think I prefer the asthetics of the HAF X more.
Ivy bridge I7's are expensive, or do you just mean the bridge on the mobo.
670's are out, benchmarks show them competing/beating out 7970's at the usuals while drawing less power than a 560 ti, for $400.
Hopefully this means another 7970 price cut?
AMD won't cut prices again. Save a few bucks so you can get the GTX670 :)
yeah its tempting
Why do you even consider a $400 GPU? Do you need it?
yes
yep
bigger my frame rate at high resolutions :)
Hey Folks, thanks for the input. My mate also said 670 came out so I'm thinking I'll just get the EVGA 670 Superclocked, which is on level with the 680 and like £100 less.
Parts:
OCZ 120GB SSD
EVGA 670 GTX SuperClocked
Corsair 850W HX Modular PSU
Corsair 16GB DDR3 1600Mhz Jet Black
Asus P8Z77-V SOcket 1155 (friend showed me this, thoughts?)
Intel i7 3770k Ivy Bridge 3.5Ghz
LG Bluray Player/Burner
Coolermaster HAF X Case
Rough cost so far: £1,223.53 / $1966.52
I keep forgetting that I'm living in the past with just one display for gaming. :ugh:
phiteQuote:
[]Case: $120 Fractal Design R3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16811352014
[]Mobo: $190 ASUS P8Z77-V - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16813131820
[x]RAM: $47 8gb Vengeance LP - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233186
[]GPU: $410 Asus GTX 670 DCII -
[x]CPU: $230 3570K - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819116504
[]Heatsink: $53 HR-02 Macho - http://www.amazon.com/ThermalRight-H.../dp/B005ERSN7G
[]PSU: $90 Seasonic 620w Mod - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817151095
[]HDD: $90 Samsung F3 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822152185
[x]Soundcard: $14 Xonar DG - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829132020
[x]Thermal Compund: $9 MX-4 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16835186038
[]Monitor: $340 PCBank (27" 2560x1440) -
Total: $1584
You're spending too much. I'm assuming you're running at 1080 @ 60hz, why do you want a 670? If you're not planning on SLI you're waisting your money on anything above a ~600w PSU. You're waisting your money on 16gb of ram unless you're pushing huge amounts of polies or raw video. Is there a reason you need the hyperthreading of the 3770k?Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
fuck that jcap guy too
I do appreciate you trying to look for alternatives, but the main purpose is to built a powerful machine that woken become old and dated in a short time. I'd rather spend a bit more and make it worth while.
I was originally going for 680 but in scaling back. In a short answer, yes I would like ability to SLI in future.
Any issues with compatability with the parts? Going to order later today probably
Ordered - Had to also buy a 2TB HDD and Windows 7 copy which didnt help the cost =\
I've been toying around with the idea of getting a server for upcoming projects, to stop the hassle of having to personally give out files and builds of projects.
I'd like to know, does anyone have any experience working with a server/SVN? What kind of computer components should I be getting/creating for this kind of job, and what kind of settings should the computer have once I get it?
Hahaha, good one...:ehhh:Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
With AMD dragging their ass on the 7990, the AIB partners seemed to have taken it into their own hands.
http://www.techpowerup.com/166643/AM...-X2-quot-.html
No doubt these and the 7990 itself will be cheaper than the ridiculous prices nvidia is pushing on the 690.
inorite? $1100 for third-place performance. :maddowns: Then again, from what I'm seeing the AMD offering blows the Nvidia offering away on DX10/11 performance where DX10/11 is actually properly used.Quote:
Originally Posted by JackalStomper
Actually, the 7970 really shines once you OC it. The first versions weren't faster because the process wasn't refined yet and there were no custom coolers. They honestly should have waited a few more months so that they could have a faster card and look better versus the competition. Had it been out at the time, I would have opted for two GTX 680s for the sake of image quality, but I'm not at all dissatisfied with what I have.
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Originally Posted by Higuy
First off, there are better alternatives to SVN. Git and Mercurial being two common ones.
What type of content are you planning on versioning? If you're only dealing with text then either will work fine. If you're planning on versioning binary data (for example, Halo Maps and/or PSDs/.max files) you'll want to stick with Mercurial since there are plugins which help keep disk usage in check. Versioning binary data is generally a bitch no matter what though.
In terms of hardware, you're really not going to need too much. Your ISP is going to be your main bottleneck, and after that I/O. So go for 7200RPM drives or if you're feeling rich, some SSDs.
In terms of software, it depends on what exactly you want to do. Version Control is a good idea and for the most part you can run SVN, Mercurial or Git out of Apache or Nginx. You'll probably want to stick with some variant of Linux (Ubuntu Server or Fedora being a good starting point) but if you want to spend the money you could get a copy of Win7 Pro/Ultimate or Windows Server. If you have an .edu email address you should be able to get a free copy of Windows Server here.
Another thing you might want to look into is Continuous Integration. I've mainly seen this done in the context of building source code but there's no reason why you couldn't throw together a couple of scripts which compile map content and then package it up into a zip file or something.
http://i.imgur.com/8noWw.png
Whachu guys think? Its all going in a microatx case and I hope I can eventually SLI my cards, should I get the 570gtx or wait for the 670 to drop in price?
Will that 570 even fit it in a micro atx case?
As long as his box isn't one of those SFF cases, he should be fine.
I'd hold out and save up for a GTX670. They're better at pretty much everything except GPGPU stuff.
How much of an influence does a decent motherboard have on performance? There are plenty of motherboards available that are cheaper and more expensive, I just have no idea how much to spend.
This is what i'm looking at:
ASUS P8Z77-V LX Intel Z77 DDR3 PCI-E3.0 LGA1155
Intel Core i5 3570K Ivy Bridge 3.40Ghz 6MB 77W LGA1155
8GB DDR3 1600MHz
OCZ AGILITY 4 128GB SATA III 2.5" SSD with a mounting tray
ASUS XONAR D1 7.1 CHANNEL PCI SOUND CARD
I'm going to hang on to my 4850 for the time being as it can still play games pretty well, and i'm not too worried about gaming anymore. This is more to make editing photos much easier. Do you guys think it'd be better to go cheap and get an mATX mobo and a higher spec CPU, or stick with what i've got? Or should I go AMD?
I would define a motherboard like this:
The brand does not define performance it defines:
-Build quality (e.g. Capacitors used) -> Lifetime
-Layout quality (Ports, Heat-Management)
-Support
The chipset defines:
-Performance BUT
getting a chipset from the same series with a higher version number, does not result in a better performance. Most of the time they are just required because they support more features you might want like USB 3.0. This is the point where one could save money.
Unless you want a dedicated sound card, you could just try to get a mobo with 7.1 integrated. Not sure about this though.
I'd only ever buy a big brand name mobo from a decent vendor, so quality and support aren't big issues, and I don't have enough devices to warrant additional connectivity. I'd like a dedicated sound card as i've spent a bit of money on speakers and headphones and would like to get the best I can out of them. But then again the last time I used onboard was over 4 years ago, so i'm sure it's much better than it was. I guess that's another option, fork out more on a nicer mobo and flag the soundcard all together :s. I wish there weren't so many options.
My main concern is that I can grab these instead (for example):
Intel Core i7 3770 Ivy Bridge 3.40GHZ 8MB 77W LGA1155
ASUS P8B75-M INTEL B75 DDR3 USB3.0 SATA3 PCI-E3.0
For only $20 more (i'm assuming i7 > i5). I'd personally prefer an ATX motherboard just to allow for better airflow within the case which isn't a big deal, i'm just a bit apprehensive of taking the cheapest motherboard available if it'd just end up bottlenecking the more expensive parts i'd end up buying with the spare cash.
Well the main difference between the two board is the B75 and Z77 chipset (the motherboard is build around them). B75 is the lowest range, Z77 a lot more higher. The B75 has only one SATA 6GB/s port which will be required by your SSD, this might be a critical point in case you want to add more SSDs in the future. The rest of the features (SSD Caching, more Overclocking control) are really just redundant.
Make a picture yourself http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGA_115...ridge_Chipsets
I would try to get a motherboard with a Q77 chipset, you might be able to get an i7 as well then.
Please get a SSD from Intel, Crucial, or Samsung. Crucial's 128GB M4 should be similar priced to that OCZ and you don't have to worry about firmware issues.
Crucial m4 is where I'd put my money if i didn't already buy a Kingston SSDNow V200 (was significantly cheaper and still suits my needs).
I can grab this samsung one for the same price: http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/comp...p?partid=16954
I haven't been able to find any Q77 chipset boards in NZ, I don't think they've been released here yet :s. At this point i'm thinking about holding onto my Audigy 2 and getting a mobo with decent onboard (Z77 chipset) just in case it doesn't work.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrickssj6
+1 Crucial M4 SSD's.
This is what i've ended up going with:
SAMSUNG 830 SERIES 128GB SATAIII SSD
Lian-Li HD-321 Dual 2.5" HDD/SDD to 3.5" Drive Bay Adapter
Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H Intel Z77 Ivy Bridge Motherboard
Intel Core i7 3770 Ivy Bridge 3.4Ghz 8MB 77W LGA1155
Mushkin Blackline FrostByte 996995 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3-1600
I don't know if you planned on ever upgrading the CPU, but you should know that LGA 1155 is officially a dead platform now. There is no more potential, what you see on the market is what you get. LGA 2011 still has one refresh left, 1155 does not.
Just throwing that out there.
2011 motherboards are still in the $450+ price range here (versus $220), which is pretty far out of my price range. I expect that this setup will last me the next few years at least so i'm not too worried about buying another motherboard further down the line.
Well, the idea is to NOT buy a new motherboard, just a CPU... =þ
That sucks about the pricing though. Over here, Z77 and X79 motherboards of similar capability can be found for near-identical prices, and the entry-level LGA 2011 CPU is the same price as the top-tier LGA 1155.
2011 CPUs are similarly priced to older sockets (some cheaper in fact), but motherboards are still stupidly priced. It'd be pointless for me to spend an extra $300 on a 2011 motherboard when it'll cost me less than that further down the line to get one.
price drops and intel usually don't go together. At least not in the consumer friendly sense.
990x:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3128383/temp/990x.JPG
2600k:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3128383/temp/2600k.JPG
basically they charge as much as they can get away with
same as all electrical goods.
you think that new phone is actually worth 700?
laff.
Hey Modacity, maybe you can help me.
What I'd like to do is run 2 VGA inputs to a single monitor. I've heard of KVM switches, but all the ones I can find seem to be for running one input to multiple monitors, which is the exact opposite of what I need. Does anyone know of a switch or something I could get where I'd be able to easily run multiple inputs to the same monitor?
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000213ZE0
Not saying you should get this one in particular as I have no idea on its quality but hopefully it can point you in the right direction.
Failing that you could get a monitor from this decade and use digital inputs instead.
There is a DVI input but the quality seriously blows compared to the VGA. Last time I tried it the colors were badly washed out. Maybe it was just the cable I used, idk. Anyway this monitor doesn't have any kind of switch or anything to change between DVI and VGA. The Xbox 360 w/ VGA cable is the other input I'm wanting, btw.
I was going to suggest using DVI. If the colours were washed out, then it was most likely that the cable was damaged. DVI is supposedly better than VGA, but most people cannot tell the difference. I use DVI because my monitor requires it to enable certain features. The Digital signal just works better or something like that. I'd say try a different DVI cable before buying osme elaborate piece of hardware. I do exactly what you want to do with my own monitor. DVI comes from Desktop GPU and VGA comes from laptop. I press the source button to switch between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pooky
There's no source button on the monitor that I know of though. Maybe the function will appear once it's connected.
Well the "source" button for me is a physical button on the monitor. It's a Samsung Syncmaster 2053BW 20". What monitor do you have? I thought all monitors with multiple inputs had this button. It might be possible that it will show up in menus after you plug in the other source, like you said.
Yeah it did, and the quality turned out good too. Surprising, since it's the same exact DVI cable I used last time... Different video card though. So for the first time I have what I've always wanted, a single unified AV setup controlling both my PC and Xbox 360. Thanks!
I completely didn't notice that the 660's were out.
Not very exciting at this point, same story undercutting price with superior performance. Only a matter of time before AMD drops their prices again.
I'm actually kind of hoping they do, especially if it includes the 7970, might grab one.
DVI is simply capable of more bandwidth and better pixel-mapping than VGA. VGA gives the monitor the signal and lets the monitor decide where to display it (hence why you can adjust position for VGA displays a lot of the time). DVI sends the signal with information on exactly what pixel should be displaying what, the monitor just confirms the position and does it.
Generally DVI is sharper and more vivid than VGA due to these two differences. Certain monitors require DVI to get the required quality and bandwidth through, 2560x1440 or 2560x1600 require Dual DVI-D cables since regular DVI cables can't pup out enough bandwidth.
DVI and HDMI are also essentially the same thing, but HDMI also supports audio channels and DRM technology as well as color-spaces apart from RGB. It is not, however, compatible with VGA.
I always feel like DVI is the forgotten interface. It's like everybody skipped it just for HDMI, and I don't even know why DisplayPort is becoming a thing. The latter is the most useless connector.
i use DVI, have for years
I use one DisplayPort, one DVI, and one HDMI, simultaneously.
:smugsome:
Well, my monitor can take VGA, two DVI, one HDMI, one Display Port, component, and composite. And has outputs for analogue 5.1.
:smugsome:
Of course, I'm only using DVI-D and HDMI at the moment (PC and Xbox). Single monitor supremacy.
???Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
There was the gap between 2007 and 2011 where more people used DVI over HDMI. I still use DVI because the cable actually came with my monitor. That and my monitor doesn't support HDMI :D
In 2007-2011 most people were still using VGA, despite VGA having technically been "dead" since 2004. TV's never had DVI input, they jumped straight from VGA to HDMI for PC input.
I use DVI because I like the fact that it does *not* support DRM, because all of my monitors have come with DVI cables since 2004, and because it screws in. :p
That is precisely why I don't like DVI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
Most people are going to use VGA at least until 2020, I'd say. Monitors aren't enough of an advancement for people to go out and spend money on a new one just for a superior cable method. Monitors last a fuck long time so I don't see anyone who already uses VGA switching until their current needs aren't met anymore. What I was saying was that in that 4 year period, a lot of people started using DVI because 22"+ monitors were becoming cheaper for the consumer and the cable came with their new monitor was DVI.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw
I use DVI because it screws in so I don't have to worry about it getting unplugged randomly. Oh and my monitor doesn't support HDMI, so...
Even if I did have a monitor that supported HDMI, I'd still use DVI. Mostly because I wouldn't have to go out and buy a new HDMI cable lol.
I don't like to use HDMI, it feels like plugging a USB cable into my monitor. I prefer using dedicated cables to do dedicated tasks. I want my monitor cable to just transfer display and screen information, not additional information like DRM.
Is this thread suitable for discussion about laptops? I hope so, because I am currently on a 1 year work placement (part of my degree course) which is far from home so I'm renting a flat for the year. It's too small for my desktop really, so if I'm going to do everything I want to I'm going to need a better laptop.
First off, I dislike Windows 7 and can get a free copy of Windows out of MSDN-AA thanks to my university so I'm thinking of getting a laptop without an OS and installing a free and legal copy of Windows XP Professional myself. Now the question is what hardware will I need? The major software I want to be able to run (which I use on my desktop, which has a 3ghz Pentium 4 and 1GB of RAM) is as follows:
- 3ds Max 5 (yes a very old version)
- Adobe After Effects (v6.5 I think)
- Adobe Premiere Pro 1.5
I expect anything that can run those, and run them well, could handle everything else I use (like Photoshop, Office and Visual Studio) I'm thinking along the lines of the following specs:
- An Intel CPU that's suitable for 32-bit Windows XP (need suggestions here), my limitted research suggests maybe an Intel Core i5, what makes 3ds max 5 run best?
- 2.5GB RAM (+/- 512MB)
- 15.4" screen (so it fits in the bags I have for my current laptop)
I have next-to-no understanding of graphics cards, but I doubt an integrated Intel one* is enough to run 3ds Max. I've done a little bit of research and I think the graphics card should have 512MB - 1GB of it's own memory (which would affect the amount of RAM, since I think video memory + RAM is not allowed to exceed 3.5GB I think) and I think OpenGL and/or Direct3D support is a must (although all today's cards probably support that anyway).
It would be nice if the machine was capable of running CMT's Open Sauced campaign smoothly without struggling without turning off many (or any) of the extras, so that might be a good guide for what the right video card would be. Sadly I'm not likely to have any time for HEK on top of everything else I want to do, which has been the suituation for quite a while.
*I believe I have one of these in my current laptop, I get a warning when starting HALO CE so I doubt Max will run. If I can run all that software with integrated Intel graphics I might just get a huge external hardrive to install 3ds Max and the video editing software on, and use my current laptop.
It's a little difficult to find laptops without operating systems installed outside of ebay.
You might be better off just getting over it and adapting to Windows 7.
Can't help you much more than that. I'm not really a laptop person.
This isn't an issue on a 64-bit OS. Seriously why so reluctant to run something from this decade?Quote:
Originally Posted by Rhydgaled
I don't understand why people even bother with XP anymore. UPGRADE TO WINDOWS 7, IT HAS COMPATABILITY WITH EVERYTHING.
gaming / game design (which it sounds like you have some part in) should all be done at 4+ gb ram, which necessitates a 64 bit operating system. also, windows 7 is excellent. id take it over xp any day.
also, get cooling pad if you can afford it. heat will do a lot of wear and tear on your components, and laptops apparently like to commit suicide by heat (since everything is crammed into that small space). keeping it cool with a pad or anything to help increase airflow will keep the laptop performing better, and make it last longer.
as for your integrated intel issue, i believe the intel core series (i3, i5, i7) all have HD3000 integrated chips, which are good enough to play tf2 on reasonable settings. youll be able to run max on that, but you should definitely try to get an actual dedicated GPU.
E: and get a 64 bit operating system dammit. i will mail you a flaming bag of cat shit if you dont
E2: one last thing, with a laptop, youre going to want to "buy for the future", if that make sense. since you cant really upgrade a laptop, dont just get something that can run halo or the programs youre into now. make the investment and spend a little more money for something that has more power, so someday when youre like "hey, i wanna try a new game", you can actually run it.
how much are you planning on spending on this?
Well, it's not compatible with everything. Win7 64 can't run 16 bit applications at all, which makes installing some really old games a pain in the ass. Also, Aero breaks compatibility with a fair few things.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePlague
Don't get me wrong though, Win 7 is a huge improvement over XP and I love it. I just run Windows Classic theme and all is well.
I feel like everyone is screaming at me with all this, "Get Windows 7!" stuff.
I'll get on it dammit, let me work up some money first!
Better hurry before microsoft decides to stop giving out licenses so people have to buy windows 8
Hey guys, I'm thinking of upgrading soon. Right now I have a prebuilt Dell thats about 2 years old, but I have a radeon HD 6950 and a new 500w PSU in it, so basically I'm looking at getting a new mobo, CPU, RAM, and a case. I don't plan on doing any super intense gaming, I mostly just need to be able to multitask a bit (ie Fraps, livestreaming, skype, etc.) and get consistent 60fps in most games. I would however like to be able to run Planetside 2 on high settings, as opposed to the 20fps I get on low right now -_-. I'm looking to spend about $350 - $400.
I really don't know that much about Motherboards and processors, so I was looking at some of the combo deals on newegg such as:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboD...=Combo.1067524
Around $250 is ideal for me, leaving the rest for RAM and a decent case. But again Idk much about Mobo's and such so I'm totally open to suggestions on that. I'm leaning towards AMD right now because the prices seem way cheaper than comparable Intel CPUs. Also, whats the deal with these 6 and 8 core cpus I'm seeing? They aren't much higher in price compared to quad-cores with similar specs. Do they really offer that much better performance or is it just a money grab?
Help a noob out here; I'm still looking around so I'm open to any suggestions. Also I'd prefer a nice big case with dvd drive and all that jazz built in.
another planetside guy :iamafag:
ive heard planetside 2 is going to be intense like bf3. idk how accurate that is, but if you want to play it on high, you might want to do some research.
ram is dirt cheap though, so just grab 8gb of of ddr3, 1600mhz ram for like, 40 bucks.
E: 6 and 8 cores are a thing, but idk if id go that route. i think those are mainly for servers and rendering machines and whatnot.
The thing about the new AMD FX line is that while they claim "X no. of cores," they really behave as if they had half of that number. So really, that "six-core" CPU is more like a three-core; you actually get better single-thread performance by disabling half of the AMD cores (leave 0, 3,and 5 up but kill 1, 2, and 4).
I say go with an Intel i5 CPU, like this one:
Core i5-2310
Holy fuck, there is a dirth of decent budget Intel-socket boards. This is the best I could dig up without going as far back as the awful P67 chipset:
ASRock H77 Pro4-M or ASUS P8B75-V
It's roughly $280 for the CP/Mobo pair, but the $30 trade-off is well-worth the huge performance boost. RAM is dirt cheap, so don't worry about having to stash too much away for it; I recommend Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600, but 1600 G.Skill is pretty good...look at the egg ratings. As for case, what strikes your fancy?
Regarding Planetside 2, the settings are currently capped at Medium, so even if you set it to High you won't see any difference. There are also rumours going around that Planetside 2's highest settings will slow PCs to a crawl with intentionally high levels of detail so that when the game ages it still remains visually competitive. So just know that even with this upgrade, you still may not be able to run it full blast. If the rumours are true, you'll need much higher-end set-up.
Is 16 gigs worth it or just overkill? I've found corsair 8GBx2 for $60 on sale right now so I figure It's worth it compared to 40ish for 8gb.
I have 16GB for future-proofing. I say it's worth it. But I also still have four more RAM slots to fill up...hmmm...
I've never even come close to filling more than half of my 8 gigs at any moment...
I haven't, either. But I also know that games are going to start getting more resource intensive really fast over the next few years as the current generation of consoles falls by the wayside.
Just load every map the game has into the RAM. No more map loading xD
Yeah, the 500w PSU was another concern for me, so thanks for the heads up on that. What are the advantages of a more expensive MoBo? Is performance affected at all or is more a matter of longevity?
I like Warsaws suggestion of:
- Core I5-2310
- ASRock H77 Pro4-M
I've always felt more confident with Intel but I was curious about those AMD's. I'm looking at ~$330 with those 2 and the RAM, tack on another $50ish for a case plus shipping etc. puts me at $400 which is fine by me.
Also, just so I'm sure, PSU's and optical drives are all standardized right? My current PSU and DVD drive will fit into a new case?
just out of curiousity, whats your issue with the p67 chipset? ive had it for over a year now, and i havent had any problems with it.
Do you mind posting the link to that sale?Quote:
Originally Posted by Corndogman
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820233296Quote:
Originally Posted by Rook
It's actually $66 not 60, but shipping is free at least.
E: I think its just a 1 day sale as well.
You can use your old DVD drives in the new case, the 5.25" bay is a standard. I'm assuming you bought an ATX PSU, so any ATX case and most micro-ATX cases will house it.
It's old and crippled, and I don't like buying crippled hardware...Z68 was the superior option during SB's heyday and well worth the premium, as it opened up many upgrade options. He's also going to want something that can potentially do PCI-E 3.0 if he decides he wants to upgrade the GPU again...those Radeon HD8000-series chips are just around the corner.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donut
Spend more now, spend less later. Spend less now, spend even more than you should later. If he were on a higher budget I'd say go with X79, as the price difference over a top-end Z77 is negligible and it still has some life left in it. LGA 1155 is about to reach end-of-life, while LGA2011 still supposedly gets one more refresh. Socket AM3 on the AMD side is also supposedly a dead end now.
Ok so heres what I've got now, thoughts?
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz (Only $15 more than the other one, faster and consumes less power)
ASRock H77 Pro4-M
IN WIN MANA134 Black SEEC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
CORSAIR XMS 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM
Along with the Radeon HD 6950 that I already have and 500w PSU.
Looks good to me. I would say bump up to 1600MHz on the RAM, but I know that Intel CPUs really don't care what speed your RAM is. AMD CPUs are more affected by it. Case isn't really my style (I like sleek and minimal), but the price is right and the reviews are good. My only gripe on the case is that there aren't more reviews.
My reasoning for that case is that its the biggest one I could find at that price. I basically had to hammer my GPU into my current case so I wanted to make sure I had lots of space for that and cable management. I'm not entirely sold on its looks either, but it looks rugged as hell, and in reality its just a box that sits under my desk so I'm not too concerned about it. Might change it though.
I've already purchased the RAM since its a limited time offer, but I'd like to get some more feedback before I go ahead on the other stuff.
That memory is really expensive for what you're getting. I just bought another 2x4GB kit of 1866Mhz memory for $51 CAD.
And you see very little improvement with it. Intel CPUs don't care much for increased speed from what I've seen, and what little they do won't matter because he's not building a high-end rig here. He'll be HDD and GPU bottlenecked before that RAM speed really starts to matter.
In the final analysis, capacity is often more important than speed. If you run out of RAM, it won't matter how fast it is because there won't be any left. You can argue that he doesn't need 16GB and that 8GB is enough, but if he wants to save money down the road he's better off grabbing 16 now rather than 8GB now and 8GB later. DDR3 prices are nearing the bottom of the price curve.
16 gigs for $100 USD isn't bad at all, I jumped on 8 Gb of 1600 for 50 when it was on sale a few months back, I thought that was a total steal, since the last time I bought RAM it was 4 Gb for $100, and that was on sale. So maybe prices have just dropped dramatically, but that seems like it was a good price to me.
The RAM that I linked to was on sale for $65 yesterday, which is why I bought it. I wouldn't buy it at its current price ($95), so no, I don't think I over-payed for it.
Awesome.
I'm just saying that had you shopped around a bit more, you could of probably got faster memory for even cheaper. CAD is worth less than USD right now, and I still got it cheaper "in-country".
That isn't bad memory by all means though, and the price you got it as was def worth it in comparison to the non-sale price.
Oh well, I'm sure it'll be fine. Anyways, unless anyone has any objections I'll be ordering this later today:
Intel Core i5-3450 Ivy Bridge 3.1GHz
ASRock H77 Pro4-M
ZALMAN Z11 Plus HF1 Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
E: Also, I realized that my PSU is actually 550w not 500, so that should give me a bit more clearance.
Ew, Ivy Bridge. If you're going to spend $200 on a CPU, you might as well spend the $20 to get the unlocked Core i5-2500K, that way you can overclock it and stay competitive even when the tech moves on.
What's wrong with Ivy Bridge, isn't it just the newest iteration of Sandy Bridge? You're right, the $20 is probably worth it in the long run, but I'm worried about power consumption. It might now be worth it if I have to spend another $100 or so on a new PSU.
e: Fuck it, I'll just go for it.
They run hot versus their predecessors and the performance gain isn't really worth the price premium or the heat premium in my book. I mean, it enables PCI-E 3.0 on Z68 boards, but that's a moot point unless you plan on doing multi-GPU. That board I suggested can't realistically do multi-GPU, and getting one that can for Intel CPUs would drive your costs up considerably.
My main issue here was how close to the price of an unlocked CPU you were.
Alright, well I went with the i5-2500k and a motherboard that was slightly cheaper, but had free shipping, so that balanced the cost a little. I'm happy with my build and am pretty excited to get it running.
I don't know nuthin about computer components anymore, so i'm coming here for one of you tech savvy duders. I'm asking for someone to list the best pc components for around 750 bucks to build a complete person pc with the exception of a mouse, keyboard, and speakers. Don't need a super fancy case, if it can be cheap and cool(air flow shit) to apply more funds towards primary components; do so.
I will shower you with colon cobras upon reception of said list.
Intel i9-6660X Super-Turbo CPU
128GB 4800Mhz DDR5 Memory
Nvidia XTR 7000 16GB GPU
1.2TB SSD
2000W PSU
Heh, that's way under his budget. I think you should suggest something with a bit more power since he has more to spend.
get a nuclear power plant supply, better be safe
personally I would say wait for haswell but if you want a new rig RIGHT NOW...
case: corsair 300r
mobo: z77 chipset, something from either asrock/asus/msi
cpu: i5-3550
gpu: gtx 660
hdd: wd10ezex
ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820231426 (fuck longass model numbers)
adjust the components for lower/higher performance based on what you want, this is just a baseline.
Thank you to everyone but freelancer.
660gtx
i7 3770k
16GB DDR3 1600RAM
ASSROCK mobo
1TB HDD
550W PSU
ANTEC ATX TOWER
This seems like as good a place as any to post this. Okay Modacity, I'm having an incredibly frustrating sound issue. Basically whenever a really loud, bass heavy sound like a gunshot plays it comes out sounding really crappy and distorted. I've tried multiple sound cards, onboard audio, played with every windows sound setting I can find and nothing seems to fix the problem. Here's the 2 best audio sources I've found that create the issue, if it helps
Any of those big bass BOOMs do it.
I've also tried multiple headsets, speaker systems, etc. It always happens regardless of the hardware used, which makes me think it's somehow a Windows issue.
What models of sound card did you use?
I've had issues with on-board sound and Creative, but not with HT Omega cards.
It could be interference. Or it could be that the slot you are putting it in is causing the issue, if you haven't tried moving the card around. I really don't think it's a Windows issue, it's way too specific.
Asus Xonar DX and HT Omega eClaro
I've tried 2 different PCI-E slots with no success and there aren't any wires or anything nearby to them.
First video:
Laptop Speaker - Clipping
PC Sound System - Clipping
High-End Audio Interface + Headphones - Clipping.
So if it is just this video then the clipping is normal otherwise your speaker would reproduce the sound wrongly (reducing the clipping even though it is there).
The guy in the video did this on purpose probably, this is the original song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xoXG-4DntUA
I hear no clipping in the second video though. Make sure you don't boost the sound or change these settings if you are not sure what you are doing. 24bit/48kHz is standard.
http://cdn.head-fi.org/1/1a/500x1000...tiesinWin7.gif
I did get the clipping in some other stuff, like Brutal Doom gameplay and such. If it's just the source file in all cases, there's an awful lot of shitty audio files floating around out there.
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Originally Posted by Pooky
Hey bro's, after the 3rd HDD failure in 3 years (2 of them in a raid set up >_>. >________________> ohgfoahogihaspihlihgoasihsgoihsa (i think i've lost everything)) I'm looking at a good SDD with a standard HDD for the bulk of my system.
from what i've heard, this is a very good one, at a good price and a really good warranty.
OCZ 256G Vertex 4 Series SSD
Internet Price: $217.00
http://umart.com.au/newindex2.phtml?bid=5
And i'm not sure what a good HDD is anymore. But i'm not getting another WD.