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I really hope this is the reason why AMD hasn't released a new desktop FX processor in quite a while (hopefully building a new architecture behind the scenes with strong single threaded performance, etc). If that's the case I'd expect them to wait a bit for the prices to come down, while further improving their new architecture (if there is any). Just hope they don't drop out of the CPU/APU market.

The only good thing about the APUs are their GPU and HSA (that doesn't seem to be going anywhere).

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I really hope this is the reason why AMD hasn't released a new desktop FX processor in quite a while (hopefully building a new architecture behind the scenes with strong single threaded performance, etc). If that's the case I'd expect them to wait a bit for the prices to come down, while further improving their new architecture (if there is any). Just hope they don't drop out of the CPU/APU market.

The only good thing about the APUs are their GPU and HSA (that doesn't seem to be going anywhere).

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Nah, AMD just messed up. They made a good preforming chip, but it had a very high TDP and they didn't want to sell it with their FX line. They haven't released a new FX chip because the high TDP one greatly outpreformed what they've had.

Wouldn't that mean something new is in the works? I have a 8350 and it performs pretty good in heavily threaded tasks. It's the single threaded tasks that kinda suck. I would expect for them to atleast bring the APUs up to or very close to intel speeds.

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Wouldn't that mean something new is in the works? I have a 8350 and it performs pretty good in heavily threaded tasks. It's the single threaded tasks that kinda suck. I would expect for them to atleast bring the APUs up to or very close to intel speeds.

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Yeah, as soon as the die size per chip gets reduced for AMD, which GlobalFoundries (who makes the chips) i'm sure a new chip would be released. I, too, am hoping on an amd enthusiast chip but as long as they can't get the die smaller, they're kinda stuck. If GF had a 24 nm architecture up and running i'm sure AMD would still be competitive with intel. I'd even expect that their APU's would kick intel's integrated trash.

AMDs APU intergrated graphics already kick intels intergrated junk. The faster the RAM in your system the faster the graphics on the APU will be.

On Intel's side we should see DDR4 with X99 launching soon™

I'd probably go Intel if AMD doesn't show signs of releasing another (improved) enthusiast CPU by mid next year. Or at least having more cores on their APUs with much improved IPC and a few other things. Right now it seems the latest APUs gpu takes up about 47% of the chips die.

Plus, if HSF takes off as AMD hopes it would then that combined with a couple strong cores could scare intel.

Sorry for the double post but I need an opinion.

Will I really benefit much from going Intel (not getting anything below a 4770k) compared to my current system? Or would I benefit more in spending my money on a much better GPU?

FX 8350 (OC'd pretty significantly on air)
8GB of 1600MHz RAM, OC'd to the max the system will allow (1866)
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev. 4
Gigabyte Geforce 750ti Windforce 2GB (doesn't draw power from just the PCI express interface like the original design)
750watt PSU

Games are more GPU limited nowadays than anything else. Wait a month and nab a GTX 870.

I'm just sitting here with my GTX 580. Man, I can't wait until I get to build my next computer.