i recall that piece of garbage was actually for sale for a short time? it's projection lol
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The concept is still awesome. OLED, make it happen!
Question:
I currently have a ATI 7850 as my current GPU. I see the new r9 series have come out, at the pricey cost of roughly 400~ for one of the "better" models like the R9 280x.
I was wondering if it'd rather be worth getting the R9 280x or simiply another 7850 to run in crossfire with. I'm assuming if I got the 7850 and run it in crossfire, by the time I can't really play games on ultra anymore it'd be time to upgrade and the R9 series will already be much lower than what it is now. But is CrossFire worth it? I'm mainly considering that option since I have a triple monitor setup now.
From what I recall. the 280X is effectively a re-badged card so I'm not sure you'll get that much of a big difference.
280x is just a 7970 with a small overclock but it's still a fast card for the price. All the higher end AMD gpus have jacked up prices thanks to the litecoin / altcoin miners right now so maybe you should wait a month or two.
Yeah I plan on waiting a few months - but if I did crossfire it'd be with just two 7850's, and I'm assuming it'd be with the bridge (my mobo does support all this, and also just has two pci-e slots anyway)
I currently run trip monitors how you explained NneYaTano, I'm just thinking it'd be nice for the extra graphical power now, and that I might be able to actually play games decently across all 3 monitors if I wanted too. Right now my FPS gets down pretty low (in the teens, sometimes when I'm lucky 20's) when I try, I'm assuming two GPU's will help increase the power for that.
It really depends on what game you want to play with the cards. Support comes and goes as games get updated, unfortunately. For example EA broke BF4's SLI support with a previous patch because they suck I guess??
anyone looking for i7 3770 cpus?
pm me
Needing a price check on my current PC that I'm gonna be selling. Have two possible buyers already but need to find a fair price and I've been out tune with PC parts for a long while.
Processor AMD Phenom(tm) II X4 965 Processor (4 CPUs), ~3.42GHz
Memory 4GB DDR3
Hard Drive 500GB
Video card AMD Sapphire 6870 1GB DDR5
And the case is an Antec 300 if that matters at all. Thanks niggers.
http://i.imgur.com/77wFSlc.jpg
Hard to know what to ask without more specific information on what you have (make, model for each part). Going off of what you provided:
CPU: $90
GPU: $125
HDD: $30
Case: $15 (it's used and they were as low as $30 new)
Motherboard: $50
Memory: $30
Total: $340
Knowing what your motherboard is could boost it quite a bit.
Perhaps use a credit card or something similar to scrape it off. Something that will not react with the surface or the goop but will only take it off. That being said, might want a second opinion.
Coffee filter and alcohol. Use a toothpick for hard to reach areas.
Those are cool, you know, if you never want to move it again.
good job that it a good price for what it was :)
hope u got a wykd syk posting station now :)
Don't bother with it. For the cost of a good loop you can buy another GPU and that's a noticeable performance improvement :mech:
But a custom loop will also be far less noisy than running two video cards with blowers and probably cooler, too. That being said, it's not really worth it unless you've got a multi-card setup.
hahaha the price of that thing
Freelancer's preordered four.
It is a computer so you can do the same thing an Intel NUC could do really, but that would be dumb . Have fun paying for a current gen SBC.Quote:
Not sure if it's new thread worthy, but what sort of applications do you think this would be good for? It's pretty interesting to say the least.
I have a dead Pentium 3 based one and it's worth quite a bit if it worked today.
Current gen SBC...current gen Small Block Chevy?
superior bitcoin cruncher
looking at getting a new computer
Whats a good CPU to go with these days?
looking for something thats not top of the line, but will hold up fine for the next 3 years or so.
I personally have an i5 3470 which runs perfectly fine for everything except rendering in C4D, but that's mostly down to core count rather than processing speed.
Got mine for £125 last year so it's not mega expensive.
+1 for Mid-High range Core i5 processor. They're still the best for general usuage / gaming. If you start adding stuff on top of gaming like live streaming or recording then that's when you move up to an i7, but a higher end i5 will still handle that stuff fairly well.
is the 4570 a good choice?
If you have the cash, go for the Intel Core i5-4670K Haswell 3.4GHz. AFAIK it's got the best bang for your buck.
"HD7560"
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There's your problem!
lol
e: get a new gpu right away. the cpu would be the next thing to replace down the road.
maybe trials fusion is buggy with his current gpu drivers or maybe the game is just a mess?? :iiam:
Anyways since you want a l33t gaymenz pc that means you want something similar to the following:
tl;dr - go to pc parts picker and look at what others built
- haswell CPU like the 4670k or 4770k
- SSD like the samsung 840 evo (lots of options to pick from here)
- at least 8GB (2 x 4GB sticks) of DDR3 1600 or faster
- AMD r9 280x or nvidia gtx 770? The 280x will probably be usable longer as it has 3GB of vram compared to 2GB on the 770. There are 4GB 770s but they cost a bit more.
- a good psu :downs:
It is if you're not planning on overclocking, since it can't be overclocked at all. If you think you will mess with overclocking some time down the road, get the 4670k.
Put a 750ti in there and you'll be running much faster than that onboard amd gpu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814487025
nah i dont really fuck around with overclocking tbqh. as long as it's not being a bottle neck i leave the CPU alone.
i do have that massive noctura CPU fan, but it'd probably be years before the 4570 would be the bottle neck in a system ya?
with current generational stuff i'm finding i'm wearing them out before games catchup to them.
what do ya reckon?
You'll love it. I just like to overclock things for the fun of it lol.
Puters are for pray gaem.
OC is nerd stuff
(but seriously with current gen CPU's, i'd be looking at the least at a couple of years before the CPU bottle necks the system ya?)
If it's any help, I bought an i5-2500k just about 3 years ago and I've never needed to overclock the thing. I've never seen it be a bottleneck in anything, and if it ever is, I'll just drop 20 bucks on an aftermarket cooler and OC that bitch.
Yeah my 2500k is still going strong, really great CPU, but IMO you're always better off buying the current or last generation of CPU/motherboard. Never older than that.
There are certain situations in which cost savings is the primary focus, but performance usually isn't a factor in those situations (ex: If you want to build your own hardware router).
Well i had the i7 860, and i never got close to peaking it.
i really cant see a reason to throw money at something ... cause.
I've recently built a new computer, and for the first month everything was working great with no hang ups. But as of two days ago I started getting resets, and on the bios screen on startup it said it was due to a power surge and it shut down to protect itself. I opened the case up to look for some source of the issue, no dice. So I plugged everything back in and what do you know, it died once again after about 3 hours in to playing a game. Except this time it seems to have taken out my graphics card as there seems to be no video out at all from it. Does anyone have any clues?
Were you overclocking anything?
No, nothing was overclocked. Here's a parts list
CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($334.98 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Thermal Compound: Arctic Cooling MX2 30g Thermal Paste ($21.73 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($198.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($334.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($249.00 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.24 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 3GB Dual FTW ACX Video Card ($519.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair RM 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($122.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($22.94 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($146.58 @ Newegg)
Monitor: Asus VH236H 23.0" Monitor ($146.58 @ Newegg)
And no critical system settings had been changed in the recent days leading up to me ultimately losing video. No programs either besides unigine heaven though I doubt that would have had anything to do with it.
All the video cards outputs have now been checked and no dice with any, the monitor is working though. Onboard video is not working as well. Though I don't know if I would have had to activate something to get that to work but I know all intel cpu's have onboard. So now on top of my gfx card not working(which now I'm not sure if it is or isn't) I'm now thinking it could be my motherboard or possibly CPU?
Alright, I'd recommend taking out everything non-essential.
Strip that system down to the basics: CPU, cooler, motherboard, 1x memory DIMM, both your HDD's should be fine to leave in, case, PSU.
Unplug the GPU, Optical drive, your other 3 x memory DIMM's, and your second monitor (just use one from onboard).
Try booting at that point, you may need to enter BIOS to enable the onboard GPU and GPU outputs instead of the discrete GPU. This should happen automatically when you take out the distrete GPU though.
If you can't even get into BIOS because there's no signal, you might be out a motherboard or CPU. Or worst case scenario you might be out a motherboard, CPU, memory, GPU, etc...
If you have another computer available to you that has similar componenets (ex: same socket motherboard, DDR3 memory, PCI-E motherboard, etc) then you can try all of the parts you have in that known-good system one by one to weed out what broke.
Not so sure that it's such a smart idea to keep testing with a PSU that potentially just fried his machine.
^This.
Get yourself a power supply tester or multimeter and check the plugs are kicking out the correct voltage and amperage.
A good PSU tester will tell you straight off the bat if something is wrong.
If it is throw the power supply away and get a new one, it's not worth risking blowing more parts.
Ok, I will pick up a PSU tester today. Also I have never had to go through a manufacturer to warranty computer parts. Would I blow my warranty if I mention I had these issues leading up to the failure or do you think they'd still take it?
Just tell them it stopped working and you have no idea why.
Once you identify the problematic component of course.
@Others: He mention power surges, those are usually not caused by the PSU, but by the electrical source. The PSU is likely what saved whatever components are left, but testing it can't hurt I suppose.
Tested the PSU, all good, though it is difficult to tell if it is really the case because it was an intermittent issue. and at one point one while testing the PSU something began to smell very... Burny... But I quickly shut it off and was unable to replicate the event later...
At this point I suspect the easiest course of action would be to complain to ASUS (mobo) and Corsair (PSU) to try and warranty them out/have them test them for functionality and then go from there. Maybe complaining it's hurting my business will quicken the process of RMA'ing them.
Anyone's opinion on these?
I'm trying to keep a hot AMD FX 8350 as cool as possible for the already hot days here, while on a budget.
http://www.amazon.com/Rosewill-Black.../dp/B003YVJJ5Y
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-..._cd_al_qh_dp_i
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-.../dp/B000O8JZIG
Giant HSF on motherboards has always bothered me. I like the closed-loop water cooling system I bought for my PC; idles a little high at 35, but under load it never breaches 50 and rarely goes above 47.
Oh, ok.
As a bit of a PSA announcement, if you're building a new computer, DDR 4 has an official launch date, and according to newegg crucial is the first stick brand to market. Obviously, it's really expensive right now but it does seem as DDR3 is on its way out.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...rder=BESTMATCH
how good is the DDR4 comparatively?
I've been doing trial and error to solve my PC problem. the only thing is i've had to buy the parts to do it ;(.
Next stop is either mobo, Ram or CPU which basically means i gotta do a full upgrade sigh.
so is the DDR3 worth waiting for?
According to the spec sheet DDR4's speed bottoms out right about where DDR3 tops out at, and consumes like half the power while allowing for 16 GB single sticks. It's hella expensive per stick right now though.
Other than that, I have yet to hear of any reviews. I assume arstechnica or techreport will have a benchmark for DDR4 as soon as it launches later this month.
Bandwidth increases, but latency also increases for these launch modules. It's a good thing for servers looking for higher density.
As always with RAM transitions, don't buy new things just because of new memory. If the CPU/mobo that you're looking at has a DDR4 chipset, get DDR4. The theoretical higher clockspeeds are nice, but they aren't exactly here yet at what would be considered a decent latency.
I really hope this is the reason why AMD hasn't released a new desktop FX processor in quite a while (hopefully building a new architecture behind the scenes with strong single threaded performance, etc). If that's the case I'd expect them to wait a bit for the prices to come down, while further improving their new architecture (if there is any). Just hope they don't drop out of the CPU/APU market.
The only good thing about the APUs are their GPU and HSA (that doesn't seem to be going anywhere).
Wouldn't that mean something new is in the works? I have a 8350 and it performs pretty good in heavily threaded tasks. It's the single threaded tasks that kinda suck. I would expect for them to atleast bring the APUs up to or very close to intel speeds.
Yeah, as soon as the die size per chip gets reduced for AMD, which GlobalFoundries (who makes the chips) i'm sure a new chip would be released. I, too, am hoping on an amd enthusiast chip but as long as they can't get the die smaller, they're kinda stuck. If GF had a 24 nm architecture up and running i'm sure AMD would still be competitive with intel. I'd even expect that their APU's would kick intel's integrated trash.
AMDs APU intergrated graphics already kick intels intergrated junk. The faster the RAM in your system the faster the graphics on the APU will be.
On Intel's side we should see DDR4 with X99 launching soon™
I'd probably go Intel if AMD doesn't show signs of releasing another (improved) enthusiast CPU by mid next year. Or at least having more cores on their APUs with much improved IPC and a few other things. Right now it seems the latest APUs gpu takes up about 47% of the chips die.
Plus, if HSF takes off as AMD hopes it would then that combined with a couple strong cores could scare intel.
Sorry for the double post but I need an opinion.
Will I really benefit much from going Intel (not getting anything below a 4770k) compared to my current system? Or would I benefit more in spending my money on a much better GPU?
FX 8350 (OC'd pretty significantly on air)
8GB of 1600MHz RAM, OC'd to the max the system will allow (1866)
Gigabyte 990FXA-UD3 Rev. 4
Gigabyte Geforce 750ti Windforce 2GB (doesn't draw power from just the PCI express interface like the original design)
750watt PSU
Games are more GPU limited nowadays than anything else. Wait a month and nab a GTX 870.
I'm just sitting here with my GTX 580. Man, I can't wait until I get to build my next computer.
Good idea on the video cards.
not enough gpus imo. good luck playing console port with those gpus lmao
Even in a joke build, you're still a fool to buy an extreme edition CPU. Especially if water cooling. That's how overpriced and dumb they are.
If anyone wants an r9 290 or full PC build, I'm trying to downsize my PC to be more portable. Will sell to you for bitcoin or cash. I don't trust paypal.
that's like 16 dollars zeph lol
R9 295 x2 going for a clean 999 - http://techreport.com/news/27014/rad...ice-cut-to-999
If you want to game at 4k resolution.... You'd be an idiot not to get this card.
GeForce GTX 900 series comes out this month so yeah...
at least you didn't actually make money on it and then lose it all in mt.gox pwnage
Righto boy's i'm cashed up, and i'm living the dream so it's time for a sick new puter.
I'm looking at the 4790k for a CPU however the brand new 5series has just came out, is it worth the wait? i wanna have something awesome up and running by christmas.
I'm also looking at doing an SLI setup by getting a second gigabyte 670, so i'd need a good motherboard and a good amount of ram to go with it. and i'm gunna go for 3 screen gaming
I stream from time to time as well, so would that have a big effect on waiting or not?
I'd go ahead and get a 5 series processor for quad channel support. DDR4 is still at the beginnings of the speeds it can reach, but you can find some motherboards that support DDR4-3000 and CAS at that speed is starting to drop. If you're wanting to stream seriously, go nuts and get an Extreme Edition for those extra two cores.
Have had zero issues streaming even the most intensive games using OBS with my Hexacore. Don't think the Octacore Extreme Edition is worth the money personally. And this is coming from someone that bought two TITANs.
If you have the disposable income, definitely get the 5 series setup for DDR4 but I'd stay Hexacore because of previous comment unless you are 100% sure that something you use your PC for could utilize 8 cores/16 threads that much more than a 6/12 setup.
Are those 2GB GTX 670s you plan to run? If so, you're going to run out of vram constantly when you run 3x screens [source: have 2GB GTX 670 in SLI ]
Replace that gpu with GTX 970 SLI or AMD 290 crossfire. The 290s are actually a really good deal with the price drops going under $250 each on sales.
Heres a link to 2 different system builds i'm looking at
4790k Build
5930k build
I already have one 4gb 760, so thats the main reason i was looking at another, because for bugger all i can get pretty good performance
Sure SLI will give you good performance, but it is only as fast as one 970 with an overclock. Just keep that in mind because SLI doesn't always work with new games at launch, or outright unsupported. ┐(゚∀゚)┌
so looking at that theres no major issues you guys can see for my setup?
computer is computer and either one will run anything out there. the 6 core will just last a bit longer in games with good multithreading support
So I'm thinking of putting my macbook pro up for sale. We'll say I get about $400 for it and I'll be willing to put in an additional $200 in something.
Now I don't have a mouse, screen, or ANYTHING anymore due to my previous move and older computer dying. So, I'm wondering if I could get a laptop that'll be worth my while for that price (good graphics card, enough to play Halo and maybe some video editing for fun would be nice)? Or should I just say screw it and go with plan B and get each part of a computer one piece a time (trying to budget)?