Seems normal to me. Welcome to the United States of America.
This was also in the South, where we're conveniently more "Merica" than everywhere else.
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Seems normal to me. Welcome to the United States of America.
This was also in the South, where we're conveniently more "Merica" than everywhere else.
Think of it like making the point so strong that the intended target audience won't ever think of crossing the line again.
And posting what is essentially slander about somebody is a little more than just a bruised ego. It means the child has zero respect for the parents at all, and that's an issue, especially when she doesn't seem to be thankful at all for the roof over her head, the food she has, or the fancy amenities she has access to. She likely lives in a larger, nicer house than I do. If she had an issue with people making a mess right after she cleaned, she could have grown up and talked about it in a civil fashion. From the sound of the dad and the letter, it appears that she just let all the anger build up inside and then vented it publicly to her friends.
Besides, we don't know what she's like outside of that Facebook post, but some of us here can take a pretty good guess because we've seen the type before, in meatspace.
Because I see no reason that it IS relevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Timo
Read the post I was responding to if you want to know why I'm talking about owning up.Quote:
Originally Posted by TVTyrant
-I understand the concept, but the extremity of a point is not strength. And taking something to the extreme can be viewed as compensation for weak leadership skills.Quote:
-Think of it like making the point so strong that the intended target audience won't ever think of crossing the line again.
-It means the child has zero respect for the parents at all
-From the sound of the dad and the letter, it appears that she just let all the anger build up inside and then vented it publicly to her friends.
-Besides, we don't know what she's like outside of that Facebook post, but some of us here can take a pretty good guess because we've seen the type before, in meatspace.
-No. Not only can you not know this, but there's also the fact that complaining about one thing does not cancel out respect earned for other things. She probably is thankful for the things she has. Actively? Probably not. I doubt she constantly thanked her parents for everything they did, nor should she have to. But if she feels a sense of loss for anything that was taken from her, then she wasn't taking it for granted.
-Seeing as how her dad put a full mag of .45 hollow points into her laptop just as a mere symbolic act, she probably had more than a few good reasons not to be "adult" and just talk to her dad up-front, even civilly. In fact the dad's symbolic act was far more childish than the girl trying to vent privately. (There isn't really such a thing as 'publicly, to friends only.' (Not that the dad should even care about her venting to her friends anyway.))
-Well since you can't judge her "type" from a single facebook post, how can you say you know what her type is irl?
Just because someone is materialistic doesn't mean they have respect for those give them said items.
I knew a girl who was that so far up her own ass that she would literally tear up shit just to get her own way.
The father here wasn't over reacting at all.
He found his daughter being disrespectful despite her parents efforts and now she has to face the consequences.
You don't bite the hand that feeds.
If feeding is the only thing it does.
That girl that tore up her own shit obviously wasn't grateful for it. She had no sense of loss for it. So she was ungrateful. Just like I said.
And I find that anyone who demands respect usually doesn't deserve it.
Considering the amount of effort and self sacrifice required for parenting I don't feel it's that much of a big thing to ask for a certain amount of decency and respect for your parents.
They are after all the ones who brought you into the world and for the most part been there for you all your life.
Some parents I agree aren't worth noting about but in this girls case, her parents obviously care about her and which direction in life she is taking.
If she hasn't taken heed on sorting her attitude out then something more drastic is required.
Maybe it's just my personal experiences that's giving me a different view on this but if you wish your closest and dearest away, one day they'll be gone and you'll regret for ever wishing your time with them away.
^ This is coming from Warlord who detests firearms by the way.
If this girl was any younger, maybe 8 or ten, she would have received a proper spanking. But since she's going on sixteen, this is the next best thing. Teenagers are stubborn, and it can take a lot to get a message through. We all know this.
the reason i was thinking it was extreme was only because of the last part with the shooting. thats more than a little intimidating. but, it can go both ways. either the girl will straighten up, or she'll turn into even more of a resentful bitch.
i have a sister this girl's age whos in kind of a crappy familial situation. she and my mom go at it a lot over chores, and she feels similarly to the girl who posted that shit on facebook. granted, my sister never posts about it, but its still similar. she doesnt have much of a reason to feel the way she does, because her reality isnt terrible. its not grand like that other girl's, but its not bad either. what is reality though (i promise, im not getting all philosophical here)? a person's perception of their life situation, no? so her reality is that some shit is wrong, and her situation is unjustified. is it in the "real" reality? no. the same clearly goes for the girl in the video.
teek is right, teenagers are stubborn, and their lives are dramatic. that goes doubly (re: triply) for girls. i think its fair to say this kid has some peer influence from school. anybody remember highschool? how many times a day did you hear a girl saying "ugn i hate my parents."? again, the objective reality is that they have no reason to hate their parents, but they think they do. so yeah, the video is obviously justified. this girl has a great life from the sound of it, and has no reason to think the way she does, let alone post twice about it. the father at one point mentioned that shes posted shit like this before. the message didnt sink in apparently.
so yeah, the video is justified, all the way to the father taking her laptop away and not giving it back, then posting the explanation video to her facebook page so all her friends know what happened. thats actually kind of brilliant. fuck her, she deserves that. she needs a reality check. the only part i take issue with is the father shooting the laptop, because then suddenly that introduces a whole new element into the scenario. that shows an ass-ton of pent up aggression, and it shows that the father cant (or doesnt want to) handle the situation any other way other than extreme intimidation. those kids on the girl's page who watch this video HOPEFULLY get the message about being respectful, and alter their perceptions on their realities; but at the same time, those kids are probably thinking "well shit, her dad's a little nutty too", because hes essentially saying "listen to me or ill shoot your shit". that could carry over to a few of the parents as well if they have something against firearms. i feel like he could have achieved the same level of emotion by doing something other than shooting the girl's laptop.
so yeah, tl;dr: video and posting totally justified, girls have a warped reality and therefore girl needs a reality check, but next time try something other than shooting stuff to get your point across.
actually, that^ is the entirety of my post, probably with the same level of detail. no wonder the paint is chipping off my keyboard keys.
Donut's got this right. Your gonna make a good Dad someday, my kitty faced friend.