Goldeneye 007 Xbox Live Arcade

I never liked Goldeneye. Maybe if I could download it and play it again, I'd enjoy it more. It'd probably be nice with new controls.

Yes, dual stick support instead of that weird bullshit.

And think of the multiplayer awesomeness.

Pooky...
IAWYP

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Originally Posted by Pooky

WHAT?

Don't be a damned idiotic Yahtzee fanboy.

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Just because I agree with one of Yahtzee's points doesn't make me a Yahtzee fanboy. Jump to whatever conclusions you want, but it made me say "lolwtf" when you said that because I've seen like three of his videos. I'm sure if you watch one you'll agree with SOMETHING that he says... which then automatically makes you an instant Yahtzee fanboy, rather than a person who's capeable of his own thought process.

By your logic, Heathen is a Pooky fanboy.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

Goldeneye might have laughable graphical and sound design, but it had those when it was new, and nobody thought less of it then. Just because a game is old, doesn't automatically make it unfun.

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I said that the game wasn't fun anymore because the controls were trash, then I repeated that in different wording twards the end to push that again so that people wouldn't get confused.

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Originally Posted by me

Sure, some games can be "timeless classics" but Goldeneye ISN'T one of them. Super Mario Bros, is timeless because the gameplay is still fun today, the graphics don't look atrocious, and the controls are just as good today as they were back then.

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When the game is a struggle to maneuver because of the shitty controls it makes the game lose it's appeal.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

e: And as for your new comments on SMB, that's hilarious. By your own Yahtzee fanboy logic, SMB should be inferior because games release since then (Super Mario 3, Super Mario World) are newer and therefore better.

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Wrong, the gameplay and controlls are basically the same. The older games don't lose their ability to be played because of some drastic gameplay alteration.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

Besides, you can't really call SMB's inability to go more than 3 feet left

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No, but things change over time. The fact that they made it possible to go left in the newer ones still barely changes the gameplay, but it changed it for a good reason. In the newer games the level design made it so going left is neccesssary, you don't ever need to go left in SMB1... so unless if you're somehow lost (hint... go right) there's no need or desire to go left...

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Originally Posted by Pooky

and horribly pixellated graphics up to current standards, can you?

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The main difference, is that they knew the limits on the NES, they knew what would be acceptable with what they had.

There's a reason why the Mario games always look pretty, it's because they don't try to make the system they're on do more than it can handle. Goldeneye tried to make realistic looking environments which end up making a lot of things look like a texturesmudge rather than a separate object.

Goldeneye controls aren't trash... they're not as good as dual analog sticks because you need to stop to have the dual-analog-stick aiming feel (press the R-button which turns movement into aim).

But by that logic the dual-analog-stick sucks because the Mouse and Keyboard is plainly much better.

Hence why cross-platform games need to give the gamepad players auto aim, and also cripple the mouse with mouse acceleration.

So yea... if the N64 controller sucks because the dual-thumbsticks are better... than the dual-thumbsticks suck because the mouse and keyboard are abundantly better.

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Originally Posted by Llama Juice

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By your logic, Heathen is a Pooky fanboy.

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I am.

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Originally Posted by Llama Juice

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Erm, I HAVE been playing Goldeneye off an on the last couple days, mainly as a result of reading the modding thread. I still don't think it's 'trash'.

http://www.llamajuice.com/h2v/pookyRep

Oh, wait... silly me. Instead of arguing points that were already brought up, let's bring more crap into the mix.

I get it fanboy Pooky. You don't understand how nostalgia changes how you look at a game.

Did you even read my rep btw? I said to look at the game through non nostalgic eyes. I know, it's hard. I had many good hours with this game as a youngin, my sister used to scream to my dad because I kept killing her because she was an easy target, it still makes me laugh today because of it. Lots of fond memories of stacking mines on people's faces.. but.. to accept the game for anything more than nostalgia fuel.. is just being ignorant.

Either that or your taste in games just fails misserably. If you think Goldeneye is a great game go play Yaris and give me your opinion on it.

Guys, keep your rep in your pants. I don't want to see it http://sa.tweek.us/emots/images/emot-colbert.gif

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Originally Posted by Llama Juice

I said to look at the game through non nostalgic eyes.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

Erm, I HAVE been playing Goldeneye off an on the last couple days, mainly as a result of reading the modding thread. I still don't think it's 'trash'.

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Originally Posted by Pooky

Erm, I HAVE been playing Goldeneye off an on the last couple days, mainly as a result of reading the modding thread. I still don't think it's 'trash'.

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Originally Posted by Llama Juice

I said to look at the game through non nostalgic eyes.

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Try again.

Then again... maybe "trash" was a little harsh. Let me rephrase that.

The game isn't worth being remade, or the attention that it is being given.