Microsoft bundling IE with windows deemed illegal by EU (IBM, Adobe agree)

I think that organizations should be putting more effort into forcing Microsoft to make IE follow standards than forcing them to keep IE out of Windows It's annoying as hell trying to make pages that work on both since you have to make custom styles for IE that fix all the broken shit in it's page rendering code.

IE8 is better but it still isn't perfect.

What's the point of having standards if the dominant browser disregards them?

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Originally Posted by Rook

There would be no reason to put all those random browsers on the disc, just the top 5 or something.

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I thought the whole problem was that these people feel IE has an unfair monopoly on internet browsing, since it comes installed with Windows. Adding more selection isn't fixing any problems. If you included the top 5 or so, the developers of browsers that -don't- get included could start causing a fuss.

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Originally Posted by jcap

What about iTunes? That comes bundled on every clean installation of OS X too.

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itunes came bundled with my HP computer thats running vista too.
sue mac, sue microsoft, sue cats, and sue small children.

The issue is old. Windows have already taken necessary steps to fix the dissatisfaction of the IE bundle for their customers.

http://windows7news.com/2009/03/06/e...-in-windows-7/

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Originally Posted by Phopojijo

Apple sells hardware... they have more legal rights. You can bundle software with hardware all you want.

Yeah bullshit, I know.

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Originally Posted by Donut

itunes came bundled with my HP computer thats running vista too.
sue mac, sue microsoft, sue cats, and sue small children.

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Having it put on by the manufacturer is different than selling the software with it bundled.

Apple does sell hardware, yes, but they also sell software. If you go to the store and buy OS X 10.5 Leopard and install it on your computer, it will come with iTunes and Safari and iChat and iMovie and so on...

So why does Microsoft get in trouble for doing the same thing...LESS than what Apple does, even? Fucking bureaucrat fuckwits.

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Originally Posted by jcap

Having it put on by the manufacturer is different than selling the software with it bundled.

Apple does sell hardware, yes, but they also sell software. If you go to the store and buy OS X 10.5 Leopard and install it on your computer, it will come with iTunes and Safari and iChat and iMovie and so on...

So why does Microsoft get in trouble for doing the same thing...LESS than what Apple does, even? Fucking bureaucrat fuckwits.

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Probably their argument is that it must be installed on an Apple PC according to their EULA.

That and lets face it, Apple gets a free ride because they're "the underdog".

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Originally Posted by SnaFuBAR

would be nice if the eurotrash couldn't get online i say.

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whoa hold up there

Wait what the hell is the point of this? I'm going to have to follow other posts when I say: Hahaha this is stupid.

I saw this and laughed. This is one of the stupidest things I've seen. I think EU will go negative after losing this case.lol.

I'm not really sure I understand what the problem is. I mean, it isn't as if people pay for browsers anyway :S? So what if it seems as though some people are being "tricked" into using IE or whatever.