Well it explains why you wouldnt be able to do any admin controls and possibly is the reason it crashes. It expects a string longer than is there.
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Well it explains why you wouldnt be able to do any admin controls and possibly is the reason it crashes. It expects a string longer than is there.
Well I added the c but it still crashed... IDK what the fuck I'm doing wrong.
It worked before last time I set it up but now it's not.
I didn't even hex anything this time.
Rec0's app is like this, it doesn't work because it's HORRIBLY unstable on home servers. Gameservers.com servers on the other hand seem to work quite a bit better, since that's where the app was designed to primarily work iirc. By the way, the "/p0" command works fine so disregard my last comment about it being effected by sv_players not working. Also, sv_players was broken by BrandiniMP, I take no responsiblity for this!!!
(mainly because I can't fix it)
So your saying I'm doing nothing wrong and I have horrible luck.
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by supersniper
NEED AN UPDATED EXECUTABLE HERE!Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
Requesting linked executable updated to 1.08, allowed special ASCII in server name, working sv_players, and new haloboom DDoS exploit fix! I'm sure everyone would be happy with that.
No copy protection removal or duplicate CD hashes allowed in the server though.
Also, do ME a personal favor and don't fuck up the console text with advertisements. /neatfreak
Can't you just use an updated 1.08 that fixes the DoS and use SAAP for the sv_say? Thats basically what the original setup was. I'm also assuming you want it to work with rec0s app.
... I just want this thing to work for me :(
Whenever I join my own server as admin, the whole thing crashes. Even the command prompt window closes. But when I join the server with me not added as an admin, it doesn't crash. 1/8 of the time it works w/o crashing.
Well here I made a little bat file so when it crashes it auto starts right after.
Abyll taught me a while back anyways here.
Code:chdir "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition"
:Begin
chdir "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Games\Halo Custom Edition"
start "Devicator" "haloceded_extended.exe"
start "Halo Console(1)" /D"./" /WAIT "haloceded.exe"
taskkill /im "haloceded_extended.exe"
GOTO Begin
Just wondering, wouldn't a hardware-firewall block this 'attack' ? Assuming it blocks DoS attacks, the vid only shows a local crash.
The attack works on non-lan servers. Generic firewalls won't pick it up as it is just a request to join so its only a small number of packets each time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vicky
Basically firewalls dont search for the activity that happens.
its not a DoS in the classic sense, typically a DoS is where you will bombard a server with requests so it will attempt to respond to app requests and get tied up, either crashing or just not responding to any other requests.
Whereas this attack does tie up resources, but using an exploit itsself.
think of it like this, getting stabbed once might not kill you, but it will slow you down, however getting stabbed 20+ times is more likely to kill you, because you're bleeding out alot more, however instead of blood, the server is bleeding packets into itsself.
Just so you all know, Rec0's app is incredibly unstable. This is the reason that it was never publicly released until AFTER the 1.08 patch was released. The [HIV] clan had the app on their servers for a long time on 1.07, but it wasn't released because it crashed so much.
so why does nobody work on a devicatorv2 DLL thats more stable, rather than keep working on this unstable app?
Sapp is getting close to having many of the same commands.
sapp is shit. period.
no offence termy ^^
It's not THAT bad. If you think his events system lags to much, maybe you could be nice and tell him why?
sapp could be good, but its very user unfriendly...
no name shortcuts, so you have to use the player number... you have to use actual coords to tele...
and many other commands that are just tedious to do...
I think it's easier then using rec0 for teleporting. You don't need to use actual coords to teleport.
You would put that in your init.txtCode:t add "teleporter name" x y z
Most commands you can just use player index's to do.
\pl = player index list. Not that hard using player index's.
\s 0 20 = would set player 0's speed to 20.
You've obviously never used Devicator...
What you've just said is even more difficult than rec0's app.
Set teleporter: /st jcap "teleport shortcut name" < adds location to my current position; no coordinates needed
/t jcap "teleport shortcut name" < teleports me to the shortcut that's specified in the database (_d)
Teleporting can also be done relative from your current position (/j jcap 10 20 50); or
teleporting can be done to absolute real-world coordinates (/t jcap 55 40 10)
No need for player indexes:
/spd jcap 20 < would set my speed to 20
/sc "jcap" j < sets my name as a shortcut to j
/spd j 20 < sets my speed to 20 with the shortcut
/spd j* 20 < sets speed of anyone whose name starts with j to 20
/spd j??? < sets speed of anyone whose name is 4 letters and starts with j to 20
There's no need to check the player indexes every single time you want to run a command or every time someone joins or leaves the server.
Yes, I have used it before. I still think it's easier to use player index's then typing in names. That looks more complicated that just typing \pl and \t # teleporter name or \t # x y z.
lol... wow.
So, typing "/t red_base Limi*" is harder than having to get the players id which is a seperate command, than typing the teleport command using x,y,z and adding the player index. What you smokin???Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
If you already have the location saved. You don't have to type the x y z in.
\t 1 red_base
Fair enough that cuts out one step but it still leaves having to get the players index and then using the teleport command.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
rec0 is 100% more efficient.
Depending on the name, typing the name in could be slower then getting the player index.
It's not like it takes that long to type in \pl.
they're both unstable, however SAPP lags because in his eventsystem, terminator is POLLING for changes, anyone who is a coder will know that POLLING for changes is looping through data waiting for a change, this is using up resources, however the better way would be to hook actual functions that are fired on an event, obviously this can cause problems when you have a big event, however using the event system is sapp will cause more problems as it is in a seperate thread and that will cause memory r/w conflicts.
hence rec0's app is the better choice for now.
Then hurry up and finish your server app...
Also, kinda sad that we were fighting about what server app lets you be more lazy.
Try out Abyll's server app if you want, it's better than SAPP but I still don't think it's quite as good as the Devicator. The thing that sets the Devicator apart from most of the other server applications is the fact that it uses a database to store information. Which lets you use name shortcuts and such, the ability to use player names as opposed to <playerindex> also helps a lot.
abylls is still only a local server app. right?
Right, it won't work on Game Servers yet I don't think.
Abyll's app doesn't hook on my haloceded.exe ... I follow the readme but it just doesn't work :/ even though I tested for him ever since he started working on it, IT confuses me so.
Apps are evil and keep dying :(
:( the updated download (edit: ) link doesn't seem to work.. can someone fix it, or give me the file itself, please?
Also, I'm gonna resume work with my superapp; I think I'm going to put it into Open Sauce, to make it work easier & whatnot, but I'll have more news later, if any. For now, I'm taking the roll of tech support on the new zombie server, run by Thrawn for ZHU.
The updated version that I posted works perfectly fine.
Oh yes i did all of the things in the instructions. Now wat am i supposed to do. open the original haloceded or the one in the homeservers folder that i uploaded? and wat about the other things like strings.dll or sapp.dll?
what?
All of the stuff in the .zip folder goes into your Halo Custom Edition root directory. And you overwrite the dedicated server .exe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Abyss
How am i supposed to overwrite the original halo ceded?
CopyQuote:
Originally Posted by Abyss
Paste
Are you sure you want to overwrite? [Yes]
Ah ok. Where am i supposed to find the cd key hash?
To find your CD key hash, you need need to check your log files. Delete any existing log files in the Halo CE profile folder and start your server. Then join your own server. When you open the log file, you should see an entry that has your alias, and then there should be a string 32 random characters in length (example: 9e107d9d372bb6826bd81d3542a419d6) which will be your hash.
i don't know how you can stand answering all these questions that seem so obvious.
yah no kidding, especially when its all covered very clearly in the 1st post/readme.
We're very patient people.
:downsgun:
Ok Bacon looks like i didnt put much attention to the first post. yes i am a noob with all these server applications so u dont need to be bullshitting to me
Well, maybe you should try reading the file called "readme" before asking questions that have already been answered? You brought the bullshitting on yourself by demonstrating your impatience and/or ignorance... Also, you don't upload the root contents of the rar anywhere, you extract the contents of the folder you need (game servers or home servers) and then upload.
I did all of that (yes i reread the readme Freelancer for like the 10th time) The only problem that i have now(if anyone can solve it) is that the haloceded server closes whenever i try to join the game server. Yes, i opened haloce_extended but idk whats happening.
Your not the only one with that problem.
Oh yes chris what problems are u having? me and jcap finally found out what was wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
yeah you were an admin and it crashed when you joined.
For it not to crash have someone else that's not an admin join first then you can join freely whenever you want without it crashing.
Or just wait a really long time.
there you go problem solved.
Ok guys, i apologize for being an idiot and i will post a new set of instructions regarding the problems that some people like me are having/had tommorow :D it will include the original post by Bacon with a few added things Look for it tommorow
:D:D:D:D:D
Well, I guess that sorta fixes it. Although I'm running it off the same computer I'm joining with, so normally people tend to lag until I'm in my server...
You make it seem like such a big deal :lmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Abyss
To make it less laggy open up taskmanager and close any unwanted/unnecessary tasks running in the background.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
I also suggest you download delagonator form halomaps as to it helps with fps lag a bit. Another thing is that you want to leave the default ports for the dedi and switch the ports for halo ce in your profile settings area (network connections)
That should fix it and have the players be less laggy.
Also visit here this will let you know the limits on how many players can be in your server.
To test your upload speed visit speedtest.net.
I hope this helps your problems.
1. Download the Devicator app from the 1st post by Bacon.
2. Extract the Winrar file that applies to you (homeservers if youre running it from home).
3. If you have MDB viewer or Microsft Access, open up the _d and go to the database and input all of your information(ie, cdkeyhash, Name, and ip address).
4.After you do that, save the file and overwrite the original haloceded in the halo ce file directory with the homeservers contents.
5. Ok, now here you run haloceded and then run haloceded_extended and then run haloce.Try joining your own server.
6. Many people have had this problem. The Server crashes whenever they join. Ok, like Frost said, either let someone join the server first thats not an administrator or you need to download the new version of haloceded with less crashes.
7. After you download it, replace the old haloceded and delete sapp.dll because you wont need it anymore.
Hope this solves all your problems!!
«RW» Âßݧ§
update
fixed the crash on join shit :D
will post more later, gotta go to a family party.
Friggen post the damn update!!!!!!!!!
post
you owe me
Lol bacon ok yea for some reason i stil cant join it. jcap said it probably lingers in the background when the app starts but we couldnt figure it out.
wat
So...
You going to post the update?
im having trouble installing it i dont have a init.txt file how do i get it and when i run the dedicated server from the start menu it said it cant load the cache or it failed to load can you post howto for ppl who are not that good on the computer as you bacon bc im having touble understanding you i got the data base thing ifne but the first part i was huh what do they mean by init.txt or can you send me somethin or post something that would be great
Welcome to the forums.Quote:
Originally Posted by YinYang
I hate to be a nag, but could you please at the very least punctuate your sentences? I can't make sense of your post.
help?Quote:
Originally Posted by YinYang
If it says it cant find the profile, dont worry just wait for it to continue loading.Quote:
Originally Posted by YinYang
You have to make an init.txt, look on Halo Maps for a guide how to make one.
Yea guys I fixed the problem. It was really obvious when it got solved.Ok, if you're running this on Vista, turn of UAC(User Account Control) and restart your computer. The just follow the steps to turn on the app and thats it! It worked for me!
=CE= Âßݧ§
That shouldn't effect it at all. My Halo CE folder is set to full control for normal users. Plus, that is probably one of the worst things you could do to make your computer less secure.
They stuck me in an institutionQuote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
Said it was the only solution
To get me the needed professional help
To protect me from the enemy, myself...
Haiku?
No one with half a brain uses UAC since you can accomplish the same level of security with a firewalled router, good anti-virus software, and common sense. I don't need a quadruple checking pop-up just to do things that couldn't possibly be malicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
hth
On an on-topic,
I've been talking with Game Servers staff specifically about the Devicator recently. Even though technically it's against Game Servers TOS (since you modify the server files) they don't seem to care. I've gone into detail with them about how it works in order to get it working again, ever since I switched my server from Seattle - Chicago the Devicator has only worked for 10m~ after the game starts. It then stops working but the game continues on, so I'm getting the Game Servers staff to check out the box my server is on.
Either way, I was talking to one of my old buddies that used to work Game Servers technical support and he said that if an issue arises, tell them I modified my own files and uploaded them to their server. That way I never actually "modified" their server files...
hth
Eh? I thought pretty much everyone turned off UAC (other than the very casual users, that is).Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
Turning off UAC seems a bit far. I just set any folders that I modify a lot (like the Halo Custom Edition folder) to have full control by normal users.
UAC is pointless unless you get viruses and related things.
Wow, that's just so much more work than needs to be done...Quote:
Originally Posted by chrisk123999
http://forum.halomaps.org/index.cfm?...&topicID=28700
Yea i found this is my search.
Dennis make a great point on that thread.
Quote:
--- Original message by: Dennis
This is the worst thing you can do. It turns off ALL security and lets you run in the administator context. I hate it when people recommend this. It shows how little they know about the operating system.Quote:
--- Original message by: chuckluck
Go to start, click on control panel, user accounts and family safety, User accounts, Turn user account control on or off. turn off UAC, then restart you're computer then try again.
You just need to either run the game - for that one time- as administrator or download the update from the website and follow the instructions. Turning off all security is just plain stupid.
meany other Os don't have it and don't need it
its rather pointless for advance users.
-e your point is invalid, UAC doesn't prevent much
It stops any programs from doing a lot of damage. If it needs to be approved by UAC and I click no, it can't do anything. But if UAC was off, it would do it without me being able to stop it.
Just get KIS 2010.
then just edit the registry so the trial is unlimited :D
wait whah?
lol but yeah UAC is very important.
It may not seem like it but it is.
No it's not, not if you're an advanced user... If you actually know your way around a computer and the internet there's absolutely NO need WHATSOEVER for UAC to be enabled.
I'd rather have it on and not need it, then have it off and needed it.
It's up to the user, so that's fine.
But I don't need it, ever.
Hey, update the build of the dedi to match the new dedi.
(Also, do the same magic to this that was done to the "revised" 1.08 app. You know, the tweaks that fix the sv_say command and make sapp unnecessary.)
shit post edit
Hello, will this be updated soon as possible, or just overwrite the newer of termy's SAPP?
Cheers
I wouldn't count on an update of this for awhile, especially since there are a couple other apps in development specifically for 1.09.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexgodcool
Depending on the type of update he's looking for, I thought there was already a 1.09 version update released (unless I dreamed it). If he's looking for an actual full version update to the Devicator source code, then it's highly unlikely that would happen and you'll probably see Synapse before then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
Also, what the hell is in development for 1.09 servers?
Yea, he also sent me a PM saying that he'd announce the server app and the servers running the beta version on Modacity this week...
There's also BMP's app if he's still working on it.
And I still have hope that Synapse will eventually come to be...
uh..
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
prometheus :santa:
That's not a server app though, it's an everything app.Quote:
Originally Posted by blind
And as far as im aware would not need an update every time halo was updated
Correct :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Freelancer
To give a small update to everyone at modacity:
I've tested it on a haloPC server. One minor bug found, but also a rather big one. This bug is being fixed at the moment. Once it's fixed testing will continue and I'll put it on your server so you can also test.
(The bug only happens under very rare conditions. But if it does happen, the results could be ugly. It's something I want to fix first.)
well geo, i've been waiting on imega since i first heard about it.
can't believe it's almost going to be released
cant wait.
awsome! how soon you will release it? include beta or RC?
Can't wait! X)
From what I understand, it's going to be beta tested on a few servers that Omega will pick. Users can try out the publicly available features on those servers, and server administrators on those servers can try out the restricted commands. After that's proved the apps stability Omega will move into public releases and whatnot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alexgodcool
There is no "set-in-stone" time line, as is the case with almost all anticipated user created stuff for Halo.
Ok, you can use mine server, name "RPG Forever!"
and which servers he did picked?, i could going in those servers..
and Happy Thankgivings!
lol ^
also hiv server.