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When you've got source scripts, just about anything can gets changed.
Speaking of swords, and in Halo 2 swords had a limited energy in campaign...will the sword for this have energy, and then turn into the deadly handle of no energy?Quote:
Originally Posted by Archon23
if its gonna be halo 2, will kenny001's dual wielding script be put in this?
Ah thats a good question. Duel wielding. I think that, that script would work well with it.
If they did dual wielding it would probably be buggy. and i hope that the wieldable swords have very little ammo. they make it to easy.
amazing. i think i need to +rep himQuote:
Originally Posted by p0lar_bear
true. i think they should just leave dual wielding out of it. its not really that "amazing" anyways. WOW I HAVE 2 HANDS! I WONDER IF I CAN PICK UP 2 GUNS! OMFG THIS IS SO CRAZY!! :XD:
Also i like maps of this quality not to have weird glitches. Especially ones that would directly effect the game play... or my sniper rifle ammo....
One of the biggest thing that bothered me in Halo 2 was that it didn't feel complete. It felt rushed, because it was. Take your time, please.
You did play his test dual wielding map right? It's not buggy and it works just fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclad
where can I find that map?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedMetroid
1. Will not work with weapons dropped from dead characters. (Majority of weapons)Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedMetroid
2. Does not retain ammo.
Not map, script. You have to use it with HMT I believe. :eyesroll:Quote:
Originally Posted by NeiaG
you compile scripts with Sapien... HMT doesn't support scripting.... or Halo CE without hex editing.
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:fail: :maddowns:
No, no no no no never HMT with CE. You use a .hsc file in your tags\levels\mapname\scripts folder.
Actually he did put up a download of a map with a few weapons examples, the download no longer works however. Please get your facts straight.Quote:
Originally Posted by 343guiltymc
Even the suckiest videocards have wraiths and ghosts as purple, the diffuse is purple.
On a completely different, more ontopic note: I seriously hope you're going to animate the scarab instead of putting AI in it. Halo 3's scarab vehicle was great for AI, but that scarab from extinction (I don't know if your scarab is completely new or a revamp of extinction's) had stupid walking animations.
Will you have a preset path like Halo 2?
this campaign looks quite promising.
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Originally Posted by MNC
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Originally Posted by CtrlAltDestroy
Thanks for that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Archon23
I would even enjoy a 15 second vid. of the scarab fight.:worship:
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Originally Posted by rossmum
good god take a chill pill. no need to freak about something that is completely imaginary anyways
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K.
What the shit?
Rossmum was compeltely right, I think YOU need to take a chill-pill because YOU were trying to argue the point. Now I need to take a chill pill. Thanks alot.
flamingrain, he brought back a post from PAGES ago, he clearly doesn't know when to stop caring. and your just instigating it more, seriously frain, i don't know what this sudden rage thing is about, because we were friendly just a few days ago, but stop it already. shit
his internet was down all weekend due to a screwy modem and he wanted to express his opinion on a previous post. He posted that on the 24th, its now the 26th, why criticize someone for doing just about the same thing your doing? Lets end the pointless posts here. Keep it on topic.
YOU're going on about it with that very post.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclad
if you want to drop the arguement, STOP FUCKIGN ARGUING IDIOT!
simple.
dont mention it again, if you don't want to look like a total dumbass.
yes, sorry about that, i was trying to end it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Choking Victim
but in the ON topic discussion about the scarab, if it is going to be scripted scenery, will it be destroyable? i think it would be really cool to have a scarab running around on AOTCR and maybe have a longsword drop and bomb it. and if you do that, maybe a blue screenflashing damage effect or lense flare or something? that would make it like h3's explosion (maybe, im no effects master)
if you make it driven by AI, it would kind of be sad to watch it bump into walls and shit
Well it's perfectly possible to have a Scarab walking around on AOTCR but having a londsword drop a bomb on it then have an explosion blow it up might be abit difficult.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclad
Well they are having the POA crash but then again this raises the question......where would the Longsword come from? I mean the POA was the only ship there and its kinda ruined yah know.
plus, there's little room to fly a LS in those canyons, let along a scarab.
This is turning into something like the threads in the CMT section
=O
/me takes cover in a bomb shelter
There were pelican drop ships too, mister. :eng101:Quote:
Originally Posted by Archon23
Still, a longsword bombing run would be really out of place :\.
yeah i suppose so. but it would be cool to see.
Wow! Looks sweet.
Yeah, Longsword bombings only occur when defending Earth cities. The humans aren't attacking Halo, they just happened to land on it. (go watch the Halo 2 Demo from E3 2004, instead of a scarab, it was a giant scarab turret that got bombed by two Longswords and got destroyed in a big esplozion!)
actually, what would be really cool if there was a longsword/serpha fight going on as you come out from the cartographer :O!
ross, what is with this attack on me? im going to take tweeks advice and drop this, i suggest you do too, PM me if you have some other comments towards me. and that bombing comment, was just my opinion, its not like im trying to take control of this mod or anything
You're a non intellectual person, thats why. Think before you post. Almost every single post in this thread by you has contained some form of stupidity and poor reasoning.
this thread isnt about me. god damn, PM ME IF YOU WANT TO FLAME ME SO I CAN HAPPILY IGNORE IT
Anyway, will there be and additional encounters? Like an addition of a fight to the crashed PoA? Awesomeness could ensue if made epic enough.
^or perhaps you have to do some flying (and shooting) to escape on keys?Quote:
Originally Posted by Boba
that would be cool but frustrating
well tbh, I think a little more flying action would be really cool.
Then go pick up a copy of Ace Combat 6. :-3
actually that would be awesome. Except change longsword with pelican and seraph with banshee so it actually makes sense with the storylineQuote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
"We are taking heavy fire and are losing altitude!"
it would make sense actually, i mean theres one flight-fight in h2 and one in h3, but none in halo 1... i don't see why it couldn't be arranged, even by a nooby modder... *opens sapien* :DQuote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
Do pelis have chainguns in their backs now?
Fixed that for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ironclad
Yes, sir.Quote:
Originally Posted by huerosam
wheres the aerial battle in halo 1? i suppose you could say those moments when you fly a banshee in aotcr count, but theyre not really epic like the fights in the second and third game...Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedMetroid
You can get the banshee twice that I know of in assault on the control room, and have one pretty much through most of two betrayals. I highly prefer the use of the banshee in Halo 1 to the set piece encounters in Halo 2 where you pretty much were forced to use it. Besides, banshee fights in Halo 2 SP are boring.
Ah; except the Arbiter.
It's better because it has Follow.
...You are such a whore with that game. It should be called Ace Teekup Sex.Quote:
Originally Posted by =EP_T33KUP
fuck I would buy thatQuote:
Originally Posted by DrunkenSamus
Mono even got the gun out when he first rebuild the death island map with a pelican... Good times, good times...Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
I'm sorry...what? How are Halo 1 banshee fights better than Halo 2?Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedMetroid
In Halo 2, the gun is actually ACCURATE!! OMG NO WAY! Plus Follow ftw.
That'd be cool if they changed the music in Two Betrayals where you're running around in a banshee to Follow, instead of whatever that other crappy music is. Wait...what exactly IS being changed in this campaign.
So far I know, weapons, textures, scripts, vehicles, what about music?:confused:
Music? Peanut Butter Jelly time. Thats it. That's all this campaign needs.
Well, duh.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
But strategically it's not very useful, that's why I want tha Halo 2 pelican.
sounds pretty usefull, can lay down surpression fire while flying in, and then drop off troops, and then lay down some more surpression fire.
OMG you're right! Getting sniped from 300 feet away by a banshee you can't even see and dying in under a second and a half is fun! Not to mention how utterly realistic 2 heavy guns with no aim error at al is!Quote:
Originally Posted by ODX
By plasma? The guns on the banshee are accurate yes, but like most covenant weapons, as slow as hell. There's no way you can get accuratly hit by a banshee from that distance, let alone killed in a second and a half. Also, modern weapons nearly always fire straight, inaccuracy is usually based on the fact that people can't aim their weapon at the target during sustain fire, however, on a machine, you don't need to worry about recoil effecting accuracy, seeing as the machine will keep it straight on every shot. So technically, the guns on the banshee and ghost in H2 & 3 are more realistic than the guns in H1.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedMetroid
straight* :eng101:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
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:raise:
I'm not willing to read every single post for thirty pages, so don't blame me if this has been asked before. Are we going to have an Assult Rifle in here? I know its a Halo 2 mod, but without the AR, Halo just isn't the same any more.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy
Without the AR, it's a halo 2 mod. It wouldn't be halo anymore because it's not halo. :downs:
You know what I meant.
WOAH ROSCO YOU JUST BLEW MY MIND
You've never played Halo 2 on Legendary have you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
Not always. And you have no idea at all how plasma rifles work. Nobody does.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
Especially considering the fact that wind and the vehicle's velocity have no affect whatsoever. Oh wait.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
I've beaten it.Quote:
Originally Posted by FriedMetroid
Any form of matter being propelled need force to drive it.Quote:
Not always. And you have no idea at all how plasma rifles work. Nobody does.
<~~~~~~~[plasma] <---------|
Travels [][][][][][][][][][]Force
Now, in a way your right. We don't know how covenant weapons work, however, it still needs to be propelled a far distance at high speed, at a high temperature. The above model would have a very small recoil, however, to get all of the above you would likely need a very strong driving force. This would easily be generated by an explosion, and is likely the most efficient way. So the above model is possible, but if your trying to get an energy efficient weapon, not a good idea.
However, an explosion would generate a back blast, and would have recoil. So the all of the heated plasma would be pushed into that electric thingamabober, current would be sent through that, causing an explosion which would propel the plasma in any given direction.
<~~~~~~~~[Plasma]<----------->
Travels[][][][][][][][][][]Explosion
However, there is no barrel on the weapon, and the fact that an explosion would propel the plasma in a random direction. So this also doesn't make much of a weapon seeing as rounds are flying everywhere. That is unless the covenant have some kind of way to stop that.
Now, here is the most plausible explanation. Magnetic fields. Plasma can be contained in a magnetic field, and would be much more accurate. The blue thingamabober at the end of the gun could likely have a negative field preventing the bolt from going up, down, backwards or sideways. Instead the bold would have no option but to go forward, and depending on how strong the field is, it would go at an appalling rate. Like this.
[][][][][][][][]-- Field
<~~~~~~~~~| Field
Plasma [][][][]-- Field
It would have no recoil, and would explain why the covenant guns are 100% accurate when placed on vehicles.
The velocity wouldn't change anything, the shots would be grouped together yes, but would all go straight. The only thing that would change that would be weather conditions, and objects moving at that speed wouldn't be that effected.Quote:
Especially considering the fact that wind and the vehicle's velocity have no affect whatsoever. Oh wait.
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Very well done!
It looks convincing to look like halo 2 in some parts :]
Keep up the fantastic work.
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Originally Posted by Flyboy
It might show up in SP. And also Flyboy, please don't post long unrelated posts, in all honesty, people don't care because it doesn't matter. The same thing with the issue on the color of covenant technology. Just keep on subject, I don't want to see this topic turning into another spamfest like the PB2 topic.Quote:
Originally Posted by CtrlAltDestroy
What about the Flamehog? ;d
Lol, I think leet meant H2 content with maybe some H1 content sprinkled in, but not any user created content like the flamehog.Quote:
Originally Posted by Boba
THINK OUTSIDE THE BOX AND PINK FLOYDQuote:
Originally Posted by Boba
I'll post what I want. In the end, ya, it doesn't matter, but his claim "I have no idea how covenant tech works" makes me want to respond. I'm not going to just sit back and take it.
This is Zteam's topic, not yours.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
I never said you had to sit back and take it. Use PMs and don't clutter up this topic with nonsense. End of discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
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Originally Posted by Hurrvish
Cant wait till a release :)
I bet your one of the people who cry "banshee whore" when people are good with shee's arn't you :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
learn to lead. it's a required skill to use any fighter aircraft well.
Trying to lead with vehicles is harder than using your hand held weapons, ya know.
no it's not >_>
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Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
Using a banshee is really easy, tbh. <_<
Also, does need moar flamehog. :3
Maybe only in levels with the flood (e.g. c40), though.
flamehog is fun, except you really can't use it facing forward in a moving vehicle. It's also not good for SP, because you either need an AI driver or an AI gunner. Neither are preferable.
if the flame went in an arc it would be much more useful; so much that when firing ahead you could clear the hog
^.
I'd really love a flame hog :3
You'd have to be careful or you might end up flaming yourself if you drove too fast, lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by huerosam
(Though I imagine good testing and tweaking could make that unlikely.)
well if the straight flame doesn't really hurt you i doubt an arcing one would.
Oshi- I forgot how much the AI sucks. :gonk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Conscars
WUT NOE KUSTOM DISSINTUGRAYTAWR AWR FLAYMTWOWUH?!?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by ShadowSpartan
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Originally Posted by huerosam
If you just barely escape setting yourself on fire just by igniting the vehicle's immediate path with a straight-firing trajectory, how the fuck would having the projectile dip back to the ground make it safer? Crackheads. >_>Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
well, this might not sound wise, but couldnt you just copy the flame projectile and damage effect and make the flame shot by the hog not damage metal? that way it could still strike the hog but not damage the drivers. im not 100% certain that would work though, because the flames could still touch the driver or passenger(but would that damage them? being inside the hog might allow this to work), and it would be annoying not to be able to damage other vehicles
it would arc over the hog so you wouldn't get hit :downs:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dole
That's retarded. You obviously don't understand the concept of an arc. (hint: it arcs (hint: 'arc' means it changes flight path and turns DOWNWARD (hint: DOWN is this direction | (hint: the hog is this direction | ))))Quote:
Originally Posted by n00b1n8R
.......................................V..........................................V
What the hell do you not understand?
Making it in a arc will perform the SAME THING as the shooting it straight out. Look at it this way:
Hog = >
Flame = Line
(too lazy to [ninja] the dots.)
Frame 1
.../.\
../...\
/>....\
Frame 2
.../.\
../...\
/.>...\
Frame 2
.../.\
../...\
/..>..\
Frame 3
.../.\
../...\
/...>.\
Frame 4
.../.\
../...\
/....>\
Frame 4
.../.\
../...\
/.....\
.......>
UH OH
DIRECT HIT
WEAPON DESTROYED.
ummm whatever that means ^^
but if it arc'd "over" the hog, then youd still have to go through the descending flames to move forward
Wait why exactly are we discussing how or how not a flame hog which shoots flames in an arc would hit the hog or not?
I thought this thread was about a Halo 2 mod or something........
It is. It's the little things that can drive you away from the main purpose of the thread. That's how a good conversation between people goes.
and to hit anything infront of the hog you'd aim up and over the hog.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dole
aiming parralel to the hog, the flames spread out and hit you (even if it is just a little). aiming over, the flames still get there but they don't come close enough to you to hurt.
you're still talking like plasma would be affected by atmospheric conditions the same exact way as plasma. The word plasma is used for a lot of different things even here in the real world, you have no idea how it would be affected by friction or wind, and the velocity of a vehicle is sure as hell going to have an affect on the trajectory of something fired from it. Not to mention in The Arbiter the banshee is flying through the atmosphere of a gas giant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Flyboy
And I doubt you beat it.
If you're having it fire over the hog, you could drastically increase the range, so that blobs land well away from the warthog's immediate area. (You'd probably have to tweak damage and whatnot, of course, to keep it balanced)
A flame hog would only work effectively on flat ground. If there are small hills then the flames would engulf the hog.
Hmm... Perhaps make the flames longer? That way, the flames would fly over the driver's head and in front of the hog, killing anything the driver was about to splatter (Heh heh), but not hurting the passenger or driver.
Please dont get this locked, I am looking forward to this mod alot.