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Originally Posted by Inferno
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Wo wo wo.. Come on guys.. peace. You guys are in the same yoyov2 credit room, we're a family lol.
Anyway, there's no point bout fighting bout OS, the idea was intesresting but it's too late, means more work/time, potential complications etc... I really want the map released as soon as Ferno fix my last list of stuff... it's half done.. tomorow we finish.. Test hopfully.. and its done.
Inferno, please dont bitch about things which you have no idea about, you cant even work out your own problems. (I told you, way before you worked it out that it was player index, yet you denied it was the problem in your script, which you later oh so suddenly had some kind of apifiny and relised it was the player index. Shadow told you months ago you needed to replace the syncing bipeds to reduce lag, did you listen? Nope.
You wouldnt even listen to chris, until yoyo begged you to listen to chris's idea.
I have never had a single issue with OS and yoyov2, I have had my build of the DLL in my directory ever since I started working with OS, so dont assume its OS.
I agree with Yoyo, adding OS now would be too late and it will get confusing, plus infernos the one adding to the map.
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I'm sorry Yoyo, but I've completely lost interest in Yoyorast Island V2, I'm sad to say it, I've been a fan since HM topic with those funky coloured pieces of geometry with the red lines showing the directions, I've stuck with you Yoyo through thick and thin, I used to LOVE reading the development threads, the idea and the map was always close to my heart, its nothing you have done, its the rest of the yoyo v2 team that have put me off the map. Yoyo enjoys making the map, hes so passionate about his work, the rest of the team bitches and struggles, and I really question whether they have enjoyed it or see it as a burden.
Just think limited.
If ferno hadn't sat on his ass while yoyo was away this would have all be done 3 weeks ago.
i just wish yoyorast would learn the hek and do it himself, i never really understood why he hasn't . its fuckin easy.
He has a job? He only models? That's something for him to decide. He's provided a good map before this same way so it doesn't really matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by StankBacon
AAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRGG!!!!! Not you Limited!!! Dam this hurt :gonk:Quote:
Originally Posted by Limited
I was very touched by all your encouraging posts.. it's like my long time supporter leaving... But you been there the biggest part of the way.. so that's good, thks for that man. And I understand those loosing interest, it's been so much time now...
I only hope that you'll find some interest in playing it a bit maybe when it'll be done... cause I sometimes have my doubts about how is enjoyable it will be in terms of gameplay... but tests after tests, I really end to believe peopel can have so much fun in it... It's just an update of V1 afterall but I'm so bored in V1 since long time.. and I enjoy so much playing V2.. time will tell. :downs:
When its out, the magic will be rekindled Yoyo dont worry.
I'm hoping rams will come back and play it too, same with Digi but I dont think he'll turn up. Its been a rollercoaster Yoyo, some of my best friends IRL I've know less than the whole Yoyorast Island experience but most importantly we had a blast. I've had fun, you've had fun modeling it and then testing it. I must have been around the map a thousand times in the gunner seat with you driving around.
I love the map, I love the dynamics of the gameplay and I feel v2 has really harnessed that and added so much more. So keep up the good work.
HEY GUYS, YO YO WANTS YOU TO READ OUR CHAT:
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[18:20] dÆd: Hey YoYo
[18:21] dÆd: So I wat thinking....
[18:21] dÆd: *was
[18:21] yoyorast: ye?
[18:21] dÆd: That you should have someone compile YoYoV2 with Open Sauce, simply for a concept and see if it works.
[18:22] yoyorast: man , the map will be done in a few days
[18:22] yoyorast: this idea means 2 more weeks
[18:22] dÆd: I guarantee I could do it in 2 days.
[18:23] yoyorast: ye well and then lets deal with the problems for 2 weeks
[18:23] yoyorast: they all told me, comeon put the back pack in
[18:23] yoyorast: they did
[18:23] yoyorast: it fucked everything
[18:23] dÆd: This is different than the backpack.
[18:24] dÆd: The backpack messed up scripts. Because it was scripts.
[18:24] yoyorast: anyway, Im not sure this bout the interest of it in da map
[18:24] yoyorast: in race for example
[18:24] yoyorast: and I prefer simple gameplay
[18:24] yoyorast: each team in their own hog and lets race
[18:25] yoyorast: you know its already hard sometimes to get people to race
[18:25] yoyorast: so if you offer them the ability to fight for a new reason, they'll race even less
[18:26] dÆd: OS just adds MTV it doesn't change that much gameplay...
[18:26] dÆd: I mean it's enough that there are no cons
[18:26] dÆd: Well it outweighs the cons
[18:26] dÆd: Here, if you let me, I'll get the current build up in 2 days without errors, then we can test the gameplay.
[18:26] yoyorast: ye ye but Im talking about MTV
[18:27] yoyorast: plz dont dazer, it's going to be confusing with this library to add and all
[18:27] yoyorast: tomorow we test the last build, if its good , I'll release
[18:27] yoyorast: its too late
[18:28] dÆd: That's fine, but I think you'll be missing out on new gameplay elements. Another thing: You can turn off MTV per gametypes
[18:31] yoyorast: In my opinion good gameplay doesn't mean adding features.. that doesn't necessary make good gameplay... its like the maps full of custom weapons... that doenst make them more enjoyable or playable than classic ones
[18:34] dÆd: Okay. Well, if you'll let me, I propose this: You send me the current scenario and tag files for YoYoV2, and if can get a build up in before the release date you were intending, we have a test run for Open Sauce enabled. Then you can decide whether or not to go with it.
That also means that if OS doesn't work right away you can just release the normal version.
[18:39] yoyorast: Dazer Im begginf you to forget.. this is bad idea.. once you'll have this version done.. half the guys around will tell yay.. and I'm sure its going to be discuss even more than it is right now.. and eventually, I dont know how there'll be 2 version in the end or something like that.. witch is somthing I really doooooooooooooon't want... once again, if this is a so good idea, why is it coming so late... it's not that interesting in my opinion , even can be confusing in terms of gameplay as I told you..
[18:40] dÆd: I meant that if I can't get it working before your release date we forget the OS version of the map completely.
[18:42] yoyorast: but why would you spend time on it while I don't think its good for the map.. Im not talking about the technical issue we may have + the fact that every plaayers would have to add a library somewhere.. I mean, I dont see interest in the idea itself
[18:45] dÆd: We'll never know if it's good for the map unless we test the idea is all I have to say... Give it a chance?
[18:46] yoyorast: if you tell me, put a special weapon , I dont necesaary need to test to know if its good ofr the map or not
[18:46] yoyorast: I see what MTV is
[18:49] yoyorast: rememebr what I told bout race.. , I mean, I really need peopel to race , not fighting to have a vehicle to start racing
[18:49] yoyorast: I want to keep it simple , old school
[18:52] dÆd: If you used OS, your map would be the first one to use it, meaning exclusivity.
Another thing is that Open Sauce allows us to disable MTV per gametype. So therefore I could disable MTV for Race mode(s), keeping it (relatively) Old School.
[18:53] yoyorast: but you have some actions in OS or what?
[18:53] yoyorast: you made it?
[18:53] dÆd: I know how OS works, I can use it.
[18:54] yoyorast: but you know, if we use OS, why not remake the doors and shileds work with it and teleporters and all..?
[18:55] yoyorast: Why? because the map is like done, and going to be released before the end of the week
[18:55] dÆd: You answered it yourself... We don't need to include ever possible OS feature.
[18:55] dÆd: *every*
[18:56] yoyorast: ye, that why its a pain to only use it for MTV
[18:56] yoyorast: c
[18:56] yoyorast: doors could always work better
[18:56] dÆd: Yes but the only people who will notice that will be hardcore people who already are in on the situation.
[18:59] dÆd: You personally would have nothing to lose if you humored my proposition.
[19:06] yoyorast: humored?
[19:07] dÆd: Humored in that type of context like the words allowed and entertained combined.
[19:08] yoyorast: wow this is going beyond my english lol
[19:08] dÆd: xDD
[19:09] dÆd: hu·mored, hu·mor·ing, hu·mors
1. To comply with the wishes or ideas of; indulge
[19:09] dÆd: (dictionary.com)
[19:11] yoyorast: o ye lol
[19:11] dÆd: Yep...
[19:11] yoyorast: Dazer, dam when you have an idea, you never leave it
[19:12] dÆd: No I don't.
[19:12] yoyorast: lol
[19:12] dÆd: I've gotten a lot of neg rep from this persistence...
[19:12] dÆd: xD
[19:12] yoyorast: but man, CE is CE , it's not CE + I have to install something else you know.. I dont like this idea..
[19:13] yoyorast: haha
[19:13] dÆd: I know you don't... That's been made clear, but can we not just try it? please?
[19:13] yoyorast: lol and you dont learn from your experiences lol?
[19:14] dÆd: Nope. I don't :D
[19:15] yoyorast: but this wont change the fact that you must install some extra thing in the end
[19:15] dÆd: That is understood.
[19:16] dÆd: If this works we can accept all that goes along with it. I'll handle all of the newb questions so you won't.
[19:16] dÆd: Well, I can
[19:17] dÆd: In the announcement thread on Halo Maps we put a how to install at the top post, as well as on the Halo Maps download post, we put a how to install OS as well as in the README.
[19:18] dÆd: I'm sure most, if not all people will be able to understand if we repeat it enough.
[19:19] dÆd: So, what do you say?
[19:19] yoyorast: I say, if you have to read a dam page to play yoyoV2, I dont want it...
[19:19] dÆd: xD
[19:20] yoyorast: I want people to put the map in the map folder and voila
[19:20] dÆd: I know but it's just copying and pasting a second file to the Halo CE root folder...
[19:20] dÆd: Then voila
[19:21] yoyorast: while you're pasting your file, I'm already ingame enjoying V2
[19:22] yoyorast: :-D
[19:22] dÆd: lol xD cmon man. Just try my idea please
[19:23] yoyorast: mann come on
[19:23] dÆd: You have absolutely nothing to lose.
[19:23] yoyorast: post our conversation at moda and see what people think
[19:24] dÆd: I'll remove the Humored and other nonrelevant parts
[19:24] yoyorast: nana
[19:24] yoyorast: no censure, let the truth speak lol
[19:24] dÆd: lol ok
[19:24] yoyorast: come its fun lol
[19:24] dÆd: I want +rep for this xD
[19:25] yoyorast: bye, the way, as we're on moda now, I say hello to eveyone
[19:25] yoyorast: hi there :-D
Most recent beta really surprised me. Never in a million years would I have suspected that a level with such an unique style and layout would lend itself to astonishingly good gameplay. Looking forward to final release much more now :D