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Idk, it's a personal thing I guess. Just like how different people have different favorite colors, I really like H&K's shit. Not just the pistols either, I still think the G36 is a lovely fucking beast of a rifle and the UMP is sexy as fuck.
If H&K was a girl I'd stock her so hard.
H&K fan boy is a losing battle. You can still be out gunned by a far cheaper product.
As for the M14 it is certianly is not NEARLY as ergonomic as the FAL. Which is why we use the EBR kit instead of the wood, it offers much better ergonomics, better recoil control, and a pistol grip. The M14, like I mentioned is ONLY a marksman rifle, it no longer serves a battle rifle.
I want the 1911 back :( the issue with 9mm is it lacks the stopping power of the .45, or hell even the .40 however the 9mm is known to have a much better effective range than the aforementioned. I note the issue with the large open cut but the M9 is a very fine side arm. However I've never seen the CZ-75 so I can't really compare it to that but it does have wonderful ergonomics, a great trigger, chrome lined barrel and a sturdy frame (one thing I noticed the HK pistols series really lacks). Personally I enjoy the M9 (or 92FS for me technically), but I also haven't used it in combat, nor have I talked to anyone who really has, But from other accounts I've heard it serves its purpose well.
Speaking of 1911's. I'm gonna be getting one in a few months. So I went to a range to try out a few
Smith and Weston, Kimber, Taurus, and a few others, I really liked the Kimber out of all of them. It had just a solid feel
compared to the others. I was wondering if anyone knew of something that might be better? Or is a Kimber pretty much top notch?
(God knows they cost enough.)
Here's the model I was considering: http://www.kimberamerica.com/1911/cu...stom-tle-rl-ii
Any thoughts?
Peng:
http://world.guns.ru/userfiles/image...1287752807.jpg
It's basically a modernised HP. I hear nothing but praise for this pistol and having handled (not shot, yet) one it is a dream.
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Also, why do Americans hate on heel releases so much? Thumb releases are cool and all and let you do all kinds of SICK TACTICOOL RELOADS, but heel releases are pretty practical and encourage not dropping mags just for the sake of lookingcoollike a tosser.
@H&K fanboyism:
MG42/MG3 is the best German gun ever produced, as far as I'm concerned. It's so good it is still used today, with the only other longest-lived gun being the M2HB. Nothing H&K makes will ever top the MG. Not seeing why everyone ooooh's and aaaah's over them, but hey, freedom of speech.
As for heel release: it's theoretically slower. That right there is basically the only reason it isn't more popular. Seeing as pistols are generally used in quick-reaction scenarios, it makes logical sense. You can be already grabbing your next magazine while the spent one falls out, and slam it in there as soon as that happens. You can also keep your gun better pointed at the target the entire time. Oddly enough, I don't hit the thumb release with my thumb, I hit it with my middle or ring finger.
Because he must simply have the best of the best.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossmum
But that's just the thing: they are not the best. A 1911 is a better gun than anything that has come out of H&K, including the Mk. 23. Their rifles are good, but the Russians had that kind of reliability long before and for a lot cheaper; their newest guns have accuracy, too. H&K doesn't do machineguns very well, so, no competition there. The only thing H&K does best is PDWs. I will take an MP7 over a P90, MP9, or SR2 any day.
HK 416 civilian begins shipping this week. For, what's essentially an M4 clone it's going for $2,995. The SCAR and ACR sell for nearly $600 and $400 less, respectively. Which both out performed the 416 in field testing. Just some more reasons why HK is generally over priced.
Yes but if H&K live up to the specs of the gun as it's advertised it won't nearly jam/malfunction as much. Then again most of the complaints about the M4 were magazine issues, and even then it was only in extreme environments like the desert...if I recall correctly.
Even still though, it is quite expensive.
This made me LOL IRL, every 1911 I've ever fired has malfunctioned while firing it. Though they weren't mine so I can't speak to the condition their owners maintained them in, however I was firing the same brand loads in a MK23 once and never had a problem. Different caliber obviously, but the MK23 is pretty much the most reliable gun I've ever fired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Warsaw