Halo: Reach Discussion

Well watching that trailer and seeing that image...RIP Halo canon, I knew ye well. (or so I thought)

Thankfully I can still play Halo 1 and read the books...plus I can grimace through Halo 2, 3, and ODST.

The notion that it's Bungie's game and they can fuck whatever part of the canon they want? Check, they sure can, but they're still fucking it.

If Lucas suddenly released a new movie that affirmed Darth Vader was actually Obi-Wan Kenobi's son and that Luke is actually Vader's cousin would be ridiculous. It would also become canon, and nobody would like it. Only reason Bungie can get away with it is that their games are now marketed for a new crowd, young players who don't give two shits about a game's story and instead like to shoot people while yelling at them over Live!.

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Originally Posted by Warsaw

Rainbow was just a term I used to denote multicoloured suits.

Also, we heard they were Sparta-IIIs from a second hand source. Even if they are Spartan-IIIs, they were all equipped with SPI armour, which had a form of active camouflage anyways.S-III's were suicide soldiers and basicly prototypes, they could have any combination, because their prototypes they could have been used for experimental armour.
If the SPI wasnt shown on the cover for ghosts of onyx no one would even be bitching about what a S-III looked like.
Most of all, no one notice how you can customise your armour in halo 3 MP? Gee i guess they just put that there for shitz and giggles and not be any part of canon.:downs:
All but two of the original S-IIIs were killed before Ghosts of Onyx, and that book takes place after Halo 2 anyways,Gee i wonder what killed them all...
which is long after Reach was glassed. Bungie's game world or not, it would be extremely sloppy for them to drop Spartan IIIs into Reach from a Halo-lore standpoint.
How exactly?

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Also, there were variants of the Mk. V, as mentioned in the Halo Encyclopedia (Security is one of them). I think what some of us are complaining about the chunky disproporionality in the trailer. Yes because this time the armour actualy looks like plates of armour not just extrusions from the rubber beneath it.:downs:
It looks straight-up stupid and not at all conducive to the fluid, almost ninja-like movement that the Spartans are supposed to have.Who said their no longer stealthy or powerful? they look more fearsome now than they did before, IE look at the halo 3 armour, it was basicly a cast of shwartzneggers chest painted green, carved chunks out and then said oh hey heres your chest plate.
Even the Mk. IV as described in the book was sleeker than what we saw in the trailer.

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I personaly think the new colour changes add's a new touch, it actualy enables you to distinguish different spartans from each other, besides the obvious amrour changes.
Spartan 320 looks like shes wearing a variation of the EVA armour to an extent, looking at the H3 MP armour and the reach trailer there are some obvious simularities, i just hope there isnt a hayabusha or RECON armour set.

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Originally Posted by FRain

You want to know who controls the canon of the series?

Bungie.

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That doesn't mean we can't point out apparent flaws or criticize things we don't like. What is it about criticizing people/things/ideas that has become such a stigma on this site recently? It's like for some reason we're not allowed to say anything negative about anything outside of The Studio.

We just had a fairly lengthy discussion about what does and doesn't constitute good fiction.

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Originally Posted by teh lag

"Good" science fiction (or any form of fiction to be honest) generally follows its own internal logic, regardless of whether or not said logic makes sense in "real life".

Ex: If in a sci-fi universe there are boats that can fly but only if they have enough assfuckium in their reactors, and then suddenly they can fly without assfuckium, it would be perfectly reasonable to call out that inconsistency.

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Sure, they can alter the story and we can't say "no this isn't the Halo story". We can call them out for being inconsistent though, and if we don't like what we see I think we should be able to say that.

Expect if these are suppose to be SIIIs we have no place to call them out...because we have nothing to base what a group of SIIIs were doing on Reach or what tech they may have been sporting while doing the thing that they are doing

because they do things. and they're go-doers.

AND IT'S A GAME

poland.

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Originally Posted by Kornman00

Looks like something very windy or powerful is happening in front of them (debris at their feet).

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Looks to me like someone was just sliding down the hill quickly :S

^ Look at the trees.

Not sure about this, but just so ya'll can see:

I love the loading screen, obvious its a reminiscent of Halo 1's.

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Originally Posted by Delta4907

Not sure about this, but just so ya'll can see:
*youtube
I love the loading screen, obvious its a reminiscent of Halo 1's.

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You mean Halo 1's and 2's loading screen? They were quite similar.

Kinda. In Halo 2's you could see the entire background, but in Halo 1's you could only see where the moving light was, like in this one.

Oh. Yea I haven't played Halo 2 in so long.*

Anyways yea cool loading screen bro.


*Cause it sucked