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I just love this Halo-CoD War; it's been ragin' for years. I'll give both +rep in a heartbeat but I'd rather sit down, shut up, and play some good old-fashioned Crackdown or Portal instead. Perhaps later I'll give my own two cents on the whole thing, but we're getting a bit off topic. Let's roll it back people!
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Pooky
I do give my input to developers, quite vocally you may have noticed.
At any rate I pretty much quit buying new FPS games and just stick to playing old ones. Thing is, there's more of a market for dumbed down FPS that appeal to bad people than there is for good FPS that appeal to smart people. In games like Reach or Blops you don't really have to learn or develop skills to do well, and that's why they appeal to the majority.
That's because most of the fun playlists (except Invasion and DLC) are dominated by a Scoped weapon that every player starts with, every player must use to stay in the game, and ultimately makes players shitty in using any skill-required weapon that isn't a power weapon, for instance, the Assault Rifle. I've gotten more kills today due to that weapon because I've learned how to use it than I have using the DMR for the past few days.
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DarkHalo003
That's because most of the fun playlists (except Invasion and DLC) are dominated by a Scoped weapon that every player starts with, every player must use to stay in the game, and ultimately makes players shitty in using any skill-required weapon that isn't a power weapon, for instance, the Assault Rifle. I've gotten more kills today due to that weapon because I've learned how to use it than I have using the DMR for the past few days.
Whats wrong with the DMR? Its just like the H1 pistol. There is literally no difference other than ammo count.
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TVTyrant
Whats wrong with the DMR? Its just like the H1 pistol. There is literally no difference other than ammo count.
Many old-players would easily debate that. It's not that I dislike the DMR though; I love it being a pickup weapon. I hate that everyone starts with it on BTB and every other playlists except DLC and Invasion (which vary upon different gametypes/phases). It craps up movement and makes more standoffish encounters instead of meshed and diverse ones. You know someone will use their DMR or a Power Weapon when in a DMR gametype in comparison to an AR/Pistol start gametype where people are more prone to switch around their weapons. The DMR offers no skill to be earned other than being able to use a super scope, auto-aim, and the somewhat demanding (the only necessary bit of skill required) timing between shots. It can be abused now, in comparison to the Beta, and really is just the Noobtube of small arms. Of course, Hemorrhage as it currently is doesn't help its case though, neither does it exactly hurt it. With the exception of Elite Slayer and Sniper matches, I think that map is an utter catastrophe of no coverage and too-open spaces.
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TVTyrant
Whats wrong with the DMR? Its just like the H1 pistol. There is literally no difference other than ammo count.
I'm sorry, I have no problem with you personally Tyrant and I never really have but this comment is inconceivably stupid.
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I'm sorry, I have no problem with you personally Tyrant and I never really have but this comment is inconceivably stupid.
Why? I really don't see any difference. Maybe I just haven't played enough though. I pretty much put the game down when I moved in for college.
DarkHalo: Just sounds like the H2 BR but shooting 1 round instead of three. Maybe I'm missing something other than nostalgia.
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Whats wrong with the DMR? Its just like the H1 pistol. There is literally no difference other than ammo count.
Uhhh.......
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TeeKup
I'm sorry, I have no problem with you personally Tyrant and I never really have but this comment is inconceivably stupid.
This.
The biggest problems with the DMR compared to the Pistol are that it's hitscan, too easy to hit with, and its effective range is practically unlimited. Unlike the Pistol, which had a clearly defined maximum effective range, the DMR can hit people with perfect accuracy from all the way across almost any map. Cover on most maps is sparse, so there's virtually nowhere you can go to be safe from DMR spam. Even the BR was less annoying on maps like Valhalla because you actually had to lead with it.
Light vehicles are pretty much useless because again, there's nowhere they can go and nothing they can do to avoid getting DMR spammed, and their health doesn't regenerate.
As DarkHalo said, the DMR would be fine as a pickup weapon, but it breaks the gameplay when it's a starting weapon.
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Pooky
The biggest problems with the DMR compared to the Pistol are that it's hitscan, too easy to hit with, and its effective range is practically unlimited. Unlike the Pistol, which had a clearly defined maximum effective range, the DMR can hit people with perfect accuracy from all the way across almost any map. Cover on most maps is sparse, so there's virtually nowhere you can go to be safe from DMR spam. Even the BR was less annoying on maps like Valhalla because you actually had to lead with it.
Light vehicles are pretty much useless because again, there's nowhere they can go and nothing they can do to avoid getting DMR spammed, and their health doesn't regenerate.
As DarkHalo said, the DMR would be fine as a pickup weapon, but it breaks the gameplay when it's a starting weapon.
Oh okay. As I said in my follow up post, I haven't gotten to play it that much online. The unlimited range thing is a huge difference, since the pistol doesn't actually shoot that far in H1. Thanks for the elaboration.
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TVTyrant
Oh okay. As I said in my follow up post, I haven't gotten to play it that much online. The unlimited range thing is a huge difference, since the pistol doesn't actually shoot that far in H1. Thanks for the elaboration.
Yeah, I tried to be somewhat less offensive than usual because you said that :p
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Since we're having this discussion about the DMR, AR, H1 Pistol.... LINK!
No DMR kills, just deaths. 16 AR kills and 9 beat downs. That was when DMR was the primary weapon.